Opinion Blasphemy (Music Edition!)

[silan]

It's a shameless theft of Tremolo's brilliant anime thread, with only a minor addendum to make it look original! Yay!

What opinions do you have about music past and present that go against popular opinion?

Not much else to say. It's a pretty straight-forward topic.

To kick things off:

The Beatles were not the innovators people thought them to be. They were merely the most well-known.
I hate "Bohemian Rhapsody." It's not a brilliant musical creation; it's just a disjointed acid-trip with words. I absolutely cannot stand the song.

[soundchazer]

Your first argument is not blasphemy, but lunacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles%27_influence
http://www.dread.net/~finder/beatles/influence.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-anderson/the-beatles-changed-every_b_11738.html

The second one is a matter of opinion (although I have to wonder if you have ever listened to classical compostion... because plenty of it would feel disjointed to you).

A real blasphemy:

80's music is much better than what people give it credit for.

[Tremolo]

A real blasphemy:

80's music is much better than what people give it credit for.

Agreed.

And a further addition to that blasphemy, I'd take 80's music over 70's music any day. I don't get all the fuss over "classic" 70's rock music. Which leads nicely into...

I think Queen are absolutely terrible.

:D

[soundchazer]

I think Queen are absolutely terrible.


:migrane:

[Tamanegi Sensei]

80s music was a breakthrough because that era had more freedom to sing about other thigs besides Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. 70s was merely about experience with other things and disco. If theres a decade where you can say A-ha! for taking a music video and put it in rotoscope, thats gold right there.

[Tremolo]

:migrane:

I clearly missed out on the "YOU HAVE TO LIKE QUEEN!" memo :rolleyes:

It's all subjective when it comes to music, anyway...but I don't like to be considered some sort of moron because I don't like a band or a particular musical era. :/ This is Opinion Blasphemy after all.

Or are some opinions TOO blasphemous?! :O

[Phate]

This is off the top of my head, and I'm not sure if it counts:

Under Pressure is quite overrated.

[Dirty Harry]

Japanese vocalists are retarded.

[soundchazer]

Japanese vocalists are retarded.

At least 90% of them.

What's with those idiotic Engrish lyrics? Don't they know they sound bad and their grammar sucks?

[silan]

The second one is a matter of opinion (although I have to wonder if you have ever listened to classical compostion... because plenty of it would feel disjointed to you).
:suspiciou Well, yes, I'd have to say I have listened to classical composition. My background and training is in classical music.

[soundchazer]

Then I don't get it. Maybe you are being an elitist. You probably hate prog rock too then.

[LadySage]

Half the time, J-Rock fans like it because it is oh-so-Japanesey.

Hikaru Utada's music sounds exactly like Britney Spears', only she has a prettier voice and sings in Japanese.

[silan]

Then I don't get it. Maybe you are being an elitist. You probably hate prog rock too then.
What the hell are you talking about? You say that liking "Bohemian Rhapsody" or not is a matter of opinion, and then declare I'm being elitist by saying I don't like the song? Not only that, you assume what other types of music I hate based on the fact that one song doesn't sit well with me?

I don't like it, plain and simple. The second half, where it breaks off into rapid notes/words, has been completely ruined for me by countless commercials. Besides that, the fact that the style of it goes completely counter to the first half of the song (which I actually kind of like) leads to a complete upset of the feelings I get from the first half. This in turn ends up leaving the song feeling disjointed, like two completely unrelated, half-finished sentences strung together to form one nonsensical line. While there are some songs that manage such a transition well, this one isn't it IMO. Overall, the songs that appeal the most to me form one complete idea, one musically-expressed emotion. And "Bohemian Rhapsody" is too much of a jumble of different musical ideas for me to enjoy.

Has that explained it enough for your liking? :suspiciou

There's really not much to get, after all.

I just hate it, and the fact that it's touted to be such a masterpiece when there are a ton of other songs out there that I'd say deserve the title more.

[soundchazer]

What the hell are you talking about? You say that liking "Bohemian Rhapsody" or not is a matter of opinion, and then declare I'm being elitist by saying I don't like the song? Not only that, you assume what other types of music I hate based on the fact that one song doesn't sit well with me?

I don't like it, plain and simple. The second half, where it breaks off into rapid notes/words, has been completely ruined for me by countless commercials. Besides that, the fact that the style of it goes completely counter to the first half of the song (which I actually kind of like) leads to a complete upset of the feelings I get from the first half. This in turn ends up leaving the song feeling disjointed, like two completely unrelated, half-finished sentences strung together to form one nonsensical line. While there are some songs that manage such a transition well, this one isn't it IMO. Overall, the songs that appeal the most to me form one complete idea, one musically-expressed emotion. And "Bohemian Rhapsody" is too much of a jumble of different musical ideas for me to enjoy.

Has that explained it enough for your liking? :suspiciou


Yes it did. For the record, it is not the song I like the best... heck, I don't even think it is the best Queen song ever. It was different from most of the stuff heard out there though.

And a further addition to that blasphemy, I'd take 80's music over 70's music any day. I don't get all the fuss over "classic" 70's rock music.

Of course, the fact that Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, The Ramones, The Clash, Sex Pistols and even more accessible (but still good bands) like Fleetwood Mac, The Who, The Eagles, Creedence Clearwater Revival or harder metal like AC-DC or Black Sabbath put out their best material in the 70s has no bearing on your decision, right?

[madpierrot]

Of course, the fact that Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, The Ramones, The Clash, Sex Pistols and even more accessible (but still good bands) like Fleetwood Mac, The Who, The Eagles, Creedence Clearwater Revival or harder metal like AC-DC or Black Sabbath put out their best material in the 70s has no bearing on your decision, right?

Well...
Led Zeppelin - drummer died in 1980 and also they broke up in 1980 so they didn't really have 80's material
Yes - "owner of a lonely heart" was the 80's!!, come on, haha
King Crimsion - well they weren't really good in any decade
Sex Pistols - ummm... sid viscous did in Feb 1979 and the band was broken up by the 80's, you can't even say they had anything other "70's music" and no crappy reunion tours don't count
The Who - this one is probably 60's over 70's but it's close
CCR - you can make a good case the 60's as well for them
AC/DC - man this is hard, but I'm going to say 80's

[soundchazer]

Dude... I was refering to the 80s>70s theory from Trem and how ridiculous it sounds, even to a guy who was a tenn in the 80s and still loves the music.

ANyway... if you think Owner of a Lonely heart is Yes' best material you are stoned.
King Crimson during the Wetton+Bruford+Fripp lineup= Gold.
The Who made their best album, "Who's Next" in 1971.
CCR... yes, that one is half and half... Proud Mary is from 1969, but Have you ever seen the rain, is 1970... but yeah... I may concede that most of their hits where in the late sixties, and specifically 1969.
ACDC.. it's a long way to the top and highway to hell are 70s. I do admit, tha the great album Back in Black was from 1980, but I believe they were a much better band in the 70s.

[madpierrot]

I was just replying to the fact that you said all of those groups had their best material put out in the 70's since I disagreed with some of it and especially since it was impossible for some of them like the Sex Pistols.

[Erigion]

Rap is the pinnacle of music.

Pop music doesn't suck. It's popular for a reason.

All oldies music sucks.

[Kitsurai]

Led Zeppelin's music, even if it's incredibly revered by many today, is still some of the most underrated music in human existence.

[Emeraldas]

I clearly missed out on the "YOU HAVE TO LIKE EVERYTHING SC LIKES!" memo :rolleyes:Fixed


My addition: Wilco is just not that great. I tried to get into them, I really did, but. . . nothin'.

[Erigion]

A few more things.

David Bowie sucks.

Led Zeppelin sucks.

Death Metal is the absolute worst crap on the face of the planet.

A turntable is one of the best instruments known to man.

[sohryu]

David Bowie sucks.
Stupid Eri.

Britney Spears is quality music. Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y

As is certain rap music.

Tupac blows.

[Dirty Harry]

Ashlee Simpson is the greatest vocalist of our times, and I reckon the greatest there ever was or will be. Her voice puts all others to shame.

No Strings Attached was the greatest album of the 90s.

Vanilla Ice > 2pac.

[soundchazer]

You can't spell crap without rap.

Rap is not music.

[Dirty Harry]

You can't spell crap without rap.

Rap is not music.


I challenge that!

10 follars say I can spell crap without rap.

[Akuhei]

I challenge that!

10 follars say I can spell crap without rap.

I'm willing to bet for a currency that doesn't exist.

[Dirty Harry]

I'm willing to bet for a currency that doesn't exist.

mierda. :D

[sohryu]

mierda. :D
* sohryu gives DH 10 follars

[Dirty Harry]

* sohryu gives DH 10 follars

I don't recall you being in on the bet, but I'll take anybody's follars. >_>

But really. Crap, mierda, rap? I'm brilliant.

*DH laughs at poor SC. :(

[sohryu]

I don't recall you being in on the bet, but I'll take anybody's follars. >_>

I wasn't in on the bet, I just stole them from SC. ^___^

[soundchazer]

Fixed


Oh, you can like whatever you like... obviously if it doesn't match what I like it means you have pretty poor taste in music, that is all.

* soundchazer sighs

It is so difficult being me. :p

[Dirty Harry]

Oh, you can like whatever you like... obviously if it doesn't match what I like it means you have pretty poor taste in music, that is all.

* soundchazer sighs

It is so difficult being me. :p

SC is at no loss for his ego.

This needs to be retitled "Proving SC Isn't God (Music Edition!)".

[sohryu]

Proving SC isn't God would require mod powerz, DH.

On topic:

Grillz is the best song to come out this year.

[soundchazer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/DampeRIP/SC.png

Because you can't f*cking sing, you poser!

[Kei]

Dragostea Din Tea is the worst song known to man.


~Kei

[Major Tom]

The English version of 99 Luftballons, whilst far from a direct translation, is actually not that bad.

[ant]

Rap and country music kills brain cells. classic rock>whatevertf is out now, techno is the music of the future, jazz is overrated, Rza is right R&B stands for rap and bull****, modern pop music SUCKS, Jpop is akin to listening to fork against a chalkboard, and Korean singers are a bunch of phoney wannabe Japanese hypocrits!

[Daravon]

Hot Water Music are NOT just a bunch of screaming idiots.

[Mana]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/DampeRIP/SC.png

Thread fails for this being the best post in the whole thing.

[Niner]

It is so difficult being me. :p
Hey, forget being you. It's incredibly difficult putting up with you as it is.

As for some blasphemy...

- I hate Prince. I can't stand any of his music and I certainly don't find him attractive in any way at all. So I really don't see why a good number of people like him.

- Country music is completely gawdawful shyte. Croony, puerile songs about how your wife left you for a sheep and how your only friend is your pick-up truck are not something worthwhile listening to.

- Kajiura > Kanno. But only by a little.

Schkkalllablaaaam.

[soundchazer]

Hey, forget being you. It's incredibly difficult putting up with you as it is.

As for some blasphemy...



So says the guy getting all the hate posts recently.

[Niner]

Heh, from silly trolls that got banned for flaming? Sure, I'll take those hate posts anyday as opposed to those from long-time members.

Just so this thread keeps on track...

- I don't really like Billy Joel. I know he's a great musician and all, but there's just something about his music I don't like.

- Pop had its heyday in the '60s. I mean, c'mon. The Beatles, the Beach Boys, Stevie Wonder, Simon and Garfunkel, Burt Bacarach, Neil Diamond, etc. You really don't get much better than that.

- The female singing voice is generally more pleasant to listen to than the male version.

[Tremolo]

Of course, the fact that Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, The Ramones, The Clash, Sex Pistols and even more accessible (but still good bands) like Fleetwood Mac, The Who, The Eagles, Creedence Clearwater Revival or harder metal like AC-DC or Black Sabbath put out their best material in the 70s has no bearing on your decision, right?

No. Not a lot of those bands appeal to me at all, apart from the occasional Floyd, Who and Clash song. I don't get why there seems to be some kind of stigma in the musical world that you have to like "classic" or "legendary" bands. I know they made very innovative music and I'm not disputing that for an instant, but they just don't appeal to me all that much. I'd take The Cure over any of them.

[soundchazer]

Heh, from silly trolls that got banned for flaming? Sure, I'll take those hate posts anyday as opposed to those from long-time members.

Hey dude, I'm just giving people what they are expecting from me. I have stopped short from banning on a whim, but seriously, just because I'm opinionated doesn't make me a bad person. I'm just more forceful about getting my message across than most. All this "it is difficult being me" is just my way of laughing off the silly comments people like Emeraldas put saying that I WANT/FORCE people to agree with me. Well... I don't, but don't expect me to avoid discussion when I disagree with you to keep you happy. And no, I won't ban people because of it.


- Pop had its heyday in the '60s. I mean, c'mon. The Beatles, the Beach Boys, Stevie Wonder, Simon and Garfunkel, Burt Bacarach, Neil Diamond, etc. You really don't get much better than that.

- The female singing voice is generally more pleasant to listen to than the male version.

Those are not blasphemies, those are the facts.

Adding another blasphemy... the 90's was the worst decade in rock/pop music. Seriously... apart from Nirvana, Radiohead and maybe Oasis and Garbage on the pop side and some 80s bands that made it big in the 90s like R.E.M., what really good, non-grunge derivative group made good music in the mainstream? It appears most quality bands were little bands that printed 5,000 CDs at best.

Everything was all about (c)rap, grunge clones and Mariah Carey wannabes (oh, and those horrible horrible teen starlets and boy bands).

[Tremolo]

Adding another blasphemy... the 90's was the worst decade in rock/pop music. Seriously... apart from Nirvana, Radiohead and maybe Oasis and Garbage on the pop side and some 80s bands that made it big in the 90s like R.E.M., what really good, non-grunge derivative group made good music in the mainstream? It appears most quality bands were little bands that printed 5,000 CDs at best.

Everything was all about (c)rap, grunge clones and Mariah Carey wannabes (oh, and those horrible horrible teen starlets and boy bands).

I think I'd actually cautiously agree with you there, despite being a 90's child myself. Speaking of Oasis, I'd also add Blur, Pulp and Suede as part of the whole Britpop scene (Stone Roses, too...although they were "Madchester"), and the Manic Street Preachers. U2 also made their best music in the 90's, in my opinion. I dunno what category Tori Amos falls under, but her 90's stuff is way better than her 00's stuff. The alternative stuff of the 90's was far more note-worthy, I agree.

I've probably left out a ton of names, but that's just off the top of my head.

[Ninja Realist]

- Pop had its heyday in the '60s. I mean, c'mon. The Beatles, the Beach Boys, Stevie Wonder, Simon and Garfunkel, Burt Bacarach, Neil Diamond, etc. You really don't get much better than that

Plenty of great, modern, pop groups, but most have kind of gone under the radar.

Of Montreal, Belle and Sebastian, The Fiery Furnaces, The Unicorns and there are more.

[soundchazer]

I think I'd actually cautiously agree with you there, despite being a 90's child myself. Speaking of Oasis, I'd also add Blur, Pulp and Suede as part of the whole Britpop scene (Stone Roses, too...although they were "Madchester"), and the Manic Street Preachers. U2 also made their best music in the 90's, in my opinion. I dunno what category Tori Amos falls under, but her 90's stuff is way better than her 00's stuff. The alternative stuff of the 90's was far more note-worthy, I agree.

I've probably left out a ton of names, but that's just off the top of my head.

Again, I could quote a good chunk of groups, the problem is they either were one hit or one record wonders, or did not have global appeal. Pulp and Suede were virtual unknowns in Mexico. Blur only had the hit "Girls and Boys" over here and to a lesser degree "Song 2". People in the U.S. in general never knew about the Cranberries, or the Sundays or the Cardigans and they were big in Mexico and Europe.

Still, they never carried the weight and appeal of a Duran Duran, U2, R.E.M., B-52s, Spandau Ballet (in the early 80s), Depeche Mode, The Cure, New Order, Simple minds, etc. etc. which were known EVERYWHERE. Even the obscure bands were a bit more exciting... Bauhaus, Siouxie and the Banshies, The Smiths... and I could go on and on... they were underground, but they had mass appeal in the underground world EVERYWHERE too.

As for U2, that is debatable. While Achtung baby is their best album and was released in 1990, most of their most recognized and like tunes were from the 80s (Sunday Bloody Sunday, new Years day, (pride) in the name of love, with or without you, where the streets have no name, desire, Angel of harlem, etc. etc.)

[kyubichan]

Blasphemy (?) :

Jpop is better than American pop music.

This only applies to those I've heard. Most pop songs on the radio have the same love and me-against-the-world themes that try so hard to be serious. The Jpop songs I listen to, with the funny lyrics and funky beats, don't try to be serious coz I think they know that their theme/genre is already cliche, thus they make the best out of it instead. I don't mind the Engrish. Bad English hurts my ears (and eyes) only when I read or hear it from groups that I know have English as their native language.

[loner]

Music don't have to be all original and creative to be good. If it's got a good tune and the singer sings like he/she really cares about his/her music (and of course actually knows how to sing), I'd gladly put the song in my Ipod...uh....music-playing thingie >_> So what if it sounds familiar to the Beatles? I'd say that's a good thing.

[Ninja Realist]

Again, I could quote a good chunk of groups, the problem is they either were one hit or one record wonders, or did not have global appeal. Pulp and Suede were virtual unknowns in Mexico. Blur only had the hit "Girls and Boys" over here and to a lesser degree "Song 2". People in the U.S. in general never knew about the Cranberries, or the Sundays or the Cardigans and they were big in Mexico and Europe.

Still, they never carried the weight and appeal of a Duran Duran, U2, R.E.M., B-52s, Spandau Ballet (in the early 80s), Depeche Mode, The Cure, New Order, Simple minds, etc. etc. which were known EVERYWHERE. Even the obscure bands were a bit more exciting... Bauhaus, Siouxie and the Banshies, The Smiths... and I could go on and on... they were underground, but they had mass appeal in the underground world EVERYWHERE too.

As for U2, that is debatable. While Achtung baby is their best album and was released in 1990, most of their most recognized and like tunes were from the 80s (Sunday Bloody Sunday, new Years day, (pride) in the name of love, with or without you, where the streets have no name, desire, Angel of harlem, etc. etc.)


Mass Appeal does not a good band make.

[f1rst children]

Pop music doesn't suck. It's popular for a reason.


"Underground is what they call music that no one wants to buy."
- MC Hammer

#1. Rakim is the greatest American writer in the last 30 years.

#2. Your parents' music is better than yours.

#3. The guitar is overrated. The piano is underrated.

[Pachinko]

"Underground is what they call music that no one wants to buy."
- MC Hammer

#1. Rakim is the greatest American writer in the last 30 years.

#2. Your parents' music is better than yours.

#3. The guitar is overrated. The piano is underrated.

#1. It really depends on which angle you look at it.

#2. Not my parents, that's for sure.

#3. Totally agree with you on that one.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

"Underground is what they call music that no one wants to buy."
- MC Hammer

#1. Rakim is the greatest American writer in the last 30 years.

#2. Your parents' music is better than yours.

#3. The guitar is overrated. The piano is underrated.

#1--totally opinion

#2--depends on your parents

#3--not totally true about the guitar. Id rather pick up bass or drums. True about the piano though.

[soundchazer]

Mass Appeal does not a good band make.

Well... it all depends really.

I think that when the quality of music is only found in really small garage band-type environments, then the whole effort is a failure. Most of the bands mentioned here had a good following and were better than others at their time and with the type of music they were attempting to create. I could mention several others that were wildly popular and were not good enough (heart, poison, ratt, etc. etc.)

[Two-twenty]

If you have to take ecstasy and wear glow-in-the-dark shit to enjoy it, then it's not music.

[LadySage]

The Barenaked Ladies are some of the absolute best lyricists of the last 15 years of popular music.

[swankygoose]

Rap sucks, Screamo sucks, Country sucks, Ska is probably the most underappreciated music out there, go out and love it now. Cause honestly I don't wanna hear another song about someone cutting there wrists, or how there cows died, or how much they like menthols and shiny fake teeth.

[Sakaki Onsei]

Blasphemy (but truth, nevertheless)The expert Disc Jockey knows all.

That would be me, BTW.

The Beatles may be the biggest in inspirations, but it doesn't mean they were good.
The bands that are the best are the ones that you love.

A-ha, Roxy Music, Alan Parsons, those are great bands.

[soundchazer]

A-ha... meh
Roxy Music = Brian Ferry for the win! (More than this owns you)
Alan Parsons... hit and miss (Psychobabble, whoah Psychobabble!)

[Tamanegi Sensei]

R.I.P: Ska. Cause of death: Gwen Stephani leaving or No doubt existing, source unknown.

Way back in the Way Back Machine, there have been a few songs that had creepy messages in em like, "I buried Paul" in Strawberry Fields and Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds talkin about LCD and it's results.

Coincidently the number 27 is in famous with lots of 70s rockers...seeing is how 3 of em al died at 27 on ODed drugs and alcohol. 200 bonus points if you can guess who they are.

[silan]

What?

[Phate]

#2. Your parents' music is better than yours.

Yes and no.

Anyway, The Dark Side of the Moon is one of the most overrated albums that I have come across. "Money" and "Time" are only the good songs. Along with that, Metallica (the "Black Album") > Ride the Lightning. Suck that, Metallica elitists. Also, country music is far better than people like to say it is.

Tommy blows, and Baroque is hideously overrated.

Will make sure to post others later with the sole purpose to increase post count.

R.I.P: Ska. Cause of death: Gwen Stephani leaving or No doubt existing, source unknown.

Way back in the Way Back Machine, there have been a few songs that had creepy messages in em like, "I buried Paul" in Strawberry Fields and Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds talkin about LCD and it's results.

Coincidently the number 27 is in famous with lots of 70s rockers...seeing is how 3 of em al died at 27 on ODed drugs and alcohol. 200 bonus points if you can guess who they are.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/Ph4t3/Misc%20Garbage/yourlanguageissilly.jpg

[swankygoose]

Oh and I don't care what anyone else says, but I think that Sugar Ray is a great band, and that Green Day has the amazing power to suck and blow at the same time.

[Erigion]

For better or worse, NWA has been one of the most influential acts in the musical world.

[silan]

Green Day has the amazing power to suck and blow at the same time.
Well that's an interesting talent, although kind of risque for a G-rated forum.

More blasphemy!

Country music really isn't that bad. Or, rather, it's only as bad as standard pop music: repetitive, inane, and uninspired. No better, no worse.
Rap music is actually music. If a drum solo, which is pure rhythm, is considered music, then so is rap, which is merely rhythm backed up by one musical line repeating over and over and over again.

[Tamanegi Sensei]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/Ph4t3/Misc%20Garbage/yourlanguageissilly.jpg
You fail for not getting the reference.

Coincidently the number 27 is in famous with lots of 70s rockers...seeing is how 3 of em all died at 27 on ODed drugs and alcohol.

I find your lack of Morrison, Joplin, and Hendrix disturbing

[Daravon]

'Money' is without a doubt the worst song on DSOTM. It's like Electioneering is to OK Computer.

[Major Tom]

- Kajiura > Kanno. But only by a little.

And Ootani > Kajiura. I'd like to say by a little, but I'd take Ootani over Kajiura anyday.

#3. The guitar is overrated. The piano is underrated.

Except classical guitar. The Piano is definately underrated, but the accordian has become the domain of German polka and Weird Al. I say the accordian is vastly underrated.

[General Suburbia]

- The female singing voice is generally more pleasant to listen to than the male version.
Applicable mostly to pop and maybe country. And I hate both.
Green Day has the amazing power to suck and blow at the same time.
Haha, I'm listening to Green Day right now. Blasphemy: the ability to write well-composed tunes doesn't require the work of a genius. A song with three simple chords or a few straightforward anthems is good enough for me. So sometimes a little Green Day is a good thing. And they never "sold out," they only did what any other sane human being would do.

Other blashpemies:

The Beetles have been corrupted by America. One of their first hits was "I wanna hold your hand." Their last was "Let's do it on the road."

Metallica, while not totally bad, is redundant. Every single song sounds exactly the same as the last.

Queen is overrated.

College will ruin good bands. Look at what happened to Weezer.

Linkin Park sucks.

Final Fantasy music is overrated.

[Niner]

You fail for not getting the reference.
You fail for being completely batshit and reaching new levels of incomprehensibility.

[Jedinator]

Panic! at the Disco sucks something else. They are so Annoying that when I hear them i just want to blow the brains out of the back of my head.

[Pachinko]

Panic! at the Disco sucks something else. They are so Annoying that when I hear them i just want to blow the brains out of the back of my head.

Agreed w/ passion beyond knowledge.

They call this a "band"? I'm sorry, but that lead singer sounds awful. His strange mix of yodeling and shouting irritates the heck out of me. They have all of the little emo-kids eating out of their hands...

[AioshiNYI88]

Linkin Park and Avenged Seven Fold just suck hard, their main markets are stupid pre-teens, If you want to listen to metal listen to Inflames

Madonna just sucks now anyway you put it

You can bash Pink Floyd all you want but I'll take them over any Final Fantasy music, I never knew what was so great about it.

Greenday music today is shit (They tried to rip off Oasis's "Wonderwall" with Boulevard of Broken Dreams) and for the most part their whole musical career is overrated. Rancid is a much better band and Operation Ivy beats everyone.

http://chrissuxs.tripod.com/p/b/operationivy.jpg

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

Linkin Park sucks.

Correction: Linkin Park sucked, they are obviously dead.

Blasphemy:
Most newbies to music ignore the classics and head straight for the modern. Don't ignore the founders...

Madonna blows, in more ways than one. She should have quit when she was good.

Gwen Stefani...'nuff said.

EDIT:
Any song about "b****es an' hos" is not music

[f1rst children]

#1--totally opinion

RE: #1. If I concede that it is opinion, can you explain how that's any different from every other post in the thread? "Rap sucks" doesn't exactly smack of objectivity either, right?

Also:

- "World Music" is the most useless categorization of anything ever. It tells me virtually nothing about the music in the genre, which includes everything from Ravi Shenkar to Buena Vista Social Club to Yo-Yo Ma to Ozomatli. They may as well call it "Non-Anglo Music That's not Opera."

[Akuhei]

Green Day has the amazing power to suck and blow at the same time.

Nobody actually thinks Green Day is a good band, I fail to see the blasphemy.

[ant]

If you heard one Rage Against the Machine song you heard them all. Liquid Swords is the best Rap album of all time from a solo rapper, Tupac is way overrated, and Cake is way too underrated.

[Lupin the 3rd]

HIM music is all the same and just because you have a pentagram with a heart in it, dosn't make you cool.

[kyubichan]

I liked Green Day's early singles (When You Come Around and Basketcase). I agree that they did rip off Wonderwall in Boulevard of Broken Dreams. I actually thought it was Wonderwall when I heard the intro on the radio.

As for Linkin Park, I like their first album. It's because at the time, the metal bands playing on MTV were either old and recycled (Metallica) or painful to the brain (Limp Bizkit), thus LP drew me in. Fort Minor sucks more.

[Pachinko]

*Mariah is not the best selling female artist & she needs to stop pretending.
Oh, and she needs to wear better looking clothes.
And more clothes.
And clothes, period. Point. Blank.

*relief*

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

*Mariah is not the best selling female artist & she needs to stop pretending.
Oh, and she needs to wear better looking clothes.
And more clothes.
And clothes, period. Point. Blank.

*relief*

...not blasphemy, but a good point.

EDIT:
Blasphemy:
Limp Bizkit. Do I really have to explain?

[MeAndroo]

As for Linkin Park, I like their first album. It's because at the time, the metal bands playing on MTV were either old and recycled (Metallica) or painful to the brain (Limp Bizkit), thus LP drew me in. Fort Minor sucks more.

Comparing Fort Minor to Linkin Park is like comparing the song Meth did with Limp Biskit to the rest of Wu-Tang's work. It means nothing.

I for one applaud Mike Shinoda for his track "Kenji," which details the treatment of Japanese-Americans during WWII. The rest of the album...well...not even Styles of Beyond (who have fallen off), Common, and Black Thought could rescue it from the depths of mediocracy.

[swankygoose]

Nobody actually thinks Green Day is a good band, I fail to see the blasphemy.


Oh of course, because all the cd's they've sold doesn't really mean anything.

[soundchazer]

Oh of course, because all the cd's they've sold doesn't really mean anything.

OK... if you are going to use that parameter only, then Britney Spears is a music muse, filled with talent, since she outsells Green Day.

[Two-twenty]

Nobody actually thinks Green Day is a good band, I fail to see the blasphemy.
Does this mean it's blasphemy for me to say they are a good band? I'd rather them do what they're doing now then pitter out into non-existence. I'm glad they're popular with all the kids nowadays. Maybe, just maybe, if they like Green Day's current stuff they'll go back to their earlier albums and discover early nineties music. Then maybe, just maybe, they'll then start scoping out other great bands from days past.

Green Day is like weed. It's sort of a gateway band (ironic considering the origin's of the name 'Green Day').

[swankygoose]

OK... if you are going to use that parameter only, then Britney Spears is a music muse, filled with talent, since she outsells Green Day.

So.. are you trying to tell me that no one likes Britney Spear's music and that the reason she sells so many cd's is just an unexplainable phenomenon. Cause what I was trying to point out was that I don't like Greenday at all but alot of people do which is why they sell so many cd's, and thus why my opinion would seem blasphemous.

[kyubichan]

Comparing Fort Minor to Linkin Park is like comparing the song Meth did with Limp Biskit to the rest of Wu-Tang's work. It means nothing.


I wasn't really comparing Fort Minor to Linkin Park, but if I was asked who I would not listen to, my answer would be Fort Minor.

[Emeraldas]

- I hate Prince. I can't stand any of his music and I certainly don't find him attractive in any way at all. So I really don't see why a good number of people like him.

- Country music is completely gawdawful shyte. Croony, puerile songs about how your wife left you for a sheep and how your only friend is your pick-up truck are not something worthwhile listening to.


My solmait :heartrain

More blasphemy?
Peaches is fizucking awesome.
Ani DiFranco's last four albums were the worst of her entire career.

[Mana]

Does this mean it's blasphemy for me to say they are a good band? I'd rather them do what they're doing now then pitter out into non-existence. I'm glad they're popular with all the kids nowadays. Maybe, just maybe, if they like Green Day's current stuff they'll go back to their earlier albums and discover early nineties music. Then maybe, just maybe, they'll then start scoping out other great bands from days past.

Green Day is like weed. It's sort of a gateway band (ironic considering the origin's of the name 'Green Day').

If my younger sister is any sort of indication, your hopes may be in vain. She "<3s" Green Day with a passion, especially with their "hawt" guys. Oh, don't get me wrong, she's a real punk girl, with her non-stop habit of wearing hoodies and baggy jeans (when not in school uniform, that is) and lots of eye make-up. She just barely listens to anything they've done before American Idiot (which I believe is the only album of theirs that she owns), and refuses to touch just about all "old" music (which basically means most music made before 2000), with the exception of movie soundtracks, especially ones from the 80s.

[Akuhei]

Yeah I agree with what Mana said, most kids are not very eclectic. They'll find a band that they like and obsess over it for a while, and then they'll move on to the next big thing. Rarely will they actually look into the past to find music, because they want to keep up with the times, or something to that extent. Now excuse me but I have to go put on black nailpolish, eye makeup, and pretend that I know how to play the guitar.

[Jedinator]

Agreed w/ passion beyond knowledge.

They call this a "band"? I'm sorry, but that lead singer sounds awful. His strange mix of yodeling and shouting irritates the heck out of me. They have all of the little emo-kids eating out of their hands...

Not this emo kid.

Old greenday stuff is good and the new I hate. But thats my opinion.

[f1rst children]

If my younger sister is any sort of indication, your hopes may be in vain. She "<3s" Green Day with a passion, especially with their "hawt" guys. Oh, don't get me wrong, she's a real punk girl, with her non-stop habit of wearing hoodies and baggy jeans (when not in school uniform, that is) and lots of eye make-up. She just barely listens to anything they've done before American Idiot (which I believe is the only album of theirs that she owns), and refuses to touch just about all "old" music (which basically means most music made before 2000), with the exception of movie soundtracks, especially ones from the 80s.

I don't see anything in that description that could be remotely classified as "punk." Hoodies, baggy jeans, use of the word "hawt", and love of 80s soundtracks? Green Day hasn't been punk since before Dookie was released.

Anyways, per the Britney Spears question, the answer for that blasphemy is this one:

- (Pre)Teens are the worst consumers of music and as a consumer demographic are responsible for 95% of all bad music. Of all the trash music you hear, you can bet that 95% of it was targeted to the (pre)teenagers of that time period. For oldies, the terribleness of the music is obscured by the fog of nostalgia. The world would be a better place if people between the ages of 12-18 were not allowed to call radio stations or TV stations, not allowed to purchase CDs, and were required to wear ear plugs at all times outside of school and communicate in sign language. Once a person leaves high school and enters college his/her taste in music generally improves, sometimes inversely to his/her personal hygiene.

[Mana]

I don't see anything in that description that could be remotely classified as "punk." Hoodies, baggy jeans, use of the word "hawt", and love of 80s soundtracks? Green Day hasn't been punk since before Dookie was released.

Sarcasm, dear.

[LadySage]

Sarcasm, dear.

What? Sarcasm on the internet? Now THAT's blasphemy!

[Mana]

What? Sarcasm on the internet? Now THAT's blasphemy!
About time some showed up in the thread. I was getting tired of plain, old opinions.

[aeroshadow]

Human voices fail. Classical ftw!

[AioshiNYI88]

Human voices fail. Classical ftw!

Not that I have anything against the genre but No...just No.

[Pachinko]

Not that I have anything against the genre but No...just No.

Whaa? Classical makes the brain cells happy...
Or so they say.

[PleaseDrinkMilk]

Country music really isn't that bad. Or, rather, it's only as bad as standard pop music: repetitive, inane, and uninspired. No better, no worse. True that. Most people discount country with the same old tired joke...but there are distinctly interesting albums/bands/whathaveyou that are country or derive from country. (Disclaimer: I'm talking out of my butt.)

Actually, I generally find country to be a bit more interesting than most pop music, but I also don't particularly care for the hip-hop influence widespread in pop today.

[Locke]

Actually, I generally find country to be a bit more interesting than most pop music, but I also don't particularly care for the hip-hop influence widespread in pop today.


The hip hop influence in pop music is only because hip hop sells, if classical music was the big seller Brittany Spears would be remixing Bach.

[General Suburbia]

If classical music was the big seller Brittany Spears as an icon would not exist.

Blasphemy: Too many people prefer underground music for the sake of prefering underground. Hate to break it to you guys, but their music on average is just...average. Liking obscure bands doesn't give you the authority to blatantly judge everyone else's music and label it as something dumb or insufficient.

[Major Tom]

Perhaps if classical music was marketed correctly.....

Classical music seems to have gotten a reputation for being soft and slow, which is bollocks much of the time. I've also noticed that on every classical CD I have listened to, the recording level is markedly lower than more contemporary discs which, again, is utter bollocks. Listening to a soft version of Liszts Hungarian Rhapsody no.2 (which probably has a good possibility of breaking those plastic things called keyboards) is an utter travesty!

[kyubichan]

Blasphemy: Any random, untalented person can do rap/hiphop whenever he wanted to. It's blasphemous coz the tweens around here walk the streets "rapping" (?) , in Japanese, Filipino and English. They'd kill me if I said out loud that they can't rhyme if their life depended on it.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

Blasphemy: Any random, untalented person can do rap/hiphop whenever he wanted to.

I gotta "halfway" agree with you here. I mean, personally I could care less for rap/hiphop(for the most part), but there are some talented rappers/rhymers out there. My friend actually is very good at rapping and rhyming, and I also knew someone who was very bad at it(yet he still got a lot of recognition).

[Pachinko]

I gotta "halfway" agree with you here. I mean, personally I could care less for rap/hiphop(for the most part), but there are some talented rappers/rhymers out there. My friend actually is very good at rapping and rhyming, and I also knew someone who was very bad at it(yet he still got a lot of recognition).

Rap is a tricky style of music. It takes a lot of talent to make it worth while. I don't enjoy all of this "G-Unit, yo mama-slut" stuff, but I have to give it out to people like Missy Elliott. She continues to create clever music, with even clever(er) videos to match. :love: Missy.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

I don't enjoy all of this "G-Unit, yo mama-slut" stuff

Yeah, the whole "G-Unit" s*** is a total fad, theres no talent in that. You wanna be part of G-Unit? All you gotta do is make a crappy song with a continuous beat and crappy rhymes about sluts, ho's, big t**ties and big @$$es.

[MeAndroo]

Yeah, the whole "G-Unit" s*** is a total fad, theres no talent in that. You wanna be part of G-Unit? All you gotta do is make a crappy song with a continuous beat and crappy rhymes about sluts, ho's, big t**ties and big @$$es.

The way I see it, the only redeeming quality in most of mainstream hip hop is that producers are focusing on the party jam more than ever. While the constant churning out of thumping rhythms is often victim to a lack of quality rhymes to accompany it, the party jam has its place in hip hop. So many "underground" artists have forsaken the crowd-moving tendencies of hip hops pioneers for depressing beats and excessively complex lyrics. It's nice to see the idea of the party song back in full force, even if a vast majority of the songs that fall in this category are just terrible.

As long as we're talking about rhyming ability and whether or not rapping is a difficult activity, it's important to remember that as much as any other genre of music, innovation is the key to longevity. Those who can't "flip their style," either in production or in lyrical style and content, are destined to be short-lived, and often remembered with only passing affection.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

it's important to remember that as much as any other genre of music, innovation is the key to longevity. Those who can't "flip their style," either in production or in lyrical style and content, are destined to be short-lived, and often remembered with only passing affection.

Ummm, to me, most rap/hiphop sounds almost exactly the same. Innovation in this category would mean NOT talking about ho's and sluts and "bangin' it" all the time.

[Erigion]

Ummm, to me, most rap/hiphop sounds almost exactly the same. Innovation in this category would mean NOT talking about ho's and sluts and "bangin' it" all the time.
Perhaps you want to reread his statement because he doesn't say that rapping about, as you so eloquently put it, "ho's and sluts and "bangin' it" all the time," is innovative.

And just because it all sounds the same to you doesn't mean it is the same.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

Perhaps you want to reread his statement because he doesn't say that rapping about, as you so eloquently put it, "ho's and sluts and "bangin' it" all the time," is innovative.

And I didnt say that either, I was meerley saying that to be innovative to me would mean that a rapper would have to NOT rap about those things.

[MeAndroo]

And I didnt say that either, I was meerley saying that to be innovative to me would mean that a rapper would have to NOT rap about those things.

Those who can't "flip their style," either in production or in lyrical style and content, are destined to be short-lived, and often remembered with only passing affection.

I think that explains the disagreement between Rukia and Erigion.

While I understand the mindeset behind people attacking some of the attitudes in hip hop, it's more often born out of ignorance , often purposely self-inflicted (i.e. I hate rap so I won't listen to it), than it is out of any real experience. The number of artists who not only don't relate such material in their rhymes but actually speak out against it is not insignificant by any means.

[RuKiAsShAdOw]

While I understand the mindeset behind people attacking some of the attitudes in hip hop, it's more often born out of ignorance , often purposely self-inflicted (i.e. I hate rap so I won't listen to it), than it is out of any real experience.

Not in my case. I have listened, and still do listen, to rap/hip hop, as well as other genres, and the conclusion ive drawn is that most hip hop is all about.....what? oh yeah, girls girls girls, "hittin it" and "bangin it." Real, and i mean REAL, rap is good. People who just try to copy 2Pac, DMX, Snoop and the like are just crap, much in the way Fort Minor is crap cuz theyre baisically a copy of Linkin Park. So saying im "ignorant" in the rap and hip hop field is just ignorance on your part.

[Pachinko]

Hip hop has a chance to become amazing. However, it's totally degrading people with the fact that most songs center around drugs, sex, and violence. And we allow children to listen to this? It's just a cycle of never-ending destruction... Occassionally, a hit impresses me, but if such a cycle continues, that might end fairly early.

Again, :love: 's Missy.

[MeAndroo]

Not in my case. I have listened, and still do listen, to rap/hip hop, as well as other genres, and the conclusion ive drawn is that most hip hop is all about.....what? oh yeah, girls girls girls, "hittin it" and "bangin it." Real, and i mean REAL, rap is good. People who just try to copy 2Pac, DMX, Snoop and the like are just crap, much in the way Fort Minor is crap cuz theyre baisically a copy of Linkin Park. So saying im "ignorant" in the rap and hip hop field is just ignorance on your part.

They don't use guitar riffs or have a screaming/wailing singer. Fort Minor is run by Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park. Can you be a copy of yourself? That's like saying Busta Rhymes is a copy of Leaders of the New School or Pharoah Monche is a copy of Organized Konfusion. Do you think artists like Jay-Z, Black Thought, or Common are copies of Linkin Park? They all appear on the album. I'm not defending Fort Minor's work, because Shinoda just isn't that good, but they aren't even in the same genre as Linkin Park.

If you think "most" hip hop artists just copy Snoop, 2pac and DMX (all of whom I personally find rather pedestrian, and Snoop's best work since his debut album was Doggy Fizzle), then you ARE missing out on the good in hip hop. I'm not saying those really mainstream artists don't sing about the stuff you're talking about, but there's plenty of what I call mainstream underground artists (don't receive the airplay but are still widely popular) that don't talk about it, and even condemn it. I'm talking about number of artists, and I think you're talking about level of mass media exposure.

[Pachinko]

Anyone else witness Paris Hilton's video for "Stars Are Blind"?
I swear, that's the closest thing to porn in a video since "Erotica"...

[silan]

Time for more Opinion Blasphemy!

No offense, Pachinko, but I hate Madonna, and any and all songs she sang, wrote, produced, sneezed on, etc.

Whew. That felt good.

[Sae]

Anyone else witness Paris Hilton's video for "Stars Are Blind"?
I swear, that's the closest thing to porn in a video since "Erotica"...

She's just proving the stereotype of her as a slut! i felt sorry for her AT FIRST cuz her bf sold that sex tape but still! she is so damn whorish!!!:mad:

Sae

[animanic_critic]

URGH, Madonna... such a despicable image(s) for a beautiful name!

Just look at ALL the things she's done:

FREAKY "Erotica" video...ewww
Jewish profanity in "Die Another Day" video for a James Bond movie
Original creator to "Like A Virgin" video (which American Idol's Keith butchured during the auditions... THANKFULLY!)
Indulging herself on bed on "Take A Bow" video

...and the list just goes on and on...Luckily, her music's not all bad...(as hard as I could admit)

[Pachinko]

Time for more Opinion Blasphemy!

No offense, Pachinko, but I hate Madonna, and any and all songs she sang, wrote, produced, sneezed on, etc.

Whew. That felt good.

No offense taken. I didn't expect many on AA to like Madonna; don't know why, but I'm used to it. =D It's just sad knowing people dislike the Queen! *bah, jk*

Just look at ALL the things she's done:
FREAKY "Erotica" video...ewww
Jewish profanity in "Die Another Day" video for a James Bond movie
Original creator to "Like A Virgin" video (which American Idol's Keith butchured during the auditions... THANKFULLY!)
Indulging herself on bed on "Take A Bow" video

...and the list just goes on and on...Luckily, her music's not all bad...(as hard as I could admit)

Funny, you listed possibly every reason why I love her. :hugyou:
Can't forget the nude hitchhiking;
The kissing-random-women-in-public;
The "Justify My Love" video, in general;
The 'Like A Prayer' period;
Recently, her hanging on a disco-ish cross. <3

Yeah, good times. :schazer:

[animanic_critic]

Oh, I can't take this sh*t anymore...!!!

The new video "Buttons" by the P---ycat Dolls is as enjoyable as a lap dance; which is no compliment. The high pitch voices and suggestably-lewd dancing makes me wonder whether they're in it for the singing or merely for the image. And to think they were originally planned to make dolls of themselves... that idea was scrapped, luckily...

[Pachinko]

Oh, I can't take this sh*t anymore...!!!

The new video "Buttons" by the P---ycat Dolls is as enjoyable as a lap dance; which is no compliment. The high pitch voices and suggestably-lewd dancing makes me wonder whether they're in it for the singing or merely for the image. And to think they were originally planned to make dolls of themselves... that idea was scrapped, luckily...

I sadly <3 that song. And I <3 the Pussycat Dolls.

Though it angers me that only one is given spotlight... :moron: