View Full Version : Noein ~ mou hitori no kimi e ~
Tremolo
10-12-2005, 08:21 AM
Yes, it's another "zomg new Autumn anime that look awesome!!1" thread!
The RAW of the first episode of the series by Satelight (Heat Guy J, Aquarion, other assorted prettiness) is out, so in anticipation of a subbed version hopefully appearing soon, here's a handy thread.
Official site can be found here: http://www.noein.jp/
The jaw-dropping awesomeoness that is the trailer can be found here: http://www.animate.tv/pv/detail.php?id=pdv050901c&page=0&m=&c=&sea=&tid=&rid=
Shiny and bizarre; loved the music as well. Damn, between this and ParaKiss, I may have to actually start watching anime again...
Ghostmaster
10-13-2005, 08:53 AM
looks weird, but interesting
aeroshadow
10-13-2005, 09:35 AM
Love the character design from what I can see. The clothing is very realistic without being bland. It looks slightly interesting; I might check it out either for myself or after reading some opinions on this thread...
Sakito
10-13-2005, 09:39 AM
i think that it is very nice should be a good thing to start on :samurai:
Gigadi
10-13-2005, 02:37 PM
Any details about story? Look cool though.
silan
10-13-2005, 03:43 PM
Sure does look cool, although what I could gather from the story description at the main website seems like it's another typical "girl determines fate of world" story.
Apparently, there are these two "space-time worlds": Lacrima and Shangri-la. Shangri-la's offensive strength and intentions (i.e. to attack Lacrima) are more than Lacrima can hold out against for long. However, there's word that there's some kind of Key that can stop Shangri-la: a Dragon's Torque (Toruku?). So they send out a Dragoon named Karasu (Kalas, Claus, Karas?) to search for and capture the Torque (I'm assuming that's the damn cool badass character from the preview). He finds it located in a girl named Haruka who's talking with her moping friend Yuu.
There was something else going on in the description, something about 15 years and Yuu. What I think it said was that Kalas is actually the adult Yuu, sent back in the past to find the Key... but I'm not sure about that. Someone else with better Japanese skills will have to figure that out...
I like the preview, though, and Kalas intrigues me.
Tremolo
10-16-2005, 06:12 PM
Episode 1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein2.jpg
Well. That was something else.
I'm now a Satelight whore. Tremolo = Satelight whore. Remember that. They're like GONZO, only with a bigger budget, better concepts and awesome animation. They rule.
And this rules as well. The cast are kids, but look like kids, ACT like kids and move like kids. The animation is fluid as ****, and has a nifty sketchy quality to the character designs, but it's not too OTT. You'll either like it and the occasional SD faces, or not.
Best thing is, this series is actually original. Yeah it's a bit weird, and yeah that's a good thing. There's not much of a plot yet, but there will be.
And Karas? Owns.
Slice of life meets fantasy, meets science fiction, meets drama. Don't miss this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein4.jpg
I'm basing this on the first fansub by the way, which uses softsubs. If you don't know what they are, don't know how they work or don't know if your comp has the shit to play them, don't download this and complain about them not working.
silan
10-16-2005, 09:19 PM
You know what, I take back what I said about this story being "typical." The more I read about it and hear about it, the more I'm starting to be intrigued by it and the more I'm convinced that this story will end up being more original than I'd thought.
All of which kind of sucks, because I'm unable to download anything right now, and I really, really want to see the first episode of this one.
Kitsurai
10-17-2005, 12:57 PM
Tremolo spelled it out like perfectly, so here's just a little of what I thought. Every scene had this piece-of-the-puzzle like quality to them, which I got used to very quickly thanks to nothing else but the way this first episode was presented. I didn't have to try to pay attention, the anime was practically helping and making sure I was with it's almost etheral beauty and finesse. I'mma real excited to follow this.
And Karas? Ya, mega-0wnz0rs.
soundchazer
10-17-2005, 01:27 PM
Episode 1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein2.jpg
Well. That was something else.
I'm now a Satelight whore. Tremolo = Satelight whore. Remember that. They're like GONZO, only with a bigger budget, better concepts and awesome animation. They rule.
And this rules as well. The cast are kids, but look like kids, ACT like kids and move like kids. The animation is fluid as ****, and has a nifty sketchy quality to the character designs, but it's not too OTT. You'll either like it and the occasional SD faces, or not.
Best thing is, this series is actually original. Yeah it's a bit weird, and yeah that's a good thing. There's not much of a plot yet, but there will be.
And Karas? Owns.
Slice of life meets fantasy, meets science fiction, meets drama. Don't miss this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/noein4.jpg
I'm basing this on the first fansub by the way, which uses softsubs. If you don't know what they are, don't know how they work or don't know if your comp has the shit to play them, don't download this and complain about them not working.
Actually, I find unfair to compair Gonzo and Satelight. Gonzo is working like 4 different projects. This is the only project Satelight is working in. Also, Satelight is not in charge of the full production, just the animation part, and is part of a 5 company team bringing the story to light, something that in many cases, does not hold true for Gonzo either. And the previous Satelight original productions were not THAT good either: Arjuna and Geneshaft didn't exactly become classics.
That being said, I love this anime so far. I think the character design is great, and it shows promise in the story department. Now let us hope this is not one of those "let's use half the budget on the first episode so we can reel people in" situations. I have seen more of those than I would care for.
Tremolo
10-17-2005, 01:34 PM
Actually, I find unfair to compair Gonzo and Satelight. Gonzo is working like 4 different projects. This is the only project Satelight is working in. Also, Satelight is not in charge of the full production, just the animation part, and is part of a 5 company team bringing the story to light, something that in many cases, does not hold true for Gonzo either. And the previous Satelight original productions were not THAT good either: Arjuna and Geneshaft didn't exactly become classics.
It's GONZO's fault that they do too much at once though. Much as I like them, they still spread themselves too thin. Satelight spend much more time on what they do - although yeah, Arjuna and Geneshaft aren't classics, they're still a relatively new studio. I find it interesting that they're heavily involved in the Hellsing Ultimate OVA though (animation and production along with Geneon) - their profile is evidently on the rise. But I see your point, the comparison was unfair; I was more making a point that they're both studios that use a mix of animation and CGI in their anime, but I think Satelight just pull it off better.
Now let us hope this is not one of those "let's use half the budget on the first episode so we can reel people in" situations. I have seen more of those than I would care for.
Agreed, I'd be damn unimpressed if that were the case. We'll just have to wait and see.
Picked up the first ep, and I rather enjoyed it, I must say. I do like the animation, though the 3D seems off at points. I'm reserving a lot of judgement until I get to see more of it, but Roark doesn't seem to like it much so far, so I may be stuck watching it on my own u.u;
soundchazer
10-17-2005, 05:03 PM
Picked up the first ep, and I rather enjoyed it, I must say. I do like the animation, though the 3D seems off at points. I'm reserving a lot of judgement until I get to see more of it, but Roark doesn't seem to like it much so far, so I may be stuck watching it on my own u.u;
That can be easily fixed... just tell him it was directed by the same guy who did Rose of Versailles and he will be sold.
aeroshadow
10-18-2005, 02:24 PM
I picked up the first episode, read the thread, and realized I don't really have much to add.
In a sentence: Noein looks decent, Yuu's mom is weird, the action scene at the beginning was awesome, there was a lot of CGI and I don't know if I like it, and I'll probably follow this.
Itachi Uchiha
10-18-2005, 10:19 PM
I don't know about this show... The first episode just left me hanging from a cliff. I don't know wtf is going on. This show is kind of reminiscent of Eva and RahXephon to me, but that might be just me... The feel of the show just seems like those two shows, not the storyline.
Considering the first episode didn't give me enough to make a decision on the show I will continue watching it until I can make up my mind about it.
So far it isn't really my thing...
Niner
10-22-2005, 11:10 AM
I don't like the character designs. They're too weird and inconsistent. One minute they'll be solid and realistic, the next they'll be choppy, skinny and bandy-legged. That, and the eyes really bug the hell out of me. They just look so unnatural that I find myself staring at them and not at what's happening. Yuck.
Yuu's a bit of a whiner, although with a mother like his, I can understand why he's all emo. Then you have Haruka who, in typical anime fashion, is concerned for the troubled rebel kid. Throw in a standard todgy group of friends and it just all come out very bland.
The special effects are pretty and all, but they can't make the show without support. Same thing for the music, which is reminiscent of Yuki Kajiura.
All in all, it's a weird show with weird designs and dull characters, but I've only seen the first episodes. With a series of this length, I'll wait until after I've seen a few more episodes before deciding if it's worth my time.
soundchazer
10-23-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't like the character designs. They're too weird and inconsistent. One minute they'll be solid and realistic, the next they'll be choppy, skinny and bandy-legged. That, and the eyes really bug the hell out of me. They just look so unnatural that I find myself staring at them and not at what's happening. Yuck.
You suck.
Niner
10-24-2005, 06:26 AM
Allow me to explain myself a bit further. Yes, I realize the character designs are different from your typical anime fare, and most of you probably like it because it does separate itself from the norm. But different does not always mean better, though it may most of the time, with anime such as ParaKiss and Honey & Clover, which have awesome character designs that are very unique. Noein is different as well, I just think that the way they pulled it off was a little ugly-looking.
Compare with me, if you will. Haruka (http://9.echonetwork.net/Crap/haruka01.jpg) and Chiyo chan's dad (http://9.echonetwork.net/Crap/Chiyodad.jpg). Separated at birth? Maybe so. :o
soundchazer
10-24-2005, 07:26 AM
you still suck. ;)
Tremolo
10-24-2005, 08:09 AM
If anyone's interested, Satelight's wonderfully inconsistent character designs seem to be rearing their heads once more :D
Borrowed from the AnimeOnDVD Forums:
Yuu in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuEp01.jpg)
Yuu in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuEp02.jpg)
Haruka in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/HarukaEp01.jpg)
Haruka in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/HarukaEp02.jpg)
Yuu and Haruka in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuHarukaEp01.jpg)
Yuu and Haruka in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuHarukaEp02.jpg)
Isami in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/FujiwaraEp01.jpg)
Isami in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/FujiwaraEp02.jpg)
Not really a problem, but for those complaining about the designs I thought they'd enjoy that. Apparently they revert to how they were in episode one for episode three though.
Gigadi
10-24-2005, 09:18 AM
If anyone's interested, Satelight's wonderfully inconsistent character designs seem to be rearing their heads once more :D
Borrowed from the AnimeOnDVD Forums:
Yuu in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuEp01.jpg)
Yuu in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuEp02.jpg)
Haruka in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/HarukaEp01.jpg)
Haruka in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/HarukaEp02.jpg)
Yuu and Haruka in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuHarukaEp01.jpg)
Yuu and Haruka in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/YuuHarukaEp02.jpg)
Isami in episode one. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/FujiwaraEp01.jpg)
Isami in episode two. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Melazoma/Noein/FujiwaraEp02.jpg)
Not really a problem, but for those complaining about the designs I thought they'd enjoy that. Apparently they revert to how they were in episode one for episode three though.
That's shameful.
Niner
10-24-2005, 09:24 AM
Good gracious. That is quite shameful. One of the most important things, to me at least, is how characters look. If they're going to jump around with the animation quality and look, then...ugh. I don't know.
Truth be told though, I do prefer how they look in episode two. Haruka actually doesn't look like the bastard love child of Shinobu from Love Hina and Chiyo-chan's dad.
Shadowmage
10-24-2005, 01:11 PM
Episode 1
This is a freakish cross between Last Exile, Dragonball Z, FLCL, and RaXephon...
I agree with Niner that the character design for the first episode sucked. I'm wondering if they changed the art director every other episode or something. I see some potential for the show so I'm sticking around. This should be interesting...
Ritalin
10-24-2005, 08:55 PM
That, and the eyes really bug the hell out of me. They just look so unnatural that I find myself staring at them and not at what's happening. Yuck.
Totally. The eyes scare me. I keep staring at the eyes... the eyes....
The character designs do suck. I don't like them. I'm not sure what to think of this anime otherwise; I enjoyed the first episode but am hopelessly confused and lost. I am hunting for episode 2 right now and maybe that will shed some light on things.
A-R@D
10-25-2005, 02:45 AM
Episode I
I like what I see animation and plot wise so far. Damn, there are too many good shows this season, I dont know if I will keep up with all of them. In the end I think this has the potential to be one of the top shows of this season. For me, I have the feeling this could turn into a fantasy epic. I know, we've been disapointed by fantasy epics before, *cough* wolfs rain *cough* Scrapped Princess* but I get a very good feeling about this one. I refuse to miss an episode of this one untill it proves to me that it is not worthy.
BTW The eyes dont bother me particularly. I find the art interesting. The eyes are similar to those in Fantastic Children (maybe a bit larger) and I thought that was a great series. (thanks to soundchazer with a well done review, which sparked my interest)
Gigadi
10-25-2005, 06:00 AM
When you watch and then your dissapointed that it's over, thats a good thing. While I may have been confused as to what was happening, that doesn't mean I wasn't having a great time. The characters were intresting, espically the DBZish alt Yuu.
If you can get opver the art style then this is definatly a series worth watching, from what I've seen so far.
Tremolo
10-25-2005, 06:25 AM
The character designs do suck. I don't like them.
I really think there's a difference between something actually sucking as opposed to you not liking them. I said when I reported back about the first episode that they'd divide people, and I was absolutely right. I'd much rather have those character designs (I don't get what the big deal is with the eyes, either) than something like this (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/4613.jpg) or this (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/5304.jpg) - at least it's something different. But yeah, it is all down to personal taste in the end.
Another group are subbing this now, which is heartening. Hopefully we can expect episode two and maybe even three by the weekend.
A-R@D
10-27-2005, 02:01 PM
Episode Two
The action picks up quite a bit this episode and the identities of the mysterious "ghosts" are revealed somewhat.
The more I watch this series, the more I am liking it. The music is spectacular. and the artwork is vidid and engaging, even if the character designs vary a bit from episode to episode. But the plot is really what is driving this. The plot has action, suspense, interesting characters and a unique premise. Check this one to be on my must watch list for some time.
soundchazer
10-27-2005, 02:17 PM
While I prefer the character design from the first episode, I don't mind how they look in the second one. The story so far is intriguing.
Taleweaver
10-28-2005, 01:14 PM
I definitely preferred the unusual, sketchy character designs with the weird eyes from episode one, too - the underlined the element of madness pretty well. I hope they return to them for later episodes.
Well I watched the first episode this morning, and I really enjoyed the background art, it's very eye catching and soothing, the music I too also enjoyed, but I found the character designs to be meh, I don't see what's so special about them, they just look like average people I'd see on the streets, except they wouldn't be animated and have large eyes. Also the events in the first episode left me very confused, but in a good way, makes me want to watch more, I can't wait to veiw the second episode.
Weird story, weird animation. Almost like Fantastic Children all over again. ;)
Shadowmage
11-11-2005, 06:19 PM
Episode 2
The animation quality is fluctuating a lot. The best way I can describe it is the difference between Dirty Harry and the others in Fukatoi Alternative. (Except, this show's animation disparity seems involuntary.) Heck, even fight scene in this episode gives me a deja-vous of episode 11. Anways, the story is proceeding along nicely. Although there is relatively little originality, the show has me intrigued. The teenage angst feels oddly unique this time around. Unlike other shows, this series starts at the characters' breaking points. Anways, this alternate universe thing may turn out to be huge loop... I'm sure there has been a lot of foreshadowing this episode.
A-R@D
11-11-2005, 06:51 PM
been waiting forever for episode three of this one to come out, I wonder did the subbers drop this one or something?
Shadowmage
11-11-2005, 06:54 PM
been waiting forever for episode three of this one to come out, I wonder did the subbers drop this one or something?
Note: The people "responsible" for this series have been known to take on several anime at once. Due to the large amount of work they have to do, they often do not get around to all shows as quickly as other groups that devote to a single series.
A-R@D
11-14-2005, 08:27 AM
Episode Three
Great Episode! :yes:
Im liking this show more every episode. The artwork is unique, the music is great, and the plot and suspense are fantastic. This show is giving me a vision of the vibe of a mixture of Escaflowne Now and then here and there in a very good way. I'm not saying its going to be that good in the long run, but it is definatley very entertaining so far. This is definatley a must watch in the fall lineup.
tsiki
11-15-2005, 02:36 AM
I just watched the first episode (thanks for the heads up on this series!) and I'm almost hooked already.
I love the character design, it has a lovable sketchy feeling in it but still is something that pleases the eye. The characters themselves, based on first episode, are extremely well done, and I'm really looking forward to how they will develop. I especially loved the interaction between Yuu, who's looking to escape the overblown expectations of his mother, and Haruka, the daughter of somewhat bohemian novelist mother, and who seems to be having trouble taking things seriously. Also, being a fan of weird series', the weirdness only adds spice to the mix. Aaanyway, I'm looking forward to wathing episodes 2 & 3 very much.
soundchazer
11-15-2005, 07:17 AM
Episode 3
OK... we got back to the original design (which I like better, thank you very much).
This series appear to be one of those sleeper series people will talk about down the road. So far the story has been good, intriguing and consistent.
MirMir
11-15-2005, 10:21 AM
Looks pretty interesting to me!
soundchazer
11-15-2005, 10:44 AM
Looks pretty interesting to me!
Could you elaborate? Why do you find it interesting?
Tremolo
11-17-2005, 09:15 AM
I'm loving where this is going.
Whilst we've got the usual early episode world-building going on, it's handled much more deftly than some other series, and I'm really pleased at just how quickly the characters have been built up in such a short space of time. Good writing and good seiyuu work.
The action is stunning in its own completely unique manner, provoking moments of genuine awe when most anime seems to have done it all as it were, it's nice to see genuine originality and creativity going on. I can't imagine how much the show costs, but it's just gorgeous, fluid and the CGI is some of the best I've seen.
Perhaps one of the only things bothering me so far is how hard it is to phase Haruka, who seems to take all this madness in her stride, but at least they tried to explain it with the line about her seeing strange things since childhood. And I'm really liking Yuu - his angst is well portrayed and he's an overall very well-drawn, believable kid.
Excellent stuff.
A-R@D
11-17-2005, 11:30 AM
Episode 4
Very surprising, I thought this episode would be more fantasy but it takes a different and interesting path. Less action than the previous episodes but definatley just as engaging.
Episodes 2-3
The animation in some of scenes in these two episodes have me a little worried that it's quality might drop later on down the road. So far I'm really liking the story and the mystery surrounding it, it's also very entertaining and intriguing. Currently I'm having mixed feelings about the whole teen angst, it's never really been my cup of tea, but it really adds to the drama and emotion which makes the series all the more better.
Yuu is the Shinji Ikari of the 21st Century.
Linuts
11-20-2005, 09:56 AM
What is going on this year?! There are already too many good shows to keep up with, then they throw THIS at us... And now, I've got tons of unwatched series waiting in my hard***** and my band***** from all this down******* is killing me :p.
Oh yes, I also find this series interesting. I agree that the style is a little weird but fits the overall mad and youthful atmosphere. Surprisingly, I was kinda turned off by ep 2's design. Sure, the artwork is a little better, but it felt like the director was trying to be too mainstream. The simple lines of the original is much easier on the eyes.
The story itself is intriguing. I am looking forward to see just how much of a role the "our world" Yuu will have in the overall story... Despite his angst, he is still a convincing character, and we all have an idea of what he might grow up to be. And no, not as annoying as Shinji.
Oh, I love the opening. I heard it's done by the same person that did Futakoi Alternative's OP/ED (haven't confirmed that yet). Good quality, as expected from her.
Niner
11-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Well, Futakoi Alternative's OP was done by YUMI and I don't think that's her. But according to ANN, eufonius did the OP to Noein, so you're on the ball, Linuts, because she did the ED to Futakoi Alt, "Bokura no Jikan" (fscking beautiful song, if you ask me).
Ooh, and the main female lead's voice was also Hagu from Honey & Clover. Too bad I don't want to watch the series because of the yucky art design. :(
Ooh, and the main female lead's voice was also Hagu from Honey & Clover. Too bad I don't want to watch the series because of the yucky art design. :(
I KNEW IT!
Episode 4
Oh the wonderful, wonderful drama. The drama portrayed in this episode I thought was really good, it had the hairs on my arms standding. With each new episode this series gets better.
A-R@D
11-24-2005, 12:12 AM
Episode 5;
Noein Continues to be my favorite show of the season. There has not been a bad episode yet. The latest installment, has the perfect amount, of plot, action and drama. This is maybe the best episode yet. I look forward to the next episode because the plot finaly moved where i wanted it to move.
Hopefully, the new world or dimesion or whatever will be vibrant and interesting. If it is and the plot quality continues to be as strong as has been, this anime should be included in the discussion of the top anime fantasy epics
I am really itching to watch the next episode asap.
Linuts
11-25-2005, 09:04 AM
Ep 5. Great ep!
We got a sneak peak at Karas' past and the havoc he is capable of unleashing (it seems he may not be any saner than that Atori). I'm more interested in all this techno babble about "becoming Quantum Beings" and all. But with how the things are going, we may get an explanation soon.
Wonder how Yuu will handle what happened at the end of the ep.
Once again, this is a great show so far that seems to be overlooked...
Gigadi
11-25-2005, 10:34 AM
Episode 4
I'm hooked....these are those kind of series that I really enjoy. Down to Earth believable characters that behave like normal people. I think that that is the main thing that keeps me going when I watch a series like this. I'm really very unclear on the plot right now but they haven't really explaind much.
This series has actually edged out Paradise Kiss as my current favorite.
More to come......
A-R@D
12-01-2005, 03:46 PM
Episode 6
Boy this show rocks. I think doesn't get enough recognition here with shows like parakiss and mai otome out this season. Personally this is has been my favorite show of the fall season. I am a big fan of fantasy epics like this one and the way the producers are handling the story in this one is on the money. (edit: NM on this comment, went back rereading previous posts and there is nothing but like 10 statements of how much this show rocks.)
This episode we finally get part of the explination we have been waiting for. Haruka is transported into the new world, we learn a few things about the new world and the physics that governs both worlds.
Couple shots (spoler warning)
http://home.comcast.net/~eamrhein/bscap007.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~eamrhein/bscap008.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~eamrhein/bscap009.jpg
Linuts
12-08-2005, 08:36 PM
I'm with you A-R@D! This show deserves more attention. This is another one of those shows that says "If you don't watch me, you'll die a terrible terrible death".
We continue to learn more about the setting of the story, about La'cryme and we even have confirmation of which personaility is which in the alternate worlds. Even in this dark atmosphere, the show continues to retain some of the child-like innocent antics that give it a little humor flare.
I'm starting to like Haruka as a character too. For someone who's just been warped to a desolate and bizarre world, she knows how to keep her calm.
Taleweaver
12-09-2005, 03:28 AM
Yup, the latest episode has finally given some insight into the nature of La'cryma (by the way, that's a bastardized Latin and means "tear") and its residents. Haruka is a bit superheroic here, especially with her "call me Solid Snake" escape from the prison cell. But I'm still much too impressed with the rest of the show to have many qualms about that. Now if they started to reveal more about the two investigators in the car...
soundchazer
12-09-2005, 03:32 AM
I agree... this anime is really a departure from 98.74% of the stuff out there, from storyline to character design. THis one and Mushishi are difnately the sleeper hits of the season so far.
Taleweaver
12-09-2005, 03:40 AM
Mushishi - sleeper hit - yes. Noein? More like top hit of 2005. It's a Bandai title, so it's guaranteed to get some big attention, and the action sequences and use of CGI are just stunning. Oh, and did I mention the Hans Zimmer soundtrack? Which films outside of Hollywood so far had a Hans Zimmer OST?
soundchazer
12-09-2005, 03:58 AM
Mushishi - sleeper hit - yes. Noein? More like top hit of 2005. It's a Bandai title, so it's guaranteed to get some big attention, and the action sequences and use of CGI are just stunning. Oh, and did I mention the Hans Zimmer soundtrack? Which films outside of Hollywood so far had a Hans Zimmer OST?
He does the music for Blood +, not Noein. Nanase Hikaru does the music for Noein.
And seriously... there was no hype over moein. Yes, Bandai may be involved, but not every project receives 5 star treatment like Fullmetal Alchemist.
Taleweaver
12-09-2005, 04:24 AM
Oh right - I got them mixed up for a moment. But still: Bandai is one of the Big Names, certainly bigger than the "Mushishi Production Committee", or whatever its name is. I'm pretty sure Noein is one of the more recognized titles.
A-R@D
12-21-2005, 12:29 PM
Episode 7
An action episode. Now that we understand fully what has been going on, they bring us an action episode! I know it doesn't develop the plot hugely but I think this was the perfect spot for one. We still don't get a great explanation of why they need Haruka in the other time space. Hopefully this will be revealed in a later episode.
Episode 8
Ok, now Haruka is back in her own world with a new guest!This provides for some interesting situations back at Haruka's house, both with Haruka's mom, and Yuu's mom. One does get the feeling that they are going to play a even more important role in the plot in the future. This series is continually making me surprised and that is a good thing. I am not sure where they are going with this plot, but that only makes me more exited. Hopefully the producers will continue to surprise me, yet I can still see this going down the scrapped princess route if the writers decide to take a cop out ending.
Taleweaver
12-22-2005, 01:00 AM
Up to now, the show is a really tasty mix of action, drama and some comic relief, and I hope the plot lives up to the high technical quality the series has shown so far. With now three La'cryma outcasts in "our world", two of which hate one another with passion and the loyal La'crymans on Karasu's trail, everything is set for more conflict. Add to that the much more personal conflict Yuu is facing and it's impossible to tell the path everything will be taking. Good stuff so far!
Linuts
12-23-2005, 10:16 PM
Ep 7
Is it just me, or did the director from Ep 2 came back. Though the style is still the same, there were times when it felt different. Particularly with the use of colors and detail. Some very nice action scenes in this ep.
Ep 8
When Yuu is not in angsty mode, he can act like any other kid. Haruka and him can make a cute couple.
Now that Karasu has removed that pipeline, is this foreshadowing of more tragedies to come? o_O
Ep 9
Well, I guess the issue with Yuu's mom is resolved... o_O Who'd thought she was just like Yuu when she was young. This will probably lift some of the burden off of Yuu, but it looks like Karasu will keep on pushing him until he stops acting like a wuss.
The Knights from Lacryme are now in Haruka's world... Looks like more conflicts ahead.
Linuts
01-07-2006, 12:00 PM
Ep 10
A good fight between Atori and Karasu. This show continues to have some of the best action scenes I've seen in a while. Lacryme's hunters are finally making their move, and we get a little info on how the Japanese government seems to be aware of all this Quantum fluctuations or whatever you call it :p. Speaking of the people from Lacryme, you gotta wonder what's going through their heads when they are looking at their past counterparts. Karasu is obviously still very attached to his past, as you can see it on his face during the children's coversation. Future Isami on the other hand seems to be very afraid of looking back... As seen when Haruka used her powers again.
MOre conflicts are piling up, and I am eager to see:
Ep 12 spoiler
The fight between Isami and Karasu... Thanks for spoiling me 4channel
I am officially hooked on this show, the sound quality for this series is one of the best that I have ever heard. Is it just me or does this series remind you of The Matrix, the way the future is portrayed and going into another dimension, Noein tackles these issues better IMO but it still has that Matrix vibe for me.
Linuts
01-11-2006, 09:34 PM
Ep 11
Another "explanation" episode. We find out more about what the government is really up to, and a little hint at Haruka's past. No action here, but everything's set up for the next ep.
Ep 12
All I have to say is...
KICKU ASSU!
Episode 11 who would ever think reading a book about string theory and reruns of Quantum Leap would come in handy when watching anime.
TwinchaosX
01-15-2006, 05:35 PM
I finally got to see this show =) my friend got me the episodes on his computer and I am really impressed. Its been awhile since I have seen some really good anime and this is a breath of fresh air.
Linuts
01-22-2006, 09:30 PM
Ep 13
Ok, this thread seriously needs all the wordy critics back. Cause right now, I'm running out of good things to say about this show without going into long winding summaries. Plot twists!
Atori is... No longer Atori? Wait, who is he now? What I thought was just another psychotic villain suddenly turned into an almost disturbingly innocent looking pansy with a lot of fire power.
A-R@D
01-22-2006, 09:32 PM
Ah the old, villian forgets he's a villian, memory loss trick! Don't worry, he will regain his memory in a later episode only to pretend that he's still an ally, then he will betray the group in some grand way.
Or else i am way off target :/
Ninja Realist
01-23-2006, 08:26 PM
At this point, I find it really irritating that we have NO idea what ShangriLa and Noein are? Nor do we know what their motivation is.
This is a massive blank spot in this show that I hope gets filled in soon.
Linuts
01-23-2006, 08:57 PM
At this point, I find it really irritating that we have NO idea what ShangriLa and Noein are? Nor do we know what their motivation is.
This is a massive blank spot in this show that I hope gets filled in soon.
Well obviously that is also part of what makes this show interesting.
There have been speculations elsewhere that
Maybe spoilish speculation o_O
Noein may actually be Karasu/Yuu. This is based on the fact that his voice is the same as Karasu's.
Well we get to see the softer side of Atori, half way there so there should be more development, but I think next episode will focus on Haruka's mother and father. If we are lucky something about Noein but they might save that until the end.
Double post on Noein WTF you people living in a hole.
Episode 14 We get to see Haruka's father who was mentioned from the previous episodes and we get to see how Haruka's parents meet and their last day as a couple. Pretty touching for me seeing as my parents divorced at around the same age Haruka's parents divorced. It raised interesting questions for me such as what would you say to your parents if you had the maturity/ or hindsight, if you changed your past would you still be you and the fact that the past that you are is unchangeable.
Ninja Realist
02-15-2006, 05:59 AM
Jesus. What the hell took so long with epsiode 14? Glad it's finally out though, will add comments once I see it.
Linuts
02-15-2006, 09:33 AM
Arg! This show certainly has an undeserved lack of attention in these boards.
Ep 14 was trippy, and very interesting. Probably the best part was at the end when...
Future Haruka calls out to her alternative Harukas for Yuu's sake.
soundchazer
02-15-2006, 09:35 AM
Arg! This show certainly has an undeserved lack of attention in these boards.
I have to agree with you, this is probably the most underrated show of the season.
Ninja Realist
02-16-2006, 07:21 AM
Episode 14:
Good character building episode. Interesting to see more about Haruka's mother and father. The relationship between Karasu and Yuu is getting EXTREMELY tiresome though. It seems like all he can say to him is, "Protect Haruka". But they did seem to open up a little in this episode and go beyond their usual one dimensional dialogue. I am actually liking the new Atori more than the old, phsycotic one. I have a feeling that this is what Atori used to be like before he became one of the birds.
The ending was the best part of the show. For one, what was that thing that we saw floating at that rock pit? Is it from Shangri-La? Two, is Haruka's Dimension perhaps going to be invaded, like La'Cryma (Tobi seemed to be hinting at this)? It was also totally awesome when Haruka picked up the phone, expecting to hear her father's voice(I sure as hell know I was) and then suddenly hearing that strange voice warning her to protect Yuu. Not only did that catch me totally off guard, but it's neat to see the Yuu:Haruka dynamic turned on it's head.
From the looks of the next episode, we may finally get some insight into what Shangri'La actually is.
Linuts
02-22-2006, 10:06 PM
Ep 15
Admittedly, the animation was a little clunky here in a few parts. Otherwise, things are really picking up. Shangrila made the first move and we finally got a picture as to what Noein is up to.
I am starting to think Noein really is Karasu/Yuu. Considering how much he wants to create a world without sorrow, he probably lived a life full of sadness himself... Yuu's/Karasu's life comes to mind.
Also, all this time I thought Shangrila has control over the Ororborus... But it seems they or Noein can't do anything with them without Haruka. So Noein may not be as godly as I first thought he was.
soundchazer
02-23-2006, 12:34 AM
I agree with you. The animation was not that good this time around. The storyline continues to be strong though. It is going to be interesting to see exactly what role Uchida and Kooriyama have to play in this mess, because they seem to be knee deep into it now.
Linuts
02-23-2006, 09:25 PM
Well it just keeps getting better.
Ep 16
So Noein's identity is pretty obvious now... Unless he was just playing mind games with Haruka again. Karasu and Yuu's interaction has finally moved away from the standard "get strong wimp" dialogue and we found out just what happened to Karasu during the first episode. All the pieces of the puzzle are coming together.
soundchazer
02-23-2006, 09:37 PM
For some odd reason, I think that Noein is
Yuu/Karasu from an even more distant future who realizes that the only way to save Haruka is to take her out of the parallel worlds.
Great sci-fi stuff. It has been a while since I have seen such complexity in a story.
C0MPL3X
02-24-2006, 09:50 PM
I've been scratching my head for a while but my poor little brain can't figure out,
if there's an infinite number of Haruka, then why is everyone so interested in that ONE haruka in that ONE timespace out of infinite harukas and timespaces. What's so special about that particular haruka/timespace? After all, aren't there another infinite number of Harukas (not illusionary harukas that are not connected to the same timespace), but different variations of the same Haruka connected by same timespace?
Ninja Realist
02-24-2006, 09:54 PM
I've been scratching my head for a while but my poor little brain can't figure out,
if there's an infinite number of Haruka, then why is everyone so interested in that ONE haruka in that ONE timespace out of infinite harukas and timespaces. What's so special about that particular haruka/timespace? After all, aren't there another infinite number of Harukas (not illusionary harukas that are not connected to the same timespace), but different variations of the same Haruka connected by same timespace?
It's because of a space/time phenomenon known as a plot hole.
C0MPL3X
02-24-2006, 09:59 PM
Sorry, my knowledge on relativity/quantum mechanics only go upto high school level. If it is necessary to read more to understand what is going on, please inform me so. If not, can you briefly elaborate bit more about,
what is this phenomenon plot hole simply? And what does that have to do with this particular Haruka/timespace? And why is it that only this particular Haruka is a dragon torque? Why not every other infinite number of haruka?
or maybe no one yet knows at this stage.
silan
02-24-2006, 10:51 PM
Sorry, my knowledge on relativity/quantum mechanics only go upto high school level. If it is necessary to read more to understand what is going on, please inform me so. If not, can you briefly elaborate bit more about,
what is this phenomenon plot hole simply? And what does that have to do with this particular Haruka/timespace?
That is the funniest reply I've read on AA all week.
C0MPL3X
02-24-2006, 11:03 PM
You know, I was going to delete that last post. Or I can leave it there and have the forum laugh at me.
A-R@D
02-24-2006, 11:51 PM
I guess you got something to post on the "my dumbest post ever" thread.
Episodes 15 and 16 were good. I am a growing a little uncomfortable with the pacing of the show latley. Early on, it showed signs of being an interesting fast paced action show, but latley I think it has been spending too much time on character development and not enough on resolving plot issues. Hopefully the upcoming episodes will do better.
Ninja Realist
02-24-2006, 11:59 PM
Sorry, my knowledge on relativity/quantum mechanics only go upto high school level. If it is necessary to read more to understand what is going on, please inform me so. If not, can you briefly elaborate bit more about,
what is this phenomenon plot hole simply? And what does that have to do with this particular Haruka/timespace? And why is it that only this particular Haruka is a dragon torque? Why not every other infinite number of haruka?
or maybe no one yet knows at this stage.
* Ninja Realist dies
silan
02-25-2006, 09:01 AM
You know, I was going to delete that last post. Or I can leave it there and have the forum laugh at me.
It's too late. We've already quoted it to high heaven. You can't hide it now and pretend it never happened.
:lopoint:
Linuts
02-25-2006, 11:09 PM
I guess you got something to post on the "my dumbest post ever" thread.
Episodes 15 and 16 were good. I am a growing a little uncomfortable with the pacing of the show latley. Early on, it showed signs of being an interesting fast paced action show, but latley I think it has been spending too much time on character development and not enough on resolving plot issues. Hopefully the upcoming episodes will do better.
Really? I thought an awful lot was answered over the past few episodes. Sure there are still questions wiht Atori, Haruka and Haruka's dad, but everything else to do with Noein, ShangriLa and Lacryme have mostly been explained. And considering that still have 8-10 episodes to go, I think the pacing's just fine.
This is my guess
Haruka's dad is the time/space drifter
C0MPL3X
02-26-2006, 08:09 AM
Really? I thought an awful lot was answered over the past few episodes. Sure there are still questions wiht Atori, Haruka and Haruka's dad, but everything else to do with Noein, ShangriLa and Lacryme have mostly been explained. And considering that still have 8-10 episodes to go, I think the pacing's just fine.
We're upto episode 16, I don't think anything much have progressed except for people trying to get dragon torque...and they're still trying to get it. And despite all the character developments, I still don't like the character of Haruka. Yuu/Karasu, I think displays a lot of emotion (although every time Karasu says 'I will protect Haruka' I want to scream). Sometimes sketchy sometimes surreal drawings are quite appropriate for scenes that involve fighting/transition between time and space, but most of the time I'm not very impressed with the art/animation. Not to mention the awesome plot hole phenomenon (at that time, it really sounded like a type of warp or wormhole that intervenes time and space but never mind...). Many scenes are intense but so far, this isn't as good as I originally thought it to be.
Linuts
03-08-2006, 08:45 PM
Ok, while I still think the past episodes has explained a lot...
Ep 17 is definitly centered around the show's characters again. The brief action is as sweet is as good as ever, and now another Dragoon is staying in Haruka's world o_O.
Episode 18 looks like we are reaching the climax here with the invasion from Shangri La into Haruka's time and Haruka's powers getting stronger. Now when is Yuu going to step up, Karasu is doing all the protecting.
Linuts
04-11-2006, 10:12 AM
Ok, while there are tons of awesome shows starting up this season, we can't forget about the good ones from last year yet, now can we?
Ep 18 & 19
Lots of things happening at once. The Shangrila invasion has begun, and the final confrontation is approaching. But then, I'm getting the bad feeling that by the end of it all Haruka will manage to pull off one of her "I have hidden powers"-no-jitsu again and save the day. Aside from that, a lot of tense build-up between the dragoons in our world and the one left in Lacryme.
Looks like Haruka and Yuu are sent to Lacryme this time. It'll be interesting to see how the future counterparts of their friends will react to Yuu's arrival. And Atori's baaaack... Gotta wonder why he was so happy to see Haruka get taken at the end. Just what the hell is he thinking?
Linuts
04-17-2006, 12:12 AM
Arg... Is no one else watching this too?
Has everyone missed out on the awesome ep 20? Cause if you have, go kill yourself! NOW!
...
Not until you've watched this ep though.
I don't feel like saying too much now... But this episode raised an interesting question... Who's doing the laundry inside of those machines Noein is sending out? o_O
ShinoMatrix
04-17-2006, 01:17 AM
Oh, wow, how could I have missed this thread all this time... I've been watching Noein all along, and have enjoyed it immensely till now... hehe, laundry...
It definitely feels like it's all about to wrap up soon... *sigh*
A-R@D
04-17-2006, 01:28 AM
I've seen the new episode and I thought It was great as well. With what was revealed with noein and shangra'la in this episode It seems as if this episode could be the turning point towards the climax of the show.
The climax and the ending could really make or break the show in my eyes. I'm begining to fear that the producers will not be able to tie up all the loose ends and create a an acceptable ending. Hopefully, my fears will prove unfounded. All im hoping is for this not to have a dud of an ending like last exile, scrapped princess, or wolfs rain (wait those are all done by studio bones or Gonzo lol).
soundchazer
04-17-2006, 05:26 AM
Uhm... last exile had a very acceptable ending...
Episode 21 and getting closer towards the ending. Touching moment between Yuu and Karasu, but the real win was Haruka's parents in the restaurant. episode 22 may reveal how all timespaces merge into one so I will await eagerly
Linuts
05-10-2006, 09:52 AM
Ep 21:
Yeah, it's nice to see mroe glimpses of Karasu's past. But we still don't get to see grown up Haruka's face T_T.
Anyway, more is being build up. I'm still wondering how Noein ended up the way he is now. And what's the deal with Atori? Did I miss something? Just why does that psycho like that pink-hair girl so much (yeah, forgot her name). He is surprisingly "good" in this ep though...
Episode 22 is out will post later.
Linuts
05-25-2006, 09:55 AM
Episode 22 is out will post now! :D
Really good character oriented episode. It was kind of hard watching all the characters we know and love facing such a depressing future. Though there were a few holes here and there, like how did Isami know which hospital Habese was in, and what was the disease that required Habese to amputate her leg?
A lot of revelation regarding Noein's timespace.
Haruka apparently dies in every timespace o_O. And Noein/Yuu is like the ultimate emo kid/man/quantum-being with godly powers. Scaaary...
Looks like ep 24 is the last one. Damn, slow subs! I can't wait anymore!
Episode 22 is out will post now! :D
Really good character oriented episode. It was kind of hard watching all the characters we know and love facing such a depressing future. Though there were a few holes here and there, like how did Isami know which hospital Habese was in,! there probably is only one or two hospitals in that small town.
and what was the disease that required Habese to amputate her leg?
A lot of revelation regarding Noein's timespace.
Haruka apparently dies in every timespace o_O. And Noein/Yuu is like the ultimate emo kid/man/quantum-being with godly powers. Scaaary...
Looks like ep 24 is the last one. Damn, slow subs! I can't wait anymore!
they'll go the standard route of Yuu overcoming fears because he loves Haruka, Haruka and Yuu's love saves the time/spaces and everyone lives happily ever after.But it would be nice if they do something radical and end things on a sadder note. Yuu sacrifices himself to save the time/spaces and Haruka will deal with it unlike every Yuu.
Isami and Harabe on the hospital roof was winner of this episode. Noein really does a good job of blending action and drama without getting melodramatic or generic. I'm with you Linuts can't wait for the next two episodes which will probably take a month or two! ARRRR:whip:
Episode 23 we finally get to see how Yuu became Noein, one of the saddest time spaces but probably the most realistic except for the fact that Yuu/Noein flew out of the car, maybe buckling up isn't as safe as they say.
oh yeah Linuts, you can see a 17 year old Haruka
Linuts
06-15-2006, 08:49 PM
Episode 23 we finally get to see how Yuu became Noein, one of the saddest time spaces but probably the most realistic except for the fact that Yuu/Noein flew out of the car, maybe buckling up isn't as safe as they say.
It must really suck to be Yuu and Haruka.
Yuu becoming the Godly Emo Kid Noein makes perfect sense in this case. Yuu started out being emotional in the show. That shows just how emotionally vulnerable he really is. After seeing all the tragedies, him becoming Noein seems natural.
Also, I've been wondering about those seahorse things. When Yuu meets one of them, it said something along the lines of "We've made a mistake". Not to mention
I guy in the seahorse sounds like Yuu/Karasu/Noein. Maybe all the seahorse guys were Yuus from all the other time spaces that Noein bought together during his journey.
At this point, my only question is, who is that old guy that keeps helping Haruka?
oh yeah Linuts, you can see a 17 year old Haruka
Just the face. Too bad we didn't get to see all of her :p.
At this point, my only question is, who is that old guy that keeps helping Haruka?
I think that is Haruka's father.
Just the face. Too bad we didn't get to see all of her :p.
Better than nothing :D
ShinoMatrix
06-15-2006, 09:32 PM
Haruka's father? Hmm... I'd tend to believe more he was some sort of guardian of time or a personification of the power of the dragon torque... But man, can't wait now for the final episode. This series has not disappointed.
Linuts
06-15-2006, 09:37 PM
This series has not disappointed.
Which still leads me to the question "WHY THE HELL DOES NO ONE GIVE A F$CK?!".
People! Look past the artwork! This series is a hit!
ShinoMatrix
06-16-2006, 11:02 PM
Perhaps it's due to the relative, err, randomness of its release that has stopped people from following it. Let them be dude, they're still all noobs :XD:
soundchazer
06-17-2006, 05:54 AM
actually, I like the artwork.
Taleweaver
07-10-2006, 03:43 PM
To anybody who's still awake: No E In has just reached its stunning conclusion in episode 24.
Review following up soon. That much right now:
Another ending that totally lived up to the high expectations the series set. The conclusion in itself was totally logical in the frame of its own world, if maybe a tad predictable, and I definitely liked how they finally gave a philosophical view on the "quantum physics talk" that dominated the show.
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