Blood+

[Tremolo]

OK, so Blood+ doesn't premiere until the 10th (the 8th in fact), but the trailer has been out for circulation and damnit I just wanted to start the thread!

Everyone's heard of Blood: The Last Vampire. It looked great, but it was far too short and since it first came out quite a few people have been interested in a follow-up.

And here it is, a 52 episode TV series from Production IG. It certainly exists in the same world as the OVA from what I can tell, but the animation is a bit more conventional (still gorgeous though) and the character designs are different.

To be honest, I'm drooling at the bit for this. I'm well aware that it could either blow or be a wonderful, complex horror/drama series, but things just look good. It's certainly taken its time coming out at any rate, and it's really being planned as the Next Big Thing in Japan, taking the same timeslot of Gundam SEED, Fullmetal Alchemist and SEED Destiny.

Official site can be found here: http://www.blood.tv/

Please use this thread for pre-series discussion and then as the episodes begin to appear. :)

[Shadowmage]

It seems that Kain can finally see the real Blood series, especially after watching that extended "trailer."

Looking at the series it seems to be a mix of high school drama and horror... While not completely unique, I'm sure this has a good deal of potential. (Or at least eye-candy.)

[C0MPL3X]

and god forbid it from becoming another elfen lied...
but yea, looks good. The girl looks cute. The vampire-like looking guy seems interesting. Seems like a good thriller. Not impressed by that ugly monster though.

[loner]

That's why I'm afraid of it, it being the 'next big thing'. Fullmetal Alchemist was a total success, creating an enormous fanbase while delivering an excellent series. Seed and Destiny, despite somehow forming a large fanbase, were total failures as far as the quality of the shows are concerned. Given its past track record, with the 'trailer' focusing on showing off its pretty colors and animation and rather ignoring the more important things, I do have my fears for this show.

I guess I'll hazard saying this: a certain fella named bakashinji would already flooded this topic with how much Blood: the Last Vampire sucked by now.

/me goes running to an invisible corner

[guriguri]

with the 'trailer' focusing on showing off its pretty colors and animation and rather ignoring the more important things, I do have my fears for this show.
Not sure what these important things you speak of. I can't read any japanese ^_^b so I'm guessing from the trailer this is a horror/thriller series. If so, I don't think I'll like this very much. From the trailer, they seem to be focusing on the violence, less than subtle display of ugly monsters (which are lame way to put people on the edge :spidey: ). And I always thought the essence of a good horror/thriller was subtlety/imageries, etc.
Another blood gore fest folks~

[Tremolo]

Another blood gore fest folks~

No. It's on at a primetime slot, as I said earlier - which means it has to be suitable for everyone. Shows in this slot previously like FMA and SEED were designed to be popular and be suitable for most age ranges, and the new Blood series is the same. There'll be some blood, but it'll hardly be a "gore fest".

[Gigadi]

I know I'm looking fowared to seeing it.....I never saw Blood: The Last Vampire, but I'm not very critical anyway.

[guriguri]

No. It's on at a primetime slot, as I said earlier - which means it has to be suitable for everyone.
i c...(although that picture of girl whose heart got stabbed was pretty gorey), if u say so sir~

so they're trying to attract the audience with the 'coolness' of those knives and monsters? O well, can't find much about this anime right now, googling gets me only the japanese texts...

...or not, found something which might interest you all

TV AIR IN JAPAN FROM OCTOBER 8, 2005!

INTRODUCTION
The war never stops: in a different time, on a different battlefield, hiding deeply into the folds of History... They are called Chiropterans. They can change their form and disguise as human beings, but they are not. They are immortal creatures that feed off blood.

An organization, named Red Shield, has being fighting to exterminate this pestilence, and the struggle has now evolved into something of a much bigger scale.

Okinawa, Japan. Year 2005. Now.
Saya Otonashi is a high-school girl living peacefully with her family ? with one exception: she has no memory of her life except for the past year. One day, a startling event causes her happy life to shatter into pieces.

An enemy to destroy, a mission to accomplish ? the vortex of an ancient struggle is dragging Saya back to her destiny. A young and handsome cello player in dark clothes appears ? his name is Hagi. The moment he hands Saya a Japanese sword, History starts a new course.

Will Saya be able to restore her memory, and find her own identity?


THE CHARACTERS

Saya Otonashi
A high-school girl and a member of a track and field club, she lives peacefully with her family in Okinawa. However, she cannot recall anything of her past except for the previous year. Yet, she is unaware of the upcoming threat of fate waiting at the doorstep.

Hagi
A tall and impeccably handsome cello player, who seems to know Saya from before, but everything else remains a mystery. He holds the key to Saya's destiny.

The Chiropterans
Monstrous creatures with sharp claws and rapacious fangs. Mimicking the form of human beings, they live covertly within our society and feed off fresh blood. Their actual number or true nature are unknown, and most people even ignore their existence. It is only up to the mysterious organization Red Shield to hunt them down to extinction.

[Shadowmage]

For all those who care, the RAW is out.

[Shadowmage]

No. It's on at a primetime slot, as I said earlier - which means it has to be suitable for everyone... There'll be some blood, but it'll hardly be a "gore fest".

...

Bwahahaha

First 90 seconds
-Carnage (check)
-Decapitation (check)
-Impalement (check)
-Mutulation (check)
-Masscre (check)
-Infanticide (check)
-Blood (Definitely)

Anyways...

Episode 1

Intro

It has a good piece of music. The piece playing in the 20 second commercial is an exerpt of this song. There is a good deal of action and foreshadowing; although not enough is shown to spoil anything. Overall, a good fast paced intro that sets the ambience well.

Part I

Wow.

There is more character development in the first 10 minutes than the entire Blood movie. The beginning really sets the stage by introducing the high school? cast of main characters. Again, there seems to be some government organization pulling the strings in the vampire elimination process. I honestly did not expect so much complex dialogue; I couldn't decipher much, but I picked up enough to get the gist. Overall, I'm glad to see that this isn't just a eye candy piece like Gundam SEED Destiny.

Eyecatch
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/Blood1.jpg

...
His head is NOT on fire... I'll tell you that much (and it gets worse).

Part II

It seems that they saved the action for last. After some melancholy scenes showing Saiya's family, the show kicks into high gear as it starts to mimic some cheap horror flick. It then quickly turns into a brawl where Saiya is shown to have some mysterious powers. (Who didn't expect this?) Overall, encore!

Eyecatch

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/Blood2.jpg

Prince charming? Or something else...

Interest: 5/5
Grade: 4.5/5

To put it bluntly, this show has a lot of potential to become a great anime. While the 52 episode format gives this show ample time to prove otherwise, I think Production IG knows what it is doing. With beautiful animation and an intriguing cast, I think this may become the best anime of the 2005 fall season.

[Tremolo]

...

Bwahahaha

First 90 seconds
-Carnage (check)
-Decapitation (check)
-Impalement (check)
-Mutulation (check)
-Masscre (check)
-Infanticide (check)
-Blood (Definitely)

Anyways...

Hurrah! I was wrong! Kickass!

Your summary has whetted my appettite majorly for this. Roll on the subs, that's what I say.

[Sorrow-kun]

It's funny how they have shows like FMA and Seed Destiny in a 6PM time slot. From what I hear, this won't last in the 6PM time slot of very long. There have already been too many complaints.

Anyway, I don't think I'll be checking this out. There are too many awesome shows coming out this season, and my immediate suspicion is that this isn't one of them. If I hear it's good, I'll wait until it's finished, then watch it.

[aoi_n_asul]

beautiful pictures....:XD:
blood+'s got a good review in one magazine. said something about it being one of the better anime's people ought to watch...i just hope they'd air it here...

[Lupin the 3rd]

I probably going to check it out! It looks good

[PerfectDeath]

I've seen it, and it does seem to have drama, though i do hope it does not go a weird way <_<
can't come up with ideas for weird outcomes from the first episode... wich can be a good thing :P

either way, i was kinda put off from the begining due to the mass amount of blood and killing, but after seeing hte rest, i'll watch it just cause i'm bored :D

[Itachi Uchiha]

Blood+ rockz! After the first episode i'm hooked. Go watch it! It would be a sin to not watch it!

A+ grade for a first episode. That was one hell of a good attention getter episode.

[Neo-Hunter]

you know i kinda liked the first one i wait to see the second one it seems ok from the stills on the first page.

[Gigadi]

Loved it, can't wait for number 2. I with Itachi, it would be a sin not to see it.

[loner]

Episode 1

Well well well.

Few years past, Blood: the Last Vampire is sort of a running joke here, and pretty much defines style over substance. That short OVA did nothing but show off pretty fights, and never bothered to let us know who, what and how. Now there are examples of a TV series incarnation being utterly superior to the OVA/movie it spawned from, namely X TV from X/1999 movie. I expect this one to be it too.

Before we go to the important substance part, let us check on the style. Of which Blood+ plainly rocks at. In fact, it's even better than the OVA in some places, such as character designs. The character designs in the OVA weren't very appealing IMO, but here the characters look very pretty. Instead of some freak, Saya actually looks like a cute, normal high school girl here. The animation is fluid and crisp, and the music is great too. No let down here, in fact even some improvement can be seen.

Now the substance, and whether this series succeeds or fails wholely depends on it. And so far it's doing a decent job. All in all, this is a pretty typical first episode, but a lot of hints of future development is thrown into the air, and if they are realized they could make this a very deep and complex story. The characters are generally likeable, and each has enough secrets of their own to keep us interested in them. Especially that Kai kid. Is he like Sagara Sousuke, and is planted there as Saya's protector?

Before watching this, I thought this would either be a great anime, or a total failure. After watching this, I believe this could either be one of the best epic series ever, or a enormous disappointment. The producers have brought the expectation up very high, now they better deliver.

[AnimeOutlaw]

I am very glad that it now has a series. I was talking to a few friends at suncoast a few years back, and they all really liked it, but all had the same reaction to the "ending."

I do hope that this series turns out well. The animation was really good and the fight scenes were cool, too. The mosters really could freak you out.

[Ritalin]

You know, I wasn't really expecting anything from a first episode. Especially how the recent trend in anime the past few seasons start out too slow for my liking.

I see quality all over this. It's prejudging on my part, but if this doesn't totally suck ass I can see it becoming very good. It has been too long since a good vampire/horror anime came along. Trinity Blood was... ok... but lost my interest. This one should rock.

The animation really took me back. I was shocked at how good it looks compared to the OAV. The OAV was beautiful, and this is doing it great justice. So that's always a plus. :D

I can't say, though, if my expectations are high. Nothing happened in the first episode to set [high] expectations. So I'm just going to go with the flow for a few episodes and see where it takes me.

[Tremolo]

Episode One.

That was brilliant.

Everything that needs to be said about it already has, so I won't reiterate it. But I loved every minute of it, and that happens rarely with first episodes.

I can also understand why there were complaints in Japan. This series is far too gory to be on in the timeslot it is. This is a good thing though, because when I saw the character designs I was dreading a really neutered, watered-down version. I also thought this had potential Adult Swim written all over it, but I think it might actually be too gory for that... I dunno.

If there was any doubt, I'll be following this avidly.

[Ritalin]

I also thought this had potential Adult Swim written all over it, but I think it might actually be too gory for that... I dunno.

Adult Swim doesn't hold back anymore. Example: Super Milk-Chan. Ok well, it isn't on anymore (SAD! Yes, I enjoyed it) but they are really liberal with what they show now. So it is very possible to get on it.

[AnimeOutlaw]

Adult Swim doesn't hold back anymore. Example: Super Milk-Chan. Ok well, it isn't on anymore (SAD! Yes, I enjoyed it) but they are really liberal with what they show now. So it is very possible to get on it.

I liked that show, too.

Adult Swim can air this kind of thing nowadays. They have gotten so popular and I think that they are allowed to do more.

Let's hope that they air it!

[Tremolo]

I liked that show, too.

Adult Swim can air this kind of thing nowadays. They have gotten so popular and I think that they are allowed to do more.

Let's hope that they air it!

It doesn't affect me either way, as we don't get it over here, it just seems a series Adult Swim would potentially show. I dunno, it partly depends on how popular it becomes in Japan. I still think it's too gory though - they cut bits from Fullmetal Alchemist that were far less extreme than stuff from the first episode here. I'm bound to be proved wrong though. As always.

And as it hasn't been mentioned yet, Hans Zimmer is doing the music which is really pretty awesome I think. This series must cost a helluva lot.

[soundchazer]

I found it amazing that Hans Zimmer is the music producer and Mark Mancina is in charge of the music. Those guys are well recognized in Hollywood productions and the music business in general.

[loner]

And that shows the budget this show is getting, and rises the expectation that much more. Expect it to remain consistently solid in the technical area throughout the series, like Fullmetal Alchemist.

[sohryu]

I just finished watching the first episode. Wow.

I loved the OAV. I know I'm going to love this series. At 52 episodes, this has the potential to be friggin' amazing. I have yet to see an anime series (in its entirety) fansubbed, but this one is looking really good, and I don't want to wait for it to get dubbed, not after I saw that first episode.

Go go vampire anime! XD

* sohryu has a thing for teh vampire aniems

[Kiba]

WHA! 52 EPISODES! That means I wont finish until sometime in October 2006! Too long too long.

Anyways I "acquired" the first episode out of curiosity and boredom, much to my surprise I liked it. It amazed me how much more better a 25 minute episode can be than a 75 minute movie. But I miss the artistry that the movie had, it gave it a darker more dreadful feel I believe. This one seems too colourful to make it look scary.

[Linuts]

Well, the visuals are definitly top notch. The CG and 2D animation merged perfectly. A very eye-pleasing anime. As for plot... Hmmm nothing too out of the ordinary yet.

[Gigadi]

WHA! 52 EPISODES! That means I wont finish until sometime in October 2006! Too long too long.

Anyways I "acquired" the first episode out of curiosity and boredom, much to my surprise I liked it. It amazed me how much more better a 25 minute episode can be than a 75 minute movie. But I miss the artistry that the movie had, it gave it a darker more dreadful feel I believe. This one seems too colourful to make it look scary.

Yea, the "monsters" were laughable.
...at least I laughed.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 2

Another good episode to this series... It seems that the plot is beginning to move. The series seems to be going the path of an episodic show. This may be a good way to keep the action junkies around while developing the story and especially the characters.

[soundchazer]

I'm liking this anime very VERY much. Episode 2 was both fun to watch and a joy to look at (art is pretty).

In fact 2005 has been without a doubt one of the best years for anime in terms of quality EVER.

[PerfectDeath]

my cliche sences are tingling <_<
hark on the horizon is see it! >_>

well maybe not, this is episode 2.

hmmm also my "were the hell is the censor tag" sence is going off O_o

well anyway ep 2 spoiler commin at ya.

it seems like girl learns she's a wepon, and the next time she gets thrown into a situation like ep 1 situation ( :love13: ) she goes crazy and almost kills one of her family when they... OMG THE MAGIC WORDS!!! >_<

healz 240 hpz o_O

[Zee'd]

Ep 2: Almost the standard suspense building episode, complete with a few vastly-incomplete plot-bait to lure people in.

...
* Zee'd bites bait

[Gigadi]

He crushed the puppy..............


Great episdoe, I assume that this is meeting most everyones expectations. I have one complaint though, the ending is very distasteful.

[Ritalin]

It is going above what I expected it would be, but I have a deep feeling this isn't going to get much better... I it's just my paranoia for the past junk that was aired this year.

Let me elaborate the best I can. It seems to be taking a turn towards cliche's as PerfectDeath kind of said. Girl's powers awaken, she becomes confused, learns she is of some bigger plan, questions who she is, etc.

Throw in "mystery" guy and dudes after Saya and you get a recipe for cliche.

Don't get me wrong, I am really enjoying this series. From what was presented to me in the second episode this is the route it looks like it will follow. Hopefully, since the budget was so good and there are some big names aiding the production of this series; as well as a 52 episode runtime, this won't be the course it takes.

[A-R@D]

Im withholding Judgement on Blood+ for a while. The concept seems good, but it has sort of been done before in not in exactly the same way. It sort of mixes Vampires with the women assasin type genre that is pretty prevelent in anime. with plot development so far, this could go bad or good really easily. Lets hope the writers and producers can pull of a plot that works or else this could go end up like wolfs rain or scrapped princess and have lots of style but no substance.

[Natsuke Takeda]

This series gives a shiver down my spine. A good shiver.

It's turning out real good. I sucks me in sometimes and on some scenes I blink so that I may stare again.

As for the adult swim thing...

....If adult swim is crazy enough to put on The Boondocks and say "Yeah, we'll probably be cut off for this, but screw it." I'm sure if adult swim survives (maybe), then Blood+ is a sure match for them.

[soundchazer]

It is going above what I expected it would be, but I have a deep feeling this isn't going to get much better... I it's just my paranoia for the past junk that was aired this year.


And here I thought this year was probably one of the top 3 best in terms of quality.

I have never been able to figure out what you like.

[Ritalin]

And here I thought this year was probably one of the top 3 best in terms of quality.

I have never been able to figure out what you like.

I like most things initially, but with time that can easily change. What can I say? My tastes are all over the place. ;)

[Shadowmage]

Episode 3

Honestly, I do not know how this show manages to hit the 52 episode mark. Considering that everything is going at a quick pace, I wouldn't be surprised if it finished at episode 13. It seems that the characters are a lot deeper than they look. With the Vietnam War being a major backdrop (so that's where Saya was in the beginning of episode 1), I wonder exactly what year it is now.

[Ritalin]

What a cliffhanger for episode 3.

Did George die? That sure was a lot of blood and a bad attack from Forest... but in the preview for episode 4 they say he was just attacked. Hmmm.

This episode was better than episode 2, it had less cliche moments and instead threw us right into what the anime [seems] to be about. Very, very good episode.

At the pace it is moving, I have to agree with Shadowmage. How is this going to be 52 episodes? It better get amazingly good if it stays like this.

[tsiki]

Given the premise, they can always fill in some monster of the week -episodes if they start to fall behind on the count.

I just watched all 3 episodes, and thought it was ok'ish. The plot so far is very unoriginal, so my liking will mostly depends on the characters, who so far aren't bad but not really interesting either. Hopefully the next episode will give 'em more flesh as the preview seemed to indicate.

[PerfectDeath]

my cliche sences are tingling <_<
hark on the horizon is see it! >_>

well maybe not, this is episode 2.

hmmm also my "were the hell is the censor tag" sence is going off O_o

well anyway ep 2 spoiler commin at ya.

it seems like girl learns she's a wepon, and the next time she gets thrown into a situation like ep 1 situation ( :love13: ) she goes crazy and almost kills one of her family when they... OMG THE MAGIC WORDS!!! >_<

healz 240 hpz o_O

i love proving myself wrong when i come out with a bad reveiw on something :D

but it will be interesting to see how the anime's pacing will fit into the 52 episodes. Maybe this calls for an epic xD
but hopefully not some random monster of the week thing. which doesn't seem the case.
We need to find out more about the monsters and how they come, saya might go psycho again.
heal 240 hp

but so far her fighting style includes cutting herself and having the blood amplify the sword's power so she can own stuff. She can't hurt em without her blood.
*instert random gothic cutting stuffs.*

Inno, every since i saw the DOOM movie i've been goin on a paranoia spree that movies n stuff can make us go crazy. :P

[loner]

Ep. 2-3

Ok the two roads that Blood+ will likely go down are becoming more and more clear now.

First road: A cliche-ridden vampire show complete with the monster-of-the-week filler that pretends to be deep, but ultimately fails at it horribly like its precursor.
Second Road: The main plot will focus on searching for Saya's true identity and her character. The show will tie the many loose ends of her story up by exploring the various places in her past (Vietnam, that medieval looking place, the temple shrine) and slowly unraveling each facet of her past.

If this show can go down the second road, and heck even come up with an even more original direction to follow, there's no reason why this show won't succeed. But if the producer settles for the first, then this will just be another addition in the style > substance list.

I am divided as to whether I want George to die or not. On one hand, once that happens, think of the possibilities. It'll change the complexion of the whole show completely, and gets the show going immediately. Once that happens, the chances of this turning out to be monster-of-the-week is remote. On the other hand, this is a pretty anticlimatic and wasteful way for George to die. There's A LOT more to his character, and to get killed off like that is rather wasteful.

[Tremolo]

So.

I've dug this series thus far, and episode four simply confirmed why. Yes, I do have the same fears as loner, but the more I think about it the more I increasingly think it will go down the second road - this has been in development for so long now I'd love to think the producers have it all planned out. Far too much money has gone into this for it to be a dismal, monster-of-the-week thing (Hans Zimmer, for god's sake!).

I can imagine loads more characters and elements will be introduced as it goes along, and I'm looking forward to seeing just where it goes. Either way, it's still oozing quality and I still think it's the best new show of the season.

And episode four was a very good one. I love how they don't skimp on the gore or violence - it makes everything far more intense and hard-hitting.

[sohryu]

Okay, I've just finished watching the fourth episode. This show is freaking AWESOME. :|

That being said, I don't really see this series going down the "Monster of the Week" road. I kind of see the show going this way for a while (the sort of fast paced way), but then probably slowing down and getting deeper into the story/plot. Of course, I could be totally wrong. XD

Also, David is TOTALLY an anime David Bowie. I was sort of surprised that I had to point this out to both LS and Trem, but yeah. I first noticed the resemblance and thought "Whoa, uncanny", then they said his name was David and I totally went into fangirl mode. XD

[Ritalin]

I guess I'm a minority here, I can totally see it becoming monster of the week. It has been for 4 episodes now, and the next episode seems to be the same as well. We haven't learned much of anything about Saya, except for parts her past. That doesn't qualify for character development. We also know she is part of a bigger scheme but nowhere has it been explained, instead David keeps asking if she has awakened. So maybe whenever/if she fully does we will learn, but until then it is the standard monster-of-the-week.

Granted they are still moving the plot at a very good pace--not too fast but not at all slow--it still has Saya awaking for brief times and fighting for the seemingly sake of fighting. Throw in some mystery and there you go.

Episode 4 was good, but nothing amazing really happened. It had good action and that's always a plus :), but plot-wise it was the same 'ol same 'ol with a bit of character development on Kai's part.

I am very glad they didn't kill George off, but why is the US military taking him? Is he going to become one of the monsters? Or did something else happen to him because of the attack (still related to mutation)? David and that lady spoke about contamination but it seemed like they were unsure.

[soundchazer]

There is 2 ways to do a monster of the week...

Either it is the Mazinger Z type, or it can be the Speed Grapher/Full Metal Alchemist type.

The first type is the one were the whole story is about confronting bigger and scarier adversaries each week, become victorious and maybe do some power ups in the process.

The second type has them just as a way to keep action fans happy, but it still allows for character development and for a main plot to keep advancing.

The first type is boring. The second type, if done correctly, is golden.

So far, I have no qualms about the "monster of the week" thing they have going. This is turning out to be a very entertaining series.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 4

Blood+ knows how to create suspence well. While there is yet to be anything that can be considered genuinely scary, the music and animation are enough to arouse my interest. Like Ritalin, I think this show is going to be "monster of the week," but I think this will go more toward the way of Full Metal Alchemist rather than Gundam SEED. Anyways, considering that I'm watching the show in the stead of Gundam SEED Destiny, I'm in a win-win situation. (The creators will have to try in order to get as bad as that show.)

[loner]

Ep. 4

OK, I'll royally pissed if they screw this up. This is too good for anyone to **** with. It must go down the first road, or I'll be sickened beyond belief. I never thought this day would come, but I am a Blood fanboy.

Yeah it's going to be monster-of-the-week, but if that doesn't take over the series I'm fine. There's loads of hints that it will go down the second road, and do it very well. Right now, there's not that much substance, but anybody who's expecting that much is foolish. For a 52 episode series with such a large budget, they should take their time to get things set up and develop the characters, just like Eureka 7. Rushing it now will just ruin it for later.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 5

Just as I expected, the show is focusing more on Saya and her family rather than the vampire contraversy. All the children are going through a severe state of angst, especially Kai. (I wonder what happened to him in the past. I suspect his genetic parents were murdered or something.) While the series has taken the "focus on the family" approach for now, I think this will change half way. I still don't see this as a 52 episode series, but it's done a good job at its current standing of 9% complete. To put it simply: More!

[Ghostmaster]

Just started to watch this. I downloaded the third episode. It's gross and bloody, but it does actually have an interesting story, and I am curious to see what happens next. I still have no desire to see the movie though.

[soundchazer]

I liked the side stories better than Kai's angst. If they plan to have him brood like that, I sure will demand that he has to make some tough decisions in the future because of it (Maybe becoming a vampire himself. or helping the "bad guys" to gain some power and help his sister).

[Ritalin]

Whoops. Never posted about episode 5.

I could have lived without the Kai angst, I agree with what soundchazer said: the side stories were better. It's already understandable that Kai is having a rough time, it was made apparent in the last episode when he tried taking on Forest by himself. Because of this obvious trouble he is going through I almost expect Kai to make some big decisions later, ie become a vampire or something other life changing.

Not much to say, this episode seemed to be used just for building up the next few episodes. So I can't wait.

[tsiki]

Being a fan of more fast-paced starts, I found episode 4 & 5 somewhat dissapointing. Kai continues to angst, Riku continues to comfort him, Saya continues killing... everybody keeps doing the same stuff. I'm beginning to think this isn't my cup of tea, but since this anime has 52 episodes, 5 episodes aren't nowhere near enough to make a judgement with.

[soundchazer]

episode 6:

I'm sorry to say I saw that one coming a mile away.

YOu need to give the character a reason to fight. Now she has one.

[Ritalin]

I so predicted what would happen to George.

Good episode for drama and some action, but very predictable. :/

[PerfectDeath]

ya i saw it from the moment George was taken away. My gess with Kai is that he goes and joins the red sheild and tries to train n stuff to help Saya. Though I can see some monster of the week things comming, their cast is too small to be killing off already O_o
they'll either spend most of the episode not continuing the dramatical into or just kill everyone off and have Saya go psyco-ish and try and toppel the "corperation"
The different paths mean either character development or drama.

[Ritalin]

The cast is small, but keep in mind this is a 51 (52?) episode series. There is plenty of time for more characters to come and go.

It seems George was used to get the plot really moving, and it seemed a little cheap to kill him just so Saya could go badass and kill stuff. Or to get her going in general. There could have been more creative ways to awaken her and make her remember the past.

[Tremolo]

I can't say either episodes five or six really set my world alight, but I am glad that the series is firmly sticking to its guns and (as yet) not deviating from the path. Episode five rather piled on the Kai angst, whilst the end of episode six was pretty cliche and not nearly as emotional as it could have been. Either way, I'm still enjoying this a lot and plan to stick it out 'til the end.

[PerfectDeath]

hmmm according to the anime's OP, ED the characters that do not have much screen time on the OP/ED usualy don't have much significance. I think that the doctor chick and Saya's little bro go next... doctor chick first cause you don't see her in the OP :P
George is in the last bit of the ED in the pictrue along with Saya's little bro. So unless they change their OP and ED, according to the Laws of anime, your ONLY main characters are the ones in the OP and ED

ONLY!!! >_<

DEATH TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN THE OP/ED!!!!

DEATH!!! >_<

[loner]

I'm with Trem. Ep. 5 and 6 weren't up to par with the previous episodes. Kai angsting isn't my cup of tea, so I got mildly annoyed with him at the end of ep. 5. Ep. 6's major scene should've been better IMO. It was a bit too rushed, and yes cliched, for me to have any emotional attachment.

The fact that George basically got thrashed by the Chiropteran the same way as the last time sort of killed the scene for me. However, this is necessary to push the plot and Saya forward. Anyways, George will make the story more interesting dead rather than alive.

[Ghostmaster]

How do I do a spoiler thing again?

[Nicotine]

This is an interesting series, I rather like the way it's going. I want to see more butt-kicking from Saya and learn more about Haji, he doesn't really say much except "Fight, Saya" XD. Kai is grating on my nerves, though. I wish dies or something =_=. I can understand why he's angry but...still. That guy with the candy (forgot his name right now) cracks me up! ^^;

I liked George, but I can't say that his death really bothered me. What use would he be alive...? Before he died, though, I think they should have explained more about his meeting Saya. It didn't seem too clear to me.
In episode 5 I think it was, don't you think they wasted too much time with the Kai vs David fight ^^;

[Ritalin]

I liked George, but I can't say that his death really bothered me. What use would he be alive...? Before he died, though, I think they should have explained more about his meeting Saya. It didn't seem too clear to me.
In episode 5 I think it was, don't you think they wasted too much time with the Kai vs David fight ^^;

What wasn't clear? Sure they didn't go into detail about Saya's past, but they are only just beginning to do so.

Anyway, episode 7:

Woohoo! I liked this episode a lot, even though it didn't have any bloody action scenes, but it sure got the series moving. The next episode looks great, finally some freshness. New characters, new location, and new information about what's going on.

This new guy seems to heavily influence (or created) Delta 67, which we still no nothing about. He creeps me the **** out with his stare.

[PerfectDeath]

HOW DARE THEY!!!!
they dare introduce characters into the series without placing them in the OP...
Which only means 1 thing:
they are gunna die <_<

Anyway, i knew that the french were putting more then anti freeze into their wine :P

Oh if you want to do a spoiler do (spoiler) (/spoiler) but with []'s instead.

[Ghostmaster]

HOW DARE THEY!!!!
they dare introduce characters into the series without placing them in the OP...
Which only means 1 thing:
they are gunna die <_<

Anyway, i knew that the french were putting more then anti freeze into their wine :P

Oh if you want to do a spoiler do (spoiler) (/spoiler) but with []'s instead.

Thanks. I was wasen't too upset about George's death only that It was a little sad when Kai showed up since he was already upset about his father being taken away.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 6

They're mowing the plot along. While the end was cliched, I'm interested in seeing the reprecussions. Once again, I'm impressed by the animation, but hopefully, that won't be the only thing I remember this show for...

[Gigadi]

With episode 7, things are starting to move. This will begin the first arc, I'm lloking foward to learning more about Saya's assistant, or whatever he is.

[Ghostmaster]

He's like a guardian type of person. He's in charge of her sword and stuff. Don't know much about him.

[Tremolo]

He's like a guardian type of person. He's in charge of her sword and stuff. Don't know much about him.

No way! What, seriously? Are you sure?

* Tremolo has to sit down

Man, Ghostmaster. You rule!

[Kiba]

No way! What, seriously? Are you sure?

* Tremolo has to sit down

Man, Ghostmaster. You rule!
*Dies laughing*

Episode 6

Well it was nice to see that they're moving the plot along at nice easy pace, but already as many have already stated ending to this episode was a little cliched and Georges death just wasn't all that emotional, did the creators even try to make his death seem more real? All in all it was an okay episode, but was kind of lacking compared to previous ones.

[soundchazer]

To me, the best part of episode 7 is not necessarily what transpired in it. I was not too thrilled with the sappy remembrance. The school aspect might be interesting, and it was actually the preview for next episode that raised my expectations.

[Kiba]

Episode 7

This episode didn't do too much for me at all, the majority of it I found to be meh. The only highlights of this episode for me were Haji's chello piece and the preview for the next episode, which really has me intrigued. Everything else I could've just gone with out.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 7

It seems that angst is here to stay. Anyways, liked the episode as a whole. While there are many stereotypical elements, this show has me by the collar so far...

PS It appears that all vampires like wine. Much like Hellsing, those vamps have a taste for fine nector! (Especially Saya ;))

[Ghostmaster]

Not much happened they just basically recover the whole episode. Saya sleeps for two freaking days man, I mean how much more rest do you need?? :bcuss1:

[loner]

Patients with severe blood loss sleep much longer than her, and sometimes sleep forever. Saya has her gods to thank for being an original.

Ep. 7

Not an exciting episode, but a necessary set up episode. It shows how the family bond between 4 strangers were formed, and I suppose this will be the key. At least Kai's angst has fallen as he tries to cheer up Riku. The last scene between the siblings and Lewis was quite cheesy though.

Your stereotypical Vietnamese freaky dude appears. I don't think Vietnamese wear those clothes any more.

[Ritalin]

Episode 8:

That was refreshing. I was getting a bit tired of the same 'ol monsters showing up, this time he's in the form of a sophisticated and dashing man!

The chairman for "he" reference in the next paragraph

He isn't like the others though, no extreme mutations. If he has been this way for at least 10 years (when the last report of a girl kidnapped happened, not including the backstory) it appears he does have control over what's going on with him, and the Phantom is all an act to hide is identity.

When Haiji said blue roses aren't in the natural world, and Min said "but they can make them in pharmaceuticals", perhaps that's a hint at where these things (the monsters) are coming from.

[Ghostmaster]

When did 8 come out? I checked the other day and it wasen't out

[Ritalin]

Yesterday night.

[soundchazer]

Actually it was friday, but it was not available as a torrent file.

Anyway, episode 8:

It was a really refreshing change of pace. I really wish they would keep the characters in their current environments for a bit, but I fear it may be resolved in 2 or 3 more episodes. Actually, the teaser for the next episode also looks interesting.

[Ghostmaster]

Yeah I just got it yesterday thanks.

[Shadowmage]

Episodes 8-10

I love this show. Just when I was worried that this show would use the monster of the week theme for the remaining 44 episodes, they went to the real meat of the story. It's becoming really easy to connect with the cast since they are so human. Character development has been bountiful in the last episodes. Also, the story is movin along nicely. Two elements of foreshadowing have been revealed. First of the blue rose; I was wondering why there were so many blue petals in the intro song. This describes quite a bit. Also, it seems that cameraman at the beginning of the series was more than just a filler character. His son has taken up his father's steps and turned into detective. Much like the investigator in Fantastic Children, he is quite an interesting character. All in all, I want more!

[PerfectDeath]

also the story kinda split in two directions. Which is interesting because
We won't get overweilmed with kai angst, instead he does his own thing out of Saya's shadow.
wouldn't have wanted it any other way :D

[Ghostmaster]

In episode 9 I did like how they integrated Riku's little story in between the whole phantom thing going on at Saya's school. The whole kinda little love story between Riku and that girl, i forget her name Mai maybe,? it sort of sets aside the whole monster idea for an episode. But I also liked the last one where the phantom reveals himself to Saya at the end of episode 10.

[PerfectDeath]

their doing experiments -_-
i'm so clever, i've seen through their scheme >_>

[soundchazer]

Episode 11:

Dang... more questions arise, a change of venue ensues, friendships may come to pass or maybe strengthen. Overall a very interesting episode. This show is getting better by the episode.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 11

The high animation quality continues. While the fight scenes lack the punch of many other action shows, the high quality art more than compensates. More than that, the plot is getting more interesting as old faces along with some new ones make an appearance. I never thought they could turn this into a 52 episode series. Looking at the current cast now, I can see how I could be proven wrong. Let's hope that we get to see some of the old characters once more.

[Taleweaver]

I especially like the pacing of the show: The larger plot is always moving along, at least to some extent, and each episode ends with a look at what's to come next - and no, I don't mean the final teaser. Also, the "party" in this episode started off with a really beautiful slow orchestral version of an old German lullaby called "Guten Abend, gute Nacht" ("Good evening, good night"). It looks like Hans Zimmer took a look at some music from his childhood before composing the soundtrack to this series.

[Ghostmaster]

I also loved the music by Hans Zimmer, he himself is a great composer, but the music he uses for each sequence fits so well, like the ballroom scene and when the phantomj appears in the basement part when the wine is hidden.

[soundchazer]

Oooook....

Episode 12 was actually the first one I found disturbing... these new creature gave me the creeps and it sets up for what appears to be a great next episode. Now I'm left to wonder what will happen to Riku, Kai and Mui... somehow I feel that at least in Mui's case, this won't be a happy ending.

Great episode.

[A-R@D]

I have to say, none of the shows I have been watching this season have been disapointing so far. Cheers to blood+ for not disapointing me.

Episode 12 was very good, It was a good build up episode, with some nice thrills at the end. I think they did waste some timere here with some meaningless dialogue that added nothing to the plot. Im thinking they were trying to stretch this episode a bit. Hopefully we wont see too much stretching in the future.

[HunterD]

Oooook....

Episode 12 was actually the first one I found disturbing... these new creature gave me the creeps and it sets up for what appears to be a great next episode. Now I'm left to wonder what will happen to Riku, Kai and Mui... somehow I feel that at least in Mui's case, this won't be a happy ending.

Great episode.
Your not the only one that found this ep disturbing. This is the only time that an anime has disturbed me.

[PerfectDeath]

Actualy this episode hasn't disturbed me... now if a tenticle monster ame out and... did it's thing, then i'd get disturbed >_<

Anyway, i liked how the reinforcements the group get are not incompetent... except for neer the end.

But one of my pet peves is when a monster gets it's head blown off and it re-grows... were does it get the protiens, lipids, etc to rebuild it's head? O_o

a star fish can regrow from it's choped off leg because it takes some of the materials from it's leg <_<

[Chino13]

I got Freaked out when I saw the kids turn into monsters. Imagen that you saw I kid in the streed turn into a monster in fornt of your eye's. If I saw that I would stared going to church again. Know People what well you guys do?
http://www.xgen.nl/images/overlay_elfenlied.jpg


SC: Dude... use spoiler tags.

[soundchazer]

Well... episode 13 is over and done, and I was right... Mui didn't have such a happy ending, although they way it was played out, there might still be a role for her in the future. There is so many episodes ahead of us that I would be surprised if she is not brought back later on.

One thing I have liked about this anime so far is that there has been a nice mix of actions episodes vs. characterization episodes. It looks we are in for one of the later for episode 14.

[loner]

Well, so far I really like Blood+. It's exciting, there's plenty of action, there's a decent story, and there's good characters. Still, I don't think there's anything great about it yet. There's still a bit of generic plot device and fan service, and the fights between Karl and Saya was getting a bit repetitive until ep. 12.

I like the touch of realism they added to Mui's story. That episode is the only part when I felt this was really Vietnam, as the school, the museum and the large mansion can be located anywhere from Europe to Japan and won't look out of place. While I felt Riku's crush on her is a bit generic, her story, the fact that she had to dig out mines for a living and forgo her dream, really brings home the scar the Vietnam War left on these people.

It would have been really tough to see her "shell" crack. I don't know if she can bee healed, but if she can't be, this would be one of the more powerful moments in anime, up there with Nina's death in FMA IMO.

[HunterD]

Well, so far I really like Blood+. It's exciting, there's plenty of action, there's a decent story, and there's good characters. Still, I don't think there's anything great about it yet. There's still a bit of generic plot device and fan service, and the fights between Karl and Saya was getting a bit repetitive until ep. 12.

I like the touch of realism they added to Mui's story. That episode is the only part when I felt this was really Vietnam, as the school, the museum and the large mansion can be located anywhere from Europe to Japan and won't look out of place. While I felt Riku's crush on her is a bit generic, her story, the fact that she had to dig out mines for a living and forgo her dream, really brings home the scar the Vietnam War left on these people.

It would have been really tough to see her "shell" crack. I don't know if she can bee healed, but if she can't be, this would be one of the more powerful moments in anime, up there with Nina's death in FMA IMO.
The plot hasn't even been revealed yet. How can it be generic? Are do you think the way they are moving the plot along is generic?

I can't see why you think Riku's crush is generic. I can't recall watching an anime that has a male character falling for a girl that is disabled.

[Ghostmaster]

I thought episode was again awesome. The fight scene was awesome between Karl as the giant monster thing and Saya. How do I do a spoiler tag again I always forget.

[loner]

The plot hasn't even been revealed yet. How can it be generic? Are do you think the way they are moving the plot along is generic?

I can't see why you think Riku's crush is generic. I can't recall watching an anime that has a male character falling for a girl that is disabled.

I said plot devices, not plot. Plot devices like the fights against Karl was repetitive and and got generic when it reached ep. 12.

A male character falling for a disabled girl may not be done a lot, but a male character falling for a weak/sickly girl is. Make no mistake that I like Mui's story, but their relationship seem just happened a bit too quick for me.

[PerfectDeath]

he's a wealthy japanese boy, of yours your gunna try getting a quick relationship with him if ou are a poor sikly girl <_<

but i did find the Karl battle generic... he's not fun anymore.

oh and spoiler tags are [spoiler]
inno if i spelled it wrong though :lol:

[Ghostmaster]

he's a wealthy japanese boy, of yours your gunna try getting a quick relationship with him if ou are a poor sikly girl <_<

but i did find the Karl battle generic... he's not fun anymore.

oh and spoiler tags are [spoiler]
inno if i spelled it wrong though :lol:

thats what I thought although sometimes it doesn't seem to work. And you put [spoiler] before and after what you right correct? like [spoiler] ffdjkfjdjfkdjfkjfljfjdskfjsfj [spoiler] see it doesn't work.:bcuss1:

[Zee'd]

The 2nd Spoiler (or the "closing" one) has to look like this: [/SPOILER]

thus giving you this: [ SPOILER ] See? [/SPOILER]
or [ SPOILER="Title" ] This? [/SPOILER] if you want a title

and THAT will look like this:
See? or This? if you want a title
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and back to our regularly scheduled thread...
Ep 13: I donno... "Everyone except bit actors survives" sounds a bit like a B-grade movie plot, don't you think?

Also, the fight seems a bit faked and the drama with Mui seems a bit force-fed...

But there's a possible plot-hole that might not be a plot-hole: What's with the invulnerability of 'Little Brother' (forgot the name) to the 'trailer'-song? Just like all the other children, he was kidnapped in the first place because of the possibility he can change, right? Does that make him something more, or is it just an honest storyline mistake? Hmmmm....

[Sorrow-kun]

thats what I thought although sometimes it doesn't seem to work. And you put [spoiler] before and after what you right correct? like [spoiler] ffdjkfjdjfkdjfkjfljfjdskfjsfj [spoiler] see it doesn't work.:bcuss1:Oh God, I can't believe how much you just failed there.

[Tremolo]

thats what I thought although sometimes it doesn't seem to work. And you put [spoiler] before and after what you right correct? like [spoiler] ffdjkfjdjfkdjfkjfljfjdskfjsfj [spoiler] see it doesn't work.:bcuss1:

You fail so much I could write my thesis on you. Shut up already about the goddamn spoiler tags!


Whatever, due to university's killing of any form of BitTorrent I'm still insanely behind (episode 6 D=), but I've seen the new OP and on a purely superficial level, I dig the hell out of it. That, and I love Hyde. So much.

Looks like more globe-trotting is in order, and the new characters look very interesting. I'll be playing catch-up soon enough, anyway.

[Ghostmaster]

Alright everyone stopmaking fun of me here we go in episode 13 do we know that Karl is really dead? Why that other guy leave his own brother behind? There I did it. God.:thud:

[HunterD]

Whatever, due to university's killing of any form of BitTorrent I'm still insanely behind (episode 6 D=), but I've seen the new OP and on a purely superficial level, I dig the hell out of it. That, and I love Hyde. So much.


Can you use IRC?

[Tremolo]

Can you use IRC?

Nope. Or file transfers over instant messaging programmes, or rubbishy P2P stuff...we don't even have our own DC++. So I have to download and catch up when I'm home every other weekend or so. Not too bad really but it's a bit incovenient.

[ant]

http://blood.aii.co.jp/

another site

[PerfectDeath]

my gawd, you guys drill seargent the poor noobs :D

well at least no one goes at me for my incorrect grammar. i got a B in ENG 100 so i can spell bad now haha


anyway did i hear a new OP O_o
must watch this for it will show me the future of the anime and who dies off o_O

[Tremolo]

So, I've caught up due to wonderfully illicit reasons, and I'm still enjoy the show quite a bit. The whole school/Phantom stuff was rather average, but episodes 12 and 13 really upped the ante quite significantly and really showed how good, not to mention disturbing and violent and downright gory this series can be. 14 however was, on the other hand, deadly dull and provided some boring set-up if little else. Still, I look forward to seeing where the next portion of the series takes us.

[Kiba]

Episode 8

This episode was a little better than episode 7, but again for the most part is was kind of meh for me. I just found this episode to be highly predictable, and the whole "phantom of the school" theme just seems overly done and boring to me. Hopefully episode 9 will be better.

[Ghostmaster]

episode 14 was a nice transition episode from the whole fight in the jungle. Even though the episode moved kinda slow, it was still enjoyable to watch. The connection between Saya and her old friend from school, made you feel sympathy for Saya.

[Sorrow-kun]

http://www.c21media.net/resources/detail.asp?area=79&article=28481

[Lupin the 3rd]

and so i heard blood+ got licensed! V_V

[Shadowmage]

and so i heard blood+ got licensed! V_V
Adult Swim, here we come!

I'll catch up with every as soon as the R1 releases come out! (Or my high speed connection is restored...)

[soundchazer]

Meh... it will be some time before it comes, so you can expect fansubs to continue.

[Tremolo]

But...Sony? I know they've licensed like...two series before and those releases apparently blew. Did a good job on movies, though.

And I still stand by my "not sure whether it'll be on Adult Swim" stance. As I said, it's far gorier than anything they've shown (hell, FMA's second half has nothing on this), and I can only bet it gets worse later on. Still, I guess Sony have big plans for this if they picked it up.

[Ghostmaster]

and so i heard blood+ got licensed! V_V
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:jawdrop:

[Rove]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:jawdrop:


The fine example of a true anime fan...

[/sarcasm]


You should be happy that the anime got licensed! You are enjoying the show, right? It's your chance to get (in a lot of months time) the original DVDs and all the original merchandise that comes from releasing a title, and instead you are sad because there will be less fansub groups working on it (like all of them are going to stop, of course). How sad.

[soundchazer]

I don't mind to have anime go licensed. I mind pre-licenses, or licenses that only have the intention to stop fansubs and/or other companies from buying a product, buy have no intention to have an acceptable release date.

If you ask me what I mean by acceptable, I would say that the first episodes should be released within 6-8 months, and that the full product should be released.

In any case, I can see Blood + being aired on DirecTV or SKY in Latin America in the Sony Entertainment Television channel.

[Ghostmaster]

The fine example of a true anime fan...

[/sarcasm]


You should be happy that the anime got licensed! You are enjoying the show, right? It's your chance to get (in a lot of months time) the original DVDs and all the original merchandise that comes from releasing a title, and instead you are sad because there will be less fansub groups working on it (like all of them are going to stop, of course). How sad.
I like getting for free instead of buying them thank you very much. I know there will be other places to find them, but still rather download them, then buy them, wouldn't anyone.

[LadySage]

I like getting for free instead of buying them thank you very much. I know there will be other places to find them, but still rather download them, then buy them, wouldn't anyone.

Actually, I'd rather watch them on DVD. I prefer vegging on my couch, watching it on my TV's sizable screen rather than hunching over my little tiny laptop at a desk.

[Kuzu Ryu Sen]

I like getting for free instead of buying them thank you very much. I know there will be other places to find them, but still rather download them, then buy them, wouldn't anyone.

Ethics, morals, copyright laws, who needs them.

[soundchazer]

Actually, I'd rather watch them on DVD. I prefer vegging on my couch, watching it on my TV's sizable screen rather than hunching over my little tiny laptop at a desk.

*cough*xbox media player*cough*

[soundchazer]

Bumpity bump bump.

Episodes 14 and 15 are basically setup episodes, that also allow for some character development. We get to know more about Kai's ex-girlfriend, who happens to be a much more interesting character than first advertised. It seems she is bound to become a major player in the story.

The new opening and ending are far better than the originals. Overall this anime is getting better and better.

[PerfectDeath]

maybe she ends up funding that free lance photographer. That's my fortune cookie throw out.
my ratical random fortune cookie throw out is that Diva turns out to be a creation similar to Saya (radical) but it requires copiouse amounts of wine to sustain, hence why it is relate to wine xD (random) :P

as for the licencing thing, It is always amuzing t see the hole freak show about it.

i still don't buy the DVDs xD
you can't peddle your corperate wares on me <_<

[soundchazer]

Episode 17: Interesting episode. We finally get to see some background information about Saya and Hagi. It is interesting to see that Hagi is somewhat "different" from the current Hagi. I wonder what made him the way he is in the present.

[mistress #9]

*Dies laughing*

Episode 6

Well it was nice to see that they're moving the plot along at nice easy pace, but already as many have already stated ending to this episode was a little cliched and Georges death just wasn't all that emotional, did the creators even try to make his death seem more real? All in all it was an okay episode, but was kind of lacking compared to previous ones.

sorry to sound b%tchy but you should have put that in spoilers i have not seen this show and i am reading the posts to see if i would be intrerested and unlike usually i did not wanna be spoiled...but this does sound interesting...:thewave:

[mistress #9]

so iam taking it that blood + wasnt avalibalbe commerically but is now does anyone know if it is finshed in japan i am a box set girl so i kind of wanna wait till all the eppys are avilable commerically or if they do more then one season then buy it a season at a time its usually cheaper and more convient...nothing worse then hunting for a volume and not being able to find it..so i wanna know if i am gonna half to wait to the box set comes out...who's distrubitting it in North america/ canada....or if you think i shouldn't wait i could buy the first two volumes...my favorite anime haunt is selling them but i dont know like i said i perfer boxsets however, i dont wanna wait too long...

also i actually really liked the blood movie i thought it rocked...it was just too short...so if the series is as good as you all say i am gonna love it...oh and does anyone know if its gonna be rated or if it is tell me where it is i checked in the B section but only found blood movie...thanks all.

[Tremolo]

so iam taking it that blood + wasnt avalibalbe commerically but is now does anyone know if it is finshed in japan i am a box set girl so i kind of wanna wait till all the eppys are avilable commerically or if they do more then one season then buy it a season at a time its usually cheaper and more convient...nothing worse then hunting for a volume and not being able to find it..so i wanna know if i am gonna half to wait to the box set comes out...who's distrubitting it in North america/ canada....or if you think i shouldn't wait i could buy the first two volumes...my favorite anime haunt is selling them but i dont know like i said i perfer boxsets however, i dont wanna wait too long...

Wow, thought process splurge!

No, it's not finished. Look over the thread again - it's a 50 episode series that started a few months and the last post was about episode 17, I think that's pretty self-explanatory. Looking through the thread (hell, scrolling up the page) will also reveal that it was licensed by, of all people, Sony.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ = Your friend. Everything you need to know is there

also i actually really liked the blood movie i thought it rocked...it was just too short...so if the series is as good as you all say i am gonna love it...oh and does anyone know if its gonna be rated or if it is tell me where it is i checked in the B section but only found blood movie...thanks all.

You are allowed to stop for breath y'know! :XD:

[Ghostmaster]

Was 15 on the train and 16 in the snow where Saya and Hagi are in the cave and meet the girl?

[mistress #9]

so iam taking it that blood + wasnt avalibalbe commerically but is now does anyone know if it is finshed in japan i am a box set girl so i kind of wanna wait till all the eppys are avilable commerically or if they do more then one season then buy it a season at a time its usually cheaper and more convient...nothing worse then hunting for a volume and not being able to find it..so i wanna know if i am gonna half to wait to the box set comes out...who's distrubitting it in North america/ canada....or if you think i shouldn't wait i could buy the first two volumes...my favorite anime haunt is selling them but i dont know like i said i perfer boxsets however, i dont wanna wait too long...

also i actually really liked the blood movie i thought it rocked...it was just too short...so if the series is as good as you all say i am gonna love it...oh and does anyone know if its gonna be rated or if it is tell me where it is i checked in the B section but only found blood movie...thanks all.

lol my boyfriend always tells me to stop and breath when i am talking bout something i am intrested in...great minds think a like..or......:dninja:

[Ghostmaster]

Episode 19 has come and itis a great episode. Many plot twists and turns make this one the best episodes yet to come. This series has not dissapointed me yet except for maybe one or two filler episodes, which are still entertaining. A big shocker occured in episode 19 Saya is the sister of the horrible Diva who makes Chriopteran from her own blood. Saya herself is one as well. Definately great and I hope they keep this up.

[soundchazer]

Episode 22:

The origin of Saya and Hagi... Enough said.

[Ghostmaster]

Episode 22:

The origin of Saya and Hagi... Enough said.
and it was awesome. So the season is going to end at 26 right?

[mistress #9]

Okay if this has already been asked, sorry but i didnt want to read thorough the entire post, cus i didnt want to spoil myself...i am bad for this and always regret it...just last night i watched an elfen lied music vid that gives the ending a way..sob sob sob...anyways sorry off topic, i was wondring if anyone could tell me when this will be released in North America. i just read in Newtype-USA that the rights for it have been bought so i was like YIppe but they did not say when it would come here.

Thanks for all your help.

[soundchazer]

Okay if this has already been asked, sorry but i didnt want to read thorough the entire post, cus i didnt want to spoil myself...i am bad for this and always regret it...just last night i watched an elfen lied music vid that gives the ending a way..sob sob sob...anyways sorry off topic, i was wondring if anyone could tell me when this will be released in North America. i just read in Newtype-USA that the rights for it have been bought so i was like YIppe but they did not say when it would come here.

Thanks for all your help.

This is so off topic that it isn't even funny. I won't erase it so that people realize what NOT to post, otherwise they will get public ridicule from me, before I erase it.

[HunterD]

Episode 23 is out! I won't say anything about the plot for now because it is too good to spoil. This is the best action anime series I've seen in years.

[A-R@D]

All I have to say is wow, what an episode ending. Don't miss this one.

[soundchazer]

Episode 23: All I can say is that my theories about Riku were correct. Great episode, awesome cliffhanger.

[Ghostmaster]

I agree with everyone one, it's a great cliffhanger, I'm never dissappointed with this show. It continues to surprise me every time.

[mistress #9]

This is so off topic that it isn't even funny. I won't erase it so that people realize what NOT to post, otherwise they will get public ridicule from me, before I erase it.

Actually not really..I was asking something directly related to Blood + so i was not spamming and i was giving a reason as to why if this was already brought up why i didnt read it then. Also i did aknowldege that i did get off topic with the elfen lied stuff but it was a vilant example as to why i do not want to read through this whole thread/topic.

Sorry if i upset you but i do NOT feel that i was all that off topic and once again i mean no disrespect but your post was suggesting that i wasn't talking bout BLOOD + at all and i was. Also back to my orginal question..could anyone please tell me when it will be relased in North America...does anyone know...... This was the whole point of my earlier post... if i am not allowed to ask a simple question about Blood + then tell me and i will start a new thread asking this question. I didnt' want to do that because this thread already existed...but if that was wrong off me please let me know..

thanks Mistress 9.

[HunterD]

The series has just reached the halfway point. Nobody knows when this will see a US release.

[mistress #9]

The series has just reached the halfway point. Nobody knows when this will see a US release.

Thank you soo much Hunter D, for anwering my question. I just thought cus its rights were bought that something deffinetly was heard. Thanks i will watch closely till this infor is relesed. I really really want to watch this series it sounds sooo good.

ANd once again for letting me know that...

[HunterD]

Episode 24 has been released!

Just finished watching episode 24 and man is it great. Diva is a demented woman.


SC: No double posting please, especially if they are just hours apart.

[A-R@D]

Episode 24 is fantastic. We finally get to see diva up close and personal in this episode and she is just how I imagined her to be in a perfect anime. She has a perfect mix of childlike playfullness and inhuman disregard for life. We also learn more of the history between Diva and Saya.


Dont Read this unless you have seen episode 23
Also we find out what happens to Rikku after he was bitten by diva

[Rove]

I haven't been following Blood+ as religiously as the rest of you guys but I think this will interest you:

5-1-06 ---- SBS To Drop Blood+ Amid Media Row

Shizuoka Broadcasting System (SBS) will discontinue the broadcast of the Blood+ TV series from the end of May. Officially, the move comes after telecast permission from rights holder Mainichi Broadcasting was refused. As a result, SBS will air their final authorized episode on May 27th. Unofficially, observers are citing possible tension between Mainichi and the largest shareholder in SBS, Shizuoka Shimbun. The local newspaper reportedly published a critical piece on MBS's "tsuchi 6 anime" block in January of this year. Other shows in the block are also to cease broadcast and no reconciliation to allow a contunuance via SBS is evident for the near future. Re-broadcasting through affiliated TV networks near the prefecture is being examined.
This means that the lass episode will be episode 33, of the 50-52 episodes expected in the first place. I wonder how Production IG will manage the script, not to mention Sony, the licence owner for Blood+.

Also, episodes 25-26 are out.

[soundchazer]

25 has been "out" for a while.

Honestly, this kind of thing has happened before. Usually, a different TV station picks up the remainder episodes, so I don't think they will adapt it to meet less episodes, but rather wait for a new TV station to pick it up.

This is exactly what happened to Justice League unlimited... just because Cartoon Network decided not to air th entire last season, didn't mean production stopped. It was aired fully in Europe.

[Ghostmaster]

Well I can't believe they would do something like that. I mean it's a really awesome show, I don't know why they would want to pull it. Also episodes 25 and 26 are awesome.

[A-R@D]

Yeah, this is probably my favorite show that is currently airing right now. I've seen up to 29 raw, and up to 26 fansubbed. The action sort of takes a back seat in the next few episodes, but the plot is really advances.We learn more of the Schiff, more of Saya's Origins and we a can see deep rift opening up between Saya and Kai.

[Ghostmaster]

I totally agree. It's my favorite show right now too. They can't just end it when they want. It wouldn't be fair the story. And the story is amazing and great character development too. I hope somebody picks it up, but for right now there will be more episodes at least.

[Dirty Harry]

I hear this series has gone to absoulte shit from good sources. I'm so glad I stopped at episode 01.

[sohryu]

I keep downloading all the new episodes, even though I stopped watching at around ep 12 >_>

I think I'll catch up on this series sometime soon

[Chocobo Breeder]

I found it incredibly tedious and boring. So I stopped watching it and now am watching Lost, which is totally better and it's in English.

ENGLISH DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

(Just that one Korean guy doesn't, but he actually does speak English so it's all cool)

[soundchazer]

I hear this series has gone to absoulte shit from good sources. I'm so glad I stopped at episode 01.

Don't trust your sources, it actually got better and has a stronger backstory than what episode 1 leads you to believe. But then again, one of them thinks that Eureka 7 was the best anime of 2005, which is not.

[Dirty Harry]

Don't trust your sources, it actually got better and has a stronger backstory than what episode 1 leads you to believe. But then again, one of them thinks that Eureka 7 was the best anime of 2005, which is not.

My source was soh. O___o

[soundchazer]

My source was soh. O___o

I rest my case.

[Dirty Harry]

I rest my case.

But soh hasn't seen E7 you conclusion-jumper!

And I trust her opinion... even though she watches hentai for fun.

[soundchazer]

But soh hasn't seen E7 you conclusion-jumper!

And I trust her opinion... even though she watches hentai for fun.

You mentioned sourceS (plural), I was just talking about one of your usual sourceS (plural again) you usually use to get your reviews for anime.

Granted, the source (singular) I was refering to usually gets it right, but he sometimes can be as bad a fanboy for a particular company as Gainax maniacs are.

My personal belief though is you should take with a grain of salt the opinions of someone who thinks Evangelion is the best anime ever and prefers dubs over subs. Again, that is my personal belief, which these days seems to be confused by many as my way of trying to either impose my will or trying to show I have god-like infallibility (both of which are silly notions and untrue... I'm just very strongly opinionated, and I have stated that since day one).

[Dirty Harry]

You mentioned sourceS (plural), I was just talking about one of your usual sourceS (plural again) you usually use to get your reviews for anime.

Granted, the source (singular) I was refering to usually gets it right, but he sometimes can be as bad a fanboy for a particular company as Gainax maniacs are.

My personal belief though is you should take with a grain of salt the opinions of someone who thinks Evangelion is the best anime ever and prefers dubs over subs. Again, that is my personal belief, which these days seems to be confused by many as my way of trying to either impose my will or trying to show I have god-like infallibility (both of which are silly notions and untrue... I'm just very strongly opinionated, and I have stated that since day one).


Well. My other source, Erigion. He's reliable. I mean, he's the best reviewer at AS and he's a mod here. He's got cred.

EDIT:

AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MY GOOD CHAP, TREM.
His tastes are way much better than yours. I mean geeze, he likes Animal Man and I can still say that.

[soundchazer]

Well. My other source, Erigion. He's reliable. I mean, he's the best reviewer at AS and he's a mod here. He's got cred.

Again... I rest my case. He is a good writer and... he is a good writer. ;)


Edit:

For the record, I liked Animal Man too. I only wish Brian Bolland had also done the interiors instead of just the covers. Morrison seems to be plagued with a lot of subpar artists most of the time, except for people like Phil Jimenez and Frank Quitely.

[mistress #9]

First of all I hope this is okay to post here, but it is bout Blood + so I don't see why not. Anyways, Hey all, I have just recently obtained some imports of blood + (I do not think they are bootlegs because they have all the copyright warnings and other stuff on the dvd cases, and why would bootlegs have those?) Anyways, I just wanted to thank everyone who told me this show was great. I have only seen the first four eppy's but I am lovin it. I am soo drawn into the plot and just mystfied about a few things. I know the show will more then likely answer them. But I want to be spoiled. I want to know, and I realise this is proabably a silly question that has been answered before. But I don't want to spoil myself with other stuff. So I am reasking it. Okay here it goes, Is saiya from Blood + the excat same Saiya in Blood the last vampire? If so what time frame does this all take place in?

Thanks all.

[soundchazer]

Bootleggers in many cases would actually put those warnings to make them look legit.

I seriously doubt you would have a legit Blood+ product unless you bought it from Japan, with no English subtitles and at a price of over $50.00

(and yes, it is supposed to be the same Saiya)

[mistress #9]

Seriously, I can't believe they would do that. Then how can you tell if it's an actual import or not? Ah I am so confused! I guess I should maybe not buy anymore past the few I already got and wait till they are released in North America. I honestly thought they were just imports, since they had the warnings and well the subtitles are quite good. This is just awful. I feel horrible, but Iam lovin this show and will diffently get it when it is realeased in North america.

Seriously something needs to be done to stop those evil people from taking advantage of innoncent people like me. Thanks for the warnings Sound chaser. I will extra carefull now a days.

[soundchazer]

Hehe... I come from a country where bootlegs are commonplace, and believe me, they will put all the bells and whistles when it comes to the "warnings" to make it look legit. That is the whole purpose.

Again.. most likely, if the DVD cost less than 50 bucks, then it is a fake, since Japanese imports are very expensive. IN Japan alone that DVD is about 38 bucks. Now add cost of shipping plus markup from your local dealer.

By the way, does the box look like this?

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000BO2MOW.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

That is the original artwork for DVD 1.

[mistress #9]

Nope, Darn It I got tricked!:whip: But well To look on the postive side of this (if there is a postive side) I will diffently be buying this when it is relased in N.A. I hope they do a boxset. It is amazing. I mean the story is full of so much myster and intrique that it pulls you in. I am still confused on how it can be the same Sayia because of the time frame difference? But thank you so much Soundgarden for bringing this to my eyes.

[Ghostmaster]

Well I still think Blood+ is an awesome show. I hope they keep subbing it, ti would be a shame it's such an awesome show and it has a great developing storyline. I would never buy bootlegs anyway they stink.

[soundchazer]

Darn... episode 30 was so revealing.

The complete origin of Saya and Diva, and the real story behind Vietnam. What more could we ask for?

[A-R@D]

What more could we ask for?
Now that the story is set I'm hoping we can get some more action. The table is set for fierce battle between Saya and Diva in some upcoming episode. In their first battle, saya was totally outclassed by Diva and Solomon. She was weak then, but haji was also outmatched by Solomon, so I think Saya and Haji have a long way to go before the become a match for Diva and her Chevaliers. Looking at how fierce and strong of a fighter Saya was in vietnam, it will be interesting to see if Saya starts to regain her strength.


At the end of episode 30 Saya mentions that she mentioned that she remembered the promise she made to Haji long ago. It will be interesting when this promise is revealed. Seeing how in the past few episodes Haji has been acting as if he wont be there forever I am thinking this promise must be some sort of death pact.

[Ghostmaster]

Now that the story is set I'm hoping we can get some more action. The table is set for fierce battle between Saya and Diva in some upcoming episode. In their first battle, saya was totally outclassed by Diva and Solomon. She was weak then, but haji was also outmatched by Solomon, so I think Saya and Haji have a long way to go before the become a match for Diva and her Chevaliers. Looking at how fierce and strong of a fighter Saya was in vietnam, it will be interesting to see if Saya starts to regain her strength.


At the end of episode 30 Saya mentions that she mentioned that she remembered the promise she made to Haji long ago. It will be interesting when this promise is revealed. Seeing how in the past few episodes Haji has been acting as if he wont be there forever I am thinking this promise must be some sort of death pact.
Really liked episode 30 you learn a lot
I too am very intrigued about what the promise is that Saya has made with Haji and I can't wait to see Saya and Diva's battle as well as what Karl Solomon and especially Amschel have planned.

[A-R@D]

Oh god, I just finished episode 32 and this show seems to be heading toward a rather shakespearian ending, shall we say. Of Course, that is what makes this anime so awesome.
Riku gets taken by Diva then raped and killed!
Spolier 1 (http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/2249/11481206050345ij.jpg)
Spoiler2 (http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/1773/11481215390934ps.jpg)

[AYUFAN11]

Hi, I'm new here...

Anyways, I really want Volume 1, But theres absolutely no subtitles that sucks... I want the official dvds but I want to be able to know what their saying :(

[Zushio]

Seriously, I can't believe they would do that. Then how can you tell if it's an actual import or not? Ah I am so confused! I guess I should maybe not buy anymore past the few I already got and wait till they are released in North America. I honestly thought they were just imports, since they had the warnings and well the subtitles are quite good. This is just awful. I feel horrible, but Iam lovin this show and will diffently get it when it is realeased in North america.

Seriously something needs to be done to stop those evil people from taking advantage of innoncent people like me. Thanks for the warnings Sound chaser. I will extra carefull now a days.

Good way to see if it's a bootleg.

Almost no Japanese imports have english subtitles, the only real exception to this is Ghibli DVDs. Also, Japanese DVDs are either Region 3 or 2, if the DVDs you are buying are Region 0 or Region 1, again, likely a bootleg. Again, Ghibli is an exception.

[HunterD]

Anyone have an idea of what is happening with the subbing of this series?

[freelovasistah]

yo, wat is happening wit tha subbing series?

[Ghostmaster]

They havent subbed in a while. I'm up to episode 32 which is where I think they left off. But I'm not sure about the subs. I hope they pick up again.

[Yuhara]

eps 33 came out yesterday.

[Ghostmaster]

Oh cool i'll get on it.

[jetfire]

I've just happened to start watching Blood+ a week into July, and I just caught up to episode 38. This series probably makes it into my Top 5 Anime of all time. I love the depth of the characters, as they just seem to grow more and more with each episode. It definately has a strong emphasis on character relationships and interaction between characters, rather than just throwing characters out that serve no purpose, or having characters that are utterly predictable in every sense. The music is also another one of my favourite parts. For the first time, I've noticed music can actually make a series more deep than it already is. Most of the themes convey certain moods perfectly. They also took a lot of time with the plot itself, and it was really interesting to watch how Saya's past fit in with the whole plot, as it unravelled. Finally, I'll say that the fight scenes are also really entertaining to watch. While they may be short, some of the scenes are wonderfully choreographed. Oh, and episode 32 was just shocking and hit me pretty hard.

Between episodes 1 to 38, I'd give the series somewhere between a 9.3 and 9.6 out of 10.

[Ghostmaster]

I totally agree Jetfire. I've always been a fan of the show. Since the show started up again it's gotten really interesting and awesome. This show is definately my favorite right now.

[jetfire]

Who's been keeping up with Blood+ lately? I'm still finding it as a very good anime, but it hasnt gotten considerably better. Since what happened in episode 32, I've found that I'm able to predict many of the plot elements. However, the plot did surprise me as to why Diva looks the way she does now. Also, what's been happening to Diva (and a bit of what's happening to Saya) over the last few episodes is getting interesting, even though I could predict this coming ahead.

And since Saya ends up going back to sleep from time to time, I wonder if we'll see a 30 year time jump before the series ends. Probably.

The only element that I really don't like is the way Saya has turned out in the last 10 or so episodes. She's not as likeable as she once was, and falls into that stereotypical category, "I can't let anyone become close to me or they'll get hurt. This is my battle alone". Otherwise, a great show. I definately like how Kai has developed from his rash, impulsive self to something more mature.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 12-44

Holy crap! If they don't botch the last few episodes, this show will probably get my best anime of 2005/2006 nomination. I'm thoroughly impressed at how many times this anime has managed to "wow" me. The pacing is superb, the characters are deep, and the animation is as shiny as ever. (Okay, there has been a slight drop, but not quite to the level of Eureka 7) However, the thing that impresses me most is the story. I've never seen the vampire theme used quite like this. I despised Blood: The Last Vampire, but if it can produce an offspring like this, I'm obliged to give props to the OVA.

[soundchazer]

It is indeed a very interesting story. I just hope it doesn't do an Eureka 7 on us.

[Grasshopper]

I'm very excited about Blood +. The characters are interesting and the animation is fantastic.

[Taleweaver]

I'm not entirely happy with the pacing of the show. At times, nothing happens for several consecutive episodes (except for a few meaningless battles where no one gets really hurt and nothing is ever resolved), and then there are sudden big revelations, like Diva's true agenda. Characters flip-flop in power level as the scriptwriters find it convenient at the moment, and even basic personality traits of the main players differ from week to week, most of the time in Saya herself. It's still far from a bad show, but I have a hard time imagining an ending that can make up for so many little griefs.

[Shadowmage]

Episode 45

Warning: Don't get the "Your-mama" version; the sarcastic asides absolutely kill the episode.

Anyways, I personally found the previous episode more powerful than this one. In a sense, everything that happened here was a bit predictable. Ironically, I found the ending a bit wasteful... They could have been used differently...

[NausicaaBoy]

Although i enjoy the premise I have to agree with our prof on this one. The pacing of the series brings the naruto manga to mind. A spike in action every 5 episodes and the rest - fairly generic and monotonous filler.

[Shadowmage]

fairly generic and monotonous filler.

Please jog my memory for me; I don't recall there being any filler.

By the way, this is not really an action series, and it never was.

[jetfire]

Episode 45

Warning: Don't get the "Your-mama" version; the sarcastic asides absolutely kill the episode.

Anyways, I personally found the previous episode more powerful than this one. In a sense, everything that happened here was a bit predictable. Ironically, I found the ending a bit wasteful... They could have been used differently...

I agree. It's like such a struggle was put up, only to have it end like that. Personally, just about no moment can get as powerful as the end of episode 32 for me, so it does feel a bit wasteful.

And for some reason, I'm not finding the anime to be as emotionally gripping as it once did. The whole closeness issue about family before, as well as all of the elements of Saya's past were very interesting to me. Now that it's over (Saya still feels so distant), I'm almost just waiting for it to end, with the exception of a few loose ends that I really want to see tied up (and to see how it ends).

[Ghostmaster]

This series is having some slow momments, but overall its a great series and i cant wait for the edning. I happen to not like the Sif, but I guess the end scene in episode 45 was kinda sad where Moses and Karman die.

[boweyang]

I am a noob so pardon my stupity...

I just watched Blood+ which is the series that goes with Blood: The Last Vampire. I believe that they just finished the series about a week ago (50 episodes). I say that that was one of the best animes I have every seen next to Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist. Some parts where a bit boring and some where beyond bloody. If you want a very 'touching' anime to watch with great details in character and 'emotion,' this is definitely a watch.

[Grasshopper]

It's a great anime I agree, but I found the ending to be very disappointing. Saya's battle with Diva was much too short and Nathan's death was ridiculous.

[Apolyion]

The fight between Diva and Saya was a bit weak on the action-choreography front, but its finish and resolution made for decent drama. I honestly wondered if Saya really would kill the babies and herself - if there was much of a letdown to the show's ending, it's that she didn't. As bittersweet as that would have been, it would have been well in tune with the way that all of Saya's victories cost her a high price in blood and sorrow.

Of course, no show today is going to have a hero kill babies, but I can cheer Blood+ for making me wonder if just maybe Saya would.

[kLaUS]

Its over ?¿ really, im in episode 31, and the history is amazing. Everyone, in here were talking awesome things about it.. It has a bad ending ?¿ its an eureka also ?¿

[jetfire]

It's a great anime I agree, but I found the ending to be very disappointing. Saya's battle with Diva was much too short and Nathan's death was ridiculous.

Actually, Nathan didn't die (he appears at night around the Press, and sais "There is a rumor that you secretly infiltrated Cing Fleches", some more stuff and "You're really strict!". He was wearing a black suit and a Black hat), as you see him halfway through the last episode. I have no clue how he survived though. And I'm glad Haji didn't die, even though it looked like he did. He left the rose for Saya afterwards. On another note, I found the ending pretty predictable. I knew Haji was going to ""sacrifice" himself, and I knew that Saya was not going to become a baby killer. Still, even though those elements were very predictable, they still felt so right. I'm also glad that Kai didn't get together with Saya, because that just would be weird...them being step-siblings and all.

And did David get it on with Julia? She's pregnant.

[Ghostmaster]

Actually, Nathan didn't die (he appears at night around the Press, and sais "There is a rumor that you secretly infiltrated Cing Fleches", some more stuff and "You're really strict!". He was wearing a black suit and a Black hat), as you see him halfway through the last episode. I have no clue how he survived though. And I'm glad Haji didn't die, even though it looked like he did. He left the rose for Saya afterwards. On another note, I found the ending pretty predictable. I knew Haji was going to ""sacrifice" himself, and I knew that Saya was not going to become a baby killer. Still, even though those elements were very predictable, they still felt so right. I'm also glad that Kai didn't get together with Saya, because that just would be weird...them being step-siblings and all.

And did David get it on with Julia? She's pregnant.

I didn't get that part either with Nathan. Why is he alive and was he stronger than Amschel I guess, but what happens to him. And also did David and Julia get it on? Some unanswered questions were still there. I thought the series was really good, not such a great last episode. Haji's death scene was well done I thought. I knew someone had to die in the last episode I thought it would either be David or Haji.

[Kiba]

I didn't get that part either with Nathan. Why is he alive and was he stronger than Amschel I guess, but what happens to him. And also did David and Julia get it on? Some unanswered questions were still there. I thought the series was really good, not such a great last episode. Haji's death scene was well done I thought. I knew someone had to die in the last episode I thought it would either be David or Haji.

Well it was kind of implied that David is the father of Julia's baby because there was no one else in the series that Julia showed any affection for. Also when the hell did Haji become so strong or was Amshel just really weak?

[Ghostmaster]

Well it was kind of implied that David is the father of Julia's baby because there was no one else in the series that Julia showed any affection for. Also when the hell did Haji become so strong or was Amshel just really weak?

I was trying to figure that out too. Had Haji been hiding this power or did he just get some sort of drive at the end. Who knows.

[jetfire]

I didn't get that part either with Nathan. Why is he alive and was he stronger than Amschel I guess, but what happens to him. And also did David and Julia get it on? Some unanswered questions were still there. I thought the series was really good, not such a great last episode. Haji's death scene was well done I thought. I knew someone had to die in the last episode I thought it would either be David or Haji.

To clarify another death that did not happen, Haji didn't die. At the very end after the credits, Kai and Saya's two nieces walk up to Saya's resting place. Kai sees a rose on the ground, and sais something like "I guess he did come back to see her after all". That rose was left by Haji. Plus, Haji had been crushed by debris before from Solomon, so this doesn't really surprise me that he lived

And did you even read the part where I said "I'm glad Haji didn't die, even though it looked like he did"?

[Ghostmaster]

To clarify another death that did not happen, Haji didn't die. At the very end after the credits, Kai and Saya's two nieces walk up to Saya's resting place. Kai sees a rose on the ground, and sais something like "I guess he did come back to see her after all". That rose was left by