Reason

[Proud ASIAN]

I don't know exactly what is the Mod reason for locking my topic at
http :// www .animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24243

Fact are fact even whatever matter happendned on the fact, that topic starter are based on fact and have no reason to get locked.

The Mod who lock that topic should exalain his/her reason

[Erigion]

Hi there.

We've had multiple threads discussing the differences between anime (http://www.animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22921) and (http://www.animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4861) cartoons (http://www.animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17707) and they never go any where.

Both forms of animation have their merits and flaws and have been discussed to death. Just because you introduce "ASIAN" into the anime side changes nothing. There are still merits and flaws to both cartoons and anime and "citing" thousands of cosplayers and millions of websites won't change a thing.

I locked the thread because it was starting to become a spam and flame fest because the members of the Anime Academy forum have discussed this so many times and heard many of the relevant arguments that are constantly brought up by people who believe that one form is better than the other. Your argument is no different than someone saying Dragonball Z or Evangelion is better than Hoshi no Koe or PlanetES because the first two are more marketable and popular.

Please read those three threads I have linked at the top of this post and if you have anything relevant to add to the discussion add it to the most recent thread.

[7Raven7]

Aww, I wanted to get in before a mod :(

Anyway, welcome to AA, hope we can carry on with a more meaningful next thread.

[Proud ASIAN]

Even there are many threads who discuss about Anime and cartoon, there is no reason to lock that topic unless it violate any law in this forum.

And that topic not saying Anime better or anything like that directly or undirectly. What that topic mention were ALL based on fact. Bitter or not, better or not, flaming or not, or anything else, fact are fact and will always remain as fact. You should know that even I don't say it, if you don't like that topic then you should not lock it based on your personal reason.
I have prove why you lock it because of your personal reason, because you have no reason to lock a topic based on fact. If you think that topic spread lies you should challenge me to break what I call as fact in that topic.

[Javer]

Even assuming that you're right about what's fact and what's opinion, this is a forum. Forums have moderators. And moderators have to make judgment calls. It boils down to: they make the rules.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

So your argument basically boils down to: Asian, oh, excuse me, ASIAN animation is superior because North Americans are hiring Asians to do animation.

So... lets put it this way. If the Chinese want to build the Summer Palace, and draw up all the blueprints and assign all the leaders, then hire a bunch of, lets say, Frenchmen (since they're cheaper) to actually put all the pieces in place in accordance with instructions from the Chinese overseers and architects... does that make the Summer Palace a triumph of French architecture?

[Proud ASIAN]

You won't find any of my sentence on that topic who mention Anime better than cartoon directly or undirectly.

If you think Anime are better than cartoon since you said it, that is what you think and not what I said.

[Tyrdium]

I don't know exactly what is the Mod reason for locking my topic at
http :// www .animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24243Because you suck.

IBL.

[Erigion]

Your thread had 8 posts in it, 7 of which were spam or comments about spamming.

Your thread was not generating discussion.

Your thread was not original.

Your thread has no actual research without citations.

Those are my reasons for locking your thread.

Edit:

You won't find any of my sentence on that topic who mention Anime better than cartoon directly or undirectly.

If you think Anime are better than cartoon since you said it, that is what you think and not what I said.

There are many peoples who said Anime are Cartoon, Anime technically Cartoon or Anime in definitions are Cartoon. What they said are not based on fact because :
- Anime and Cartoon have deferent quality and level because Anime have much more higher quality and level, you can see how Anime more realistic than Cartoon as the proof. So Anime are not = Cartoon because booth Anime and Cartoon does not have the same quality and level.
If that's not an implication that anime is better than cartoons then I don't know what is.

Edit 2: I'm going to ask people to refrain from posting here if they have nothing constructive to add.

[Proud ASIAN]

Your thread had 8 posts in it, 7 of which were spam or comments about spamming.
Unless I do the spam, you can't lock that topic because other member spamming on it.


Your thread was not generating discussion.
I have questions on that topic

Your thread was not original.
I don't know why you call my topic not original


Your thread has no actual research without citations.
I don't know what you mean by that


Those are my reasons for locking your thread.

Edit:
If that's not an implication that anime is better than cartoons then I don't know what is.
First that topic were made to see which animation [ between Anime and Cartoon ] the member choose, and that topic were also made to show fact about a few animations that were made by ASIANS who were hired by a non ASIANS country since I think not many Animation fans know about that fact in that page.

Fact are fact including what I write "Anime have much more higher quality and level" if you think Anime better than cartoon because of that then that is what you think. What I said on that page not writed to say Anime better but to say fact.

[Javer]

How about this?

A mod can lock any topic he or she thinks is in any way detrimental -- or just useless -- to the forum.

[Erigion]

Unless I do the spam, you can't lock that topic because other member spamming on it.Sure I can, I do it all the time.

I have questions on that topicWould you like a cookie or something?


I don't know why you call my topic not originalhttp://www.animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22921

I don't know what you mean by thatUnless you provide links to reputable sources for your "research" I'm gonna have to assume that you just made up most of the "facts" you've used.

First that topic were made to see which animation [ between Anime and Cartoon ] the member choose, and that topic were also made to show fact about a few animations that were made by ASIANS who were hired by a non ASIANS country since I think not many Animation fans know about that fact in that page.Animated and created are two different things. Just because a series has been animated by "ASIANS" doesn't mean it was created by those same "ASIANS."

Fact are fact including what I write "Anime have much more higher quality and level" if you think Anime better than cartoon because of that then that is what you think. What I said on that page not writed to say Anime better but to say fact."Anime have much more higher quality and level" is no way a fact. That is an opinion. I can name multiple aspects that cartoons do better than anime and yet that doesn't necessarily mean that cartoons as a whole are better than anime.

And what you wrote does imply that you believe that anime is somehow better than cartoons.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Just out of morbid curiosity, just what the hell is your native language anyway?

[Niner]

Clearly, it's ASIAN. I mean, c'mon Kuzu.

[Proud ASIAN]

Unless you provide links to reputable sources for your "research" I'm gonna have to assume that you just made up most of the "facts" you've used.

Assumption are not fact, you can't just use assumption to lock a member topic in here..


Animated and created are two different things. Just because a series has been animated by "ASIANS" doesn't mean it was created by those same "ASIANS."
Animator = Animation creator


"Anime have much more higher quality and level" is no way a fact. That is an opinion. I can name multiple aspects that cartoons do better than anime and yet that doesn't necessarily mean that cartoons as a whole are better than anime.
One of the fact of "Anime have much more higher quality and level" there are more Anime cosplayers, forums, websites, stores, etc compared to cartoon. And I'm sure you can't show me at least 1.000 cartoon cosplayers.


And what you wrote does imply that you believe that anime is somehow better than cartoons.
Once again, unless I said it you can't accuse me for saying it.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Damn. I'm clearly a disgrace to my multi-regional and multi-ethnic continent that possesses cultures of all types to not be able to speak this unifying tongue known as ASIAN.

[Drake]

Damn. I'm clearly a disgrace to my multi-regional and multi-ethnic continent that possesses cultures of all types to not be able to speak this unifying tongue known as ASIAN.

don't worry you're not alone in that problem.

[Erigion]

Assumption are not fact, you can't just use assumption to lock a member topic in here..Wait, wait. I just used an assumption to lock a topic here. I'm sure this has some great meaning that I'm just missing.


Animator = Animation creatorYes that's right, the animator creates the animation but doesn't create the story, the script, the storyboards, the voice acting, the marketing, the production, the directing, or many other major components that go into creating a work of animation. Heck the cheap Korean animation studios probably only do the in-between animation and leave the key frames to the main production house.


One of the fact of "Anime have much more higher quality and level" there are more Anime cosplayers, forums, websites, stores, etc compared to cartoon. And I'm sure you can't show me at least 1.000 cartoon cosplayers.The number of fans of anime proves nothing about the quality of anime itself. The only thing that a higher number of fans can directly show is that there are a higher number of fans for anime.


Once again, unless I said it you can't accuse me for saying it.You put it in your initial thread, so you obviously believe it since you made no effort to claim they weren't your thoughts.

[Drake]

so this http://www.the-triad.org/series/dogtato.jpg

is better then
http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/characters/images/garg_cast.gif

this?

[soundchazer]

I think ASIAN-man here is just an attempt by banned member to get even.

In other words: IT'S A TRAP!

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Nah, he's got his own website too. It's a charming clubhouse with a sign in front "No Americans."

[soundchazer]

An ASIAN Supremacist, perhaps?

[fugupinkeye]

I think ASIAN-man here is just an attempt by banned member to get even.

In other words: IT'S A TRAP!

agreed. If the poster had genuinely wanted to know why his topic was locked, why not pm the mod, instead of making ANOTHER spam thread?

[General Suburbia]

Your sig makes me think of Hitler.

[Proud ASIAN]

Wait, wait. I just used an assumption to lock a topic here. I'm sure this has some great meaning that I'm just missing.
You need fact to judge someone and not assumption


Yes that's right, the animator creates the animation but doesn't create the story, the script, the storyboards, the voice acting, the marketing, the production, the directing, or many other major components that go into creating a work of animation. Heck the cheap Korean animation studios probably only do the in-between animation and leave the key frames to the main production house.
Without the Animator, an animation can't be done but with just an Animator and Animation can be done because an Animator can make Animation even without a story or music just like what I did with a simple animated GIF.


The number of fans of anime proves nothing about the quality of anime itself. The only thing that a higher number of fans can directly show is that there are a higher number of fans for anime.
Something loved by more fans means that thing have more quality compared to other things in the same definition that have less fans. Anime and Cartoon have the same definition as an Animation form, Anime have more fans prove Anime have more quality. Something with more quality will attract more people to be obsessed with it.


You put it in your initial thread, so you obviously believe it since you made no effort to claim they weren't your thoughts.
Fact are fact and will remain as fact, how about if I said in 1945 the american kills over 500.000 Japanese with nukes? will you call that what I believe too?

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Something loved by more fans means that thing have more quality compared to other things in the same definition that have less fans. Anime and Cartoon have the same definition as an Animation form, Anime have more fans prove Anime have more quality. Something with more quality will attract more people to be obsessed with it.

How many people joined the Nazi Party again? Some quality there.

EDIT: Go go Godwin's Law.

[Roark]

I'm just going to be honest here and say that thread was NOT locked because of content, similarity to other topics, or any other reason. The main reason that is was locked was that other members saw fit to spam, flame, and troll it to high hell. Now, I probably would have tried deleting offending posts had I been there at the time. Erigion chose a more direct route and just closed the thread outright.

We don't encourage spam and baiting here on AA. Unfortunately, other people tried to turn that thread into what they wanted. If you want to repost it by copy/pasting the original thread and editing out some of the racism and making asking the question clearer, you are more than welcome.

Be aware, however, that some members do jump on stuff like this.

[Dark Lord]

Now, now people... You could at least give him some credit for the time and effort he puts into his posts, which I don't bother reading anyhow...

[kyubichan]

His English isn't very good. If I were a mod, honestly, I'd lock that topic just for that reason alone: it induces brain tumors -_-"

You're lucky, Dark_Lord, that you did not attempt to read any of his posts. Reading "Fact are fact..." for the nth time, without anyone bothering to correct the grammar, has made my nose bleed. Currently, I am tempted to change my profile and put "Mars" as the location just to avoid being associated with this... strange person.

As Kuzu said, what is your native tongue, mister ASIAN? What country do you come from? ASIA is not a country, you should know. Also, if you don't shut the hell up with the racism, I will be forced to take more drastic measures just to stop you from making a joke of all us Asians here. If you live anywhere near my country, you should be running. Right now.

And about the closed thread:
1. I've never seen a mod misuse his/her mod powers in this site.
2. If #1 does not suffice, I dare say, your post in that thread was horribly boring. It did not even provide any facts that I did not know already.
3. This:
1. Why did you think there are soo many-many Anime cosplayers rather than cartoon cosplayers?
...is an example of a failed attempt at making yourself heard.

Take it from a fellow ASIAN. STFU.

[Dark Lord]

As Kuzu said, what is your native tongue, mister ASIAN? What country do you come from? ASIA is not a country, you should know. Also, if you don't shut the hell up with the racism, I will be forced to take more drastic measures just to stop you from making a joke of all us Asians here. If you live anywhere near my country, you should be running. Right now.

You're... Scary :scared:

[Milkymagic]

I like to be very accepting of new members (I still am new pretty much myself), but your (Proud ASIAN's) posts were particularly offensive. I hold a respect for all forms of animation, and I don't think people who actually like American Cartoons should have to hear their form be told it's inferior. It would be great to see Japan one day for myself, but I highly doubt you're from anywhere in the continent of Asia, at least I don't think people from your region (see Kyubi ^_^) would hold any respect for someone such as yourself if you really were from that area. I wonder if you have any friends, or even had parents that truly cared about your well being. What's life like in "ASIA" for you really? If it's even Asia you come from, that is.

I really hope such Fascism stops, otherwise I might be compelled to enter a hiatus just to get such nasty thoughts away from my consciousness. It made me want to cry for you, but only because such closemindedness prevents you from seeing life for what it is. I don't think you'll make any friends on this site personally, unless you change your stance as being something other than an "ASIAN" that's also a Fascist in such respects. Of course, I'm not afraid to mention your grammar is indeed terrible, and I just couldn't read your post entirely because of the combination of offensive subject matter and unreadable sequencing. You have no respect for anyone that appreciates animation in general, even I let people know when I'm kidding, or if I'm merely expressing my own opinion (without any degrading forms of dialogue mind you). And if I offend somebody, above all else, there's always an apology. Are you ready to apologize?

You're either really naive, or you're just somebody looking to toy with us.

In short, I'm not going to welcome you just yet, and I could care less if you vanish.

[Mana]

Doesn't matter much anymore now does it folks? The guy's a traveling troll, now let's move on with our lives.