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MetalAlchemist
12-21-2005, 06:39 PM
What is the best thing about Full Metal Alchemist in your opinion. I love it so much its my favorite anime its my favorite anything. I wonder if its a card game? Anyone know?
:crono:

Javer
12-21-2005, 06:50 PM
Gawd, no. I dread the day that the Elrics become a CCG.

EDIT: It was a great anime, but I thought they were being a little ambitious with the whole "mortal sins = Homunculi" thing going on.

ant
12-21-2005, 06:52 PM
What was interesting IMO are the overall and underlying themes, brother's bond which I can relate to, science and religon, the meaning of humanity......

Kaikyaku
12-21-2005, 06:55 PM
I think my favourite thing about FMA is how everything connects together. I thought the events of the first 10 episodes were totally useless, and the series was pretty standard, but then it turned into something more and those events were crucial. I love it when things connect together. I haven't seen it all yet though, so I'm hoping there is more goodness to come.

I've stalled this series and I really need to get back to it. I was watching at the beginning of the semester with a friend, but then we both got really busy and haven't watched any in ages. I'm up to about episode 38, so I really have to finish it before the movie is released. I really want to find out what happens next!

Another of my favourite things about FMA is Alphose. He is one of my favourite anime characters. I know it's been said before, but I love how he's the most "human" of them all.

aeroshadow
12-21-2005, 06:55 PM
Although there are like tons of people who are like telling me over and over again how good it is, I honestly didn't really give it a chance (as of yet).

I watched the first two episodes and I was already bored out of my mind. I hear it gets deeper and such later, but even shallow anime like One Piece had me hooked fairly quickly...

I know this is based practically no knowledge of the show whatsoever, but from the little I've seen, I found the characters to be plastic and dry, the background and setting uninteresting, and the action rather unimpressive.

Yeah, I know. I need to give this another chance. But as of now, I'm way too lazy...

Sorrow-kun
12-21-2005, 07:47 PM
Gawd, no. I dread the day that the Elrics become a CCG.HAHA, too late! I don't know what the exact details are, but I've seen FMA cards sold at my local EB.
I watched the first two episodes and I was already bored out of my mind.You should bother watching the third episode, then.

DarkKanti
12-21-2005, 08:27 PM
Before Tremolo gets to it...

There's no such anime as Full Metal Alchemist. There's one called Fullmetal Alchemist and Full Metal Panic, but no Full Metal Alchemist. :D

Anyways, I'd say the best part of FMA is the characters.

Javer
12-21-2005, 08:38 PM
HAHA, too late! I don't know what the exact details are, but I've seen FMA cards sold at my local EB.

Fine. I rue the day the Elrics became a CCG.

Sorrow-kun
12-21-2005, 09:18 PM
There's no such anime as Full Metal Alchemist. There's one called Fellmetal Alchemist and Full Metal Panic, but no Full Metal Alchemist.FAIL!

DarkKanti
12-21-2005, 09:24 PM
FAIL!
:XD:

Syner
12-21-2005, 10:10 PM
I got a free pack of the FMA CCG....I have no clue how to play cause the magizine I got the deck in came with no rule set at all lol. i'm up to episode 42 - 43 and its getting pretty good towards the end...finding out about scars past and all

isolatedotaku
12-21-2005, 10:16 PM
Why do I like Fullmetal Alchemist?

The fact everthing comes together perfectly in the end is what got me (well, not Perfectly Perfectly, but better than most anime of this genre).

The characters. I found some of the character designs pretty original (The Elric Brother's Teacher, Lust, and Edward).

The fighting. Edward and Al's sparring are some of the best fights I have ever seen in an anime title. When Alchemy is put into the mix everything just gets that much better.

FMA is probably my favorite anime of '05

DarkKanti
12-21-2005, 10:21 PM
Why do I like Fullmetal Alchemist?

The fact everthing comes together perfectly in the end is what got me (well, not Perfectly Perfectly, but better than most anime of this genre).

The characters. I found some of the character designs pretty original (The Elric Brother's Teacher, Lust, and Edward).

The fighting. Edward and Al's sparring are some of the best fights I have ever seen in an anime title. When Alchemy is put into the mix everything just gets that much better.

FMA is probably my favorite anime of '05


A few things... I have to agree about the ending. It's one of my favorites I've ever seen. I already mentioned it, but I'll do so again: I absolutely love the characters in this anime, so I agree with you there as well. The fighting, while I find not to be the high point of the series, is original and entertaining. One thing though... FMA is an '03 anime. :D

Lupin the 3rd
12-21-2005, 10:24 PM
I love the twists and toward the end of the series.

isolatedotaku
12-21-2005, 10:29 PM
A few things... I have to agree about the ending. It's one of my favorites I've ever seen. I already mentioned it, but I'll do so again: I absolutely love the characters in this anime, so I agree with you there as well. The fighting, while I find not to be the high point of the series, is original and entertaining. One thing though... FMA is an '03 anime. :D

I guess you are right, but take that up with AnimeInsider Magazine before you do me (FMA got Best Anime Series of '05 this year). Also, it is still airing on [as] and hasn't finished yet. I find that as an American '05 ranking.

To please DarkKanti; FMA is probably my favorite anime of '05 and '03

punkusa20_2001
12-21-2005, 10:30 PM
the ending was one of very few i could not see coming.

Mouse
12-21-2005, 10:30 PM
What is the best thing about Full Metal Alchemist in your opinion.
Roy Mustang.

isolatedotaku
12-21-2005, 10:31 PM
And for those of us that haven't seen it yet I hope that anyone thinking of talking about it would PLEASE (With super ammounts of sugar and pocky on top) use spoiler tags...

ant
12-22-2005, 01:37 AM
did anyone notice how Tucker in his chimera form is from Dante's Inferno, not the character from the series but the poet.

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 02:08 AM
Before Tremolo gets to it...

There's no such anime as Full Metal Alchemist. There's one called Fullmetal Alchemist and Full Metal Panic, but no Full Metal Alchemist. :D

:XD: That made me grin like an idiot! And of course, it's so true. None of this "Full Metal" nonsense, guyz.

Great series. Masterpiece. But then you all already knew I thought that, anyway.

And for those of us that haven't seen it yet I hope that anyone thinking of talking about it would PLEASE (With super ammounts of sugar and pocky on top) use spoiler tags...

I have no sympathy for you Adult Swim people. Anyone who was anyone saw it fansubbed anyway! You all blow, except LS. And as for that dub, what a piece of shit. I sympathise with anyone who's seen the whole series with those bollocks voice.

[/IRONY AND SARCASM IN CASE YOU COULDN'T TELL]

Kaikyaku
12-22-2005, 02:32 AM
Whoa, wait. What about us poor people who are watching it fansubbed, just a year too late? I absolutely must know if the founder of the Fullmetal Alchemist Obsession Club thinks that I, too, blow. XD

EDIT:

Response: Yay!

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 02:41 AM
Whoa, wait. What about us poor people who are watching it fansubbed, just a year too late? I absolutely must know if the founder of the Fullmetal Alchemist Obsession Club thinks that I, too, blow. XD

I, Tremolo, undisputed authority on all that is FMA and person who is right about everything ever regardless, decree that you in fact do not blow! You're watching it with far superior voice acting, the sensible option!

Yeah, I'm in a silly mood this morning :D

Ghostmaster
12-22-2005, 07:12 AM
I've watched a few of the episodes on adult swim, but never really got into it. Plus it's a long show. I'll probably end up watching sometime. The parts I sw though were actually pretty good. The action is good and the story seems to flow pretty smoothly.

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 08:19 AM
I've watched a few of the episodes on adult swim, but never really got into it. Plus it's a long show. I'll probably end up watching sometime. The parts I sw though were actually pretty good. The action is good and the story seems to flow pretty smoothly.

It's not an EPIC long show. It's only like 52 episodes.

DarkKanti
12-22-2005, 08:32 AM
And as for that dub, what a piece of shit. I sympathise with anyone who's seen the whole series with those bollocks voice.

[/IRONY AND SARCASM IN CASE YOU COULDN'T TELL]

I thought the dub was decent, but in all honesty, Ed's original voice was so expertly done that it blows the dubs out of the water completely. That's just me though...

Sorrow-kun
12-22-2005, 08:37 AM
It's not an EPIC long show. It's only like 52 episodes.I abhor almost anything that goes above 52 episodes. With the exception of Hikaru no Go, I've yet to see anything that requires more than 52 episodes to tell its story. Even HnG has a number of filler episodes that could have been cut.

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 08:37 AM
I thought the dub was decent, but in all honesty, Ed's original voice was so expertly done that it blows the dubs out of the water completely. That's just me though...

My thoughts exactly. I honestly think Dub!Ed is pretty un-defendable. God knows people have tried, but simply the guy sounds far too old (he just DOES sound 40 years old and that's all there is to it), and far too stilted. And yes, Al's played by a kid, but he's just so wooden it makes no difference, and the script in general is clunky and generally poor. By miscasting its leads, it's far harder to appreciate the generally good work by some of the other cast. It just creates a general aura of "piece of shit".

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 08:46 AM
My thoughts exactly. I honestly think Dub!Ed is pretty un-defendable. God knows people have tried, but simply the guy sounds far too old (he just DOES sound 40 years old and that's all there is to it), and far too stilted. And yes, Al's played by a kid, but he's just so wooden it makes no difference, and the script in general is clunky and generally poor. By miscasting its leads, it's far harder to appreciate the generally good work by some of the other cast. It just creates a general aura of "piece of shit".

From what I saw of the sub, Ed sounds like a woman. I hate it when women try and play grown men. IE Kurama in YYH, Goku in DBZ, Kenshin in his show, come on. GET A MAN to play it. It makes it look like the character's balls haven't dropped.

ant
12-22-2005, 09:08 AM
It's not an EPIC long show. It's only like 52 episodes.

It is really 51 episodes but if you count the movie (which I wouldn't) it would be 52.

DarkKanti
12-22-2005, 09:12 AM
From what I saw of the sub, Ed sounds like a woman. I hate it when women try and play grown men. IE Kurama in YYH, Goku in DBZ, Kenshin in his show, come on. GET A MAN to play it. It makes it look like the character's balls haven't dropped.

Since when has Ed been a grown man? Women are better suited to play the roles of children than men are, and Paku Romi did an excellent job with Ed's voice. He sounded male enough to me.

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 09:15 AM
From what I saw of the sub, Ed sounds like a woman. I hate it when women try and play grown men. IE Kurama in YYH, Goku in DBZ, Kenshin in his show, come on. GET A MAN to play it. It makes it look like the character's balls haven't dropped.

That's bullshit, to be honest. Yes, Ed was played by a woman, but by a woman with a naturally deep voice anyway who sounded perfectly male enough for the part of a boy in his early teenage years (and has played male characters in many other anime), and a woman who could ACTUALLY FRIGGING ACT.

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 09:20 AM
That's bullshit, to be honest. Yes, Ed was played by a woman, but by a woman with a naturally deep voice anyway who sounded perfectly male enough for the part of a boy in his early teenage years (and has played male characters in many other anime), and a woman who could ACTUALLY FRIGGING ACT.


Well, I only saw one little clip, my memory of the voice isn't that good, but I do remember it did not sound male to me.

But why do you say Vic Mignoga (sp?) can't act? Everyone in the dub can act. You just give all dubs a hard time don't you?

Since when has Ed been a grown man? Women are better suited to play the roles of children than men are, and Paku Romi did an excellent job with Ed's voice. He sounded male enough to me.

I was talking about other animes, not just Ed. Like Kenshin or Goku for example. They are grown men.

DarkKanti
12-22-2005, 09:24 AM
Vic can act, but it was bad casting to put him in the part of a 14 year old. He sounds way too old. The dub of FMA is fairly decent (Al's voice is the one I honestly can't stand though), but the original Japanese seiyuu is jus so much better in this case.

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 09:25 AM
Vic can act, but it was bad casting to put him in the part of a 14 year old. He sounds way too old. The dub of FMA is fairly decent (Al's voice is the one I honestly can't stand though), but the original Japanese seiyuu is jus so much better in this case.

Did you know that Al's dub VA is really a 12 year old boy? I love that kid, he's better than a shit load of voice actors...and he's 12. That's freaking awesome.

DarkKanti
12-22-2005, 09:26 AM
I don't care how old he is. His voice didn't match Al's character at all and he was basicalaly monotone throughout the entire dubbing.

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 09:28 AM
I don't care how old he is. His voice didn't match Al's character at all and he was basicalaly monotone throughout the entire dubbing.

Hmm, I don't know what anime you were watching. Dub VA's don't get enough respect that they deserve. Just because they don't MATCH 100% the original Japanese VAs doesn't mean they suck and can't act.

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 09:30 AM
Well, I only saw one little clip, my memory of the voice isn't that good, but I do remember it did not sound male to me.

But why do you say Vic Mignoga (sp?) can't act? Everyone in the dub can act. You just give all dubs a hard time don't you?

Maybe this Vic dude can act, I don't know, I don't follow dub actors. But I think he was absolutely the wrong choice for Ed, and I'll stand by that. Hell, I was even looking forward to the dub, but I was disappointed Funi messed up the two leads so much. Maybe it comes from bias from having seen the whole series in its original language, but the quality is so wildly different it's laughable, to be honest. Essentially, Paku Romi > Vic Mignogna and Rie Kugimiya > Aaron Dismuke - that's all there is to it. End of.

And no, I give bad dubs a hard time. The majority of dubs out there just aren't very good and I try to give them all a chance. There are quite a few dubs I like (GITS: SAC, most of the Ghibli's, bits of Fruits Basket, Wolf's Rain), but I still wouldn't sit down and watch a whole series dubbed. They're not good enough yet. Maybe someday, but not yet.

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 09:32 AM
And no, I give bad dubs a hard time. The majority of dubs out there just aren't very good and I try to give them all a chance. There are quite a few dubs I like (GITS: SAC, most of the Ghibli's, bits of Fruits Basket, Wolf's Rain), but I still wouldn't sit down and watch a whole series dubbed. They're not good enough yet. Maybe someday, but not yet.

Other than the old DBZ, none of FUNi's dubs are HORRIBLY bad. And if they have low points it's not because of VAs, it's because of meaningless changes (YYH).

However, if you think the FMA dub is bad.....don't for the love of god ever watch anything from ADV. Now those...are BAD.

DarkKanti
12-22-2005, 09:35 AM
Hmm, I don't know what anime you were watching. Dub VA's don't get enough respect that they deserve. Just because they don't MATCH 100% the original Japanese VAs doesn't mean they suck and can't act.

No, the fact that they don't match the original is not what hurts VA. The fact that this particular one couldn't act his way out of a paper bag does though. Look, in these stupid dubs vs subs arguement, I'm usually the first one to speak up and defend dubs, but god damn if Al's voice didn't make my ears bleed. Hell, I didn't think Vic was all that bad as Ed. As I said before, the Japanese seiyuu was just so much better in the place of Ed than he was though.

Tremolo
12-22-2005, 09:36 AM
Other than the old DBZ, none of FUNi's dubs are HORRIBLY bad. And if they have low points it's not because of VAs, it's because of meaningless changes (YYH).

However, if you think the FMA dub is bad.....don't for the love of god ever watch anything from ADV. Now those...are BAD.

I think it was partly because they managed to pull of Fruits Basket pretty well that I was optimistic. I mean, I've heard worse: the secondary characters aren't so bad (except maybe Envy who sounds like an old woman) but I can't get past the leads, not matter how hard I try. I haven't heard Yu Yu Hakusho's but I'll take your word for it.

As for ADV, I hated their Evangelion and RahXephon dubs and that's about all I've heard by 'em. I do hear that the Full Metal Panic dubs are good, but yeah.

And woah, off topic we go :XD:

* Tremolo shunts back

'Dat FMA shizz is good, innit?

Cornwiggle
12-22-2005, 09:39 AM
No, the fact that they don't match the original is not what hurts VA. The fact that this particular one couldn't act his way out of a paper bag does though. Look, in these stupid dubs vs subs arguement, I'm usually the first one to speak up and defend dubs, but god damn if Al's voice didn't make my ears bleed. Hell, I didn't think Vic was all that bad as Ed. As I said before, the Japanese seiyuu was just so much better in the place of Ed than he was though.

It just must be a difference of opinion then. Since I never had a problem with Al's dub voice, in fact I really liked it. Can't change anyone's opinions, so there's no point in continuing to talk about it.

I mean, I've heard worse: the secondary characters aren't so bad (except maybe Envy who sounds like an old woman) but I can't get past the leads, not matter how hard I try.

That I can agree with you on. Why did they make Envy sound like an old woman? I had to ask someone when it first started "Is Envy a male? I thought he was...but that voice"

All the other Homunculi have very appropriate and great voices though.

C0MPL3X
12-22-2005, 11:41 AM
Music, animation, voice acting. The drama. And interesting concepts such as putting a value on human, what is it to be human, possibilities and limitations of human, etc. Although not too detailed, but played out in an engaging fashion. Fabulous show. Some minor things that bugged me include distorted animation trying to be funny and tiny bits of shounen feel.

animerules15421
01-05-2006, 03:56 PM
with all due respect metal alchemist its: "human kind canot gain enything without giveing something in return to obatain something of eqwal value must be lost that is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange."

isolatedotaku
01-05-2006, 04:24 PM
Do you mean "Human Kind cannot gain anything without giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. This is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange." ?

Your statement seemed a little rude, so I clean it up.

animerules15421
01-06-2006, 06:50 PM
no that is how it goes all i was doing was corecting him but i will

isolatedotaku
01-06-2006, 06:53 PM
with all due respect metal alchemist its: "human kind canot gain enything without giveing something in return to obatain something of eqwal value must be lost that is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange."
*Note to those that never got to this before 6:50 today, "with all due respect" is new.
Do you mean "Human Kind cannot gain anything without giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. This is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange." ?

Your statement seemed a little rude, so I clean it up.

Compare.

I did the same thing to you that you did to Metal Alchemist. I corrected you.

animerules15421
01-06-2006, 07:43 PM
actualy where both wrong its: "human kind canot gain enything without first giveing something in return to obtain something of eqwal value must be lost that is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange" I relise that we forgot that its "without first" we forgot first

isolatedotaku
01-06-2006, 07:46 PM
Then my reply would only change to:

"Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange." I would even add "Back in those days, we believed that to be the one and only truth" (or something along those lines).

animerules15421
01-06-2006, 07:48 PM
That would work if you want to qwote Al and not the Law.

isolatedotaku
01-06-2006, 07:52 PM
The law is almost the same as the laws for the conservation of mass...really the same. Go study Chemistry.

We are both quoting Alphonse. Quoting the law would simply be "To obtain, something of equal value must be lost."

animerules15421
01-06-2006, 07:57 PM
Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost.

that is the law its self without use of it as a qwote

isolatedotaku
01-06-2006, 08:05 PM
I beg to differ. Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return is more of a statement. You can't get that 99c Double Cheese Burger without giving a mumbling clerk 99c.

"To Obtain, something of equal value must be lost" sounds more like a law, such as *Gets out Chem. Binder "Law of Conservation of Mass in any physical change or chemical reaction, mass is conserved; mass can be neither created nor destroyed." Or "Law of Conservation of Energy in any chemical or physical process, energy is neiter created nor destroyed."

animerules15421
01-07-2006, 07:24 AM
We are talking about the anime hear on the show its the law so it dosent matter wwwwhat you think it resembles in real life

[-=[montney]=-]
01-07-2006, 08:38 AM
lol really but it does make sense, i mean you can buy a 89 cent candy bar without giving the clerk 89 cents, it dose go with the law

Tremolo
01-07-2006, 08:40 AM
The owner of the FMA club demands you both shut up, although isolatedotaku has the upper hand because he can spell better and isn't annoying.

Anyway, you're both basing it off the dub script as opposed to the literal Japanese translation. And the dub sucks and is far looser dialogue-wise (I know it has to be, but I don't care), so you're arguing over something pretty goddamn futile. :D

kLaUS
01-07-2006, 01:01 PM
well, even in the anime, close to the end,, they explain that the law is not really true, and it doesnt apply to a lot of stuff,, so is not real... so ,, all the things that they believe for aproximatly 50 eppisodes was garbage... ey,, but is a really great anime !


edit- Added a spoiler warning for you. Jeeze. ~Kei

isolatedotaku
01-07-2006, 08:36 PM
The owner of the FMA club demands you both shut up, although isolatedotaku has the upper hand because he can spell better and isn't annoying.

Anyway, you're both basing it off the dub script as opposed to the literal Japanese translation. And the dub sucks and is far looser dialogue-wise (I know it has to be, but I don't care), so you're arguing over something pretty goddamn futile. :D

No to step on your toes Tremolo, but I do not find the English dub futile. A writer had to work hard to translate the law so it would make sense, I have heard several English transalor/ Anime script writers talk about the difficulty of pulling something like this off.

If you would provide use with the location of a literal, or even un-translated copy of the First Alchemic Law it would be great.

As for the English First Alchemic Law, I stick by what I have said before. We recently studies ATOMOS - The New Atomic Model in chemisty, in which Alchemy was the focus of an entire day. Late Alchemist has lasting effects on the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy, which I find the English First Alchemic Law of FMA to resemble greatly.

EDIT//

=-]']lol really but it does make sense, i mean you can buy a 89 cent candy bar without giving the clerk 89 cents, it dose go with the law

I will try to make sense of this. I am assuming you are saying that you do not have to give the clerk exactly 89c? Even if you give the clerk more than 89c, I would hope you would be give back exact change. Vise versa, if you gave the clerk too little, I would hope the clerk yells at you and demands the rest. This would mean that you are always giving the same as you are recieving when changing something into something else (i.e Money into a Candy Bar)

C0MPL3X
01-08-2006, 10:16 AM
well, for those of you who wants to be really specific so we can end this bullshit,
the law they thought was true wasn´t true. The real law the anime reveals at the end is: The law stays true, except that energy is required to allow this change in form of the same mass. This energy comes from the the process in which a human´s life is lost in the other world behind THE DOOR

edit: and for those of you who hasnt seen this anime yet, its not all about this so go and watch it.

Tremolo
01-08-2006, 10:27 AM
No to step on your toes Tremolo, but I do not find the English dub futile. A writer had to work hard to translate the law so it would make sense, I have heard several English transalor/ Anime script writers talk about the difficulty of pulling something like this off.

Yeah, I said I know I know it has to be the way it is but I think the FMA dub script in particular is spectacularly lame and clunky, however much effort it takes or not. I'd rather have a more literal translation, personally.

Hell, I just don't like the dub period. But you all know that by now and I'm bored of ragging on it.

Anyway, taken from the subs off the DVD:

"Man cannot obtain anything without first sacrificing something. In order to obtain anything, something of equal value is required. That is alchemy's Law of Equivalent Exchange. At the time, we believed that to be the true way of the world." I love the DVD subs - they keep all the Japanese honorifics, original episode titles and everything!

Buy the DVD's, watch in Japanese. You won't be sorry.

* Tremolo is a happy fanboy

isolatedotaku
01-08-2006, 03:29 PM
Thank you, that lit. translation goes the same as the the English Law in terms of sounding like a real Law.

"In order to obtain something, something of equal value is required" definitly sounds a lot better. It fits to the theme of alchemy much better.

Demon_Killer
01-15-2006, 12:28 PM
What is the best thing about Full Metal Alchemist in your opinion. I love it so much its my favorite anime its my favorite anything. I wonder if its a card game? Anyone know?
:crono:

yes there is cards, but i think they better stop makeing them, their not so good. I mean i like the pictures and quotes but that is it.lol

animerules15421
01-27-2006, 11:09 AM
I respect that you are the head of the club but still You have no resoning to make us "shut up" we are haveing a debate. Also you are disrespectful, dishonorable and you just want to be on his side becase you like him.(no offence isolatedotaku)

Tremolo
01-27-2006, 11:12 AM
I respect that you are the head of the club but still You have no resoning to make us "shut up" we are haveing a debate. Also you are disrespectful, dishonorable and you just want to be on his side becase you like him.(no offence isolatedotaku)

Dude, it's all an act. Whatever.

He was right. You weren't. I was even more right because I provided a more accurate translation. The debate is long over, anyway. No one cares anymore.

animerules15421
01-27-2006, 11:16 AM
By the way I do not care.

Cornwiggle
01-27-2006, 11:53 AM
By the way I do not care.


All your posts before say otherwise.

Luna11
01-28-2006, 09:16 PM
Gawd, no. I dread the day that the Elrics become a CCG.

EDIT: It was a great anime, but I thought they were being a little ambitious with the whole "mortal sins = Homunculi" thing going on.

I love the characters,and how deep everything is.I actually like the seven sins thing.And they already have a card game for FMA.I cant find it anywhere but they do have it,sorry lol :acmaneat

L-sama
01-29-2006, 02:13 PM
The thing I love about Fullmetal Alchemist is the characters. They all have their motives, but the way they are presented makes each one seem justifiable. Although there can be debate that there are the good guys and bad guys of this series, the line between them can and is often times blurred. It's truly a wonderful series.

animerules15421
01-30-2006, 11:11 AM
Sorry what I ment was I dont care about her post about my oppion.

Tremolo
01-30-2006, 11:20 AM
Sorry what I ment was I dont care about her post about my oppion.

Female in avatar != actually female.

And I'm very sorry you don't care about my post. Obviously your posts and opinions are of a much higher quality than mine, especially from someone with the weighty aspirations to "one day" become owner of an Inuyasha Yahoo group. Clearly you are not a person to be messed with and I apologise for treading on your toes. Please continue to not care about facts in future.

Cornwiggle
01-30-2006, 11:51 AM
Female in avatar != actually female.




Tremelo is a guy, just in case you fail to notice the sarcasm, animeruelzzzsomg@!
:migrane:


:newbie:

Erigion
01-30-2006, 02:36 PM
Obviously, this conversation should be taken to PM if you people want to continue it.

L-sama
01-30-2006, 02:43 PM
Question to all: Any word on a potential release date for the Fullmetal Alchemist movie in the US? I know it was released recently in Japan, but one can still ask. So, any word?

Eek
01-30-2006, 03:51 PM
Question to all: Any word on a potential release date for the Fullmetal Alchemist movie in the US? I know it was released recently in Japan, but one can still ask. So, any word?
No licensing companies have announced their acquisition of Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror of Shambala let alone any plans for domestic distribution. But considering the vast popularity of Fullmetal Alchemist, I'm sure that FUNimation will pick it up in the next several months and have it on R1 DVD before the end of Summer 2006.

Shadowmage
01-30-2006, 04:00 PM
No licensing companies have announced their acquisition of Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror of Shambala let alone any plans for domestic distribution. But considering the vast popularity of Fullmetal Alchemist, I'm sure that FUNimation will pick it up in the next several months and have it on R1 DVD before the end of Summer 2006.
If I recall correctly, Funimation has sent an internet website distributing legal Japanese DVDs to the Western audience a cease and desist letter for the Fullmetal Alchemist soundtracks (including that of the movie). If Funimation owns the soundtrack, they likely have the license to the movie as well.

Tremolo
01-30-2006, 05:29 PM
Regarding the movie, I'm pretty sure Funi will announce something soon. I reckon they probably got the the movie with the series as a whole package, because I don't see why it would be a separate licence. But then again, anime licensing is weird.

On that note, the movie isn't an amazing masterpiece or anything. It's got its good and bad moments and is an entertaining watch overall, but it's honestly nothing to salivate over if you haven't seen it yet - don't expect an anime holy grail or anything like that.

KiraraKim
01-30-2006, 07:09 PM
On some other related FMA News there is going to be a series of Fullmetal Alchemist OVAs, one being live action and featuring Ed as a grandfather. I kid you not. And don't we wonder what the creative minds at Bones are smoking?

Shadowmage
01-30-2006, 07:16 PM
And don't we wonder what the creative minds at Bones are smoking?
Simple, they're smoking money... like Suitengu.

Here is a link (http://community.livejournal.com/fm_alchemist/3804329.html) showing some pictures of the animated OVA. (Which I assume is comedic filler.)

KiraraKim
01-30-2006, 07:20 PM
Yeah and they are milking the franchise for all it's worth. Well at least the manga remains pure.

Though granted I will probably still watch the OVAs just because they are FMA.

ant
02-07-2006, 10:28 AM
Yeah and they are milking the franchise for all it's worth. Well at least the manga remains pure.

Though granted I will probably still watch the OVAs just because they are FMA.

I will watch them also hopefully I won't have to :hanged

RuKiAsShAdOw
02-07-2006, 04:18 PM
id say the best thing about FMA would have to be the way it all started to unfold in the last half of the series. things just came together and the fight scenes are pretty awsome in my opinion.

DarkKanti
02-07-2006, 05:34 PM
Simple, they're smoking money... like Suitengu.

Here is a link (http://community.livejournal.com/fm_alchemist/3804329.html) showing some pictures of the animated OVA. (Which I assume is comedic filler.)

At the very least the OVA is going to be entertaining. Hell, it looks downright hilarious. It's even got Greed in it. Greed's awesome.

DOC
02-07-2006, 05:38 PM
i just started getting in to it and so far i i seem to like the show

sakura_blossom
02-07-2006, 05:45 PM
Yeah and they are milking the franchise for all it's worth. Well at least the manga remains pure.

Though granted I will probably still watch the OVAs just because they are FMA.

No matter, as long as the company producing FMA can bring in money, that's all that really matters I'm sure in there eyes. And with FMA still being dubbed in the US, and the big hit on the movie, I'm sure the company is still bringing in lots of money from the franchise.

From what I saw of the pictures, it doesn't appeal to me yet. Seeing comedic screenshots just doesn't have the appeal for me to personally watch the OVA's, I'm just hoping that the series won't be over used.

Lupin the 3rd
02-07-2006, 07:11 PM
I can't wait to see the ova's, it looks hilarious.

LadyYuina
02-07-2006, 10:41 PM
What is the best thing about Full Metal Alchemist in your opinion. I love it so much its my favorite anime its my favorite anything. I wonder if its a card game? Anyone know?
:crono:

I don't have a favorite thing about it since I like everything there is on this anime. Except the bad guys. Isn't my avatar kawaii?

Shadowmage
02-08-2006, 04:09 PM
At the very least the OVA is going to be entertaining. Hell, it looks downright hilarious. It's even got Greed in it. Greed's awesome.
Undoubtedly.

There are times where I enjoy shutting down my brain and absorbing the comedy (or eye candy) an anime contains. This is probably why Full Metal Panic? Fumouffu will always have a special place in my heart.

RuKiAsShAdOw
02-10-2006, 02:50 PM
At the very least the OVA is going to be entertaining. Hell, it looks downright hilarious. It's even got Greed in it. Greed's awesome.

Yes, I am looking forward to that. And Greed-o is awsome...

kirarathekitty
02-10-2006, 06:53 PM
can you beleave the series is over as of tomarow night

Tremolo
02-11-2006, 02:37 AM
can you beleave the series is over as of tomarow night

Actually, it was over as of October 2004.

/fusty elitist mode

Whatever, I'll be intrigued by what you plebs watching on Adult Swim think of the ending (which is good, by the way, if a tad quick).

Anyway, here's to AS re-running it constantly for years and years to come! :twodrunks

Onizuka111
02-22-2006, 02:59 PM
one of the key topics in fullmetal alchemist is eternal life.

to what extent would someone go to achieve immortlity.

Cornwiggle
02-22-2006, 03:01 PM
one of the key topics in fullmetal alchemist is eternal life.

to what extent would someone go to achieve immortlity.


Uh....that's not what I got out of it...

MirMir
02-22-2006, 03:07 PM
I like Fullmetal Alchemist because of the characters. Ed is just so funny. Along with a few other characters.

Now I just recently started watching FMA, so I don't quite know everything that everyone on here seems to know. But from what I've seen so far, it's pretty interesting. I wonder how they come up with such great characters!!!

ant
02-22-2006, 05:51 PM
Uh....that's not what I got out of it...
Dante was trying to stay immortal hence why she wanted to create the philosopher stone

Cornwiggle
02-23-2006, 07:57 AM
Dante was trying to stay immortal hence why she wanted to create the philosopher stone

Yeah I know, but Dante isn't even in it until the 3/4 of the way through.

Joey
02-23-2006, 02:46 PM
I like Fullmetal Alchemist. I wonder though if Al has the real stone, why is it deteriating? Just wondering
The last episode I swa was the one where Lust,and sloth were destroyed.

EDIT: Added spoiler tags. ~Kei

Onizuka111
02-23-2006, 02:56 PM
prediction..................??

correct me if i am wrong, but there is 56 episodes of FMA.

if you had the chance to make 57+ episodes, will AL find his brother, and if so could he ever find a way back through the gate.

what do you think???

Kei
02-23-2006, 02:58 PM
There are 51 episodes, and the movie answers many of your questions.


~Kei

Trunks lover
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
I think that that is an awsome show and I have the game!! ;)

Onizuka111
02-23-2006, 03:58 PM
i havn't played the game yet, how is it?? do you like it??

Erigion
02-23-2006, 04:41 PM
i havn't played the game yet, how is it?? do you like it??
Search ftw: http://www.animeacademy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18425

ant
02-23-2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah I know, but Dante isn't even in it until the 3/4 of the way through.
I agree that it is not a key topic but it is there none the less.

Dtortot
02-23-2006, 08:01 PM
prediction..................??

correct me if i am wrong, but there is 56 episodes of FMA.

if you had the chance to make 57+ episodes, will AL find his brother, and if so could he ever find a way back through the gate.

what do you think???I would read themanga to get a definitive answer.

Kei
02-23-2006, 08:08 PM
I would read themanga to get a definitive answer.


Not really true. The anime and manga for FMA are so radically different, they're practically two different series. For the better, in my opinion. 99% of the time, Manga > Anime. But I honestly enjoyed the FMA anime far far more than the manga.


~Kei

Corpse
02-23-2006, 08:13 PM
what kei said...i often found the manga explained things FAR LESS, when it was even similar to the anime anyway.

animefreek_CM
02-23-2006, 08:14 PM
That was a pretty crazy twist though.
I never would have thought that the gate was a parallel dimension to our world. Never. I have one question though. What was our replacement for alchemy? Was it electricity?

Another pretty crazy thing I just noticed was the persecution of the Ishbal people was similar to that of the Jewish people.. surely that was intentional.

Flashback
02-27-2006, 01:43 AM
i think the anime is just really deep and thought provoking and at times its so deep it sends chills down my spin!

RuKiAsShAdOw
02-27-2006, 02:33 PM
about the "spoiler"(wasnt for me, seen the entire series) i do believe that it was intentional. so many things like that are similar to real world events that have taken place. so its no secret that it was probably put there for a reason.

Onizuka111
03-09-2006, 05:44 PM
i like fma because of the consept of having the power to transmute object into other objects

That was a pretty crazy twist though.
I never would have thought that the gate was a parallel dimension to our world. Never. I have one question though. What was our replacement for alchemy? Was it electricity?

Another pretty crazy thing I just noticed was the persecution of the Ishbal people was similar to that of the Jewish people.. surely that was intentional.


i thought our replacement for alchemy was aircrafts/ airplanes

technology and the ability to create aircrafts.

Slagar
03-10-2006, 05:53 PM
I really like the show except for the last couple eppisodes. It starts falling into plot holes and a load of "wtf".

But the movie makes up for it.

mistress #9
03-10-2006, 07:21 PM
i am finnnaly gonna watch this i just found out that ytv in canada is playing the series friday nights and there on the second eppy so i havent missed much i ll come and let you all know what i think later...

Mystic_Spike
03-12-2006, 06:21 AM
i was under the impression that the alternative for alchemy in our world was the advancement in technology (including electricity, jets, nuclear power etc etc...)

mistress #9
03-12-2006, 11:07 AM
okay finnally seen an eppy and it looks pretty intersting but i am not sure if that was the second eppy like my friend told me it would be it was a little confusing and i was a little lost but i caught on quick enough to figure out what was going on...this isn't my usual type anime but i think i am going to continue checking it out on friday nights...

punkusa20_2001
03-12-2006, 01:56 PM
do yourself a favor and dont watch the dubs.

mistress #9
03-12-2006, 03:44 PM
i am kind of poor right now so i either have to wait to watch and that would be a long long time their's a few other's i wanna get first...and i got to start saving up to go to a convention this year and spend spend spend...lol

so allthough usually i am all for subs instead of dubs...except eva of course...i am gonna have to watch the dubs then eventually i will get the subs but thanks for the warning...one of my friends already gave me a talking to bout this lol: :whine:

Midori415
03-19-2006, 01:39 PM
Yeah, it's a TCG. I really like that there's a lot of action and not too much lovin' going on. Unless you count the brotherly love.

Mitsukai
03-19-2006, 09:57 PM
The show looked good, and I tried to follow along but I never got into it. So I bought the entire series for about $30 off eBay and plan to run through them in a day.

Last night, [Adult Swim] played the series finale episode for the first time since they started showing it almost a year ago.

I hate it when there are so few episodes of a good anime that you always want more. My examples would be FLCL, FMA, and NG: Evangelion.

So few episodes and yet, such a good series. :whine:

EDIT:
i was under the impression that the alternative for alchemy in our world was the advancement in technology (including electricity, jets, nuclear power etc etc...)

You would be right on the money, sir.

madpierrot
03-20-2006, 10:39 AM
For our world having more advanced technology it seemed to be lacking in technology that was... more advanced. We both had radios, cars, guns, tanks, their mechanical limb technology was centuries ahead of ours and they could take MUCH better color photos, heck it seemed like they were on 8 megapixels already. It seemed like we had boats and blimps and i'm sure it wouldn't take long for them to but an engine on a piece of wood and call it a boat. Oh well we can have cool shots of sporting events thanks to our blimps!

C0MPL3X
03-20-2006, 12:43 PM
SKIP reading if you haven't seen the movie or the series.


Yes, the difference between Al's world and Ed's world was the fact that one side could use alchemy and the other could not. But, technology of both worlds are at more or less an equivalent level, where Ed's was virtually our world at the time of WWII while Al's was creating, well, cyborgs. A least, at the end of the series. Then in the movie, germany started building 'rockets' and ended up building war shuttles. And they talk about how the physicist in Al's world invented uranium bomb first, which somehow got transported into Ed's world.
Yes, so it doesn't make much sense.

RuKiAsShAdOw
03-20-2006, 03:37 PM
Yes, the difference between Al's world and Ed's world was the fact that one side could use alchemy and the other could not. But, technology of both worlds are at more or less an equivalent level, where Ed's was virtually our world at the time of WWII while Al's was creating, well, cyborgs. A least, at the end of the series. Then in the movie, germany started building 'rockets' and ended up building war shuttles. And they talk about how the physicist in Al's world invented uranium bomb first, which somehow got transported into Ed's world.
Yes, so it doesn't make much sense.

please put things in a spoiler tag. though ive seen the entire series i have yet to see the movie.

Zen of Anime
04-02-2006, 08:02 AM
Orignialy posted by:Tremolo. Female in avatar != actually female.

And I'm very sorry you don't care about my post. Obviously your posts and opinions are of a much higher quality than mine, especially from someone with the weighty aspirations to "one day" become owner of an Inuyasha Yahoo group. Clearly you are not a person to be messed with and I apologise for treading on your toes. Please continue to not care about facts in future.

Not to be rude but I know that guy in real life he is a guy and he is a guy. Event though I hate him I still should make that clear. Dont you remember when he made that rant thread?

~Xx_nikki_xX~
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
I really like the show except for the last couple eppisodes. It starts falling into plot holes and a load of "wtf".

But the movie makes up for it.


but except for that is a great series.

LadyYuina
10-31-2006, 02:07 PM
Let's see: battle sequences, rich, colorful backgrounds, solid storyline, memorable characters. THESE are what I liked best which is pretty much the entire thing. :)

kobi666
10-31-2006, 02:32 PM
full metal alchemist is one of the most beautifull anime ever!
from designs to story, it kicks ass!

X~Alchemist
12-03-2006, 04:18 PM
FMA is the best anime to ever be created! But i have always wanted to no is who would win in a fight Armstrong or Roy?:duel:

isolatedotaku
12-03-2006, 05:13 PM
:spidey: ?

I'm pretty sure in the manga Roy thinks Armstrong is playing around while fighting Scar, but he is actually doing all he can to stay alive. Which makes me believe Roy thinks Armstrong is a lot stronger then he is.

They are also semi-uncomparable. Armstrong is extremely strong and relies on stone alchemy which is mainly short-range to mid-range(except his spike rockets). Roy is long-range and has a wide attack area. He [Roy] could snap his fingers and destroy an entire building.

... This is all irrelevant because Armstrong and Roy never fight for real in the FMA universe.

X~Alchemist
12-03-2006, 06:17 PM
alrite i see what ur saying i just thought i would ask

Starwind Amada
12-03-2006, 08:21 PM
do yourself a favor and dont watch the dubs.

Do yourself a favor and watch the great FMA dub. Or not, but either way, shut up.

so allthough usually i am all for subs instead of dubs...except eva of course...i am gonna have to watch the dubs then eventually i will get the subs but thanks for the warning...one of my friends already gave me a talking to bout this

If you want to watch the dub, watch the dub. Don't listen to punkusa's "warnings." He's just a snobby otaku who thinks Japanese is the end-all-be-all of anime, and that any translation is a bastardization of the original source material (they also think all R1 anime companies follow 4Kids' practices of butchering shows). There is nothing wrong with dubs and you should not feel that watching them is wrong. Don't listen to the self-righteous morons who always think they're right.

Erigion
12-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Do yourself a favor and watch the great FMA dub. Or not, but either way, shut up.



If you want to watch the dub, watch the dub. Don't listen to punkusa's "warnings." He's just a snobby otaku who thinks Japanese is the end-all-be-all of anime, and that any translation is a bastardization of the original source material (they also think all R1 anime companies follow 4Kids' practices of butchering shows). There is nothing wrong with dubs and you should not feel that watching them is wrong. Don't listen to the self-righteous morons who always think they're right.Why are you replying to a post that was made 8 months ago? At least make your annoying crusade timely.

X~Alchemist
12-04-2006, 04:52 PM
sureslly im with that person above me. i rlly want to talk about something that is recent not 8 months ago.

Erigion
12-04-2006, 08:33 PM
sureslly im with that person above me. i rlly want to talk about something that is recent not 8 months ago.
Seriously, I only roll with people who use spell check.

Starwind Amada
12-04-2006, 08:56 PM
sureslly im with that person above me. i rlly want to talk about something that is recent not 8 months ago.

Sure, maybe I accidentally bumped a topic, but what I said will always be relevant, since in any anime thread, there's bound to be some idiot who will bash dubs (even great ones like FMA) just to make himself feel better. But whatever, that's life, I guess.

jetfire
12-05-2006, 09:27 AM
Sure, maybe I accidentally bumped a topic, but what I said will always be relevant, since in any anime thread, there's bound to be some idiot who will bash dubs (even great ones like FMA) just to make himself feel better. But whatever, that's life, I guess.

And there will always be people who can't accept other peoples' opinions, making a huge fuss whenever someone else takes a certain stand with an issue that they don't agree with. It happens all the time, so mere opinions about subjects shouldn't really be taken to heart.

Also, do you even think mistress #9 will be taking your comment into consideration when she made that post so long ago? By now, it's completely irrelevant, and she probably won't even check back to read your comment...or even care.

And FMA still remains as my favourite anime to date. And I do actually like both subs and dubs of it. Both sides are actually very talented in my opinion.

Edit: And kyuubichan, if you were referring to me, then you could say the same thing for yourself in your post below mine. At least I didn't make any personal insults.

kyubichan
12-05-2006, 10:06 AM
There's also bound to be some idiot who will bash other people for their opinions. It's a vicious cycle.

I like the local dub of FMA. End.

X~Alchemist
12-05-2006, 02:02 PM
Seriously, I only roll with people who use spell check.

ok u no what one word is misspelled. get over it everone
misspells something once in a while.

sohryu
12-05-2006, 07:37 PM
ok u no what one word is misspelled. get over it everone
misspells something once in a while.

I'd say more like three. >.>

sureslly im with that person above me. i rlly want to talk about something that is recent not 8 months ago.
*seriously
*I'm
*really

Edit: I think I deserve 2000 points for getting the answer before Erig even posted the question :O!

Erigion
12-05-2006, 07:46 PM
ok u no what one word is misspelled. get over it everone
misspells something once in a while."Just one word? No. That was syntax genocide. The language you murdered left behind letters. Letters to watch, X~Alchemist, with their I's."

1000 points to the person who can tell me where it's from.

sureslly im with that person above me. i rlly want to talk about something that is recent not 8 months ago.

By the way. I see 3 misspelled words. Can you find them?!?

1000 points to the person who can tell me what words are misspelled!

Truten
12-05-2006, 07:49 PM
It's one the or is the best anime of '05, now one should watch another anime until they've seen this one.

isolatedotaku
12-05-2006, 07:52 PM
I'd say that is from VG Cats, Eri. I could be wrong, but that is my educated guess. And I think Soh deserves the other 1000 points.

Hopefully X has got the point by now.

kyubichan
12-05-2006, 08:22 PM
Letters to watch, X~Alchemist, with their I's."

XD Like said above, from VGCats. Aeris said that. Funny comic.

Starwind Amada
12-06-2006, 10:16 PM
It's one the or is the best anime of '05, now one should watch another anime until they've seen this one.

FMA was around before 2005. It premiered in the US in November 2004.

X~Alchemist
12-07-2006, 04:15 PM
all right you made your point

Starwind Amada
12-08-2006, 05:21 AM
all right you made your point

I'm just telling the truth. No need to get upset about it to make me look bad.

Javer
12-08-2006, 05:38 AM
I wish people would be a little more generous with the benefit of the doubt.