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Old 12-01-2005, 07:24 AM   #1
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One Piece: Revisited?

I couldn't find a One Piece thread in the last year so...

This is probably one of the best parts of the series yet. There are so many people all gunning for Straw Hats and also the up-coming fight with CP9 looks awesome. Hopefully when the dust settle's, Franky will be a crewmate.

I am still curious about a few things(a lot) if anyone has any insights.

What is White Beards ability(what makes him so strong)?

What is the story behing the Black Beard Pirates?

Who are the other two Admirals besides Aokiji?

What is the Buster Call?

But also I just wan't more of the Shichi Bukai. The Marines are cool enemies, especially CP9, but the other strong pirates, especiallly the shichi Bukai are so awesome.

Like who are the other 3 shichi Bukai who we haven't seen yet?

And the last thing on my laundry list. I wan't more Doflamingo T_T.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:17 AM   #2
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

Ok, so, everything I'm about to say is a spoiler. So if you're not up to date with the manga, don't read.

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Franky is my favorite character. End of story. He has "Mugiwara Kaizokudan" written all over him. Not to mention he meets all the "requirements" (He's had a traumatic past, and he's both a musician AND a shipwright). I'm really anxious to find out what the Devil Fruit's Kalifa and Kaku ate do. Gear 2: awesome. There is actually a process called vulcanization where you heat rubber to release steam. So Luffy's "power up" isn't just shounen-series bullshit. Most of all, ROBIN'S PAST. We're finally learning some stuff about her, and we'll probably learn what the Buster Call really is within the next few chapters.


On your questions, I have a few speculations about each one.

1) White Beard, for the one time we saw him, was massive. Not quite big enough to be a giant, but much more so than the average human. Possibly a half-giant? Either way, he has experience under his belt, thats for sure. Fun fact: Edward Newgate (Whitebeards name) is also the real name of the REAL whitebeard.

2) It seems like Blackbeard is trying really hard to become the replacement for Crocodile amongst the Shichibukai. My guess is that he realizes who Luffy is, and what he is capable of, which is why he was going after him. Also, there is the curious note about Blackbeards name: Marshall D. Teach. Possible relation to Ace and Luffy? Who knows. I'm still speculating that Gol D. Rodger was Luffy's grandfather, hence him kinda spazzing out when Ao Kiji brought it up before their fight.

3) The other two admirals (besides Ao Kiji, the "Blue Pheasant") were mentioned briefly but not shown, Akainu, the "Red Dog" and Kizaru, the "Yellow Monkey". I'm sure we'll see them eventually.

4) The Buster call is still a mystery. Some speculate it's some sort of WMD, some think it's a special ops force. I personally think that Ao Kiji is somehow involved, since he obviously has some past with Nico Robin.

5) From the Shichibukai, I mostly want to see Jimbei, the Merman pirate. I want to truly know what Arlong's relation to him was also. I personally think that Jimbei kicked Arlong out of his crew, sending him back to East Blue rather than staying in the grand line.

As for my list of things I want to know:

I would love to see more about the villians from East Blue. We know Buggy and Alvida are in the Grand Line, but what about Don Krieg, Arlong, and my personal favorite, Captain Kuro. Also, I think Buggy knows more about Shanks than he lets on.

Also... Spoilers about Usopp.
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Will he re-join the crew as SogeKing? Or will he stay to try to rebuild Merry in Water 7? As much as I love Franky, Usopp is tied for first as my favorite character. I would hate to see him be "traded" for Franky.


I'm sure I'll think of other things.


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Old 12-01-2005, 11:19 AM   #3
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

I am watching the subed-anime... not sure if it has caught up with the manga...

I wonder who is stronger, Lucci or Mihawk, Lucci or Shanks. This Lucci dude seems invincible.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:18 PM   #4
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

I doubt Lucci is as strong as Mihawk, but who knows about Shanks. For what we've seen, Lucchi seems unstoppable, but now that Luffy is starting to understand how their Rokushiki works, I imagine the final fight will play out alot differently than we'd imagine.

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Old 12-01-2005, 03:21 PM   #5
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

Nah, Lucchi isn't invincible. Honestly, Crocodile and Eneru both seemed a lot tougher than him. He just punches and kicks. Punching and Kicking is what Luffy does best. I doubt Lucchi could beat him there.

But Aokiji, Mihawk, and Doflamingo seem, for all intents and purposes, totally invincible.

Aokiji can just freeze everything, you can't even touch him. Mihawk is just a totally invincible Swordsman. And with Doflamingo, how can you fight someone who is controlling you.

Also, I think the other two Admirals, based on their names and Aokiji's power, will be fire and lightning based. But I might be wrong.
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:08 PM   #6
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

Honestly, Eneru (Ener, Enel, whatever the hell you want to call him) was probably the strongest badguy they've faced yet. Luffy just happened to be SUPER lucky that he ate the Gomu gomu no mi. Otherwise this series would have ended abruptly.


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Old 01-20-2006, 07:17 PM   #7
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

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Chapter 396 Spoiler, highlight to read:
Wow. Saul was a Marine Vice Admiral. Which brings me to a point: I believe that Saul is Luffy's grandfather. Ao Kiji even mentioned something about Luffy's grandfather during their first encounter with him, which would lead me to believe that it was Saul, since they obviously knew eachother. I don't think Luffy knows the fate of Saul. Thus far, we're not sure either. At the end of the chapter, he was still alive, but loved ones do tend to die in characters flashbacks. As boring of a character as Robin is, her flashback is turing out to be something really great. I can't wait to see the conclusion. Hopefully it will answer some questions about Luffy's past as well as starting the battle with CP9.



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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

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Bumpo

Chapter 396 Spoiler, highlight to read:
Wow. Saul was a Marine Vice Admiral. Which brings me to a point: I believe that Saul is Luffy's grandfather. Ao Kiji even mentioned something about Luffy's grandfather during their first encounter with him, which would lead me to believe that it was Saul, since they obviously knew eachother. I don't think Luffy knows the fate of Saul. Thus far, we're not sure either. At the end of the chapter, he was still alive, but loved ones do tend to die in characters flashbacks. As boring of a character as Robin is, her flashback is turing out to be something really great. I can't wait to see the conclusion. Hopefully it will answer some questions about Luffy's past as well as starting the battle with CP9.



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Robin isn't boring. She's just a little...calmer than the rest of the crew. Not that that's terribly hard, but still...XD

Anyways, I don't think Saul is Luffy's grandfather. Yeah, signs to kinda point that way with Aokiji saying he knew Luffy's grandfather and him and Saul both being on Ohara, but how then is Luffy not a giant? It seems to me that might be a characteristic that'd be genetically given to him. I'll bet Saul's related to Luffy somehow, but I don't think it's grandfather. I think his Grandfather's Roger, personally. The resemblence, even if we set aside the D, is too strong for it to be incidental. Lengthen Luffy's hair to cover his eyes and give him a moustache and it's Roger. I'm sure Oda will make it clear, though. We'll just have to see, I guess.


As far as character strength goes, Lucchi's almost definitely weaker than Mihawk or Shanks. I mean, Mihawk's obviously uber-powerful. There's no way Lucchi's that strong. Shanks used to be Mihawks equal, so even with one arm, I'd put him above Lucchi. Aokiji or any other elemental fruit would win against him because he'd have trouble hitting them. He's strong, but not on the absolute top-tier of strength which the Admirals and the Shichibukai occupy.
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Old 01-28-2006, 06:56 PM   #9
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

This certainly was an interesting flashback, but I'm reaally waiting for Oda to get back to the present and get the battle on...
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However, this recent chapter does lessen Robin's notoriety a little bit, since it seems that she was just blamed for Sauls actions, which were the destroying of the marine ships...Makes the pirates seem a whoole lot better since they're intentions are at least visible.
I sure hope Oda goes further into the world government's beginnings and the history in general, since they were cut short when Dr. Clover got shot.
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This certainly was an interesting flashback, but I'm reaally waiting for Oda to get back to the present and get the battle on...
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However, this recent chapter does lessen Robin's notoriety a little bit, since it seems that she was just blamed for Sauls actions, which were the destroying of the marine ships...Makes the pirates seem a whoole lot better since they're intentions are at least visible.
I sure hope Oda goes further into the world government's beginnings and the history in general, since they were cut short when Dr. Clover got shot.
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Unless more is done later, it does indeed seem like Robin didn't destroy the ships. Or, alternately, it could be something that happens later. I don't recall it ever saying she destroyed a fleet when she fled Ohara, just that it happened at 8. This means it's entirely possible Spandyne finds out where she is and, lacking Aokiji's restraint, sends warships after her, which she destroys, killing Spandyne. She gets her bounty and Aokiji comes after her, catches her, and she gets away. That's all just speculation, though.


Oh, and one quick discussion question: I just came up with a theory that I want opinions on. You know how way back when it went over that Shanks and Buggy were on a crew together as kids? Well, whose crew were they on? I highly doubt it'll be some no-name pirate.

My guess: Gol D. Roger.

It's a bit of a distance to get there, but consider these facts. Shanks is a famous pirate who is known and respected. This could be through his actions, but might also be related to him being a crewman of the Pirate King. Buggy isn't as famous or as powerful as Shanks and is farther from what I'd imagine Roger having on his crew, but he seems to have a wealth of information about Grand Line. He mentions knowing Whitebeard from when he was on Grand Line before. Whitebeard is the third point on which my theory rests. Whitebeard's the only one who fought Roger to a draw, right? So he'd be familiar with Roger's crew to some extent and they'd know about him as well. Buggy knows Whitebeard a bit. Shanks tries to write him a letter. The important part isn't the letter so much as how Whitebeard talks about Shanks. He refers to Shanks as "that boy" and "that red-haired little brat." These may simply be spawned from the fact that Whitebeard is older and, well, a lot bigger than Shanks, but also imply that he knew Shanks as a kid. If Shanks and Buggy were on Roger's crew, they would have the connections like that.

Yeah, this is all speculation, but I wanted to see what people here thought of it.
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

I had a similar theory, but rather than being "Whitebeard knew Shanks because he was on Gold Rodger's crew", my thought was "Whitebeard knows Shanks because they were on Whitebeard's crew". But that theory kinda falls flat as soon as you bring Ace into the picture. Then again, characters in One Piece have a habit of not devulging information.

I think Oda is going for the "Complete mystery" feeling as it comes to Gol D. Rodger. Heck, the only people we know of who have had actual physical contact and conversation with him is Whitebeard and Tom. If we ever meet any of Gold Rodgers crew, I can only imagine it will be at the place where Luffy will go and present Ace's scrap of paper (yet another One Piece mystery).

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You can't forget Dragon! I'm still confused about what he has in plan for luffy's crew..He comes in for a split second and than he's out again..
so many questions~!
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I had a similar theory, but rather than being "Whitebeard knew Shanks because he was on Gold Rodger's crew", my thought was "Whitebeard knows Shanks because they were on Whitebeard's crew". But that theory kinda falls flat as soon as you bring Ace into the picture. Then again, characters in One Piece have a habit of not devulging information.

I think Oda is going for the "Complete mystery" feeling as it comes to Gol D. Rodger. Heck, the only people we know of who have had actual physical contact and conversation with him is Whitebeard and Tom. If we ever meet any of Gold Rodgers crew, I can only imagine it will be at the place where Luffy will go and present Ace's scrap of paper (yet another One Piece mystery).

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I really hopw that they do make this clear. I'm not sure they'd be on Whitebeard's crew, myself. If they were, Buggy would probably have said more than just he knew of Whitebeard from his last trip to Grand Line. It's possible, but with what Buggy said, I don't think it's as likely that they were on Whitebeard's crew. Ace might have heard of Buggy that way if they were, anyways.

I think/hope it'll go into the pirate summit after Enies Lobby finishes. It's been one of the mysteries that has been bugging me the most. Are all the major pirates going to be there? If they are, will Luffy run into Shanks again, or Zoro into Mihawk (assuming they let him in)? Will the World Government and the abmirals attack it? What will they talk about there? So many questions that I hope get answered.
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Re: One Piece: Revisited?

On a complete side note: I really hope that "Meet Baroque" gets animated. So far only one cover story has been animated, but there is so much going on in Meet Baroque that they could squeeze a few episodes out of it. Plus I love Bon Clay.


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On a complete side note: I really hope that "Meet Baroque" gets animated. So far only one cover story has been animated, but there is so much going on in Meet Baroque that they could squeeze a few episodes out of it. Plus I love Bon Clay.


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A lot of the chapter beginning things would make interesting episodes. To my knowledge, the only one that has been was the Buggy one, which actually played into the plot later on. I guess we'll just have to see whether they do that later on.
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