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loner
10-12-2005, 01:11 AM
Hachikuro may be over, but despair not, following right up its heel is Parakisu. As much as I loved Honey & Clover, IMO Paradise Kiss has more potential and should be a better anime. Episode come out today, so here's some basic information (taken from here: http://www.designchronicle.com/memento)

Broadcast information
Starting date: 13 October 2005
Station: Fuji TV
Animation Studio: MadHouse
Character Designer: Nobuteru Yuki

Opening Theme
Lonely in Gorgeous
Performed by Tommy february6

Ending Theme
Do You Want To
Performed by Franz Ferdinand

Cast Lists
Hayasaka 'Caroline' Hikari: Yamada Yuu
Koizumi 'George' Jouji: Hamada Kenji
Sakurada Miwako: Matsumoto Marika
Nagase Arashi: Mizutani Shunsuke
Isabella: Suzuka Chiharu

Yeah, Franz Ferdinand doing the ending. More reason for me to be excited about this series. And if they can get such a popular Western band to do the ending, it probably (hopefully) means that the producer will have more cash at hand for this project than he did with Beck. After all, Beck was a little known manga that only catered to a small market before it became an anime. Parakisu is a very popular manga already, and the mangaka is the probably the most popular one around right now, so money should not be a problem for the producer this time around.

Gigadi
10-12-2005, 04:22 AM
Now this is what I've been waiting for, I absolutly loved H&C. Though I'm sad it see it go, this could be much bigger.

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 04:49 AM
Actually, Franz Ferdinand's song was not made for the anime, but rather used for it. That song has been on the airwaves for a few weeks now. Think "Girls on Film" by Duran Duran being used in Speed Grapher.

Tremolo
10-12-2005, 04:55 AM
Think "Girls on Film" by Duran Duran being used in Speed Grapher.

Only much cooler and up-to-date :D

<3 Franz Ferdinand

Tommy february6 is pretty good as well, so we're being treated well music-wise.


According to ANN, the ParaKiss anime will have 12 episodes which seems about the right length to me. Judging by the closeness of the character designs to the manga, I'm thinking this will a nice, faithful adapatation. If it is, it has potential to be a classic.

Kagome654
10-12-2005, 05:14 AM
It's rare for me to get very excited over an anime (I'm really more of a manga person) but I'm actually giddy over this one. So much so that I just reread all my ParaKiss manga (Yayness!) Glad to hear its a 12 episode run too, not only because that would suit it better but also because I lose the energy to keep up with long running series after a while.

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 05:35 AM
It's rare for me to get very excited over an anime (I'm really more of a manga person) but I'm actually giddy over this one. So much so that I just reread all my ParaKiss manga (Yayness!) Glad to hear its a 12 episode run too, not only because that would suit it better but also because I lose the energy to keep up with long running series after a while.

Translation: He has a short attention span.

Ritalin
10-12-2005, 06:31 AM
The only thing that upsets me is how short it is, but that is because the manga isn't even done. Which makes me sad. I, too, reread my manga a few weeks ago and got all fangirly again.

Oh god. Tomorrow needs to hurry up and someone NEEDS to fansub this. I'm betting most groups are after that Mai Hime sequel and the Tsubasa movie (<3 Tsubasa but PLEASE, we don't need millions of groups on one anime).

loner
10-12-2005, 06:37 AM
Oh it will be fansubbed for sure. It may take a while to get going, as was the case with H&C, but once people realize how good it is, it'll be subbed at the desired rate. After all, this is not Glass Mask, which was only known by me and very few others (grumble grumble grumble)

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 06:52 AM
The only thing that upsets me is how short it is, but that is because the manga isn't even done.

Huh???? The manga IS done, and is only 5 books long. It seems 12 episodes is good enough for a 5 book manga.

Mana
10-12-2005, 07:13 AM
Huh???? The manga IS done, and is only 5 books long. It seems 12 episodes is good enough for a 5 book manga.
I was just going to say that >_>;

I got around to watching the promo last last, and it did seem good. Yeah, this may be the first anime in a while I'll be keeping tabs on ^^;

Kagome654
10-12-2005, 08:04 AM
Translation: He has a short attention span.

'She' has a short attention span, aside from that little error you hit the nail right on the head. I have the attention span of a gnat, in fact I oft-Hey look, a plastic bag caught in an updraft! *runs off to chase it*

(I need to prod my sister into watching this with me when it comes out)

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 08:21 AM
Your avatar and sig threw me off, it is not common for girls to be fans of Booster Gold and Blue Beetle.

Ritalin
10-12-2005, 08:27 AM
Huh???? The manga IS done, and is only 5 books long. It seems 12 episodes is good enough for a 5 book manga.

Then what is all this talk of a volume 6? I have no links right now, but pratically everywhere I go there is talk about it being released in some magazine in Japan. These aren't rumors I'm hearing either, since most are certain. It did take Yazawa a good long time to release volume 5, so it really wouldn't shock me to suddenly see a volume 6.

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 08:41 AM
Then what is all this talk of a volume 6? I have no links right now, but pratically everywhere I go there is talk about it being released in some magazine in Japan. These aren't rumors I'm hearing either, since most are certain. It did take Yazawa a good long time to release volume 5, so it really wouldn't shock me to suddenly see a volume 6.

I would be surprised, given that she has already worked on at least two other projects afterwards, plus, the ending was very definitive (and a bit open ended, just like she loves to leave her stories).

Kagome654
10-12-2005, 08:58 AM
Your avatar and sig threw me off, it is not common for girls to be fans of Booster Gold and Blue Beetle.

I'm impressed you recognized them, they don't get enough love, at least compared to other DC characters (Which is a shame, Bats hogs all the attention :batman: )

I can't seem to find any info on Arashi's seiyuu, aside from him being a member of some band. Does anyone happen to know if he's done any other fairly well known roles? George's seiyuu I know from Gungrave, Naruto and a few others and I'm quite pleased with the choice. Yayness, my excitement grows further.

Lord_Yunsung
10-12-2005, 12:45 PM
i liked the books and everything and i did want to see the anime. so in the end i think ill go get it right now!:sly:

Tremolo
10-12-2005, 12:46 PM
i liked the books and everything and i did want to see the anime. so in the end i think ill go get it right now!:sly:

Joke's on you, it's not out yet!

* Tremolo 1, uniformed noob 0

Mana
10-12-2005, 12:51 PM
can't seem to find any info on Arashi's seiyuu, aside from him being a member of some band. Does anyone happen to know if he's done any other fairly well known roles?
He's not up on either ANN or IMDB, so it may be a debut voice acting thing for him? I did manage to find a link to his band's site though, if anyone's interested:

http://www.strawberry-fields.jp/thebabys/

aeroshadow
10-12-2005, 01:47 PM
Sure, it sounds great. I mean, since the manga is apparently so good (according to you guys), and since it is replacing Honey and Clover in its timeslot, it has to be worth watching at least a little, right?

I'm definitely interested, but am I the only one who finds the character art extremely unappealing?

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 01:54 PM
Sure, it sounds great. I mean, since the manga is apparently so good (according to you guys, and since it is replacing Honey and Clover in its timeslot, it has to be worth watching at least a little, right?

I'm definitely interested, but am I the only one who finds the character art extremely unappealing?

Yes

A-R@D
10-12-2005, 02:07 PM
Sure, it sounds great. I mean, since the manga is apparently so good (according to you guys, and since it is replacing Honey and Clover in its timeslot, it has to be worth watching at least a little, right?

I'm definitely interested, but am I the only one who finds the character art extremely unappealing?

I second that yes from soundchaser. This series has some of the best character art ive ever seen.

Kagome654
10-12-2005, 02:38 PM
The character art took a little getting used to for me, but I really grew to love it by the end. It's nice to see radically different character designs because, let's face it, that's where a lot of anime lose points...at least for me. I really like Arashi's design, but that could be because self mutilation is a fetish of mine

Kaikyaku
10-12-2005, 02:43 PM
I just watched the trailer and I'm very intruiged. I was thinking since I already have 3 series on the good I would have time for this one, but since it's only 12 episodes I might try to squeeze it in.

The character design is definetly unique. I think it would take some getting used to, but I would probably like it in the end.

Tremolo
10-12-2005, 02:44 PM
My views on character art:

Bland, boring, cookie-cutter (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/4613.jpg) versus interesting, different, attention-grabbing (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/5458.jpg)

We need more of the latter and less of the former, to be honest. And I seriously don't know why people would find the ParaKiss designs "unappealing"... they're not ugly, just different and very attractive in their own right. I can understand people saying that about Hisashi Hirai's designs for instance, or for say Gilgamesh and numerous other series with more distinctive designs, but for the ParaKiss anime? Does not compute.

Ritalin
10-12-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm definitely interested, but am I the only one who finds the character art extremely unappealing?

Yes.

<3 Ai Yazawa artwork. It's the highest points of her work, imo. Isabella rocks my world.

aeroshadow
10-12-2005, 03:03 PM
My views on character art:

Bland, boring, cookie-cutter (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/4613.jpg) versus interesting, different, attention-grabbing (http://img2.anidb.info/pics/anime/5458.jpg)

We need more of the latter and less of the former, to be honest. And I seriously don't know why people would find the ParaKiss designs "unappealing"... they're not ugly, just different and very attractive in their own right. I can understand people saying that about Hisashi Hirai's designs for instance, or for say Gilgamesh and numerous other series with more distinctive designs, but for the ParaKiss anime? Does not compute.I agree here for the most part, as I love the unorthodox art styles in H&C and Gankutsuou, but while the ParaKiss art style definitely looks interesting, colorful, and vibrant... I still get "ugly". Sorry.

It's okay, though, since art style doesn't matter too much to me as long as the rest is good. I never really liked Fantastic Children's art style, but I still loved the actual show to death.

Anyways, I'll see how it goes...

Mana
10-12-2005, 03:03 PM
Not to blandly agree, but Yazawa'a art was the thing that made me pick up the ParaKiss manga in the first place. I'm so glad they kept the same styling; it would have been wrong without it.

I think it says something about the anime released lately when people have to "get used to" different styles... So much anime released lately looks much too alike for my tastes, which is partially why I stopped watching a lot of it ^^; Yay for diversity.

soundchazer
10-12-2005, 04:20 PM
This warrants a thread of it own...

hayama22
10-12-2005, 06:39 PM
I think that the art is what's got me really interested in this series. It's not too conventional, but it's clean, original, more realistic, and very appealing.

I'm really excited about hearing Franz Ferdinand's new song as the ending theme. It may actually have been made for the series. The album was just released a few weeks ago I think, and I think that they would have chosen an ending theme for the series by then. Needless to say, it'll be interesting if this starts a "popular, modern Amercan/British(Franz is a british band right?) song as theme song" fad. I can think of a few songs that would work very well as themes, some that even seem like they should've been made theme songs for anime.

I'm downloading this one for friends who've never heard of BitTorrent, but, despite having not read the manga, I'm getting pretty excited about it myself.

Shadowmage
10-12-2005, 06:50 PM
Personally, I'm amazed at how large this thread has gotten before the first episode. I hold no expectations for this anime simply because high expectations can skew my perspective of this series. Considering this show has the same director as Beck, I'm interested to see how everything will be played out.

Tremolo
10-13-2005, 12:38 AM
I think that the art is what's got me really interested in this series. It's not too conventional, but it's clean, original, more realistic, and very appealing.

I'm really excited about hearing Franz Ferdinand's new song as the ending theme. It may actually have been made for the series. The album was just released a few weeks ago I think, and I think that they would have chosen an ending theme for the series by then. Needless to say, it'll be interesting if this starts a "popular, modern Amercan/British(Franz is a british band right?) song as theme song" fad. I can think of a few songs that would work very well as themes, some that even seem like they should've been made theme songs for anime.

I'm downloading this one for friends who've never heard of BitTorrent, but, despite having not read the manga, I'm getting pretty excited about it myself.

The wonderful Franz are indeed a British band, although Do You Want To? got a single release over here a few weeks back before the US, so I'm not sure if it was made specifically for the anime (awesome if it was though), but it's recent enough to warrant attention nonetheless. Brilliant as this is, you'll still get people moaning that anime should be kept exclusively Japanese, etc etc...

aeroshadow
10-13-2005, 06:52 AM
The wonderful Franz are indeed a British band, although Do You Want To? got a single release over here a few weeks back before the US, so I'm not sure if it was made specifically for the anime (awesome if it was though), but it's recent enough to warrant attention nonetheless. Brilliant as this is, you'll still get people moaning that anime should be kept exclusively Japanese, etc etc...That's silly. I remember when I was watching a Korean drama, and Avril Lavigne's Complicated began to play in background. I was surprised, but there was nothing really wrong. Japanese music and American music have a lot of similarities these days. Yes, having a Western insert song can be slightly unnerving at first, but it shouldn't really hurt the experience. Having it as the ending theme should give the series some interesting flavor.

Ritalin
10-13-2005, 07:22 AM
The wonderful Franz are indeed a British band, although Do You Want To? got a single release over here a few weeks back before the US, so I'm not sure if it was made specifically for the anime (awesome if it was though), but it's recent enough to warrant attention nonetheless. Brilliant as this is, you'll still get people moaning that anime should be kept exclusively Japanese, etc etc...

I personally really enjoy hearing western bands in anime. The quality is usually better (not saying Japanese music sucks! But you need to be serious: JPop, especially of the anime variety, sucks) and hits home more. Beck had a wonderful blend of American/British sound with the occassional Japanese lyrics; that really made me enjoy it.

I've never heard of this Franz Ferdinand band, but it can't be as bad as some high pitched jpop song with random nonsensical english thrown in. Can it? Not to sidetrack too much, but I would like to know which album(s) I should take interest in and obtain.

soundchazer
10-13-2005, 08:26 AM
I've never heard of this Franz Ferdinand band, but it can't be as bad as some high pitched jpop song with random nonsensical english thrown in. Can it? Not to sidetrack too much, but I would like to know which album(s) I should take interest in and obtain.

* soundchazer anoints Ritalin with the "Lived under a rock" award.

Franz Ferdinand's "Take me out" was all over the radio in 2004. Their style is dance pop/rock. Very catchy and incredibly British.

Ghostmaster
10-13-2005, 09:07 AM
I do like the opening to this anime. Is it made by the same people who did Honey and Clover? Is that why you are all talking about H & C?

Akuhei
10-13-2005, 09:10 AM
i'm not sure about that, they're talking about H&C because Paradise Kiss took over H&C's timeslot on TV in Japan.

Ghostmaster
10-13-2005, 09:12 AM
Oh thanks Akuhei :XD:

Ritalin
10-13-2005, 09:26 AM
* soundchazer anoints Ritalin with the "Lived under a rock" award.

Franz Ferdinand's "Take me out" was all over the radio in 2004. Their style is dance pop/rock. Very catchy and incredibly British.

Hardly live under a rock. I just choose not to listen to the radio because 99% of it is CRAP, or overplayed.

Well, I found quite a bit of their stuff, demos/lives and I think an album. Thanks anyway.

/edit: HAHA. On my way to the store today, I saw a poster for them on a street trashcan. Apparently they are going to be playing here. I immediatly thought of this thread... ha.

Elric
10-18-2005, 08:56 AM
Well ive seen it and I like it. I am not much on fashion (my mom is) and its something she may love and understand a lot more than me. I like the art style, though I find the deform humor to be odd (never read the manga thus far), but I find it to be potentially interesting. Went a bit slow the way I see it and the music isnt really my cup of tea also.I may enjoy it more if I watch it when all 12 episodes are out so can get into it more. It just seems that how I prefer to watch my anime. Watch it all together rather than wait a week or so. Long series are an exception.

So I did like it, and probobly hardcore fans of the manga would go "omg" on it.

Ritalin
10-18-2005, 09:54 AM
So I did like it, and probobly hardcore fans of the manga would go "omg" on it.

Yep. I did a lot of "oh my god"-ing during the first episode.

I had high expectations for this anime, and it went even higher than I thought! The opening was so damn catchy and stylish it just blew my mind. There is so much style to this anime, it compliments the manga perfectly.

There wasn't any differences from the manga that I caught, but I might watch it again later and probably will then if there is any. Thus far (which isn't much) it is being faithful to the manga. They kept the odd animation for any humorous moments, which was really nice I thought. Even when showing dresses (like Miwako's near the end) they kept the patterns the manga used.

The only thing that bothered me was Isabella's voice. Why the **** does he have a girls voice?!

Anyway... since the animation is drop-dead gorgeous, I took a few screencaps of the characters as they appear, and of course, the intro. Feel free to click for larger views.

Intro. (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/paradisekiss.png)

Yukari, the star of the show. (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/yukari.png)

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/isabella_op_thumb.png (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/isabella_op.png)
Isabella in the OP. I <3 the animation.

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/arashi_thumb.png (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/arashi.png)
Arashi! Not the best shot of him, but it was when he first appeared in the anime.

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/miwako_thumb.png (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/miwako.png)
The uber-cute, always lovable and in-pink Miwako.

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/george_thumb.png (http://caffeinated-dreams.net/paradisekiss/george.png)
George, being a pimp. A dashing young man, isn't he?

Kagome654
10-18-2005, 10:46 AM
Wow, looking good George.

I have to remind my sister that she is supposed to acquire this anime for me so I can watch it when I go home on the weekend

Tremolo
10-18-2005, 11:20 AM
* Tremolo wipes a tear from his eye in happiness at what looks set to be a near-perfect manga to anime transition

That was great.

Gorgeous animation, great seiyuu work (despite Isabella's completely un-manly voice), fantastic opening and ending themes, even a few nods to the manga's use of live action photos incorporated as backgrounds.

My only real complaint is that the timing in the comedy moments seemed a bit delayed, but it's not a big problem.

Excellent stuff.

soundchazer
10-18-2005, 11:41 AM
OMG... great episode. Very very very artsy design indeed. True to Yazawa's vision, but with that extra punch that anime provides.

The only minus (sorta) was not sticking to Yazawa's cartoonish designs, but the ones provided were cute too.

Madhouse FTW!!!

Minnie
10-18-2005, 11:48 AM
AH! I finally acquired the subbed version. Hopefully I come away from this happier than after I watched the raw, which I was quite disappointed from. D: The person who thought up of those flower and beanie baby transitions should be impaled to death! DDDD: Or slapped over the head. I don't always enjoy idiot maltreatment so a more humane way to vent my anger is much preferred...

Oh! *presses play* BB and shit.

Edit:

'kay and back. And yes, I do like it better now. I'm glad that there was still so much more riding on the dialouge than the delivery of indecipherable words I experienced from watching the raw. X33~ My main irk was the Yukari's seiyuu's ineptitude of a comical expression, initially. n_n; I've always thought that Yukari was a silly girl who donned serious airs to better fit expectations of school and family life, but was bursting at the seams with her reaction of shock and outrage when she arrives at the ParaKiss scene. The anime version of her, I felt, was much too solemn and unaffected than manga Yukari. But then I had the impression that Yukari was swept up in an emotional whirlwind where she is constantly shocked at every turn. The way she was portrayed as a spoiled brat in the anime instead of a despairing twat came up a little short. Only personal opinion.

Somebody said something was slow, delayed? Agreed, but it's not a particularly big thing. Isabella's voice, the dislike for the chibi animation versus Ai Yazawa's own, that's already mentioned. I've read in a community elsewhere that a Johnny Rotten-like voice was preferred to the current Arashi voice, but that's maybe because he was sporting a British accent in the manga. Alright, I'll admit to fantasizing about that. The translators at Tokyopop took liberties in replacing his brash street talk so I would think this was closer to what intended for him. The ending annoyed me a tad because George was a little out of character. (Oho but they played up his smarminess. XDD That was... amusing) Still! Those transitions! *throws hands up in the air*

A-R@D
10-18-2005, 03:07 PM
Finally!
Been waiting a couple weeks for this one to come out.
Intro
What can I say? Very Very Nice as far as intros go. Catching Opening Song. Brilliant Artwork. All that one could ask for, usually after the first episode I skip over intros but I probably wont for this one.
Episode
Art Work is brilliant. Check. Character design is unique and interesting. Check. Very nice voice work. Check. Interesting plot. check. Comedic moments. check. Fluid and vivid animation. Check. Not much more you can ask for in an opening episode.

Credits
Better than the intro animation even I think. Catchy song that led me to watch the credits all the way to the end.

Lets hope they keep up the good work.

soundchazer
10-18-2005, 03:14 PM
Finally!
Credits
Better than the intro animation even I think. Catchy song that led me to watch the credits all the way to the end.


I think that some Japanese producers got the right idea. Scratch the forgetable Jpop songs and go for internationally acclaimed artists and songs. First it was Duran Duran, now Franz Ferdinand.

I knew Do you want to from Franz Ferdinand was going to be a cool way to end it. I didn't expect the cartoony end though.

Ritalin
10-18-2005, 03:26 PM
The cartoony ending is the best animation ever. Ever.

I even took a screencap and used it for my new avatar. I cracked up laughing when I saw Isabella begin dancing, it just seemed so funny to see him dancing... so bam! Avatar.

soundchazer
10-18-2005, 03:29 PM
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE the cartoony ending. I was just not expecting it, nor the cartoony segments in the episode.

Neon
10-18-2005, 03:57 PM
This should be good.

Hope to catch it soon.

Sorrow-kun
10-18-2005, 03:58 PM
I think that some Japanese producers got the right idea. Scratch the forgetable Jpop songs and go for internationally acclaimed artists and songs. First it was Duran Duran, now Franz Ferdinand.Totally agree there, especially considering how well it was executed in Speed Grapher. It's seriously a refreshing change, and I hope we see more internationally recognized artists and music in anime in the future.

Anyway, the first episode is acquired. (Was acquired several hours ago, to be specific). I'll watch and comment at first oppurtunity.

Shadowmage
10-18-2005, 04:22 PM
Episode 1

This first episode is good, but sadly, I do not share the same enthusiasm as others. I admit that the anime has a great deal of potential, but there are two flaws that are glaring in the first episode. I thought that a lot of scenes felt too pedestrian espcially since most of the comedy falls flat on its face, (only the homosexual/bi jokes were funny) and furthermore, I dislike Yukari's voice. She doesn't know how to express excitement, and it feels to artificial. While this is better than overacting, I think that the leads voice is going to be the make it or break it in terms of greatness.

On another note, the animation worked a lot better than I thought. While the cartoony moments felt out of place with the sharp animation, the faces are simply lively when in normal mode.

Moe
10-18-2005, 04:57 PM
so i watched it, the beggining was totally fuking random... c'mon a giant worm ontop of a hotdog stand..... aligator crossing the street.....wtf was that.... other than that i thought it to be good.... i like george, buy is pimp.. he drives a gembala.. guy is pimp....

Gigadi
10-18-2005, 05:27 PM
While the cartoony moments felt out of place with the sharp animation
Agreed, except for the ending. Besides that I absolutly loved this episode, all the way from the eccentric characters to the beautifuly animated city.
I'm definatly gonna stick with this all the way through.

The only thing that bothered me was Isabella's voice. Why the **** does he have a girls voice?!
I thought it was a girl.

A-R@D
10-18-2005, 05:36 PM
I thought it was a girl.
you thought wrong.

Ritalin
10-18-2005, 06:36 PM
I thought it was a girl.

Nope, Isabella is a man. A cross-dresser of course. It really threw me back when I heard a woman's voice come out of his mouth.

I dislike Yukari's voice. She doesn't know how to express excitement, and it feels to artificial. While this is better than overacting, I think that the leads voice is going to be the make it or break it in terms of greatness.

Yukari isn't an exciting person, at all. That's one of the points of Paradise Kiss: Unexciting, "normal" cram school girl who obey's parents every desires, who suddenly gets thrown into the very "strange" world of the ParaKiss group. So I found the voice acting right on target. She spazzes sometimes in the manga, similar to the we see in the anime, but it really calms down later.

aeroshadow
10-18-2005, 07:07 PM
After watching the first episode myself, I think I'll have to go with Shadowmage. While it was by no means bad, there were many awkward moments that prevented me from liking it as much as I wanted to. Either way, I'm most likely going to keep following this for now, as it does have a seemingly interesting cast and setting.

*hooked on the theme song*

Itachi Uchiha
10-18-2005, 08:03 PM
Okay the things that stood out to me about this show -

- The music was good
- Characters are interesting
- Overall introduction of the show was choppy
- I didn't like the character designs all that much
- I think they over did the drama a bit
- I liked the light comedy of this show

Overall, I didn't really like the first episode much but I can see a lot of potential in the show. I will give it a few more episodes to prove to me that it's good.

Kaikyaku
10-18-2005, 10:40 PM
Just watched the first episode. I have never read the manga so I had NO idea what to expect. I was a little surprised. I thought it would be more serious than it was. I loved the character designs, though I also thought the cartoony bits were a little mismatched for the rest of the show. I'm not won over yet, but I'm interested enough to want to see the seceond episode.

fugupinkeye
10-18-2005, 11:52 PM
A fine first ep. Agreed, about Isabella, though. Something deeper, more abiguous was called for, I think. Other than that, I am quite please and have high hopes for this one.

Kitsurai
10-19-2005, 12:30 AM
Ha, I now understand why you guys have been so excited. And hell, the bi/gay jokes actually left a more "cool" impression on me. The more eccentric/colorful sides of life ftw, seriously. That Isabella dude (honestly) might just be my new anime hero x.x.

Sorrow-kun
10-19-2005, 05:19 AM
Just watched the first episode. Bear in mind, I haven't read the manga, so I don't know where this is going.

I dislike Yukari's voice. She doesn't know how to express excitement, and it feels to artificial. While this is better than overacting, I think that the leads voice is going to be the make it or break it in terms of greatness.Yukari isn't an exciting person, at all. That's one of the points of Paradise Kiss: Unexciting, "normal" cram school girl who obey's parents every desires, who suddenly gets thrown into the very "strange" world of the ParaKiss group. So I found the voice acting right on target. She spazzes sometimes in the manga, similar to the we see in the anime, but it really calms down later.Totally agree with Rit on this one. I thought the way Yukari's seiyuu approached her voice was ideal, and fits in dead perfect with the type of person Yukari is (so far).

Anyway, there's not a huge amount to comment on. I think the thing that's most impressed me so far has been the background music, and how they've not only picked the perfect times to have it on and have it off, but also picked the perfect amplitude for it to be playing at in every scene, eg, having it drone lightly in the atelier, as if it were coming from a radio quietly playing in the background.

Animation is really unique. The super-deformity more resembles something you'd expect from a Western animation.

The plot and atmosphere are, so far, giving me big huge Beck vibes. Certainly not a bad thing, since Beck has been one of the (if not the) best series I've seen of this year. The big difference so far, I think, is that Yukari isn't really gravitating towards fashion the way Koyuki almost instantly gravitated towards rock music, as if he existed to pick up the guitar. But, I somehow suspect the fashion world is going to cause changes in Yukari not totally dissimilar to changes the rock world induced in Koyuki.

Anyway, good stuff. Considering how excited people who have read the manga are about this, and how good the early vibes from it are, I think it's more than fair to have high expectations. I anticipate where this is going.

soundchazer
10-19-2005, 06:46 AM
A fine first ep. Agreed, about Isabella, though. Something deeper, more abiguous was called for, I think. Other than that, I am quite please and have high hopes for this one.

I think the whole point of using a female voice for the character is to keep the whole "is she, or is she not?" going for a while longer. While I understand Rit's frustration, she needs to bear in mind that even for those of us who read the manga, the fact that Isabella was not what we anticipated came as a shock. Using a more masculine voice would give it away immediately.

Mana
10-19-2005, 12:17 PM
Got to watch the first ep last night; I must say, I really did enjoy it. Unfortunately, I don't have too much else to add besides that, though the super-deformity of the characters seemed really out of place. That and the ending will take some getting used to.

Zee'd
10-20-2005, 09:47 AM
I just have a question: Are all anime shows about art-type students.... well .... so artsy?!??

It seems the animators are tearing themselves up trying to introduce scenes and sequences that ... well... read above.

I donno if I'm even correct, its just a feeling I got, something like Honey and Clover too...

But one thing for sure, this deserves a spot in my mountain-high "to watch" list. It sure piped my interest...

soundchazer
10-20-2005, 09:58 AM
I just have a question: Are all anime shows about art-type students.... well .... so artsy?!??


It doesn't surprise me at all. Think about it... animators are artists themselves, therefore, they know that subculture better than you and I, and they are probably given some free reign to translate their experiences to animation sequences.

Linuts
10-20-2005, 02:31 PM
It doesn't surprise me at all. Think about it... animators are artists themselves, therefore, they know that subculture better than you and I, and they are probably given some free reign to translate their experiences to animation sequences.

Damn straight. We need more anime about software engineers, coders and CS College Students like Battle Programmer What's-His-Name. :D

I kinda agree with Shadowmage. There are awkward moments but the show is interesting and damn stylish. Rockin' music too ^^.

Tyrdium
10-20-2005, 02:56 PM
Downloading now. I'll have to watch it later.

Damn straight. We need more anime about software engineers, coders and CS College Students like Battle Programmer What's-His-Name. :DBattle Programmer Shirase! Sucks that it got cancelled...

jiffyjimbothe3
10-20-2005, 03:21 PM
Wow, I wasnt exactly sure what to expect before watching this, since I had never read the manga, but I have to say, I enjoyed this quite a bit. It was originally the character designs that drew me in, but frankly, I loved almost everything about this episode. Except for the...odd beginning that I didnt quite understand and Yukari's seiyuu, while fitting her character perfectly, could have expressed more emotion at times. Miwako's seiyuu, on the other hand, was excellent, and I found her character in general to be very interesting.

I just dont think I can wait for the next episode. :whine:

Mana
10-20-2005, 08:37 PM
One interesting point that Roark made (Yes, he's liking this more than Noein), that mostly related to the whole artsy thing, is related to manga/anime conversions, not in style really, but in format. Part of what made ParaKiss so unique as a manga was the fashion detail, all of the dresses, outfits, etc. This works great in manga, partially because of the portrait format of comics/manga. However, the anime being a landscape format (wider than tall), is that it's hard to work the same kind of focus on a full-bodied character. The example that this came up in was the dress Yukari tried on in the first episode... which we barely got more than a bust shot of. I hope this is something that will be resolved, though I'd like it if there were a way to do it outside of pan shots.

soundchazer
10-20-2005, 08:58 PM
One interesting point that Roark made (Yes, he's liking this more than Noein), that mostly related to the whole artsy thing, is related to manga/anime conversions, not in style really, but in format. Part of what made ParaKiss so unique as a manga was the fashion detail, all of the dresses, outfits, etc. This works great in manga, partially because of the portrait format of comics/manga. However, the anime being a landscape format (wider than tall), is that it's hard to work the same kind of focus on a full-bodied character. The example that this came up in was the dress Yukari tried on in the first episode... which we barely got more than a bust shot of. I hope this is something that will be resolved, though I'd like it if there were a way to do it outside of pan shots.


There is always the posibility of moving the camera upwards or downwards to show the full dress. I know this type of technique worked well with Video Girl Ai, another manga with intricate clothes.

loner
10-21-2005, 01:24 AM
Yar finally saw it.

It's hmm...as good as expected it.

I've not read the manga entirely, only a couple of chapters in random order. I understand what it's about and its style. I'm happy to say that the style is mostly kept in tact. The sudden cartoonyish SD didn't bother me much, though I didn't laugh much at that either.

You can tell immediately that this anime is by the same director as Beck, without knowing it beforehand. The way the characters move, the semi-realistic background (though as told real images are used in the manga as well), the collages in the ED (not the characters on crack dancing)...it all oozes Beck's style. Some people apparently have problems with this style, though that's probably more due to Beck's inferior character designs, but anyways I love it. It engages you and draws you in.

The story itself is starts like how anybody who's read the intro for the show expects it to start. Nothing spectacular, but it works as it generates interest. And that's the important thing: it works. It doesn't has to be mindblowing, just as long as it works. Save the mindblowing for later, where it's supposed to be mindblowing.

Sorrow-kun
10-21-2005, 04:01 AM
You can tell immediately that this anime is by the same director as Beck, without knowing it beforehand.There's no doubt that there's a lot of Beck about this, style-wise, but....

* Sorrow-kun checks...

Wow. You be on the money on this one. I'm really impressed.

Datsun
10-21-2005, 04:28 AM
Well, don't I feel like the odd one out...

Having not read any of the manga beforehand or even knowing what the premise of this show was, by the end I was feeling a little ambivalent, especially compared with the lavish praise it's received so far on this thread alone. It's probably not my cup o' tea, with it being centred around fashion and all.

To me the character designs look ugly - it may be something to do with the lips, or whatever, and it's not like they grab my attention either... it may be something that I may need to get used to, but at this stage I have to agree with the few that have said that they're just sort of ugly.

I dunno, the anime itself is actually quite well done, with the backdrops being particularly well crafted, as was the case with Beck. The beginning song, was actually probably one of the better things I liked about this episode. Heck, I think the Franz Ferdinand song fits with the whole theme of the show as well, but I simply do not like Franz Ferdinand, so yeah, that doesn't help either. (Strangely I love The Killers)

I guess you can partly blame it on the really weird beginning with the random images - it just seemed far too artsy, without any real substance (just that beginning part). All in all, it's one of those weird situations where I'm pretty sure what I'm watching is good, but I just can't bring myself to like it... but we'll see if anything changes in the next few ep's.

Niner
10-21-2005, 04:37 AM
Yeah, it's definitely not my cup of tea either. The whole fashion designer thing really doesn't grab me. I'll admit, it was mildly interesting to see what the characters were like and all that jazz, but unless something happens that'll really make me want to watch it, I probably won't bother past the first few eps.

Don't really have much beyond that, as I'm staying mostly out of the hype and discussion. I do like the opening theme though. It's hella catchy. :x

soundchazer
10-21-2005, 06:16 AM
IF you think the show is about fashion alone, then you guys are misguided. Fashion is a recurring theme, like music is to Beck, but it is not the what the story is about. It is just a vehicle to tell the story.

Spilled Milk
10-21-2005, 07:32 AM
I finally saw the first episode!....all i can say is i need to whatch it again XD I kinda was rushed since i had to whatch it on my bros computer in my bed and I was in an uncomfortable position so...I didn't really get to enjoy it (spent half the episode trying to get comfortable) alot of things caught me off gaurd...like after whatching it i felt more lik "huh" then i did "OMFG THAT WAS THE SEX" O.O...lol but I stil enjoyed what I saw :). oh and for the record...I geussed isabella was a dude right away! because don't they say so right away in the manga? or yukari has that suspicion...when isabella catches her.. "is that a man?" or something like that..

Tyrdium
10-21-2005, 12:04 PM
Funkay. Not bad, just odd. Pretty fun, though; I'll keep watching it for now.

Shadowmage
10-22-2005, 06:49 PM
Episode 2

Okay, Since I did not do my TIF thing for the first episode of the series, I'll do it now.

Intro
The music is extremely catchy. It has a lot of flair and style despite the fact that most of it is synthasized. The animation accompanies the music extremely well. Much like Beck, the backgrounds are sharply drawn with a sense of depth.

Part I
To put it simply, this episode was a lot better than the first. First of all, there were more hits in the comedy than misses. Also, my pet peeve, the main character voice, has been resolved for now. While the voice actor cannot show excitement authentically, there is no great need for that this episode. Both the music and the animation are still beautiful. I'll say it once again; the faces are extremely expressive. They are superb for showing varying emotions. The only bad thing is the show's tendancy to go into super deformed form. The sharp, detailed backgrounds contrast too much with the deformed characters. Furthermore, the lines feel a little too distinctive for the anime to us super deformed characters. Ultimately, the ultimate problem with this style in this episode is the awkward transition from this to normal form.

Eyecatch
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/vlcsnap-7113625.png
Did I catch you at a bad time? O_O

Part II
The characters are starting to show more affection towards one another. While it is not as extreme as part I, the second section does a nice job giving some background information to these (new) faces. Once again, the animation is beautiful. Like many people have reiterated, the dresses are beautiful. I didn't notice until now that the animation of the clothes is pulling a "Gankutsuou." (Good thing that it is not as obtrusive as Gankutsuou...)

Eyecatch
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/vlcsnap-7114347.png
This is why you don't close your eyes for these things...

Interest 5/5
Grade 4/5

I agree with Soundchazer. This year is the greatest single year for anime. I was pretty sure of this halfway through Honey and Clover, and Paradise Kiss is only cementing my belief.

Sorrow-kun
10-22-2005, 07:24 PM
I agree with Soundchazer. This year is the greatest single year for anime. I was pretty sure of this halfway through Honey and Clover, and Paradise Kiss is only cementing my belief.Totally agree. And I haven't even seen H&C yet.

At the end of the year, when we're (inevitably) debating which was the best anime of the year, it's not going to be a contest between two anime like it was last year.

Itachi Uchiha
10-22-2005, 09:25 PM
After the second episode I’m thoroughly hooked. The long introspective moments are killing me though. I get enough of that from my own head as it is.

I've just finished cutting out the intro song from the first episode. Now I can listen to it all the time. MUAHAHAHA!!!


~bub-bye~
:dogrun:

A-R@D
10-22-2005, 11:34 PM
After the second episode I’m thoroughly hooked.

I agree. If you werent hooked from the first episode, this episode should thoroughly hook you into this series. What makes this series very special is its blend of sophisticated humor and romanic awkwardness. It makes for very interesting characters and very good suspensefull moments.

Ritalin
10-23-2005, 01:40 PM
I am so unbelievably happy at how perfect the anime follows the manga. You can read along with this anime, almost literally.

The whole anime is an eye-candy treat, is it just me, or did the animation quality improve in episode 2?

Nothing really happening, it's still building up the characters, which is the focal point of the manga. Soon though, very soon (next episode) will it get very good.

Gigadi
10-23-2005, 01:44 PM
LOVE IT!!
Thos is the big thing now, for me at least. I can only reitterate how beautiful the animation is, and whit a 13 epsiode series their budget shoudn't get flimsy.

Dirty Harry
10-23-2005, 06:03 PM
I couldn't get past the OP.

It was so boring that I gave up right there. It gave me that "Emma feeling" I got before, and in the end Emma didn't leave me feeling good.

Gigadi
10-23-2005, 06:55 PM
I couldn't get past the OP.

You are 1 in a 1,000,000. I in no way see anything boring about the OP. I can name off a hundreds of songs that make this see like a Lil' Jon track.

A-R@D
10-23-2005, 07:00 PM
The Emma OP boring? Really? I enjoyed the emma OP!

Seriously though are we talking about the same anime?

Dirty Harry
10-23-2005, 07:05 PM
The Emma OP boring? Really? I enjoyed the emma OP!

Seriously though are we talking about the same anime?

Nah, it wasn't the OP in Emma that gave me the feeling. It was right after, when she was sweeping. But the OP to ParaKiss gave me the same feeling as Emma sweeping, no joke. A sort of apathy torwards the whole afair. But I stuck it out for Emma, I'll probably let ParaKiss break my heart as well in due time.

A-R@D
10-23-2005, 07:11 PM
Oh ok, I guess I misunderstood.

I dont know. Paradise kiss' opening seems pretty standard as far as ops go. Not fantastic by any means but nor horrible either.

soundchazer
10-23-2005, 11:26 PM
Episode 2:

For some reason I think that those who had their misgivings in regards to episode 1 will have this as their "make or break" episode, or at least, I think this should be it.

I think the execution in this one was much better than on the first one, and they decided to go less "super deformed" and had those moments be more appropriate.

The way I see it, if you didn't like this episode, you should be better off dropping this anime.

BTW, am I the only one who finds both the character design and voice acting for Miwako to be just lovely?

Kitsurai
10-24-2005, 12:20 AM
BTW, am I the only one who finds both the character design and voice acting for Miwako to be just lovely?
Am I the only one who (seriously) kinda has a hard time concentrating on the subtitles (everything's just too pretty x.x)? Simply must learn the language...

Mana
10-24-2005, 05:56 AM
I must agree with SC, I couldn't help myself from making cute faces at least half the time Miwako was talking. I can't believe Marika hasn't done much more voice acting.

Though, I must say, I'm still waiting for them to find a better way to show off the outfits; we barely got to see much of Yukari's dress again, at least not in SD form.

Speaking of which, I'm very glad there was less of it this time. It just doesn't transition well, and I'm having a hard time liking it at all. It fits for the ED, but during the show...

Ritalin
10-24-2005, 08:14 AM
Aww, I really like the SD moments. They don't bother me at all. I think they work well because then it isn't an overload of pretty animation. Plus the SD does match with the manga (the manga had more, if I recall correctly).

Am I the only one who (seriously) kinda has a hard time concentrating on the subtitles (everything's just too pretty x.x)? Simply must learn the language...

Yeah, kind of. I keep having to rewind at some points because I realized I wasn't reading the subtitles, and instead completly focused on the animation. I'm a fast reader, too...

Mana
10-24-2005, 08:26 AM
The SD fit better in the manga though; it tended to flow and transition better. There are a few good SD parts I've seen in the anime so far, but a lot of them seem really disjointed, at least to me.

Kagome654
10-24-2005, 03:49 PM
Arrgh, sorry to bump, but I was able to see the first episode at last over the weekend. Curse my craptastic computer...

Anyway, I agree with most of the positive comments the series has received thus far, great music, interesting character designs, etc....but I have to admit there were a few things that didn’t quite sit right. Most of them are personal preferences however, like the fact that I thought the anime seemed awfully...quiet at times. I’m used to having annoying background music all the time, so to hear an anime that relies heavily on silence (much of the time) seemed...eerie. Though I suppose I’ll get used to it. Also, I agree with the those who said Yukari’s voice lacked emotion sometimes, but I think what was worse was that the confrontation between Arashi and Yukari lacked a lot of the drama it had in the manga because BOTH of them lacked emotion. Arashi’s anger, which was perfectly justified in the manga due to Yukari’s condescending attitude, seemed more like misplaced annoyance in the anime. Thus I think a lot of the impact of her aplogizing later was lost because without a ‘stuck up tone’ (not to mention they didn’t include a lot of her more biting inner dialogue) it didn’t seem like she was really swallowing her pride and feeling genuinelly humbled like she seemed to be in the manga.

This is me being an anal manga fan though. The point is that I enjoyed the anime a great deal, especially the ending sequences. Most of the voice acting is great, especially Miwako and George, and I like the weird humour and seemingly randomly placed SD moments. I'm really looking forward to the next episode...

...I can't believe I'm an episode behind ^^;;;

Kaikyaku
10-26-2005, 01:09 AM
I just watched the second ep, and I am hooked. I have joined the 'gotta show off my fandom' club with a new sig. (not a good one, but whatever)

I wasn't sold on the first episode, but this one had me thinking and smiling the whole way through. It was so much smoother this time around. The transitions didn't bother me like they did before (the flowers and the weird animals). The only thing I didn't like was the super deformed bit. The characters looked out of place, especially since some were deformed and some weren't. And then the transition back to normal looked like a tranformation. But overall this is a small negative. I really liked episode two and I will definetly be following this further, time permitting. Ahhh, why does there have to be so many good series to watch!

Lavi
10-26-2005, 03:44 PM
...Anyone notice the huge surge in Paradise Kiss sigs? They're everywhere now. I'm surprised that a club hasn't been made yet.

Kagome654
10-26-2005, 03:48 PM
Yeah, I was considering making a ParaKiss sig, but a) I lack the skills b) I like my crummy Justice League themed sigs ^^ Some of those Paradise Kiss sigs are adorable though.

Speaking of which, I like your Boondocks avatar. I wish I got Cartoon Network so I could see the show when it comes out...

Sorrow-kun
10-26-2005, 03:58 PM
...Anyone notice the huge surge in Paradise Kiss sigs?Notice them? How can you not? Seriously, AA has the single biggest concentration of ParaKiss fans on the internet.

Ritalin
10-26-2005, 04:31 PM
...Anyone notice the huge surge in Paradise Kiss sigs? They're everywhere now. I'm surprised that a club hasn't been made yet.

I would change mine, but can't until after Halloween. SC threatened me if my sig is changed.

So I am using an avatar I vectored instead. Go go Isabella! Donce!

Gigadi
10-26-2005, 05:17 PM
I wanted to make a ParaKiss sig but I don't know how to do all that fancy stuff of even what a vector is.

I did make a new H&C one though.

Tyrdium
10-26-2005, 08:24 PM
I finally got a chance to watch the second episode. I'm hooked! This show is way too pretty to have to read subtitles for, unfortunately.

loner
10-27-2005, 12:10 AM
Notice them? How can you not? Seriously, AA has the single biggest concentration of ParaKiss fans on the internet.

Yep, and the fact that after only 2 episodes this thread already has 100 posts attest to that.

Anyways, I enjoyed ep. 2 more than ep. 1. I didn't mention this in my earlier post, but there were times when the scenes doesn't seem to flow well. But it's much better this episode. The SD transformation, while cut down by a lot this episode, is horrible IMO when they did it. It was much worse than ep.1, as it just seem extremely unnatural.

But then these are technical nitpickings. The story is moving along well. George is pwning this show all by himself. The way he played Yukari around in the library is genius.

Arashi is such a lolicon.

mmyy
10-29-2005, 03:15 AM
Most of them are personal preferences however, like the fact that I thought the anime seemed awfully...quiet at times. I’m used to having annoying background music all the time, so to hear an anime that relies heavily on silence (much of the time) seemed...eerie.

That's how I felt watching ParaKiss too. But instead of "annoying bgm", it was more like I got too used to Hachikuro's beautiful music. Shucks.

That aside, I'm still loving the show. Did anyone else noticed "Beck" on Yukari's bag in episode 2, shown close-up when she walked towards George outside the library? Adorable! :D

Gigadi
11-02-2005, 02:55 PM
When exactly does this show air? It feels like I wait two weeks for a speed sub.

Ritalin
11-03-2005, 10:03 PM
Episode 3 took awhile to be subbed, 4 should be airing tonight.

That was a really good episode. I'm trying not to fangirl, but the plot finally picked up in this episode as I thought it would. :)

Did anyone else see the "woot" on Yukari's cell phone when she was laying on the bed?

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/parakisswoot.jpg

Resized to make it more visable. You can clearly see it in fullscreen. God, I'm such a geek. -_-

soundchazer
11-03-2005, 10:24 PM
Well... re reading manga vol 1, it seems they took 3 episodes to finish it. And yes, it picks up from here quite a bit.

A-R@D
11-03-2005, 10:36 PM
Another good episode. I don't know the romance hit me kind of suddley if you know what I mean. Usualy there is a little more build up to that sort of stuff, its actually kind of refreshing that there isnt as much.

edit BTW: http://freality.org/~pablo/essays/w00t.html -History of w00t

C0MPL3X
11-04-2005, 02:41 PM
finished watching episode 3.

Several things I noticed:
- I did like the voice-overs before the opening song, and I was bit pissed when it was short
- animation to cartoony figure transition is becoming more natural, like Mana said, there were definitey places where this was not fluid like that ok in FLCL.
- feels like this episode is doing way too much of those 'flowers' between scenes.
- is it only me, or this series doesn't have very fluid animation? especially in the kissing scenes when your concentration becomes sharp.

Maybe I should've downloaded mushishi instead...but let's see...:/

Nicotine
11-04-2005, 02:59 PM
finished watching episode 3.

Several things I noticed:
- I did like the voice-overs before the opening song, and I was bit pissed when it was short
- animation to cartoony figure transition is becoming more natural, like Mana said, there were definitey places where this was not fluid like that ok in FLCL.
- feels like this episode is doing way too much of those 'flowers' between scenes.
- is it only me, or this series doesn't have very fluid animation? especially in the kissing scenes when your concentration becomes sharp.

Maybe I should've downloaded mushishi instead...but let's see...:/


The flower things make me want to rip my hair out, very vexing.

Now, I must go watch episode 3...

Shadowmage
11-04-2005, 05:44 PM
Episode 3

Like many people, I hated the scene transitions... Wait, I've always disliked them. One problem with this series is that some moments feel forced. Maybe it is the obtrusive jump from normal animation to super-deformed, but something feels wrong. Anways, I like the direction the show is going. It seems that the characters are more intricately connected that originally anticipated. I just hope they cover everything in 13 episodes.

Note: Is the four leaf clover at the end of the intro song a homage to Honey and Clover or is it just part of the original manga?

Nicotine
11-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Hmm. I rather liked episode 3. It still has the transistion flaws but they weren't as frequent. I didn't like the part where they were walking down the street though. Half of time they were talking the camera was on random people ^^;.
I like where the story's going, really interesting. I think Yukari and George are moving a bit...fast though. (I want to see more Isabella ;__; )

Sorrow-kun
11-04-2005, 07:01 PM
Did anyone else see the "woot" on Yukari's cell phone when she was laying on the bed?

http://caffeinated-dreams.net/parakisswoot.jpg

Resized to make it more visable. You can clearly see it in fullscreen. God, I'm such a geek. -_-Seriously, Rit. That's bad.

Anyway, I think it more looks like "voet".

3 eps, and we haven't quite yet been shown anything really amazing in the story or the characters except that, as SM mentioned, they're more intricately connected than we originally anticipated. And George knows what he wants, and how to go about getting it. That I can respect. The pacing's been fair so far. Still early days, though, and it hasn't done a lot wrong so far. But, it still hasn't shown much of its hand either.

I think there are two places where this could trip up: if it waits too long to show its hand, or if the hand ends up being crap. But, considering the hype from the fans of the manga, I seriously doubt the second will happen. But, then again, I've been burned by hype before.

Mana
11-05-2005, 08:17 AM
Note: Is the four leaf clover at the end of the intro song a homage to Honey and Clover or is it just part of the original manga?The 4-leaf clover is a painting that is hanging up in the atellier. Seeing as I can't think of a simgle reason why ParaKiss would be homaging H&C, I'll just say you're crazy and move on.

Enjoyed Episode 3 :3 I honestly don't mind the transitions as much as I mind the SD-ness, but the SD-ness in this one was done really well. I loved the Lupin Arashi.

And don't worry, Yukari and George have 10 more episodes to get things where I need to be. I actually liked the fact in the manga (and am now liking it in the anime), that the romance plays by different rules than your typical romance genre anime/manga/novel/whatever. The quickness of the beginning and how it goes on from here (I won't say anything) make it less predicatable and more fun than most romance.

loner
11-05-2005, 09:40 AM
Well there is actually a very good reason why they would homage H&C. ParaKiss succeeded H&C's time slot.

Mana
11-05-2005, 10:25 AM
Well there is actually a very good reason why they would homage H&C. ParaKiss succeeded H&C's time slot.
I wouldn't exactly call that a very good reason... unless that sort of thing happens a lot, I wouldn't really know.

Ritalin
11-05-2005, 11:01 PM
Well there is actually a very good reason why they would homage H&C. ParaKiss succeeded H&C's time slot.

I don't see how/why this would be a homage to H&C, since there are plenty of flowers/plant designs scattered throughout the parakiss world it is more likely just decoration.

However another forums pointed this out, it's Ryu and his dog Beck!
http://caffeinated-dreams.net/screenshots/bscap001.jpg

Datsun
11-05-2005, 11:59 PM
I don't see how/why this would be a homage to H&C, since there are plenty of flowers/plant designs scattered throughout the parakiss world it is more likely just decoration.

However another forums pointed this out, it's Ryu and his dog Beck!


No it's not! It looks like a chick, and that doesn't even look like his dog Beck either... or are you taking the piss from the "H&C homage" post?

loner
11-06-2005, 12:25 AM
Heh if she is, I can find her the scene with a bag that actually says Beck on it.

Meh, I don't see it as a big deal we must argue over. If it's not, it's not. If it is, there's the reason for it.

Kaikyaku
11-06-2005, 01:06 AM
Ep 3 was very interesting. I also think that everything is moving a little fast with regards to the romance, but I'm willing to stick with it and see how it plays out. The SD was a lot more subtle in this episode, which I liked a lot more. I love the little details in the animation, especially Yukari's blushing. I agree that Miwako's voice acting is superb, as is pretty much the whole cast! Oh, and Takumori-kun is so cute! I really want to know more about Isabella!

I loved the Lupin Arashi.I thought he was Nabashin. But you are probably right...

C0MPL3X
11-06-2005, 02:38 AM
Yes, more Isabella. She seemed like a mysterious and interesting gir, er I mean, man in episode1. So far, he is by far the most boring character. His significance in this anime is as big as Yukari's brother. Visually interesting, nothing much more. Even the way she, er he is talking/moving is not that interesting.

Kitsurai
11-06-2005, 09:00 AM
She has a brother? O.o? Oh yeah, it was that kid that reminded me of myself at that age =D.
* Kitsurai demands more Isabella.

Yeah, I'd agree that everything was a little "err slow down a bit, we've only known each other for like, what, forty-five minutes?" romance and drama wise. I'll keep trusting you manga prophets though, y'all are just so much more refined than me anyway ;D.

Gigadi
11-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Ep 3 was very interesting. I also think that everything is moving a little fast with regards to the romance, but I'm willing to stick with it and see how it plays out. The SD was a lot more subtle in this episode, which I liked a lot more. I love the little details in the animation, especially Yukari's blushing. I agree that Miwako's voice acting is superb, as is pretty much the whole cast! Oh, and Takumori-kun is so cute! I really want to know more about Isabella!

I thought he was Nabashin. But you are probably right...

I've seen people that don't know each other hook up. It's like the beginning of something big.
Anyways, this had been the best of all 3, the SD moments worked well and the transistions didn't bother me at all. The only thing I can complain about, is that when I see other series they all look so ugly in comparison. It's like I like moving back to Shreveport after live in Atlanta. BLEH! But really, it's very tue that Isebella hasn't gotten enough time, so little to the fact that if it had not been for you guys Isebella would be a tall girl.

Moe
11-06-2005, 06:44 PM
arashi is the greatest person evers!!!
episode 3 made my day... esp when arashi... at the end... yeah.....

A-R@D
11-11-2005, 03:20 AM
Episode 4:

Another great episode.

We get a glimpse of Miwakos sister. George and Yukari's relationship deepens as well.

Im sort of suprised that this is only going to be 13 episodes. It seems like this would work better at a 15-18 episode length series but I guess that would stop it short in the middle of a season.

Yukari's mom seems even meaner than I imagined her in the manga.

soundchazer
11-11-2005, 03:57 AM
One thing the subbers made a HUGE mistake about was Mikako's signature word when she is leaving in a hurry: "WARP!" They didn't put anything as she said it. That comes from the "prequel" to Paradise Kiss: Gokinjo Monogatari (Neighborhood story)

Ritalin
11-11-2005, 08:50 AM
One thing the subbers made a HUGE mistake about was Mikako's signature word when she is leaving in a hurry: "WARP!" They didn't put anything as she said it. That comes from the "prequel" to Paradise Kiss: Gokinjo Monogatari (Neighborhood story)

Yeah, I noticed that too.

I think the 13 episodes fits well, the pacing is dead on so far. That's something I'm really liking, things are moving fast. Not fast to the point where things feel rushed, but fast to understand what Yukari feels. It's also in George's nature to hurry into things, as he sort of explained in this episode.

Now to wait for episode 5 to be subbed.

Shadowmage
11-11-2005, 02:53 PM
Episode 4

This show is getting better every episode. The balance between comedy and drama is getting better. I wonder where this anime will end...

Kaikyaku
11-12-2005, 12:07 AM
Ep 4: Another pretty solid episode. Yukari surprised me quite a few times! I still think they are going way too fast... I liked the new characters that were introduced. I was wondering if the two pink sisters have the same voice actress... They sounded quite similar. I was hoping when Isabella was talking to Yukari that we would find out more about *him*, but no such luck.

I finally heard the ending theme on the radio today, and I haven't been able to get it out of my head! I didn't care for it at first, but now I really like it.

Nicotine
11-12-2005, 12:44 AM
I was hoping when Isabella was talking to Yukari that we would find out more about *him*, but no such luck.


Me too. I want to know more about him. I don't like how he's just there, but maybe that will change later.

Anyway, it was a great episode, less funky transitions. I still think they're moving pretty fast but I can kind of understand that...I mean Yukari's been sheltered for so long she's never done all these things before.

C0MPL3X
11-12-2005, 12:56 AM
*half an hour ago*
C0MPL3X: 30s...20s!...25s...-.-...20...15...5...o yea! (go go my connection)

By far my favourite episode.
I can live with Isabella being a mere cross-dressing comedy relief (?). She doesn't seem like this 'mysterious' person I thought sh...he was in the first episode.

Useful words I've learnt from this episode:
'Do you want to do hentai-play?'
'Where do you want to do it, park, roof or cemetry?'<---on the 3rd date. Apparently chicks like it.

And this episode was actually funny.

Liegenschonheit
11-12-2005, 01:54 AM
I personally really like Isabella. She/he is very much like the character in the manga, and has always been one of my favourites, despite the gag that she/he doesn't get enough time in the actual story.

On another note, they can't sub this fast enough for me! I want the next episode now! Seriously, this anime is fantastic. The characters, the art, everything is right on target, and the soundtrack is so awesome. If things keep going the way they have been, I may just have to update my top ten at the end of the season.

But I suppose that remains to be seen.

soundchazer
11-12-2005, 04:01 AM
Actually, that gag is also present in the manga, and if they keep things like in the manga, good things will come to those who wait.

FYI... I really love the anime, but it won't probably be a "top 10" changer for me.

aeroshadow
11-12-2005, 10:40 AM
I've been following along, and enjoying it. The unorthodox art style doesn't bother me anymore, and the characters are all so deep and lovable... except for as the rest of you guys said, Isabella. He definitely isn't getting enough screen time, and I still feel as if he's a stranger.

Perhaps it's meant to be?

Good episode.

C0MPL3X
11-12-2005, 01:42 PM
characters are all so deep and lovable...
xD the very notion of Miwako being deep makes me want to laugh. She's an adorable little thing though, very interesting, the things she says and the way she says wins over the viewer's hearts. And the chemistry between George and Yukari is...interesting...

And I don't think Isabella is necessarily a bad thing. I just had the wrong impression of h..im in the first episode and that bothered me until now. I now have a good idea of who he is and I don't think that will change (although me no read manga...)

Another important thing I wanted to mention for a long time but still kept forgetting.
Beck was about music and the anime explored it extremely well. I started to look for some rock music after watching Beck, all I used to listen were Classical.
Parakiss is not about fashion, like Beck was about music...for now. They don't spend as nearly as much time and effort on fashion as Beck did on music. While people like me would be engaged into the beauty and energy of rock music (perhaps that was also what the anime tried to do, show all viewers that rock music rocks!), Parakiss shows nothing interesting about fashion for me. It's just another job. It TELLS me that it is an interesting job (from Yukari's convo with Miwako and George), but it doesn't make me FEEL why it's so interesting. And that to me is disappointing. I was looking for something more than a high schooler dealing with issues like relationship and study. It would have been FANTASTIC if Yukari choose to come to Atelier because she likes fashion, not just because she wants to be with these people and George.

But that might change, who knows. Although bit too late. It's a pretty little anime but I still don't see what's so amazing about it. Maybe I'm not into love love pinky type of animes.

otaku
11-12-2005, 01:49 PM
i'm usually not this excited about an anime, but Paradse Kiss got me hooked when i read the manga, now i cant stop checking to see if any new episodes have been put up.
and also i have to say that they did a pretty good job at keeping the characters appearance the same, except for arashi...

A-R@D
11-12-2005, 11:13 PM
xD the very notion of Miwako being deep makes me want to laugh. She's an adorable little thing though, very interesting, the things she says and the way she says wins over the viewer's hearts. And the chemistry between George and Yukari is...interesting...

And I don't think Isabella is necessarily a bad thing. I just had the wrong impression of h..im in the first episode and that bothered me until now. I now have a good idea of who he is and I don't think that will change (although me no read manga...)

Another important thing I wanted to mention for a long time but still kept forgetting.
Beck was about music and the anime explored it extremely well. I started to look for some rock music after watching Beck, all I used to listen were Classical.
Parakiss is not about fashion, like Beck was about music...for now. They don't spend as nearly as much time and effort on fashion as Beck did on music. While people like me would be engaged into the beauty and energy of rock music (perhaps that was also what the anime tried to do, show all viewers that rock music rocks!), Parakiss shows nothing interesting about fashion for me. It's just another job. It TELLS me that it is an interesting job (from Yukari's convo with Miwako and George), but it doesn't make me FEEL why it's so interesting. And that to me is disappointing. I was looking for something more than a high schooler dealing with issues like relationship and study. It would have been FANTASTIC if Yukari choose to come to Atelier because she likes fashion, not just because she wants to be with these people and George.

But that might change, who knows. Although bit too late. It's a pretty little anime but I still don't see what's so amazing about it. Maybe I'm not into love love pinky type of animes.

I think as later episodes may show, Miwako is a little deeper that you give her credit for. Also Parakiss is not so much about fashon so much as fashon is a vehicle for romance to occur.

C0MPL3X
11-13-2005, 12:18 AM
think as later episodes may show, Miwako is a little deeper that you give her credit for.
That's good, I like surprises in anime, heh.

Also Parakiss is not so much about fashon so much as fashon is a vehicle for romance to occur.
If that is true, then yes, this anime doesn't use the element of fashion like Beck used the element of rock music. And again, that is a lil disappointing for me because I was hoping that this anime could introduce me to some of the fascinating aspects of fashion. I'd rather have the element of fashion as a core theme (like music was in Beck) and romance as a bonus. Is my taste in anime bit annoying? Maybe xD.

This is what happens when I don't watch manga and expect something that just won't happen.

Linuts
11-13-2005, 09:21 AM
FYI... I really love the anime, but it won't probably be a "top 10" changer for me.

I agree. While everything so far seems good... There's still something missing. Not sure what that is. Maybe I still can't get past the awkward use of chibis.

aeroshadow
11-13-2005, 10:01 AM
While I love the show, it seems to be lacking some sort of "passion". I'm talking about loving the characters and setting so much that when a groundbreaking event happens, I'm forced to genuinely smile, cry, or uh... squeal in delight. That kind of thing. XD

I just can't see myself doing "that kind of thing" in response to this anime... but only four episodes have been released. There's still a lot more to go, and things are excellent so far.

That being said, this romance isn't my style. It's certainly not bad, and I'd be lying if I said the chemistry between George and Yukari wasn't interesting. However, I prefer romances that are more "shy," where the first kiss has much more of an impact. The romance in ParaKiss reminds me of a movie called Shakespeare in Love. I hated that movie.

soundchazer
11-13-2005, 10:41 AM
I like the chemistry between those two. I think that unlike other anime, this one shows something a bit different. A more primal type of attraction, where you can see it is not good for you, but you keep wanting more. The thing that IMHO is annoying the heck out of me at this point is the acting of Caroline's (yes, I prefer to call her that) seiyuu. For some odd reason, what worked well for the first episode is killing the character right now.

It is almost like complete monotone.

MirMir
11-15-2005, 06:58 PM
I've never seen this before. Sounds pretty interesting tho. I shall have to go and check it out.

Mana
11-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Am I really the first to post about Episode 5? Joy T__T I'm almost always a few days behind on this kind of thing...

Not that I have much to add >>;;

Twas a good episode though :3 Neat to see Arashi's apartment, and nice to see him by himself for a bit as well. We also get an eyecatch!

I suppose my main thoughts on this episode were along the lines of: "I wish my running away attempts worked that well -_-;;;"

Tyrdium
11-19-2005, 09:40 PM
Bah! You beat me by about an hour and a half!

Anyway, I loved this episode. Mikako is awesome.:D

Hrm, tempted to buy the Franz Ferdinand CDs...

Nicotine
11-19-2005, 10:17 PM
Am I really the first to post about Episode 5? Joy T__T I'm almost always a few days behind on this kind of thing...

Not that I have much to add >>;;

Twas a good episode though :3 Neat to see Arashi's apartment, and nice to see him by himself for a bit as well. We also get an eyecatch!

I suppose my main thoughts on this episode were along the lines of: "I wish my running away attempts worked that well -_-;;;"


I agree with you XD.

Anyway, nice episode. I can't wait to see how the modeling goes. This show's improved greatly from episode one.

A-R@D
11-19-2005, 10:53 PM
Episode 5.

Standard Fare, we see that caroline (yukari) at least has some motivation to do something. Of course, no one gets that much special treatment if they run away from home usually. I mean how many people can luck into a job like that or to find a place to stay without having to pay any rent? Even friends won't go through that much trouble to help someone out, they might let you stay for a couple nights but that is usually pushing it.

Lurker
11-19-2005, 11:34 PM
Standard Fare, we see that caroline (yukari) at least has some motivation to do something. Of course, no one gets that much special treatment if they run away from home usually. I mean how many people can luck into a job like that or to find a place to stay without having to pay any rent? Even friends won't go through that much trouble to help someone out, they might let you stay for a couple nights but that is usually pushing it.

Its an anime and they only have 13 episodes to tell the story, so who needs to piddle around with details?

Kitsurai
11-20-2005, 02:18 AM
5:

Heh, TIF and I were condoling each other about how, compared to other aspects of the show (which are fantastic), the romance hit us like a car accident. You manga-maniacs seem to have the upper-hand here, I'm afraid. SC's view makes it an easier pill to swallow, though. Perhaps because of the break from the CarriexGeorge stuff, this episode felt relatively smooth and pretty humorous, but my god I REALLY WISH I ***DAMN KNEW ***DAMN JAPAPNESE ***DAMNIT. I seriously feel like I'm only enjoying this to 25% of its full potential thanks to the fact that my eyes are constantly being diverted by the english words and the fact that there are words being stamped on the scenery. Thinking about this really pisses me off, so maybe one of you enlightened souls can teach me how to turn that anger into learning a language. x.x

Bear with me, I've been told I need to post more. =P

Oh and ooh about Yukari's luck in her situation...well all I know is in my life, sometimes things just, ehh, "fit" when changes occur. Vague huh, well the point is, I don't know, the way she just magically slinked into that job and her friend's apartments could be considered reminiscent for me. To me, everything that's happening to her (besides the thing I mentioned above) moves very naturally, even though it may seem contrived to some. Maybe it's just relative perception, and I'm just a lucky little moved-on-up-from-Houston-to-Colorado-Springs child.

A-R@D
11-20-2005, 11:51 PM
5:

Heh, TIF and I were condoling each other about how, compared to other aspects of the show (which are fantastic), the romance hit us like a car accident. You manga-maniacs seem to have the upper-hand here, I'm afraid. SC's view makes it an easier pill to swallow, though. Perhaps because of the break from the CarriexGeorge stuff, this episode felt relatively smooth and pretty humorous, but my god I REALLY WISH I ***DAMN KNEW ***DAMN JAPAPNESE ***DAMNIT. I seriously feel like I'm only enjoying this to 25% of its full potential thanks to the fact that my eyes are constantly being diverted by the english words and the fact that there are words being stamped on the scenery. Thinking about this really pisses me off, so maybe one of you enlightened souls can teach me how to turn that anger into learning a language. x.x

Bear with me, I've been told I need to post more. =P

Oh and ooh about Yukari's luck in her situation...well all I know is in my life, sometimes things just, ehh, "fit" when changes occur. Vague huh, well the point is, I don't know, the way she just magically slinked into that job and her friend's apartments could be considered reminiscent for me. To me, everything that's happening to her (besides the thing I mentioned above) moves very naturally, even though it may seem contrived to some. Maybe it's just relative perception, and I'm just a lucky little moved-on-up-from-Houston-to-Colorado-Springs child.


I guess some people are lucky that way. Especially if you're hawt.

Lurker
11-21-2005, 02:18 AM
Franz Ferdinand has, of course, had the song "Do You Wanna?" out for quite a while now. But am I the only one who geeked out a bit when I heard it played as bumper music (before and after commercial breaks) during an NFL Football game today?

The best surprises really are the ones who were completely not expecting.

C0MPL3X
11-21-2005, 05:29 AM
what a boring episode.

What Yukari did was probably naive but o well...

Pretty factor is beginning to wear off...

soundchazer
11-21-2005, 12:06 PM
Actually I liked this episode (5) better than some of the others. I think it is important from the plot standpoint. And while the decision may be naive, it is not different from that made by scores of teens every year.

C0MPL3X
11-21-2005, 01:53 PM
And while the decision may be naive, it is not different from that made by scores of teens every year.

True true. I hope there are consequences later in the anime...or not. There probably won't be.

I don't exactly know how significance this episode was in terms of plot, this series just feel so slow (without being too boring though, characters are flashy) and [monotonous]. I don't think there was any change in emotional level when I'm watching this show.

soundchazer
11-21-2005, 02:40 PM
Even without reading the manga, this is an important episode

Caroline decides to change her life, and destiny kind of pushes her in the same direction other people saw her going beforehand. She actually decided that if her figure played a part in her becoming a model, she was going to use it in her advantage.

Now we will see the effect her decision has on her life. And believe me... it gets saucy ;)

Datsun
11-22-2005, 01:50 AM
ep 5.
I've changed my viewpoint only somewhat on this title since ep 1, though thankfully it's for the good. I think credit does need to be given for the sheer uniqueness of this anime as the characters are all atypical, and the way the romance has been played out certainly what you're used to seeing. Heck, I even have the Franz Ferdinand song in my head now. (which if you're wonderin, I declared I didn't even like before)

But for a 13 episode series this has been slow as hell so far. I think this episode advanced things nicely, but it just seems overall there hasn't been a lot happening.

HidekiMotosuwa
11-24-2005, 01:03 AM
I have both the opening song and ending songs embedded in my head now too (which is great since I like them both) I love this anime so far the characters, story, and art are actually making it so that I have to get teh manga too and read it. My only gripe is that the weird deformed version of George makes it seem like he belongs more on Sholin ShowDown and not Paradise Kiss :P Weird art comparasion for that eh?:art:

Liegenschonheit
11-24-2005, 01:45 AM
ep 5.
But for a 13 episode series this has been slow as hell so far. I think this episode advanced things nicely, but it just seems overall there hasn't been a lot happening.

Actually, this anime is pretty much right on track with where it ought to be. Keep in mind that this manga series is only five volumes long, and while on the surface there isn't a whole lot "happening", the important things are the changes and growing that Yukari goes through with her decisions, her relationship with George, and her relationship with her mother. This isn't an "omg all this action happens so fast!" sort of story, it's really just a coming of age and a pivotal moment in one person's life.

Gigadi
11-24-2005, 07:46 PM
I really liked this episdoe, it's a bright change for the series. I think Caroline's new personality will generate more enjoyment for fans. I mst admit that she was a bit annoying at first, but shes in certainly more of a free spirit now. Now it's time for her VA to liven up.

Lurker
11-25-2005, 04:25 AM
Episode 6:

Everything about this episode was done well. The modeling scenes were quite realistic looking, especially Yukari's facial expressions. As for the rest, well, that's about how those things should go. Tasteful, elegant, and silly. I have one question: I thought Miwako, Arashi, and Hiro-kun were all more or less a broken up trio what with Arashi's demands about Miwako not seeing Hiro anymore. A couple of episodes ago, Arashi would have been mad if he found out that Miwako had seen Hiro. In this episode, it doesn't seem as though any of that was really important.

Was I just taking things too literally at face value or did something happen in a transitional way that I missed?

Ritalin
11-25-2005, 04:41 AM
Episode 6 is probably my favorite thus far. This part of the manga is what I remember most about Paradise Kiss. Seeing the model shoot in animation made me say "holy shit" out loud at how beautiful it was in color. Thank you madhouse!

I loved the Franz Ferdinand posters all over Yukari's wall too. I saw it in the background and then a few minutes later there was a close up. :)

I have one question: I thought Miwako, Arashi, and Hiro-kun were all more or less a broken up trio what with Arashi's demands about Miwako not seeing Hiro anymore. A couple of episodes ago, Arashi would have been mad if he found out that Miwako had seen Hiro. In this episode, it doesn't seem as though any of that was really important.

Was I just taking things too literally at face value or did something happen in a transitional way that I missed?

Remember, that was back when they were all children. They haven't seen eachother in years. Arashi and Hiro get along fine, the problem was they both liked Miwako years ago and became rivals so to speak.

Arashi isn't the type to hold a grudge, and Miwako also exagerates a lot with her child-like personality. Hiro seems to more uptight about the whole thing though.

Sorrow-kun
11-25-2005, 07:17 AM
Agree with Rit's sentiment. This has been the best episode to date. Past the obvious that have already been tacitly mentioned, the thing I enjoyed about this episode was some insight into how Yukari's relationship with her mother has developed over the years. I'm looking forward to how the (inevitable) confrontation between her and her mother will play out.

... HOORAY FOR MATURELY HANDLED RELATIONSHIPS IN ANIME!

Moe
11-25-2005, 07:53 AM
episode 6, for second there i thought this would turn into a light hentai.. or ecchi at least.. but then i i said to myslef,"nah, that wont happen." Although there was a scene where they... yeah... other than that, model scene was great, is it me or does everyone think this, miwako's sister and miwako's sister's husband looks like they're still in their twenties?

Nicotine
11-25-2005, 03:40 PM
I loved episode 6! The modeling part was awsome and the steamy scenes between George and Yukari were really well done. I can't wait 'till the next episode, I feel as if they're not releasing fast enough XD.

I was reading some stuff about the show on Anime News Network. They said the lady in the billboard in the opening sequence is the lady who does Yukari's voice. I thought that was neat ^^;.

A-R@D
11-25-2005, 04:03 PM
Episode Six was well done. I particularly enjoyed the fashon part of it in the begining. The fashon in this show is so good, I almost want them to show more of it at the expense of other plot elements. Also in this episode, the seiyu work of Yukari picks up a little bit from the blandness of earier episodes.

fugupinkeye
11-25-2005, 08:30 PM
Really enjoyed ep6. But the model shoot scenes with Mikako makes me really wish someone would sub Gokinjo Monogatari.

Tyrdium
11-25-2005, 08:49 PM
Bishie sparkle powaa!
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1203/bishsprk1mr.jpg

I'm impressed, a sex scene that actually contributed something.

Ritalin
11-25-2005, 09:12 PM
Bishie sparkle powaa!
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1203/bishsprk1mr.jpg

I'm impressed, a sex scene that actually contributed something.

Of course, this is a mature anime. None of this shy and teasing BS found in most anime when it comes to relationships, AND it makes a point of keeping it realistic. :)

punkusa20_2001
11-26-2005, 12:50 PM
I am going through the first 6 episodes now. Ive got to say i love the metephoric qualities and the sexual innuendo. The only things that have me worried with the first episode i saw was that i hope they dont give too much away with the inner monologues. There are certain thoughts i want to try guessing at before i am directly told. Sometimes stalling on directly telling us how the characters can feel is good. The only other thing, and this is small is I am wondering whether they are gonna keep cutting from scene to scene that way. I mean at first its not bad but if every scene in the entire anime cuts that way it might get quickly stale, hopefully they change it up a little.

Now as far as the music, i really think they got franz because of the sony music record label. Now if only american tv can get some good japanese music :). I would expect nothing less from a posh anime like this.

Lurker
11-26-2005, 11:12 PM
I am going through the first 6 episodes now. Ive got to say i love the metephoric qualities and the sexual innuendo. The only things that have me worried with the first episode i saw was that i hope they dont give too much away with the inner monologues. There are certain thoughts i want to try guessing at before i am directly told. Sometimes stalling on directly telling us how the characters can feel is good. The only other thing, and this is small is I am wondering whether they are gonna keep cutting from scene to scene that way. I mean at first its not bad but if every scene in the entire anime cuts that way it might get quickly stale, hopefully they change it up a little.

So far it seems the inner monologuing is only being done by Yukari, which is odd because we do see the story from the perspectives of others when she's not around. The cuts annoy me too.

Now as far as the music, i really think they got franz because of the sony music record label. Now if only american tv can get some good japanese music :). I would expect nothing less from a posh anime like this.

Franz Ferdinand playing at the end of this anime really doesn't seem to have any meaning. I like it, and I think that's all they were going for: mass appeal.

fugupinkeye
11-27-2005, 01:32 AM
as novel as the Franz Ferdinand song may be, I find that I actually like the opening track much more.

punkusa20_2001
11-27-2005, 02:25 AM
but wouldn't it be an awesome world *tears up* if we could have good japanese music in us or uk tv programs.
I finished those 6 at about 9 yesterday morning.
The monologue never gets as bad as i was afraid of. It really does suit the character all though some things are blatantly apparent and yukari states them anyway. I love the way just a little light or contrast of the colors affects the way each character appears. I mean if you have the chance go back and look at the differences between the light tones, and the heavy blue of the hallway. They really did well on the coloring.

soundchazer
11-27-2005, 06:38 AM
I have a little secret for you: only 1 in every 20 songs in anime are worth air time. Most Jpop is quite crappy actually.

Roark
11-27-2005, 08:55 AM
I have to say, this is probably the most impressed by an anime I've been for quite some time. Most newer stuff hasn't seemed worth my time for quite a while... and now this comes along.

It helps that the characters are all college age and really show it. Even Miwako's childishness is a mature, chose childishness. Very refreshing from the teen angst mood or basic shounen emotions that most anime give nowadays.

I actually feel the show is almost moving too fast as opposed to the slowness other people are thinking. For me, it really seems that we get to the end of an ep and too much has happened; that it's hard to remember where we started.

All in all, I'm enjoying this immensely. It's a hell of a ride: beautiful art, incredible characters, punkish feel, and a maturity that manages subtlety and nuance.

And yes, you're hearing Roark praise some other show aside from Rose of Versailles.

soundchazer
11-27-2005, 11:00 AM
If you like this, the you should take a look at Honey & Clover, Roark. As far as college age students and their problems, Honey & Clover is the best example by far (yes, even better than this anime... I love it to bits, but the manga is better).

punkusa20_2001
11-27-2005, 05:23 PM
yeah it does seem to be moving fast, but still in a realistic sense. Its nothing in speed compared to something like unihabited planets survive lol, time was all messed up there. I do appreciate this anime, and i am halfway to getting honey and clover now, if chazer recommends it i am sure it will be good.

Arashi_Lover
11-27-2005, 05:31 PM
omg, i just heard about it coming over to anime and i like that but is it in the us yet or is it just japanese? please help me out!

punkusa20_2001
11-27-2005, 06:12 PM
well the best i can say is:

Its not in the us, but we are in the us and watching it, so hypothetically if you search hard enough you might find out where to get it.

Two-twenty
11-27-2005, 06:21 PM
omg, i just heard about it coming over to anime and i like that but is it in the us yet or is it just japanese? please help me out!
omg teh anime is really cool to watch it over to anime but it is only on in the japanese because no one in the us has licensed it yet so you will have to download it illegally or wait until someone in the us has licensed it so you wont have to download it illegally i hope that helped you out lol kthnxbye!

C0MPL3X
11-27-2005, 07:00 PM
I actually feel the show is almost moving too fast as opposed to the slowness other people are thinking. For me, it really seems that we get to the end of an ep and too much has happened; that it's hard to remember where we started.

I had a same feeling, not because too much has happened, but because nothing much really has happened. But that was only true for episodes 2~5. I'm pretty happy with the last episode.
I mean really, I don't see how this anime can be considered to have a fast pace. I really doubt many people are incapable of keeping up with the pace.

Ritalin
11-27-2005, 11:45 PM
omg teh anime is really cool to watch it over to anime but it is only on in the japanese because no one in the us has licensed it yet so you will have to download it illegally or wait until someone in the us has licensed it so you wont have to download it illegally i hope that helped you out lol kthnxbye!

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Niner
11-27-2005, 11:50 PM
as novel as the Franz Ferdinand song may be, I find that I actually like the opening track much more.
That's cuz Tommy february6's Lonely in Gorgeous owns with it's catchy lyrics and infectious 80's-style beat. Even if the music video for it is total crap. XD

soundchazer
11-28-2005, 11:24 AM
Man... episode 6 was great. It was great in the manga, and it translated better in the anime.

One thing I have never been able to shake off is just how in control George is. He never lets his guard down, and pretty much toys with Caroline, making her do his bidding and say thank you afterwards. The funny part is I have seen enough of those relationships to know it is something that happens more than people would believe.

At the same time, there was so much tenderness involved. You have to give kudos to Ai Yazawa. That lady really knows about human emotions.

Kiba
11-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Episode 6

I really liked this episode alot. This mostly has to due with the fact that the storyline is becoming very, very interesting, well from my point anyways, since I haven't read the manga, and because the production values for this episode were top notch, much better than the ones for the last five episodes. It seemed like the animators saved up all of their budget for this episode.

soundchazer
11-28-2005, 01:40 PM
Thet is one thing I noticed... the range of face expressions for Caroline in this episode were amazing.

ant
12-04-2005, 06:41 AM
Thet is one thing I noticed... the range of face expressions for Caroline in this episode were amazing.

the scene where she was doing the photo shoot had me nervous too, the coloring was really effective, i wonder how the romance will play out since George is bi it can make for an interesting plot twist

Neon
12-04-2005, 07:49 AM
Paradise Kiss...which one was that they are doing?
I don't think I got into that....I really less studying and more reading mangas and keeping up.

Mana
12-04-2005, 08:50 AM
Paradise Kiss...which one was that they are doing?
I don't think I got into that....I really less studying and more reading mangas and keeping up.
Huh? That makes no sense.

And if you want to know what it is or what it's about, why don't you try reading the thread before just posting in it?

Here's the ANN link, which also has a link to their article on the manga: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5081

soundchazer
12-06-2005, 07:32 PM
Episode 7:

Is it me or Caroline is looking more and more interesting and, well, feminine as episodes go by? And I just don't mean by the clothes, but it is like somehow her demeanor keeps changing as the show goes on.

It was interesting to see Geroge's softer side. And Mikako was a hoot, like always. I loved her in Gokinjo Monogatari, and even with just small cameos, I love her in Paradise Kiss.

Ritalin
12-07-2005, 03:28 PM
Ah shit... I forgot to post.

I don't really have much to say, this episode was more about pieces from previous episodes falling in place. Mikako is always fun to have around, and I rofl'ing right along with the model agency president at the end (she was literally rofl'ing!).

Is it me or Caroline is looking more and more interesting and, well, feminine as episodes go by? And I just don't mean by the clothes, but it is like somehow her demeanor keeps changing as the show goes on.
She's definitely maturing and getting a grasp of her world, yes. I see it too.

Tyrdium
12-07-2005, 08:38 PM
Heh, the model agency president was great. And George and Caroline make such a cute couple. :o

punkusa20_2001
12-08-2005, 07:27 AM
I love the quick scene cuts at the beginning of seven, it almost seemed as though they wanted the plot out of the way to get to the emotional displays as quickly as possibl