do u like dbz?

[miss demi]

hi, i'm Demi. I just joined. i got into anime like 10 years ago when i was little and I still like it so yeah.

I really think dbz is a cool anime and its something everybody wathces so who like dbz?

I like dbz because the characters are really unique and totalyl break all the trends an shit and aen't all shint and shit. so whats ur opinins?

[ash_chan]

Commas, dear. They are your friend.

...No, I do not like DBZ, or any of it's incarnations. To me, the anime is horrible.

[Tyrdium]

In before Trem.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9964/56njeqjzhmfp34ci6lyf3snakhpzx3vmli5.jpg

[Dark Lord]

Quite frankly... I don't really like the series... I hope I didn't offend you... Yes, Its true that many people watch it but there are also people who dislike it (quite a lot I may add), myself included... I don't know, I find it boring and repetetive... But don't fret my dear, because there is probably someone out there who likes DBZ as much as you do...

[The Geomancer]

I could not like the series even if I was paid to do so, for several reasons:

1) repetitiveness to the highest degree possible (reused animations, characters, I could go on for days)

2) possibly the WORST plot formula in anime history (made even more bad because of how much said formula is used)

3) bad acting, I'd rather be shot in the head.

4) a great way to kill something that was originally supposed to be a modern retelling of [arguably] one of the greatest stories ever

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

Now now, I don't think Dragon Ball was ever supposed to be another Xi You Ji. Toriyama played with the Sun Wukong character too much for it ever to wind up like that. Still, that whole alien thing was just really out of left field given the spirit of Dragon Ball.

And one must give some credit to the Japanese VA cast. Ryo Horikawa's Vegeta is quite good, as is Kusao Takeshi's Trunks. Nozawa Masako, while she's improperly cast for Gokuu (in DBZ anyway), does do a good job though.

Oh for the days when bukujutsu was a skill hard to acquire.

[Javer]

Oh for the days when bukujutsu was a skill hard to acquire.

Yeah, and now everybody and their arthritic grandmother can do it. -_-

[Miaka Lee]

I wouldn't say Dragon Ball Z is one of the best animes out there but in my opinion it wasn't that bad. Sure, it took like ten freaking episodes for someone to walk to the store and it did scare me a bit time to time.

Honestly, who can't say Super Saiyan wasn’t cool when they first saw it?

Dragon Ball on Animax was better though.

[Tremolo]

What does "shint" mean?

[Javer]

What does "shint" mean?

Maybe it means "shit".

^ New and useful information!

EDIT: Yes, Trem. That was the point I was trying to make.

[Tremolo]

Maybe it means "shit".

^ New and useful information!

You sure? If so: "I like dbz because the characters are really unique and totalyl break all the trends an shit and aen't all shit and shit."

If that's what it does mean, she sure does love her some shit.

Maybe I should follow up with an image macro or something, I feel I haven't really done this thread justice.

[Milkymagic]

DBZ? Well, I do love it when Krillin gets slam-dunked...

And all the ripped guys screaming at each other for almost a whole episode is funny...

Also, some of their attacks are charging in the background as this happens...

Along with maybe some other people getting knocked around before commencing the arguement over who's going to die.

Strangely enough, I can see the appeal, but I'm just not the audience.

THE END

[Starwind Amada]

Sure, it took like ten freaking episodes for someone to walk to the store

FYI, he's trying to say that it took a whole bunch of episodes for someone to power up. I don't know what's up with this store analogy thing.

[jetfire]

FYI, he's trying to say that it took a whole bunch of episodes for someone to power up. I don't know what's up with this store analogy thing.

Um...it was a joke. To overexaggerate how long it takes the plot to progress.

[miss demi]

hi it's demi again. I think i was trying to say shiny but i hit the T instead.y bad doggs.

dbz isnt my favorite either. i just know alot of the anime fans like it so i wanted to apeal to highest number of people i could.

so yah. i ike dbz because it is badass as hell and orignal. every person looks different not like anime now where they are all the same and have stupid faces sometimes. but anime is still cool.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Take note that if it weren't for Dragonball none of us would be reading One Piece, Bleach nor Naruto these days. Heck, a lot of current day mangaka loved Dragonball as a kid.

Also I should point out that the manga is more pleasant due to a lack of filler material (although the driving lesson episode rocks), and as such you get to suffer less from prolonged shouting and powering up.

But as mentioned before, the japanese version is much easier to enjoy. And Dragonball (plain Dragonball) as it is, still is one of my fave anime and manga to date as it's original, witty and incredibly funny. Plus the fights were rather cool as well. (Winning a fight thanks to having no nose? Brilliance!)

[Starwind Amada]

i ike dbz because it is badass as hell and orignal.

That's a terrible description. You could say that about every anime you like.

every person looks different not like anime now where they are all the same and have stupid faces sometimes

Then why do young Goku, Goten and Goku Jr. look exactly the same? Better yet, why do adult Goku and Turles look the same? And how about Vegeta and Raditz? You can't seriously tell me that they didn't reuse character designs.

[miss demi]

they look the same because saiyajins have basic genetic materail not like humans. and radditz and vegita dont looks alike. radditz has long ass hari.

[Phate]

I still find the Bardock and Trunks specials and a few movies rather entertaining. There are also several characters from DBZ that I'll always like.

[Two-twenty]

This thread BLOWS MY MIND!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/Twotwenty/2ohshi-.jpg

Edit: Thats rly me okay guyz?

[ash_chan]

Take note that if it weren't for Dragonball none of us would be reading One Piece, Bleach nor Naruto these days. Heck, a lot of current day mangaka loved Dragonball as a kid.

Also I should point out that the manga is more pleasant due to a lack of filler material (although the driving lesson episode rocks), and as such you get to suffer less from prolonged shouting and powering up.



See, I have no problem with the manga. I enjoy reading the manga exactly because of those points: No stupid filler/pointless shouting.

The anime just annoys me. Close your eyes, it sounds like a bad gay porn. I'd rather watch something that isn't quite so...fillerific.

[kyubichan]

OMFG! DBZ roxxorz! Like totally!

Kidding aside, I like DBZ for the facts that Pedro said: it's one of the anime the got me into, well, anime. I enjoyed it as a kid, though I look back at it now (darn you GMA 7!) and go "Man, that's pretty crappy!"

I'd rather watch something that isn't quite so...fillerific.
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Unfortunately, lots of anime nowadays are fillerific... Naruto, Bleach... err.... Naruto....

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

they look the same because saiyajins have basic genetic materail not like humans. and radditz and vegita dont looks alike. radditz has long ass hari.

I'm sure Raditz could cut his hair to be the Prince's twin. And basic genetic material? No, I'm pretty sure both Saiyajin and humans have DNA and are pretty damn similar, that whole "power up when I'm going to die" thing aside. Otherwise, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Bra, and Pan wouldn't exist.

[Mouse]

I'd like it better if the fights were condensed instead of dragged out to make time for Goku and company to take long walks on the beach and sniff the flowers.

[ash_chan]

Unfortunately, lots of anime nowadays are fillerific... Naruto, Bleach... err.... Naruto....


Which is why I really don't watch those shows. I read the manga.

[Johanen]

No the only real reason i didn't like DBZ was the:

PUNCH... close up of character... Dialogue of whats going through his head for 5 minutes... enemy character making a snide remark... shouting back at enemy character... repeat

And then... power up to a level you shouldv'e powered to 20 minutes ago to win.

Although the first time goku ever powered up against Frieza was frickin' landmark awesome!

[General Suburbia]

they look the same because saiyajins have basic genetic materail not like humans. and radditz and vegita dont looks alike. radditz has long ass hari.

You put too much thought into defending a crappy anime. They looked the same because the artist made them look the same, not because of their genetics. And looking different from another character should never be limited to hair. I remember my friend had DBZ figurines, all with detachable hair. If you took out their hair, you couldn't tell one character from another.

[Donutboyy]

DBZ is a great anime. It's one of the reason I started watching anime at all.

[Javer]

DBZ is a great anime. It's one of the reason I started watching anime at all.

Goosebumps was the reason I started reading recreationally, but that doesn't make it any good.

[aeroshadow]

...

I think everyone is has taken Dragonball Z a little too lightly. Sure, it may seem simple, repetitive, and flat at the first glance, but what you don't know is that this series is actually one of the most intelligent and complex anime to ever have aired on television globally. In fact, I had to watch it like four times to fully understand it.

In fact, I think this complexity is Dragonball Z's only downside. It's very difficult to swallow all at once. But, if given enough time, Dragonball Z can show you the true potential of animated work. Each character is a beautiful, perfect shadow of realism; they are so multi-faceted and their stories are so poignant that you can't help but follow along, digging deep into their conflicting emotions as they run through life itself. Also, the imagery is used in utterly profound ways, acting as allegories and symbols for real world issues, classic legends, and the war between the world's many conflicting religious influences.

It's just... beautiful.

[AlterGenesis-X]

DBZ is funny. I mean, seriously, what other shows do you see kids named Pan and Bra? (Yes, technically, DBGT, which sucked even harder.)

[Sunami 366]

I think it's alright.. I mean I use to watch it way back when it started showing on CN.

[NausicaaBoy]

no not really... for me it was too much screaming with contorted looks of rage and agony on characters faces. Followed there after by flashes of light and big nucleur explosions....

however, I can see the apeal for others - i just wasnt interested

[Starwind Amada]

DBZ is funny. I mean, seriously, what other shows do you see kids named Pan and Bra?

Not the dub, since Bra became "Bulla." :sweatdrop

[Manga_Creator]

Okay love me or hate me for it but as some of you may or may not know I am a total DBZ Maniac. Akira Toriyama is a genius in my eyes, if you read the books other than the serise I find it better, I am yet to see the eledged Kariza son of Frieza so when I get the whole of the set maybe he'll be in there but anyway, I love it like most people it was my first Animé and I also like Toriyamas other great creation of Dr Slump, To be honest I think it became so succesful because Toriyama loved writting it and when you read the books its like reading a persons life work. For there to be Three serise DB, DBZ, DBGT and a hole fan club to make DBAF than I think its one of the most successful. But back to the question I love it I have tons of games, Figures, Posters, Books, pencil cases and other worthless C***.

Andy

[LadySage]

Ummm, actually no. Toriyama did NOT love writing DBZ. He actually wanted to stop after the Frieza Saga, but his editors forced him to continue. He HATED the series after that.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Other rumours even state that the part known as Z was never going to happen if Toriyama had his way. Which I can believe. Son Goku finally winning the Tenkaichi Budokai after three tries was just about the perfect ending.

[Pachinko]

I like dbz because the characters are really unique and totalyl break all the trends an shit and aen't all shint and shit. so whats ur opinins?

Shint?

No, I think this anime is sick-nasty.

[Ghostmaster]

DBZ is not the worst show out there. There is definately much worse. However what makes it not work is the repitition and how long the show is. and DBGT sucks balls all together. I actually liked Dragonball the best.

[Mana]

The Dragonball manga was a lot of mindless fun, though I haven't seen much of the anime of it. As far as the anime is concerned, DB/DBZ in Spanish is funny, the drunker you are, the funnier it gets.

[Ghostmaster]

The Dragonball manga was a lot of mindless fun, though I haven't seen much of the anime of it. As far as the anime is concerned, DB/DBZ in Spanish is funny, the drunker you are, the funnier it gets.

I have seen it in Spanish it is a pure laughter fest. The theme song opening is freakin gold.

[Starwind Amada]

The French opening is better. It's basically some French chick with fake boobs singing the same verse over and over while superimposed on scenes from the series (I think she rides on Shenron's head at one point and runs with young Gohan). It's really corny.

[(V)]

The funny thing is in every forum i have ever joined there is at least one noob that joins and asks if people like Dragon ball Z. I havent realy watch DBZ but i did watch Dragon ball and a little bit of GT. (Both the dubb) I have been told that it is much better sub but i dont know if i would like it i didnt like the two i saw not because of what they said i just dont realy like the Story line ... To hero Vs. Bad guy over and over and over. No story twists.

[Starwind Amada]

People who say the sub is better are idiots. Not because of their opinion, but because of the fact that a different language doesn't change the story. Even if the voices are bad, it's still the same show. Okay, DBZ was edited at first, but now it's available uncut, so those purists have nothing to whine about.

[Tyrdium]

A n00b, huh?

What is it, exactly, that gives you the right to look down on her? Your status? Her opinion? The fact that she had the gall to ask what other people thought?Have you read her posts?

[Javer]

Okay, so maybe that wasn't totally thought through.

I guess it bothers me that that was pretty much the first sign of aggression against Demi, and already somebody's jumped right ahead and condemned her to "n00b" status.

[Milkymagic]

I love Noob Saibot! My favorite MK character!

Why?

Because he was a shadow that played like Scorpion/Sub-zero/Reptile and was even harder to unlock than Smoke! Plus, you gotta love the name, and the "just tacked on" nature of his character. Maybe I should make Noob Saibot fan-fiction?

Story: Noob Saibot kills Ewoks because he can't stand their voices, but their chief Baraka stands in front to protect them, can Noob have his way? All this and Sabrewulf from Killer Instinct with a guest appearance! Tune in!

No, but seriously, calling somebody a n00b isn't polite. It's not like being the most hardcore fan will win you a trip to Japan with a $100,000 anime shopping spree...unless Anime Jeopardy premers sometime soon! Woo-hoo! Money in the bank! (Don't go stealing my idea now).

[Tyrdium]

No, but seriously, calling somebody a n00b isn't polite. It's not like being the most hardcore fan will win you a trip to Japan with a $100,000 anime shopping spree...unless Anime Jeopardy premers sometime soon! Woo-hoo! Money in the bank! (Don't go stealing my idea now).Oh, we don't at all mind if you're not a hardcore fan. Most of us have lives, after all. What we do mind is acting like a "n00b". This includes atrocious spelling and grammar.

[kyubichan]

What we do mind is acting like a "n00b". This includes atrocious spelling and grammar.

Here, here. I wonder what Mr. 'chazer's going to say about that though... and isn't anyone going to cut in and say "This thread is about DBZ, not noobs, give it a rest"?

[Milkymagic]

lol! The ADV Downloads thread is debating between formats of media at the moment, and The Right Stuf Deal thread had some hard drive rants. It happens. But then, the first one about downloads was related to the subject, while this one did have typing formalities slapped in. Still, it happens (I'm living of proof of "it happens"). Bottom Line: it's inevitable. But I don't mind how you type, as long I as I can understand you (again, that's just me).

I did hear about how DBZ was supposed to end after 100-something episodes (which was forcefully made), it's a shame how the creative powers of an author are shaken around like they're of no value. Granted, some of these creators are completely nuts when given enough space (but in Hideaki Anno's case, I love the guy's scope). I'm not a true DBZ fan, but I could understand the reason for the series' quality being better in its originally intended length, so there was meant to be integrity somewhere. But that's another take on the subject for me.

Carry on!

[LadyYuina]

I used to like DBZ when I was younger, but not anymore.

[miss demi]

hi its demi again. bonjour!!!!


i see some people like dbz. its not my favorite anime either but i think its fun to watch. im happy some other peeps think so to. :)



i really like gotanks in the boo season. he's prettyy baddass.

[soundchazer]

Horrible anime. Should have stopped at the original and funnier Dragonball.

[kLaUS]

No. I used to like it, but then i grew up and move on. Some people should...

[zarahf]

Mixed emotions on the subject o DBZ: While I have to admit DBZ has never really turned me on. I do have an odd emotional attachment to it. Long before I discovered a passion for the anime genera I would catch glimpses of DBZ and wonder what it was. It piqued my interest. This interest became my love of anime. SO don't care to watch the show but like it all the same.

[Zelkiiro]

Horrible anime. Should have stopped at the original and funnier Dragonball.
The first 40 or so episodes were good, but they just had to go into space...

:bashhead

[Phate]

The Cell Saga was pretty cool, imo.

Oh wait I've already posted in here.

[laborpilot86]

DBZ is the crack-cociane of Anime. It's not good for you, but the people who like it worship it like a god

[So Panic.]

Toriyama: Yeah, at that time, I enjoyed talking about story, rather than drawing story. Going by sagas, I only thought about each part, one month at a time. I kept digging the same hole. The most difficult part was when Trunks appeared. The more I wrote and drew, the less it made sense. It was a difficult time.

Torishima: Yeah...nobody has that kind of patience except Kondo. I couldn't have been that patient.

Toriyama: You're saying that Torishima? That's terrible. Remember that time Artificial Humans 19 and 20 appeared? You weren't in the management position at the time, but you called me at my house and said, "Mr. Toriyama, after waiting for the enemy, it turns out to be just an old man and a fat guy." (laughing) Truth is, we had only planned to use 19 and 20. We had another choice, so we sent 17 and 18. And you said, "I'm dissapointed, they're just kids.". So I sent Cell.

Takeda: You mean you didn't plan to send Cell?

Toriyama: That's right. I liked 19 and 20. Later I ended up liking 1st Stage Cell.

Takeda: That bug? You liked that bug?

Toriyama: Then Kondo said, "He looks okay, but of course he can change". So we decided to change him to a second form.

Kondo: Really? I don't remember that.

Toriyama: After that, Kondo was terribly mean. He said, "This time, Cell looks stupid. Why not make him Perfect?".

Kondo: Well, it looked...really stupid! (laughs)

Toriyama: Second stage, I liked that, and I wanted him to have more time, but we had no choice but to change him. So we made a Perfect Cell, which Kondo liked.


That being said by Mr. Toriyama himself, I think this member of the Daizenshuu EX board put it perfectly,


Also, simply looking at how the Freeza arc was written, it's clear that it was intended to be the climax to the series. Everything comes full circle; the great villain of the universe is defeated by none other than the legendary hero, Goku. You can also see that the ending they eventually came up with (Saichourou reviving and Goku escaping in Ginyu's space pod) is shakey at best, and doesn't really fit in with the overall weight of the battle. You can also see the intended ending with the Cell arc, and the intended ending with the Buu arc, but thankfully Toriyama just threw up his hands at that point and dumped the series on Toei.

So yeah, without a doubt Toriyama was 100% pressured to prolong the series beyond his desired length, but no, I don't believe there's any hard proof of Toriyama ever speaking out against Toei or Shuueisha on the matter.

It's unfortunate, because I honestly think that if Dragon Ball had ended with the Freeza arc, it would have easily been one of the best written shounen series of all time. The writing was so tight up to that point, but then when you get into Super Saiyan 2 and whatnot, the weight and urgency of the story completely falls apart and it becomes a marketing scheme. It's a ****ing shame...

I'm double-posting because I didn't want to add my own opinion next to the person I quoted's opinion.

While I was vaguely interested in Dragonball/Z/GT as a teenager I was regularly lefty bored because of the continuous fighting. I, myself, believe this was more of my own interest for shows with a more dramatic substance that focus on drawing out the characters and not the episodes. However, I also believe that Dragonball/Z/GT wasn't ever meant to be the type of show I would generally watch anyway. it simply wasn't targeted for people like me.

A thing I tend to notice is people will generally give a biased opinion on something they know little or nothing about. Several members have shown to have at least basic knowledge of the series (such as soundchazer, zarahf, Phate, Zelkiiro, etc.) and because of that I respect their opinion based on the merit that they have given it a chance and simply found not to care for it.

A problem I believe the anime community has in general and tends to take out on Dragonball/Z/GT aloung with several other shows is that they will base them all off of a single criteria regardless of their intended sucess. At Anime Academy, these criteria (alothough not officially listed to the best of my knowledge) are Good Story, Good Animation, Good Cast, Good Characters, Good Score. I'm using "good" very loosely here.

I don't intend to get into the flaws of Anime Academy's grading style simply because that is for another thread on another day but I do believe that as far as Dragonball/Z/GT goes opinions should be formed based on what DB/Z/GT achieves in doing for it's own success and popularity rather than how the series fails fails in comparision to anime that are completely different or have little similartiy to DB/Z/GT.

[kobi666]

Isn't there anyone happy about watching the whole dbz series?
i mean , i do think it sucks, that's its too long (so long that you can travel to amsterdam smoke tons of weed forget your a dbz fan' go to rehab, start recalling your a dbz fan' come back home' smoke more weed and eat munchies before piccoro twiches his face)
but i remember the orgasam i got when the z fighters FINALLY defeated the bad guys, kinda like you want to take a piss but your busy for hours then you come home and well... u know...

[Mana]

A problem I believe the anime community has in general and tends to take out on Dragonball/Z/GT aloung with several other shows is that they will base them all off of a single criteria regardless of their intended sucess. At Anime Academy, these criteria (alothough not officially listed to the best of my knowledge) are Good Story, Good Animation, Good Cast, Good Characters, Good Score. I'm using "good" very loosely here.

I don't intend to get into the flaws of Anime Academy's grading style simply because that is for another thread on another day but I do believe that as far as Dragonball/Z/GT goes opinions should be formed based on what DB/Z/GT achieves in doing for it's own success and popularity rather than how the series fails fails in comparision to anime that are completely different or have little similartiy to DB/Z/GT.

Because this is some way reflects myself, I feel the need to talk about it. Bear in mind, I've been reviewing for quite some time, but for only a short time with AA.

First of all, we don't compare anime. Sometimes, a show may be mentioned in a review of another show (similarites, sequels, and the like), but that's the extent of linking shows. Yes, anime will and do get different grades, but saying that AA compares DBZ with shows that are completely different is false, because there is no comparison there, implied or stated.

Reviewing something based on a standard form is something that can, and always will, be used by a reviewer. It keeps reviewers as impartial and fair as they can be, and they use it to explore something for it's own merits.

Reviewing something based on success and popularity is, well, rather pointless. If that were the case, Doreamon would get 100% and anime that are, indeed, good would get shite reviews because they failed to draw in as much of an audience. How do you rate something based on how long you can show it on TV and still make money, or how much merchandise you can sell?

[Pedro The Hutt]

That post, Kobi666, made no sense what so ever.

[kobi666]

That post, Kobi666, made no sense what so ever.

abkorse it does

waiting for something so very long, even if it sucks but your still expecting it (because of hype or whatever reason you my have)
it gives u a great feeling of relaxation, or rather a burden off your back
for a dbz example, i remember that it took so many episodes to kill cell that i was screaming at the tv for days "go get him gohan!!! kick his mothers ass!!!"
stuff like that.
the point was, no matter what u invest yourself in or give yourself to, when its over and u have the outcome, it feels great!

[Xfox*X]

Commas, dear. They are your friend.

...No, I do not like DBZ, or any of it's incarnations. To me, the anime is horrible.

commas? i dont know what they are for.

but for the topic i use to like dbz when i was younger but i dont care for it anymore.

[NausicaaBoy]

DBZ is only one word. Coincedently found in the name. BALLS

[kobi666]

face it... everyyone watched dbz at first...
dbz is like anime tutorial... it gives u th basics about the humor and all that

[laborpilot86]

No.

But it has had an impact in terms of getting more people into anime, and you have to respect that

[Tremolo]

face it... everyyone watched dbz at first...

I didn't. I still haven't seen a full episode.

So there.

[Phate]

I didn't. I still haven't seen a full episode.

So there.
So... DBZ might be the best anime you've ever seen, but you don't know it yet. I suggest you watch it.

All of it.

[Tremolo]

So... DBZ might be the best anime you've ever seen, but you don't know it yet. I suggest you watch it.

All of it.

I refuse.

It's far too long anyway. And what's the point when there's (pre-filler) Naruto which does the same thing, only better and prettier? I can't stand Toriyama's character designs and it's all just generally lame and not worth my time.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Fine, have you ever watched an episode, or read a chapter of the ORIGINAL Dragonball? (aka Pre-Z) That, in my opinion still counts as one of the most hilarious and fun martial arts comedy manga out there. (How can you NOT love a character suddenly winning from a revolting foul smelling character because it dawned on him that he has no nose?)

[(V)]

I hate dragon ball z, but i love dragon ball.

[Xfox*X]

Fine, have you ever watched an episode, or read a chapter of the ORIGINAL Dragonball? (aka Pre-Z) That, in my opinion still counts as one of the most hilarious and fun martial arts comedy manga out there. (How can you NOT love a character suddenly winning from a revolting foul smelling character because it dawned on him that he has no nose?)

i like db still after that it just seem to get harder and harder to watch.

[sweetnightmares]

I like DB and DBZ, but i generally agree with the Academys score of the series. I for 1 have seen worst anime then dbz it gets picked on so much because of how popular it got.

[Shadowmage]

...it gets picked on so much because of how popular it got.

The fandom is far more of a problem than the actual series itself.

[kyubichan]

The fandom is far more of a problem than the actual series itself.

True. A fan screaming "DBZ ROXXORZ!" and trying to make everyone agree is more annoying that the numerous and tedious power-ups of Son Goku.

[kobi666]

True. A fan screaming "DBZ ROXXORZ!" and trying to make everyone agree is more annoying that the numerous and tedious power-ups of Son Goku.


yeah but they all get over it, and then they go to see other anime
ive said something about dbz in an earlier post, that it gives someone the basics about anime, it also gives you a feeling that everything's possible
in israel we had a phenomenon of kids walking in the street and suddenly shouting "kame-hame-ha!!!" and doing the all-so famous dragon ball move
people who get addicted to dbz and go deep in the plot start bealiving they can be Z-fighters, seriously!! totally cool!!

[kyubichan]

in israel we had a phenomenon of kids walking in the street and suddenly shouting "kame-hame-ha!!!" and doing the all-so famous dragon ball move

That happens here too ^^ kids go "Kame-hame waaaaaaaaaaave!" (DBZ) or "rei gun!" (YYH) It's cute when kids do it... but not when grown ups do.

[kobi666]

That happens here too ^^ kids go "Kame-hame waaaaaaaaaaave!" (DBZ) or "rei gun!" (YYH) It's cute when kids do it... but not when grown ups do.

when i was saying kids, i meant something like 16-25.... smaller kids watch sakura card captor... or inuyasha.. dunno really i haven't watched tv for about a year and a half now so im out of date at that one... still SO cute!!!!

BTW... is it everyone's thought that DBGTsucks????

[Pedro The Hutt]

In Japan Dragonball is very much a kid's anime... and manga. >.>;;

For that matter, so many people crack down on the hour long charge-up sequences, which the manga doesn't suffer off nearly as much. (Behold, Toei extended the charging up of attacks or gathering power as a means of filler material, cheeky devils)

[Dark Lord]

when i was saying kids, i meant something like 16-25.... smaller kids watch sakura card captor... or inuyasha.. dunno really i haven't watched tv for about a year and a half now so im out of date at that one... still SO cute!!!!

BTW... is it everyone's thought that DBGTsucks????
Wait... Seriously? Aren't ages 16-25 practically adult already? People of that age do stuff like that? If so, I don't want to grow up... As for DBGT, I haven't seen it... and I don't intend to...

[Darkdreams]

DB was a decent anime, and DBZ was okay until the end of the Freiza Saga. I kept watching it after that, but then it just got rediculous, the power-ups, the training, more power-ups, more . . . it just left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Then a return to Son Goku to childhood, not worth the money it cost to make it. But still, in pop culture, DBZ is still really liked by the smaller kids, and by about 1/3 of the friends I know who are into anime still like DBZ and DBGT. I just don't know . . .

[kyubichan]

when i was saying kids, i meant something like 16-25.... smaller kids watch sakura card captor... or inuyasha.. dunno really i haven't watched tv for about a year and a half now so im out of date at that one... still SO cute!!!!

BTW... is it everyone's thought that DBGTsucks????

Kids watch InuYasha? Hmmm...

DBGT sucks compared to the earlier sagas.

@someone who said 16-25 = kids???

In our country, you're a kid until you're 18 XD Even then, older people treat you like a kid. Especially when you look like one. *points to self*

[Xfox*X]

Kids watch InuYasha? Hmmm...

DBGT sucks compared to the earlier sagas.

@someone who said 16-25 = kids???

In our country, you're a kid until you're 18 XD Even then, older people treat you like a kid. Especially when you look like one. *points to self*

yea iam 19 now and i still get your just a kid crap but it helps when people still think iam 16 and get into things cheaper.
i thought dbgt sucked it didnt make sense how goku was akid again.

[kobi666]

yea iam 19 now and i still get your just a kid crap but it helps when people still think iam 16 and get into things cheaper.
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i have the same problem and advantage... **** il be 20 in two weeks and people still ask me where i go to school... and wont bealive at bars (actually its because in my id im blond cuz i took the picture at poorim (jewish halloween) and i dressed as cloud strife...) )
israelis stay kids up until the age of 50... then they think solely about money and how their kids should make more...

[kyubichan]

*Oh, how I love freshmen ! ^^ So, casual!*

Back to topic: I watched the original DB back in grade school, and I must say, I first thought it was strange that Bulma doesn't seem to grow any older. But then, I grew older by years, but my looks remained the same, and I went "Ah, so it is possible..." XD Probably an Asian thing.

[Pedro The Hutt]

By comparison Goku went from chibi to adult within three years though. XD That's one mighty growth spurt.

[kobi666]

By comparison Goku went from chibi to adult within three years though. XD That's one mighty growth spurt.
he is also a super-sayajin and would have probably lived to a 10000 years if vegeta didnt kill him....
wait a second... was it ever told of a sayajin dying of natural causes???
i think they live forever until they die...(edit.... of un-natural causes... or rather someone kills them...)

[Starwind Amada]

i think they live forever until they die...

Uh... :3huh:

[focker919]

i used to love the show...then i saw inuyasha, which i thought put dbz to shame...then i saw anime worth watching...and cursed myself for ever liking either. sure, both are entertaining for about 20 episodes, then you realize that nothing actually happened.

however, dbz's saving grace is that its freakin hilarious to watch now (namely for the fact that i watch it with the knowledge that i used to like it) that is something that i doubt inuyasha will ever have.

[Edward Foust]

I liked it when it first came out, then it just got more and more inane.
I just got fed up with it and stopped paying attention after a while.

[Starwind Amada]

Plus, DBZ is followed up by DBGT, while Inuyasha just ends on a cliffhanger after 160 episodes.

[Pedro The Hutt]

On the other hand you don't have to concider DBGT as part of the DB continuity (nor should you concider all of the anime part of it) as it was done without Toriyama's involvement.

As to Inu-Yasha, the manga's still going if you want to know how it really ends. o:

[Wonfei]

I love DBZ. I just watched the whole series again on youtube. I mean sure some episodes are boring at parts but i skiped those parts. It's funny at times and the battles are awesome. It's like the matirx in my opinon. It started it all. Without DBZ i doubt half of u guys reading this would be into anime. Maybe i am biased cause it was my 1st but i love it

[JigokuHime]

DBZ was one of the first anime i watched when i was younger ^^
I would watch some parts over again besides watching the whole series

[WarCry]

I pretty much have the same opinion on dbz as Pedro. It was one of the first animes I watched along with Ranma and City Hunter and It's fun to see for the nostalgia. A couple of years ago I discovered more sophisticated animes and, just like a lot of people, suddenly rejected it and went on a elitist dbz hate spree. However recently I've read the manga of the pre saiya-jin era and I have to say it's one of the most hilarious stories I've ever read. I actually finished all of them in about 2 days. I agree that the powering up scenes and all that are WAY too stretched and drags the series to it's limits but as Pedro said, just read the manga instead and those problems are solved.

And what's all this Inuyasha hatred hype about these days? Back when the series had aired about 50 episodes a couple of years back, everybody on this forum was praising it to heaven. I even remember Kain himself making a thread about how much he was looking forward to the first movie. I agree that it's not the best most innovative series out there but it's definitely not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. My guess is Inuyasha has just become popular nowadays with fans making it out to be the best anime in history and that's why elitists start bashing to down to the ground. Some people should really learn not to be bothered by such trivial things and stick to their own opinions.

[LadySage]

And what's all this Inuyasha hatred hype about these days? Back when the series had aired about 50 episodes a couple of years back, everybody on this forum was praising it to heaven. I even remember Kain himself making a thread about how much he was looking forward to the first movie. I agree that it's not the best most innovative series out there but it's definitely not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. My guess is Inuyasha has just become popular nowadays with fans making it out to be the best anime in history and that's why elitists start bashing to down to the ground. Some people should really learn not to be bothered by such trivial things and stick to their own opinions.

Here's the thing: around midway through, Inu-Yasha TANKED in its plot. It became stagnant as they fought minion after minion, puppet after puppet, without ever actually touching Naraku himself, who was just too powerful a villain. You can have charming, quirky characters, a creatively imagined world, and excellent action (all of which it had), but if you can't make a dent in the villain's forces after over 160 episodes, it's not going to be good.

[kyubichan]

And what's all this Inuyasha hatred hype about these days? Back when the series had aired about 50 episodes a couple of years back, everybody on this forum was praising it to heaven.

Kinda OT, but... Well you said it yourself, "BACK WHEN IT AIRED ABOUT 50 EPISODES". How many episodes is it now? And did the story actually go, where? I disliked InuYasha after about 3 episodes, so I don't belong to the group that praised it before, but my theory is that people just got tired of it (like Power Rangers, it keeps going on and on and on...). It's probably the same as Pokemon and DBZ, the first few episodes/sagas were okay, but it got to darn long.

EDIT:

After watching some older Takahashi stuff, I can see that Inu-Yasha has one huge flaw:

No Lum.

Sir Roark has a point. At least Ranma 1/2 had Shampoo.

[Roark]

After watching some older Takahashi stuff, I can see that Inu-Yasha has one huge flaw:

No Lum.

[Phate]

After watching some older Takahashi stuff, I can see that Inu-Yasha has one huge flaw:

No Lum.
Ranma got along fine without her. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/Ph4t3/Emot/emot-colbert.gif






The first three seasons and the OVAs anyway.

[Roark]

Yes, but Ranma had some decent substitutes.

[KiraraKim]

I think Inuyasha going on and on forever (I am talking about the manga here) annoys me more than DBZ's length because at least when I started watching DBZ I knew it was already over.

At one time Inuyasha was my favorite series and I still have a soft spot for it but it's just way too long. It's ridiculous. Although since I put so much time into it already and I do like the characters I will read it till the end. Based on recent events I do think it is reaching its conclusion (but then again I thought that before too).

[Roark]

To be fair, a lot of Takahashi stuff goes on a long time. Urusei Yatsura is almost 200 episodes plus movies, OAV's, and specials. Ranma takes up, what is it, seven seasons? Maison Ikkoku is svelte at 40 episodes or so.

[Mana]

Inuyasha will last as long as the manga company producing it wants it to. Sure, Takahashi could flat out refuse and end it, but it would leave a bad taste between her and the company.

As far as Inuyasha goes... eh, after experiencing so many of her older (awesome) works, Inuyasha just fell flat to me. I was never really that interested in the first place, and it seems like it's just gotten worse.

Oh, and Maison Ikkoku is 90 some episodes, and 15 or so volumes long.

[Roark]

Gah, I thought it was a bit shorter than that. I guess that would count as short, buy Ranma and Urusei Yatsura standards.

[Mana]

Yeah, it is still rather short compared to most, not counting OAVs and the like, since the Mermaid books were originally only made into 2 hour long OAVs >>;

[Roark]

I forget how long the Rumic World series was. I know the old Rumic Theatre OAV's were fairly short.

[KiraraKim]

Inuyasha will last as long as the manga company producing it wants it to. Sure, Takahashi could flat out refuse and end it, but it would leave a bad taste between her and the company.

As far as Inuyasha goes... eh, after experiencing so many of her older (awesome) works, Inuyasha just fell flat to me. I was never really that interested in the first place, and it seems like it's just gotten worse.

Oh, and Maison Ikkoku is 90 some episodes, and 15 or so volumes long.


Actually you are wrong, Takahashi has more pull than you think in this case. Takahashi was asked by the anime company when the manga would be over and she herself said she doesn't know and is not ready to end it. She talked about the 500th chapter but I don't think it is going to end exactly there.

[Mana]

I never said she didn't have pull. Obviously artists will always maintain a certain amount of rights and direction in their work. A lot of people just don't realize that, in Japan, production companies also have a large say in the matter. Of course, that comes into play a lot more often with younger, newer, and less famous mangaka.

[KiraraKim]

I understand I am just saying in this case Takahashi is not being forced to continue the manga. She can stop it whenever she wants.

I think part of the problem is she just started writing things as ideas popped in her head and never officially planned out the ending for the story. She said in an interview that she is not sure how she wants to end it. Maybe at this point she does know but as much I do enjoy her story telling I think we can see when you don't plan something out even a good story can go downhill.