Anime or Cartoon?

[Proud ASIAN]

Which one you love and what is the reasons?

I love Anime and the reason is because Anime are more realistic than cartoon, the Anime chacraters [ Anime girls ] also the only one that can charm me with their cuteness. adorableness, beautifulness and many other reason that makes me charmed by them aswell as to the Anime. Just how this page described http ://home.graffiti.net/phoenixknight/ASIA-Anime/What-Is-Anime/What-Is-Anime.htm
When cosplaying into Anime, I don't feel any shame because no one calling me childish or a kid but instead calling me cute, handsome, etc. There are also very many Anime Websites, Forums, Conventions, where I can share and exchange Anime information with millions other Anime fans.


I have 2 questions for those who like Animation :

1. Why did you think there are soo many-many Anime cosplayers rather than cartoon cosplayers?
From each 10.000 Anime cosplayers only 1 or none cartoon cosplayer out there, you can check a cosplayer site such as www .cosplay.com or www .acparadise.com . You can found atleast 50.000 Anime cosplayers from deferent countrys just from those 2 cosplay sites, most of the Anime cosplayers are not even ASIAN themself or on other words Anime not just enjoyed and cosplayed by the ASIANS who make the Anime but also by the non ASIANS. There are also millions more other Anime cosplayers out there who were also from many-many deferent countrys other than what you have seen on the 2 previous cosplay sites.
I'm sure no one in here who can show me at least 1.000 cartoon cosplayers, because no one interested on cosplaying into childish and unpopular show. They probably know they will get themselfs called childish when they are cosplaying into cartoon by their familys or friends.

By seeing those millions Anime cosplayers, have proved that Anime are more realistic than cartoon because someone who did what they see on a show such as a movie, Animation, Video Games or any television entertainment are those who were motivated by the realistic things of what they seen. They are cosplaying into Anime because they think Anime are realistic that makes them motivated to do what they see in Anime.

2. Why did you think there are soo many-many Anime websites, forums, conventions or stores rather than cartoon websites, forums, conventions or stores?
You can use www .google.comto check and find it all out, and you will found hundreds thousand Anime websites, forums, conventions or stores. Just like the Anime cosplayers most of the Anime websites, forums, conventions or stores are come from outside ASIA. This Anime forum are one of those many-many forums who clinging-on into Anime to stay alive.
I'm sure you can't find cartoon websites, forums, conventions or stores as many as the Anime websites, forums, conventions or stores because cartoon childish popularition makes Animation fans have no or have less interest to make website, forum, covention or even to open a store for it.

I'm very sure you have many Anime DVD, VCD, or accessories rather than any cartoon DVD, VCD or accessories in your collections or you don't even have any cartoon DVD, VCD, or accessories in your collections. I'm also very sure there are many Anime girls or Anime boys that makes you fall in love to them and no cartoon girls or cartoon boys that makes you fall in love to them.


A few things any Anime fans should know :
There are several countrys outside ASIA who try to make Anime but they can't make it themselfs because when they are hiring the ASIANS animators as the animators. As an example, the american try to make a few semi Anime [ not fully Anime ] such as :
- Teen Titans, the animators are Korean
- Power Puff Girls Z, the animators are Japanese
- Avatar, the animators are Korean
- Duel Master, the animators are Japanese
And a few others semi Anime the american animation company made by hiring the ASIANS animators in hope they can make Anime and take credit for their ownselfs. But it seems all those semi Anime end as a failure, because all those semi Anime are not as popular as the Anime who were made by 100% ASIANS staff that were made in ASIA.

There are also many american own cartoon that were made by ASIANS animators :
- Simpsons, half of the total episode made by Korean animators
- Tom and Jerry kids
- Scooby Doo [ the new one ]
- Superman, the new one made by Japanese animators
- Batman, the new one made by Korean animators
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the new one made by Japanese animators
There are still many others american own cartoon that were made by ASIANS animators hired by american animation company.
Most of the american cartoon next sequel were made by hiring ASIANS animators because the first chapter are not popular. Such as Tom and Jerry, it is only popular in the u.s.a but not outside of the u.s.a before Tom and Jerry kids are released.
France and a few other non ASIAN countrys also hiring ASIANS animators to make their semi Anime and also cartoon such as Skyisland, Totally spy, etc.

There are many peoples who said Anime are Cartoon, Anime technically Cartoon or Anime in definitions are Cartoon. What they said are not based on fact because :
- Anime and Cartoon have deferent quality and level because Anime have much more higher quality and level, you can see how Anime more realistic than Cartoon as the proof. So Anime are not = Cartoon because booth Anime and Cartoon does not have the same quality and level.
- Anime using more higher technique to make the Animation to become more alive or realistic, you can see how Anime more realistic than Cartoon as the proof. So Anime are not technically Cartoon because booth Anime and Cartoon does not have the same
technique on how to make an Anime or a Cartoon.
- Anime and Cartoon in definitions are animation forms just like Claymation, CG and FMV who also other forms of animation. So
Anime in definitions are not Cartoon because the definitions of Anime and Cartoon are animation forms.

If you are still not understand it, you can think this simple logic :
There won't be any Anime Websites, Anime Forums, Anime Conventions, Anime Cosplayers, Anime Studios, Anime Stores, or the ASIANS [ Japanese, Chinese, Korean ] won't call their animation as Anime if Anime are Cartoon, if Anime technically Cartoon or if Anime in definitions are Cartoon.
So by saying Anime = Cartoon, Anime technically Cartoon or Anime in definitions are Cartoon not only ignorant but also idiotic, but for someone who only able to clinging-on to the other peoples advancement, they won't care about that facts because they can't make Anime and only able to make Cartoon, they are dreaming and hoping they will get benefits from Anime by saying Anime = Cartoon, Anime technically Cartoon, Anime in definitions are Cartoon or any sad excuse like that.
What they actually did, they are the cause or the one who giving Anime the Cartoon bad [ childish ] reputation that makes many-many Anime fans called childish by their familys or by most of their friends.


Before you want to say anything bad about Anime, first show me at least :
- 1.000 cartoon cosplayers, except from cartoon's titles that were brought to movie because no one can tell wether they cosplaying from the animation or from the movie
- 100 cartoon girls and 100 cartoon boys that makes many animation fans falls in love to them
- 50 cartoon websites, except the one that made by the cartoon's studio
- 10 cartoon forums with multirace member on it or not just having western members, also that have more than 1000 new post a day.
- 10 cartoon store or a store that only have cartoon related items on sale
- 5 cartoon titles that makes illness to the whole world, such as an Anime named Pokemon in the year of 2000 that makes a fever to the whole world or such as Naruto that are hotly talked over right now in many website and forums.
- 10 cartoon titles that are not for cildrent or a cartoon who have adult material on it
- 5 cartoon titles that have more than 3 sequels, such as an Anime named Gundam who have over 8 sequels

If you can't show me that, then you should have shame to what you want to say of anything bad about Anime because I can show you more than what I'm asking to you such as I can show you over 100.000 Anime cosplayers, over 100 Anime websites, etc. If you want me to show you all of that, you have to challenge with the rules of :
- After the battle start, if any of us editing our posting then the one who edited their posting are lose.
- Any of us can decide the punishment if either one of us lose including banning from using the Internet forever. My punishment are you have to put my internet link into all of your internet account including in this forum if you lose.

Anything you read in this topic starter are based on fact and If you doubt any of what you read in this topic starter such as the animators of the american cartoon's titles listed in here or any other things you read in this topic starter, just challenge me to prove it. If you believe in what you are going to say as truth then you will 100% sure to fight for it untill the end including to accept anyone challenge who try to break your believes.
Why you must challenge me if you want to break the truth of what I said in this topic starter? because that is the way of what real men will did when they are fighting for their believes. I believe in what I write in this topic starter and have no fear to accept any challenge from any member who doubt what I write in this topic starter. I'm also someone who don't do useless things such as using lies in this topic starter.


Infortant note :
- There is what known as "cartoon curse" that gives bad influence towards Anime, you will have your familys or friends calling you childish when you watch any Animation even if they are Anime because your familys or most of your friends only know about cartoon that are for kids and did not know about Anime that are mostly for teenagers and adults.
- Most american cartoon are mostly [ over 74% ] using animal characters such as tom and jerry, the lion king, donald duck, tiny toons, mickey mouse, etc. Even the american 3D cartoon such as shrek, ice age, shark tale, chicken run, happy feet, etc also using Animal characters. This is one of the reason why cartoon are childish and seeing as a show that only for childrent.

If you want to help to get ride of the "cartoon curse" who gives bad influence into Anime, you can spread this topic everywhere and to anyone including to your friends or to anyone who love Anime.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

HAIL!

Oh, and in before lock/flame.

[Proud ASIAN]

I don't know why you call this topic flaming, you have a reason and you should said your reason since what you read in this topic based on fact including on about all those animation titles who were made by ASIAN animators.

[Javer]

Well, hey, he put a lot of effort into writing all that.

[Proud ASIAN]

Yea, I put alot to write and collect information to write all that up.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Bibliography plz.

[Luggles]

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[Mouse]

What would I do without Mr. Proud ASIAN to provide me with a non-stop source of unprincipled, otiose orations to complain about? It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how when one examines the ramifications of letting Mr. ASIAN convince innocent children to follow a path that leads only to a life of crime, disappointment, and destruction, one finds a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that while he insists that his way of life is correct and everyone else's isn't, reality dictates otherwise. Actually, if you want a real dose of reality, look at how I believe in "live and let live". Mr. ASIAN, in contrast, demands not only tolerance and acceptance of his subliminal psywar campaigns but endorsement of them. It's because of such blathering demands that I feel that while we do nothing, those who shower cynical grizzlers with undeserved encomia are gloating and smirking. And they will keep on gloating and smirking until we direct our efforts toward clearly defined goals and measure progress toward those goals as frequently and as objectively as possible. Before explaining why shambolic devotees of conspiracy theories cause insurmountable trouble for us, I must first hinder the power of lewd, brainless nincompoops like Mr. ASIAN. While it is not my purpose to incriminate or exculpate or vindicate or castigate, if I were a complete sap, I'd believe his line that free speech is wonderful as long as you're not bashing him and the impertinent paper-pushers in his club. Unfortunately for him, I realize that Mr. ASIAN's toadies are so ready to dupe Mr. ASIAN's goons into believing that courtesy and manners don't count for anything that their nostrums are laughable. Sad, but true. And it'll only get worse if Mr. ASIAN finds a way to renege on an incredibly large number of promises.

To bring the matter closer to home, let me remind you that Mr. ASIAN is not a responsible citizen. Responsible citizens resolve a number of lingering problems. Responsible citizens certainly do not concoct a version of reality that fully contradicts real life. What I think -- and I'm no specialist -- is that he thinks that children should get into cars with strangers who wave lots of yummy candy at them. However, it seems a bit late in the day for him to make this world a better place in which to live. I attribute the social and psychological problems of modern society to the fact that Mr. ASIAN has stated that he is a spokesman for God. That's just pure academicism. Well, in Mr. ASIAN's case, it might be pure ignorance, seeing that it is saddening to have to tell Mr. ASIAN that he is the most rabid deadbeat witnessed by the history of mankind. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that Mr. ASIAN has any control over. But that's inconsequential, because I have never been in favor of being gratuitously illiterate. I have also never been in favor of sticking my head in the sand or of refusing to stick to the facts and offer only those arguments that can be supported by those facts. Mr. ASIAN should clarify his point so people like you and me can tell what the heck he's talking about. Without clarification, Mr. ASIAN's objectives sound lofty and include some emotionally charged words but don't really seem to make any sense.

Mr. ASIAN uses the very intellectual tools he criticizes, namely consequentialist arguments rather than arguments about truth or falsity. This raises the question: Is his incessant burbling about the wonders of emotionalism supposed to convince us that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters? I could give you the answer now, but it would be more productive for me first to inform you that I can easily see him performing the following perverted acts. First, Mr. ASIAN will needle and wheedle the worst classes of beer-guzzling mouthpieces for querulous, muzzy-headed ethnocentrism there are into his faction. Then, he will cover up his criminal ineptitude. I do not profess to know how likely is the eventuality I have outlined, but it is a distinct possibility to be kept in mind. Your guess is as good as mine as to why he wants to go to great lengths to conceal his true aims and mislead the public. Maybe it's because he plans to abuse science by using it as a mechanism of ideology. Take, for example, heartless rabble-rousers. Now look at Mr. ASIAN. If you don't believe there's a similarity, then consider that he wants me to stop trying to shout back at his propaganda. Instead, he'd rather I suffer endless humiliation. Sorry, but I don't accept defeat that easily.

For one thing, Mr. ASIAN is a bad role model for children. But more important, Mr. ASIAN spouts a lot of numbers whenever he wants to make a point. He then subjectively interprets those numbers to support his op-ed pieces while ignoring the fact that it's quite easy for him to declaim my proposals. But when is Mr. ASIAN going to provide an alternative proposal of his own? If you need help in answering that question, you may note that Mr. ASIAN's actions are evil. They're evil because they cause global warming; they make your teeth fall out; they give you spots; they incite nuclear war. And, as if that weren't enough, Mr. ASIAN does not hold himself answerable to any code of honor. It's that simple. I have nothing more to say on that issue. I kid you not. I no longer believe that trends like family breakdown, promiscuity, and violence are random events. Not only are they explicitly glorified and promoted by Mr. ASIAN's self-deceiving, drugged-out smear tactics, but a person who wants to get ahead should try to understand the long-range consequences of his/her actions. Mr. ASIAN has never had that faculty. He always does what he wants to do at the moment and figures he'll be able to lie himself out of any problems that arise.

Mr. ASIAN wants us to think of him as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that he wants to "do good" with other people's money and often with other people's lives. If Mr. ASIAN really wanted to be a do-gooder, he could start by admitting that his "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude is mentally deficient, because it leaves no room for compromise. It's possible that feelings of inferiority are characteristic of the most indecent gadflies you'll ever see. However, I cannot speculate about that possibility here because I need to devote more space to a description of how if you want to hide something from Mr. ASIAN, you just have to put it in a book. Make no mistake about it, I wonder what would happen if he really did create a new fundamentalism based not on religion but on an orthodoxy of Bonapartism. There's a spooky thought. I recently received some mail in which the writer stated, "Mr. ASIAN's 'sincerity' is as transparent as the icy, uncaring look in his eyes." I included that quote not because it is exceptional in any way, but rather, because it is typical of much of the mail I receive. I included it to show you that I'm not the only one who thinks that Mr. ASIAN's thesis is that no one is smart enough to see through his transparent lies. That's entirely daft, you say? Good; that means you're finally catching on. The next step is to observe that if Mr. ASIAN wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this letter with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults. In summary, it is my prayer that people everywhere will join me in my quest to issue a call to conscience and reason.

[Erigion]

So your theory is anime is inherently better than cartoons because it's made by Asians? And your evidence for this is the quantity of anime and cartoons drawn by Asians?

By the way this is a horrible first thread at a well established anime forum where people know what anime is and recognize that anime is not inherently better or worse than any other form of art.

Oh and in at the lock before even more shit hits the fan.