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flclluva_123
03-15-2005, 08:37 PM
Before u think this is just one of flclluva's dumb ass threads read it.

I have made this theard to talk about epis. of bleach and your thoughts on them as they come out i am a little late so lets just start with newest one.
bleach web site (http://www.bleach7.com)
2 more days new epi!

shadowflamedx
03-15-2005, 08:51 PM
22 or 23. 23 just came out today. I havent got 23 yet but i will soon after im getting beck 10.

heffer
03-15-2005, 08:59 PM
Ichigo (or what ever his name is) is kicking butt with his sword zangetsu (think thats its name or at least the guy who is inside his sword)

The soul society captains are oozing style and coolness as always....

You just can't help but keep watching

TwistedFaith
03-15-2005, 09:08 PM
Bleach suck you ****ing losers.

Lex
03-15-2005, 09:10 PM
Bleach suck you ****ing losers.

I will cry if this user is banned.

Edit: GODDAMMIT.

SC: This post is borderline spammy. Just a friendly reminder. :)

Tamashii
03-16-2005, 12:04 PM
They're in Soul Society right? Following the manga nicely? I should start on the anime again, I heard it wasn't too bad after all.

Bleach suck you ****ing losers.

I will cry if this user is banned.

Edit: GODDAMMIT.

SC: This post is borderline spammy. Just a friendly reminder. :)


Owned.

AlterGenesis-X
03-16-2005, 12:18 PM
It's been fun. But, the anime has been leaning into a lot of filler lately.

Tremolo
03-16-2005, 12:24 PM
The main problem I think with the anime is that it's moving too fast. It's episode 23 and already they're in the chapter 80 or so region, leading to me to wonder just what they're going to do when they (inevitably) run out of manga. Considering how they've handled some of the stuff so far (*weeps for the Grand Fisher arc*) things aren't looking too great. But we'll just have to wait and see.

Shadowmage
03-16-2005, 07:11 PM
The main problem I think with the anime is that it's moving too fast. It's episode 23 and already they're in the chapter 80 or so region, leading to me to wonder just what they're going to do when they (inevitably) run out of manga. Considering how they've handled some of the stuff so far (*weeps for the Grand Fisher arc*) things aren't looking too great. But we'll just have to wait and see.

They can either drop the project for a while like Hunter x Hunter
or they can filler the living hell out of it a la DBZ.

flclluva_123
03-16-2005, 09:55 PM
Bleach suck you ****ing losers.
two things i bet u never seen it before and hah u got banned. :_lol:
bleach suck you...? wha?!?!?!?!?!?

flclluva_123
03-20-2005, 10:12 PM
epi.23 :D
________________________________________________________________
What the hell is up with rukia does her brother hate her or is it that guy the one that is there when ichigo gets in past the wall?
I think, Azien and Abarai are going to get rukia out of this mess then when ichigo gets there she will be free.
Hights of epi.23 geting to see Ichigo use his new sword to fight a 50ft man with axes bigger then Ichigo.
lows i did not see any
rateing of this epi. 8 out of 10

heffer
03-20-2005, 10:27 PM
next episode - whats that in the sky? its a bird, an airplane, no its ichigo on fire!

etane
03-21-2005, 12:24 AM
The firecracker girl's body. 8 out of 10.

Wolfwood
03-21-2005, 04:09 AM
how long does this anime go for? i heard it only goes until ep 26 but well

if it does end on ep 26 then it seems like they are rushing through it in my opinion

Kagome654
03-21-2005, 05:16 AM
Somebody told me that Bleach is going to end FAIRLY early, animewise, most estimates saying in about the 50's. Frankly I don't know how they're going to pull that off, but it should be interesting to see, assuming it's not just a rumor.

I also really want to see the Ichigo vs Renji fight * <3's Renji*

ShinoMatrix
03-21-2005, 05:46 AM
Well, certainly it feels like another Naruto or One Piece in that it could go for much longer (basically just going by current trends and the manga)... though of course this is just my opinion and should not be taken as gospel...

Kagome654
03-21-2005, 06:06 AM
I'm hoping it doesn't go on as long as Naruto or One Piece (though I love both those anime) It seems to me that Tite Kubo may actually try to wrap it up mangawise at the end of this arc, and they are in the early 170's now, let's say they go to 200, that's fairly short as far as shonen fighting stereotype is concerned, with Naruto in the 250's and One Piece in the 300's somewhere. This is assuming, of course, that he does end it with this arc.

So with the rate the anime is going to the manga I can almost see it ending with under 100 episodes. Obviously this is all speculation though and I really have no idea what I'm talking about.

flclluva_123
03-21-2005, 03:48 PM
can we start to talk about epi.23. :bashhead

heffer
03-22-2005, 09:23 PM
episode 24 - Ichigo proves himself inept at making a spiritual bubble thing... Everyone else learns how to make one quickly.

Benny_
03-23-2005, 01:20 AM
Indeed, if the anime continues to follow the manga chapter by chapter, as it has so far, we're gonna be treated to soem boredom for a while. The first few chapters after they land in the inner section of soul society are a bit dull I reckon. Ichigo isn't due to face any real challenges for ages.

TypicalIdiotFan
03-23-2005, 02:58 PM
OH WELL THANKS FOR THE SPOILERS HEFFER AND BENNY_!!!

Now I'll just go shoot myself.

flclluva_123
03-24-2005, 09:41 PM
episode 24 - Ichigo proves himself inept at making a spiritual bubble thing... Everyone else learns how to make one quickly.
u shut up do spoiler thing

heffer
03-24-2005, 09:47 PM
That was such a broad statement I made... I left no details or anything and everyone knows that ichigo is an idiot, thus is obvious he wouldn't learn as fast as the other characters.


There, I put some spoiler tags just in case. lol, you quoted it, all my effort for nothing.

flclluva_123
03-24-2005, 10:04 PM
here go to the bottom of this page :):):) (http://www.disney.com) What is wrong with luner it is pissen me off :mad: i want 24 and that butthole spoiled it but good thing i did not read it all the way but u suck please do not do that agin realy not cool dude.



edit: Please don't post links to anime download sites. Thanks. ~Kei

Junko
03-25-2005, 09:19 AM
thanks flclluva....jeez am I the only one here who has never dowlaoded an anime of the internet..

I feel like a fool now..

Kei
03-25-2005, 09:23 AM
I'm hoping it doesn't go on as long as Naruto or One Piece (though I love both those anime) It seems to me that Tite Kubo may actually try to wrap it up mangawise at the end of this arc, and they are in the early 170's now, let's say they go to 200, that's fairly short as far as shonen fighting stereotype is concerned, with Naruto in the 250's and One Piece in the 300's somewhere. This is assuming, of course, that he does end it with this arc.

So with the rate the anime is going to the manga I can almost see it ending with under 100 episodes. Obviously this is all speculation though and I really have no idea what I'm talking about.


I honestly don't think that Bleach will end with this arc, there is just too much to cover I think. Especially with the "newly developing changs" in the last few chapters of the manga.

~Kei

shadowflamedx
03-25-2005, 10:16 AM
I'm hoping it doesn't go on as long as Naruto or One Piece (though I love both those anime) It seems to me that Tite Kubo may actually try to wrap it up mangawise at the end of this arc, and they are in the early 170's now, let's say they go to 200, that's fairly short as far as shonen fighting stereotype is concerned, with Naruto in the 250's and One Piece in the 300's somewhere. This is assuming, of course, that he does end it with this arc.

So with the rate the anime is going to the manga I can almost see it ending with under 100 episodes. Obviously this is all speculation though and I really have no idea what I'm talking about.
I doubt it since it currently is the most popular anime right now last time I checked of course XD. Plus It has that feeling it will become just as long as naruto. Bleach episodes have been getting kinda corny. After the fight with Gran mesa

ImperialPanda
03-26-2005, 02:40 PM
52 episodes seems about right for the end of the current story arc. Right now ep 24 = chp 82 so 52 could easily go up to chp 190-200 if they squeeze a few parts.

It will probably end with the current arc cause
everybody's power is growing exponentially.... If they keep going beyond this story arc it's just gonna be another DBZ. And after reading chp 169 I don't think Kubo Tite would be that lame.

And yeah recent eps have been almost filler. But next or 26 on should be pure ownage.

TypicalIdiotFan
04-07-2005, 11:14 AM
Who hates the new intro and exit?

/me frantically waves his hand!

Kagome654
04-07-2005, 11:27 AM
I'm rather amused by the new opening and ending, though I prefer the first opening. I think my fondness for the new set may be because I'm a huge Renji fan and his shirtless fanservice never fails to impress me. Yeah, I'm that shallow.

porkyliquid
04-07-2005, 11:54 AM
I dont like bleach the manga as well as the anime the anime is way better!

Kagome654
04-07-2005, 12:04 PM
Eh? You're one of the first people I've heard who has said that, most Bleach fans seem to prefer the manga, including myself (though I do enjoy the anime a great deal) I'm a little curious, what don't you like as much about the manga?

Moe
04-07-2005, 12:05 PM
Who hates the new intro and exit?

*TIF frantically waves his hand!


/me puts his index finger in the air

porkyliquid
04-07-2005, 12:08 PM
i was just kidding i wanted to see wat people would say i love the manga but the anime is ok. i really hate the new opening and closeing.

currywu
04-07-2005, 12:40 PM
I thought the first set of intro/ending had the best songs. But I guess the current OP song matches the whole saving Rukia theme.

The show isn't as interesting as it used to be. Kon doesn't get any screen time and Rukia's character has been nerfed. I like the pacing so far but I hope they don't continue reshowing the last few minutes of the previous episode before the next one.

TypicalIdiotFan
04-07-2005, 02:18 PM
Clarification:

I'm not all that enthused about the songs. They're just average at best. I was actually talking about the actual intros and exits...

currywu
04-07-2005, 04:42 PM
Let me throw a question out there. After 26 episodes, how does Bleach stack up against other shounen anime?

I'm not too familiar with the genre. Never seen a single episode of Naruto, One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, etc. The 5 episodes of DBZ I saw way back in middle school is my only other taste.

From what I've seen, Bleach has good pacing, no overuse of flashbacks, no drawn-out fights or other flaws that seem to plague shounen anime. So is it one of the better shows out there?

soundchazer
04-07-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm not too familiar with the genre. Never seen a single episode of Naruto, One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, etc. The 5 episodes of DBZ I saw way back in middle school is my only other taste.

You don't know how lucky you are.

Kagome654
04-07-2005, 05:57 PM
You don't know how lucky you are.

*flicks him in the nose* Oh, hush, you're not its target audience. It's intended for gawking teenage boys and vapid girls such as myself, those who seek sophistication need not apply.

As for how Bleach stands up compared to the other popular shonen anime titles, I suppose it depends. It does lack the constant flashbacks of Naruto, as well as the slow pace, and its plot actually seems to be advancing somewhere, unlike One Piece. I'd have to say as shonen series go it's above average. It has a unique style art wise as well as in humor. Once it gets moving it is fast paced and fluid. However it does have the same shonen cliches, for example the 'I R 10X stonger than you!!!111' theme rears its ugly head a couple of times and sometimes the fighting seems redundant and full of silly power ups. However there is an intellegent subplot going on in the background to balance it out. It's bound to be a winner for those who like the genera, but for those who don't, like the venerable soundchazar, it may fail to impress. As for fence sitters I think it has enough charm to generally win them over.

Kiba
04-07-2005, 07:04 PM
I've only made it has far as episode 9 and so far everything seems good.

Tremolo
04-07-2005, 07:38 PM
/me waves the hand of dissent in the air

I like the new opening and ending themes and the accompanying animation! The anime itself is still subpar, but at least they've got the music right.

/me wanders off to read the manga. which is far better. yeah.

Kagome654
04-08-2005, 08:37 AM
I also like the new Opening, some of it was pretty random and certain characters got an odd amount of screen time for not doing anything too exciting around this point in the anime, but all in all I think it came together well.

I also heard someone say that they will be rotating the Divisions pictured in the ending, so it wont always be the sixth, which should be interesting, I want to see a fanservice shirtless Kenpachi, just because...

Kei
04-08-2005, 09:53 AM
I like the new opening also. But mostly becuase I'm a huge Renji fanboy.

Howl, Zabimaru!


~Kei

TypicalIdiotFan
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Episode 31:

Wow. That was very well executed. I like it when I can't predict really what's going to happen. I mean, they could do so many things with this show, because nobody here really is a good guy or a bad guy (yet), so anything that does happen seems tragic in a way.

But I'm glad to see that the conclusion of this episode was done in such a way that makes me realize just what was wrong with Dragon Ball Z. Sure, you can have moments like this in DBZ, but it's done simply for a show off factor. There is no drama. Bleach, however, manages to do everything that DBZ did wrong.

Fluff vs substance. That's DBZ vs Bleach. This episode is proof.

RuKiAsShAdOw
05-10-2005, 09:48 PM
Um, sorry to interrupt, but could any of you point me in the direction of where to view the anime?? I've only read the manga, and I really want to see it in motion and see if it's worth seeing.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-10-2005, 09:57 PM
Um, sorry to interrupt, but could any of you point me in the direction of where to view the anime?? I've only read the manga, and I really want to see it in motion and see if it's worth seeing.

It's only available fansubbed as of right now. Telling you how to get it would be a "no-no".

RuKiAsShAdOw
05-10-2005, 09:58 PM
It's only available fansubbed as of right now. Telling you how to get it would be a "no-no".

Ahh, gotcha. Understandable. . .

Kuragari
05-10-2005, 10:13 PM
You know I noticed after a while when I started watching Bleach that it made me think of Tokyo Underground..

Storyline and characters perhaps even. I mean you have

Rumina - Ichigo
Ruri - Rukia
Ginnosuke - Inoue
The red haired fire dude (can't remember his damn name) - Abarai Renji
The magnet guy - Ganju
Pyron - Rukia's brother (this match up maybe not so much anymore if you're reading the manga)

Can't be bothered thinking up anymore. Anyway in Tokyo Underground you've got a guy who just meets a girl and she's taken back underground where she came from in the first place because she has something an organisation called Company want from her. The guy feels compelled to go after her to save her. There are fights after fights.

Now for Bleach
You have a guy meeting a girl, girl is taken back to where she came from...
...because ultimately she has something a certain somebody wants.
...and the guy goes after her to save her. Fights...lol, Read the manga, they almost haven't stopped fighting since they got to Soul Society.




And the point of this story is....it's the perfect anime for Eek because he loved Tokyo Underground so much. :D

PerfectDeath
05-12-2005, 07:12 PM
BLEACH RULES!!
i like this anime because the antagonists are funny ^_^
"forehead wonds, even shallow, can bleed for hours if you don't cover it."
*whipes forhead*
"OY TH THATS CHEATING!!"
"NO IT'S NOT!!! IT'S CALLED 'KNOWLEDGE' YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE 'WOW HE'S SO EXPERIENCED!!"
i loved that part.

Soleta
05-30-2005, 06:52 PM
Anyone who hasn't seen up to eps 31, no look.

Episode 31 didn't end precisely pleasant.. Episode 32 was back story, and 33 was lighthearted filler. And now I can't wait any longer!
Question: Renji lives, right?

Itachi Uchiha
05-30-2005, 07:27 PM
Episode 31 didn't end precisely pleasant.. Episode 32 was back story, and 33 was lighthearted filler. And now I can't wait any longer!
Question: Renji lives, right?
If you want the answer to your question it is below -
Yes, Renji lives, to be beat up again and to continue to live.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-31-2005, 12:11 AM
Episode 32-33:

Hmm. The Renji / Rukia backstory episode was fairly important, I suppose. But episode 33 needs to be shot and buried. Sure it was entertaining, but it is just wasted filler when the rest of us are itching for more of what's going on in Soul Society.

Damn bastard producers and their need for filler. If this was in the original manga, then this applies to the mangaka too. Bastards.

Datsun
05-31-2005, 01:59 AM
I'm glad they took a step back and did the Renji episode actually. The show was beginning to feel a little unbalance with too many fights happening. I mean, the fight scenes are really cool and everything, but I was kinda expecting a bit more stealth and/or diplomacy in getting Rukia back.

Oh well. I guess the public always likes a good fight.

Kei
05-31-2005, 09:03 AM
Episode 32-33:
Damn bastard producers and their need for filler. If this was in the original manga, then this applies to the mangaka too. Bastards.

It sort of existed in the manga. For a few chapters, there was a one-panel bit that continued at the end of each chapter about what was happening in the real world.

We got to see more Ururu and Jinta, so I don't care :P

~Kei

TypicalIdiotFan
06-01-2005, 11:52 PM
Episode 34:

Much of this episode is basically the calm after the storm. Or maybe calm before the storm? The ending of the episode will let you know...

DUHN DUHN DUUUUUUUUHHHNNN!!!

No seriously...

Maybe I'd have given more a shit about Captain Aizen's death if we'd actually had time to know him before he ended up as the human nailboard. As it is, all we know is that he's a nice guy and apparently rather suspicious of Ichimaru. Probably all of this will be explained, but for now, it has virtually no impact on me.

Which brings me to my beef with Bleach right now: Its doing the big cast thing, and doing it about as well as Mahou Sensei Negima. That is, barely hanging onto my ability to care who these people are. We have a bazillion squads with captains and co captains and even underlings who are running around Soul Society like chickens with their nuts cut off. Except for the barest superficial levels of knowledge, we know jack diddly squat about them. While I like Bleach's ability to make it that this fight between Ichigo et al and Soul Society isn't necessarily about good vs evil, the fact that there's some deep rooted intrigue going on amongst the Captains is basically lost on us right now.

We've only gotten to see a mere fraction of the stories and backstories invovled with some of the squad members, and the rest are just basically there. Even the squad captains are given virtually nada. If you haven't gone and spoilered yourself on some Bleach website by now, you might want to think about it just so you can actually find out the NAMES of some of the Captains. Yeesh.

Soul Society itself doesn't even make sense. This is where you go when you die? A pseudo feudal Japan type setting where you can be just as miserable dead as you were alive? Meanwhile some souls can be picked to become Death Gods in order to bring more souls to this "not so rewarding" afterlife? Jesus.

Even the black guy with full dreadlocks has a Japanese name! The ****!? Is this more Japanese egoism? Like it was bad enough that the entire universe spoke Japanese in Tenchi Muyo? Good grief! My kingdom for some multiculturalism!

UndeadBear
06-02-2005, 06:41 PM
I've been enjoying this series because I like some of the male characters and the general concept of storyline is interesting.

But I agree that Soul Society doesn't make any sense at all. I haven't read any of the manga, so maybe it'll become clearer later on in the anime?

I don't think the concept of Soul Society is consistent within the anime itself either. Err...my memory for the series is a little hazy, but doesn't Rukia make a lot of positive comments about Soul Society? So far, from what we've seen of Soul Society, life SUCKS. There is nothing good about it. There is so much violence, prejudice, class discrimination, bad living conditions. It's far, far worse than being alive.

In addition, what's is the point of the parrot storyline? All that effort to save a soul and promises of meeting his mother...and the result? Doesn't make any sense. Being 'saved' to go to Soul Society doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Linuts
06-03-2005, 09:01 PM
Episode 34:

Much of this episode is basically the calm after the storm. Or maybe calm before the storm? The ending of the episode will let you know...

DUHN DUHN DUUUUUUUUHHHNNN!!!

No seriously...

Maybe I'd have given more a shit about Captain Aizen's death if we'd actually had time to know him before he ended up as the human nailboard. As it is, all we know is that he's a nice guy and apparently rather suspicious of Ichimaru. Probably all of this will be explained, but for now, it has virtually no impact on me.


I'm taking a wild guess here... But from what I've watched so far I think that


Aizen is not dead yet? o_O


He looks too suspiciously nice to me.


Even the black guy with full dreadlocks has a Japanese name! The ****!? Is this more Japanese egoism? Like it was bad enough that the entire universe spoke Japanese in Tenchi Muyo? Good grief! My kingdom for some multiculturalism!


Well it's no surprise, since it is made in Japan :p. BUt the whole Soul Society thing has too much contradictions... Perhaps it has something to do with whatever conspiracy that's happening in the background o_O.

TypicalIdiotFan
06-03-2005, 11:56 PM
Well it's no surprise, since it is made in Japan :p. BUt the whole Soul Society thing has too much contradictions... Perhaps it has something to do with whatever conspiracy that's happening in the background o_O.

What? Clever suspense and intrigue? Oh don't get my hopes up.

UndeadBear
06-04-2005, 01:50 AM
Ugh, episode 33 and 34 plummeted my opinion of this series. I am planning to read the manga, just because I have so many questions I want answered, so hopefully if and when I watch more anime episodes, it won't be so bad.

Kiba
06-04-2005, 03:12 PM
It's good to see that it's picking up after the boring Renji/Rukia backstory and all that mindless running around Soul Society.

TypicalIdiotFan
06-24-2005, 07:13 PM
Episodes 36:

At this point, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross had managed to tell one of the greatest space opera stories ever. Meanwhile...

They're trying very damn hard to throw in comedic relief at points that it isn't needed. Ichigo's confrontation with Kenpachi has been built up long in coming, and Yoruichi's warning about the Captains seems to be holding true, but having the little vice captain (cute as she is) basically doing nothing but try to be comical here just kills the tension.

Moving on..

Episode 37:

Chad has been one of my favorites since the show began, and what we get out of this episode is a lot of good fun from the big Mexican. And yet, Chad proves he's smarter then everybody else by actually having a conversation with the Captain before fighting him. Still, each person has to do their duty and the result is basically anti-climactic to the episode, but appropriate.

So now what? Seems that the Captains are going to basically pick apart the team. Ichigo's busy, Chad's got one, guess now it's the Quincy's turn. At this point, I think it's basically been established that Orihime is about useless in a fighting situation.

But do me a favor, Bleach, and get on with it. I like the backstory we get in some of these episodes, but c'mon already.

Lupin the 3rd
06-24-2005, 11:23 PM
so far i have only seen up to eps 5 and i have to say the show is very intresting! Cant wait to see more of it!

Also how many eps are there gonna be? Is it gonna be a show with more then 100 eps?

flclluva_123
06-25-2005, 11:59 PM
i think sooo

icelava
06-26-2005, 02:17 AM
Well, certainly it feels like another Naruto or One Piece in that it could go for much longer (basically just going by current trends and the manga)... though of course this is just my opinion and should not be taken as gospel...Well considering that it's done by Studio Pierrot as well - no wonder i caught that same putrid smell of awful direction with draggy episodes and last-minute character developments. I really really really wonder when will studios learn not to produce sub-standard quality based on incomplete manga material.

I agree just about the only things that shine in this show are the comical witty exchanges between opponents and comrades (loved eps 37). It just gets boring when they all go serious.

Soul Society itself doesn't even make sense.
だね? That's one of the lamest aspects of this story (http://forums.gameaxis.com/showthread.php?t=1048006).

TypicalIdiotFan
06-26-2005, 03:18 AM
だね? That's one of the lamest aspects of this story (http://forums.gameaxis.com/showthread.php?t=1048006).

Glad I'm not the only one questioning the logic of Soul Society. Y'know, if you take everybody out of "Living / Dead" type existences, and just put them in a normal Earth environment fighting against things from other dimensions instead, the whole thing works. But the setup they have for Soul Society, dying, reincarnation, and whether or not any of it is actually true or bullshit, is such a glaring piece of shoddy writing.

PerfectDeath
06-27-2005, 11:24 PM
as far as i'm concerned soul society seems to be quite poorly thought out... so thats probably why they don't go into depth on it that much, this is because... wouldn't it get crowded after about 1 quadrabillion souls inhabit the place... but maybe thats why you can die in soul society?
eitehr way the story progresses along without really depending on soul societie's understanding, it doesn't affect the characters, it's just a place to fight.

Datsun
06-28-2005, 01:06 AM
Honestly, I thought Bleach was pretty well done before they got to Soul Society, and at the moment it's not bad per se, with the action mostly taking centre stage. But I think they did a good job setting the scene back in the real world with the initial details of Hollows and whatnot and how they desribed Soul Society from their brief conversations, but they simply haven't been able to follow it through.

So when I first saw what Soul Society looked like, it was a lot different from what I had visualized from what Rukia and others has said about it earlier. This brings me back to the whole 'Bash Thru the Front Door' action that they've come to, which I didn't really think would happen, as Soul Society was made out to be a lot more 'cheerier' in the characters personal accounts.

icelava
06-28-2005, 01:37 AM
eitehr way the story progresses along without really depending on soul societie's understanding, it doesn't affect the characters, it's just a place to fight.That is the so unfortunate case right now - the entire spiritual system is just a cheap shallow arena for teenagers to let loose their belligerence.

TypicalIdiotFan
06-29-2005, 01:10 PM
Bleach Jump Festa OAV:

Is basically an episode we've already seen. I figure this was probably actually made first a while ago and for some reason was just now brought forth (you can tell, because the two lines that "Kon" has sounds like a different voice, or just a different way of doing it). I think I know why, too. It has nothing to do with the episode itself, but the Omake thing about the Shinigami in Soul Society. Some of the images in that would have been spoilers a while ago, but they're nothing we haven't seen by now.

Anyway, this OAV brings up a question that I had wanted to ask but forgot about. Ichigo is totally a mama's boy, and his mom is killed by a Hollow. Considering his death march towards slaughtering the thing that took his mom's life, why hasn't he continued with that? Moreover, one of the first things I'd do once I got to Soul Society is find out if my Mom was there somewhere. If she wasn't, that means that bastard who killed her either still has her soul or has turned her into a Hollow as well. I'd probably go on another mad quest to put my Mom to rest.

So I guess what I am saying is that in addition to Soul Society itself being a big black hole of a plot element, the whole Ichigo lovin' his mama thing is just a plot device and nothing particularly dramatic to focus on. Too bad, that would have made a hell of a story arc by itself. I'd have enjoyed it anyway. And since the manga isn't over, maybe they'll get to it. But since Ichigo at this point is stronger then Jesus, the resulting fight with Grand (Ground?) Fisher would be a little less then satisfying. Even if they upped that thing's power with some unbelievable bullshit reasoning, it still wouldn't quite work now.

Ah well. All my great ideas wasted.

Kei
06-29-2005, 02:05 PM
So I guess what I am saying is that in addition to Soul Society itself being a big black hole of a plot element, the whole Ichigo lovin' his mama thing is just a plot device and nothing particularly dramatic to focus on. Too bad, that would have made a hell of a story arc by itself. I'd have enjoyed it anyway. And since the manga isn't over, maybe they'll get to it. But since Ichigo at this point is stronger then Jesus, the resulting fight with Grand (Ground?) Fisher would be a little less then satisfying. Even if they upped that thing's power with some unbelievable bullshit reasoning, it still wouldn't quite work now.

I imagine if the Grand Fisher became way stronger, the reasoning wouldn't be so stupid.

As it stands right now, Ichigo and Co. JUST returned to the real world after spending chapter after chapter in Soul Society. But also, at the end of the Soul Society arc, Gin, Aizen and Tousen go off somewhere. What the current theory is, is that they went off to the realm where the hollows come from. I imagine Aizen will use Urahara's device to make the Grand-Fisher into one of those Hollow-Shinigami hybrids, much like Ichigo himself is.

~Kei

VLaD
07-03-2005, 05:48 AM
At the moment I have only seen up to episode 13, but so far I am enjoying it, its not my favorite series but enjoyable none the less.

Mr.Hill
07-07-2005, 12:44 PM
i love ever thing about bleach but i live in america so im waitng on bleach 8 it kinda suks :thumbup:

Junko
07-07-2005, 12:47 PM
PM me Hill, I'll direct you to a web site for that kinda thing. :)

Mr.Hill
07-07-2005, 12:51 PM
ok

Mr.Hill
07-07-2005, 12:53 PM
im talking about the manga

TypicalIdiotFan
07-07-2005, 02:35 PM
PM me Hill, I'll direct you to a web site for that kinda thing. :)

Bad Junko. Shame.

And there are places for the manga too...

Lupin the 3rd
07-07-2005, 03:35 PM
Bad Junko. Shame.

And there are places for the manga too...

Amen Brotha! :thumbup:

TypicalIdiotFan
07-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Episode 39:

I think the only thing keeping this show going is the testosterone fests we're having with Ichigo himself. And yet, it seems like everybody has their limit.

Well I'm lying, there is more to this. Something that's been brewing for a while now is what Ichigo is and how he's going to turn out. Someone spoilered something for me a while ago, but the more I think about it, the more I should have realized it at the time. I could see Ichigo, his inner self, and Zangetsu being a great angle of struggling for dominance. It'd be an interesting thing to watch. But right now it sort of feels as though whatever is effecting Ichigo is going to consume him eventually. I like the idea of "inevitability". It gives you something to look forward to down the road.

Kei
07-13-2005, 01:39 AM
I imagine if the Grand Fisher became way stronger, the reasoning wouldn't be so stupid.

As it stands right now, Ichigo and Co. JUST returned to the real world after spending chapter after chapter in Soul Society. But also, at the end of the Soul Society arc, Gin, Aizen and Tousen go off somewhere. What the current theory is, is that they went off to the realm where the hollows come from. I imagine Aizen will use Urahara's device to make the Grand-Fisher into one of those Hollow-Shinigami hybrids, much like Ichigo himself is.

~Kei


Hey look. I was right about the Grand Fisher. Although I in no way prediced Ichigo's dad being a shinigami.

~Kei

DarkKanti
07-13-2005, 09:04 AM
Hey look. I was right about the Grand Fisher. Although I in no way prediced Ichigo's dad being a shinigami.

~Kei


I honestly don't think anyone could have foretold Ichigo's dad as a shinigami. It just seems too unreal. It's a real kick in the pants in terms of surprises. I just about fell on the floor laughing when I saw him in the uniform.

Junko
07-13-2005, 09:31 AM
Bad Junko. Shame.

And there are places for the manga too...


Wait... what?


I dont download...

I know Hill in real life and he wont shut up about it. I dont care what he does.


The mangas take forever here so I'll just wait until it finishes.

And apparently I have something to look forward to reading that last post.

The Dark Prince
07-15-2005, 04:45 AM
I have the first two volumes of the manga and love it, it's like a cross between Yu Yu Hakasho and Shaman King.

TypicalIdiotFan
07-22-2005, 03:42 AM
Wait... what?

I would just like to point out that Junko was the first person to say "Wait.. what?" before I actually coined the face. I didn't rip her off or anything, I just now noticed that she said this well before my Shuffle pre-re-view. Props where props are due.

Episode 41:

Heh, this is one of the first enjoyable episodes in a while. Although I am getting into the testosterone fests that have been the last few episodes, this particular one showed us quite a bit other then reiatsu and zanpakutos.

First, that oogly googly Hollow mask of Ichigo's comes back again, which sparked a scene that pissed me off. They should have shown them throwing away that mask back when it happened, instead of just in flashback. This is what I mentioned in the Tide-Blue Line review about things happening so we can see them and remember them. The storytellers blatantly pointing things like that out for us is just a cheap way of making points whilest having no mystery whatsoever. In short, I think it's lame.

Second, Yoruichi is hot. By now, you've probably been spoilered at least a bit on certain things, and it's virtually impossible to get a Bleach spoiler without it having something to do with Yoruichi. And so, Yoruichi manages to pull off possibly one of the most hilarious scenes in Bleach.

Was it pink, Ichigo?

Third, the long awaited encounter happened. No, I don't mean Byakuya vs Ichigo. I mean Ichigo meeting up again with Rukia. A lot of shit has happened since they were seperated, even though not a lot of actual TIME has gone by. It's amazing, but even though I know it hasn't been that long, I did get a feeling, with them, tha there actually has been quite enough happening in that time that it felt like 10 years ago. Understandably, Rukia is an emotional mess. Women. Yeesh.

TypicalIdiotFan
07-28-2005, 02:26 AM
Episode 42:

God damnit.

I take back everything I ever said good about this show.

Yoruichi decides to pull Ichigo aside, via some really inane reasons, in order to make him stronger to he can beat Byakuya.

Look, not that I didn't see it coming or anything, but this is the third... or fourth... or perhaps fifth time someone, or something, has made Ichigo stronger since the show started, and we haven't even gotten to 52 episodes yet. By this point, even Goku had only gone through the "dead" training and the 100x Gravity bullshit.

My point? This is getting tedious. How many times can Ichigo get slashed, gashed, biffed, bruised, cut, gored, impaled, bled, and otherwise had the shit kicked out of him before he dies? The blood loss alone he's suffered since coming to Soul Society is tremendous. I know that they've used some metaphysical magical mumbojumbo BS to cure him, but human bodies are still mortal. You can't possibly go through all this shit, even on the fantastic level of Bleach.

Yeah I know, it's anime. Gah.

Anyway, so essentially we get to waste more damn time watching Ichigo train. Or worse, watch Ishida and Inoue doing things. Look, I love how cute Inoue is, and I love how big her tits are and how much they jiggle, and I loved the idea to steal Shinigami uniforms (though it didn't seem to help Ichigo to have a Shinigami uniform...), but these two are filler and a waste of time. I don't care even if they get in a fight with someone soon. Hell, I enjoyed watching Chad's little side actions more then theirs.

Meh. I'll keep watching, because I really want to and I'm just annoyed at this particular episode and it's developments.

A-R@D
07-28-2005, 03:32 AM
As someone who has read the manga I say don't get too disheartened, it gets a little better, though it doesnt approach the entertainment level of the first episodes.

UndeadBear
07-28-2005, 04:02 PM
Although I do have a lot of major problems with this series, I really enjoy watching it. I can ignore the fact that Soul Society doesn't make any sense at all. I can ignore the general 'stupidity' of a rescue effort that has a handful of teenagers blindly assaulting an entire world, and somehow winning, even though they aren't even working together. I can ignore the strange way that the animators randomly insert slapstick comedic moments into serious scenes. I can ignore the miraculous learning speed of the characters. I can ignore the fact that new characters keep getting introduced for no reason whatsoever. (Note that I say 'ignore' rather than 'accept' because if I really stop to think about it, I get annoyed and frustrated.)

Why?

Because this series is dripping with style. I love the characters. I love the way they are drawn. I love the fact that most of the characters are a mix of good and evil. I love the swords and the special powers. I love the overly vicious fighting. Oh, the women are really hot, even though the fan service isn't too overt.

LordBlazer
07-28-2005, 07:12 PM
Although I do have a lot of major problems with this series, I really enjoy watching it. I can ignore the fact that Soul Society doesn't make any sense at all. I can ignore the general 'stupidity' of a rescue effort that has a handful of teenagers blindly assaulting an entire world, and somehow winning, even though they aren't even working together. I can ignore the strange way that the animators randomly insert slapstick comedic moments into serious scenes. I can ignore the miraculous learning speed of the characters. I can ignore the fact that new characters keep getting introduced for no reason whatsoever. (Note that I say 'ignore' rather than 'accept' because if I really stop to think about it, I get annoyed and frustrated.)

Why?

Because this series is dripping with style. I love the characters. I love the way they are drawn. I love the fact that most of the characters are a mix of good and evil. I love the swords and the special powers. I love the overly vicious fighting. Oh, the women are really hot, even though the fan service isn't too overt.
lol I love those arkward comedic moments during a serious situations.You know it doesn't keep you at the edge of the seat.

flclluva_123
08-04-2005, 03:36 AM
it is so cool when joins his sword and get all strange
PM me to join the i love bleach club

lol I love those arkward comedic moments during a serious situations.You know it doesn't keep you at the edge of the seat.
they poot u back in real world
I honestly don't think anyone could have foretold Ichigo's dad as a shinigami. It just seems too unreal. It's a real kick in the pants in terms of surprises. I just about fell on the floor laughing when I saw him in the uniform.
plezz dont talk about the bleach manga in the anime forum
some people are going to be like :whip: flclluva y do u have to be so dumb
but i like diff forums not to be talked about in others that is y they made them
it is just the manga goes so far and we will not be talking about the same thing

TypicalIdiotFan
08-04-2005, 03:49 AM
I need a flclluva_123 translator bot.

Episode 43:

Focusing on that sick ****er of a Captain, and boy is he a twisted biotch. I like him. He needs his own show. "Cooking with Kurotsuchi."

Oirhime continues to be useless. I love her and all, but c'mon. One night of training and she can do the summoning of her guys without words? Beh.

Ishida better not survive this fight. If Chad can't, and Ichigo has a problem fighting certain Captains, then Ishida shouldn't stand a farkin' chance either.

Y'know, this show would be a lot more interesting if the head of the Gotei 13 actually made an appearence and started explaining why he made these weirdos the Captains. Of course, I keep forgetting that Soul Society makes no damn sense at all anyway.

flclluva_123
08-04-2005, 04:17 AM
every time i get stuff from other places then lunar it messes up it is funny to see my bleach43 like they will be walking and then it will cut to a dif part of that epi what is a good place to get anime from

the messed one was from bleachsociety

Kei
08-04-2005, 07:13 AM
Ishida better not survive this fight. If Chad can't, and Ichigo has a problem fighting certain Captains, then Ishida shouldn't stand a farkin' chance either.

Ishida, Chad, and Ichigo are completely different people. Ichigo is lucky that his reiatsu is powerfully strong for next to no reason at all (Ok, there is a reason, but that is besides the point). Chad also is relying pretty much on brute strength.

Ishida on the other hand has trained non stop learning the techniques of the Quincy Archer from his grandfather. He has actually spent time in life wondering what he is capable of, and it shows. Plus he is the grand master at sewing. I don't know what that has to do with anything, but it does. You'll be surprised and impressed at what he can do, just give it some time.

~Kei

JaQuais J.
08-04-2005, 09:20 PM
I thought for sure episode 43 would be about chad kicking that gay captains ass, there's no way they can to let chad get bitched out like that and not do anything about it!!I hope not, chads the man.

fugupinkeye
08-04-2005, 10:00 PM
I thought for sure episode 43 would be about chad kicking that gay captains ass, there's no way they can to let chad get bitched out like that and not do anything about it!!I hope not, chads the man.

Agreed. Chad is pretty damn cool. THere is no way he is done.

flclluva_123
08-05-2005, 03:37 PM
43
that was a cool epi but damn the people who make it that is what i hate about bleach it was geting cool i was geting goosebumps from it then to be continded. I dont like that guy that look like a clown i dont member his name.
he is weird i dont want to know what he does to that girl that he made.
who do u think is going to win.

Kiba
08-05-2005, 03:42 PM
43
that was a cool epi but damn the people who make it that is what i hate about bleach it was geting cool i was geting goosebumps from it then to be continded. I dont like that guy that look like a clown i dont member his name.
he is weird i dont want to know what he does to that girl that he made.
who do u think is going to win.
It's obvious that Ishida is going to win.

Tremolo
08-05-2005, 03:43 PM
It's obvious that Ishida is going to win.

He does!

/manga foresight powah

flclluva_123
08-05-2005, 03:45 PM
well mamb that is what they want u to think and that guy is realy strong and it is going to take chad to do it too. or mamb that girl will do sumthin to help him

Tremolo
08-05-2005, 03:52 PM
well mamb that is what they want u to think and that guy is realy strong and it is going to take chad to do it too. or mamb that girl will do sumthin to help him

But I've read the manga. I know all! ;)

/me stops looking superior as crazed Bleach anime fans stare daggers at him

And..."mamb"?

Kei
08-05-2005, 11:47 PM
But I've read the manga. I know all! ;)

* Tremolo stops looking superior as crazed Bleach anime fans stare daggers at him

And..."mamb"?

Whats funny is, for someone who doesn't read the manga, he has such a collossal spoiler in his sig! Big grats to flclluva_123!


~Kei

DarkKanti
08-06-2005, 01:03 AM
Whats funny is, for someone who doesn't read the manga, he has such a collossal spoiler in his sig! Big grats to flclluva_123!


~Kei

He hasn't even read the manga and he has that in his sig? LOL.

Anyways, from what I've seen and read of Bleach the manga is better. As to whom is going to win this battle...

Tremolo's right.

I too have the legendary manga foresight powah.

icelava
08-06-2005, 07:12 AM
Whats funny is, for someone who doesn't read the manga, he has such a collossal spoiler in his sig! Big grats to flclluva_123!That may be the very problem. ;-)

JaQuais J.
08-06-2005, 08:26 PM
Whats funny is, for someone who doesn't read the manga, he has such a collossal spoiler in his sig! Big grats to flclluva_123!


~KeiDamn straight, ruined a surprize for me....thanks a lot luva :moon:

flclluva_123
08-06-2005, 10:25 PM
sorry i thought that was fromfor when he is in the well like thing damn that messed it up for me
i will change it back when it happens

tsiki
08-07-2005, 03:55 PM
I can't imagine Ishida losing here. Too bad since the captain he's fighting is an interesting character (even though fairly annoying too).

TypicalIdiotFan
08-10-2005, 05:35 PM
Episode 44:

I have a feeling that episode should have come off more emotional then it was. I don't know why, but considering the weight of the situation, I didn't care. Perhaps it was because it reeked of being too convenient and had no buildup whatsoever. If we'd been told some facts about what happened before it happened, and I mean several episodes ago, I might have cared. At this point, what we do know about the subject in question has been minimal since the show's focus has been mostly on other people.

Is that vague enough for you, flclluva? No spoilers here.

Neo-Hunter
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
i think it might go to at least 100.

Frog
08-11-2005, 07:07 AM
i think it might go to at least 100.

Are you talking about episode count cause if you are im almost positive they said it was only going to be 52 episodes.

TypicalIdiotFan
08-11-2005, 07:49 AM
Are you talking about episode count cause if you are im almost positive they said it was only going to be 52 episodes.

They're at 44 now. They'd better get crackin' on some sort of resolution.

Miroku90
08-19-2005, 01:06 PM
If you ask me I think Bleach is going to be like Kenshin length. For all the people who said 52 they are all bakas! If you ask me it would be too stupid to end it after this story arc. There are still too many issues like Urahara, Yoruichi, Ganjyu's brother's death, Ichimaru Gin, The Kuchiki family, and might I mention the reason why there are shinigamis! They still have to deal with Hollows! Right now i've just seen episode 45 and to tell the truth it was just about reuniting the crew. Is that bague enough? If they end Bleach at episode 52 I will renounce Bleach as my favourite anime.

Tremolo
08-19-2005, 02:11 PM
If you ask me I think Bleach is going to be like Kenshin length. For all the people who said 52 they are all bakas! If you ask me it would be too stupid to end it after this story arc. There are still too many issues like Urahara, Yoruichi, Ganjyu's brother's death, Ichimaru Gin, The Kuchiki family, and might I mention the reason why there are shinigamis! They still have to deal with Hollows! Right now i've just seen episode 45 and to tell the truth it was just about reuniting the crew. Is that bague enough? If they end Bleach at episode 52 I will renounce Bleach as my favourite anime.

There's currently not enough manga to animate for 100 episodes.

Secondly, they've rushed through what manga material they DO have far too fast.

It may be more than 52 episodes, but it sure as hell won't be 100.

PerfectDeath
08-20-2005, 01:07 PM
ya i've noticed some of the manga stuff took longer, but was taken up in the anime as if i was reading slow or sumthing.

Saya-biki
08-20-2005, 01:41 PM
:newbie:
I'm a Bleach n00b
I ignored the manga and the anime entirely for the most part until recently

so I have a lot to catch up on (especially because I'm downloading them one at a time)
I've seen 1-11
I rather like it...it's a little different then the anime, but many parts work better animated ;)
It's a good series so far...not the best anime series I've ever seen, but good

I kinda like the manga better...but thats easier and harder to get at the same time (vol 9 in Oct! I don't dl manga:suspiciou...unless it's hentai)

and as for the amount of episode...I doubt it will go to 100+

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 03:52 PM
I like bleach alot i would say it is one of the best anime i have ever seen, and 52/53 was realy good alittle over doen it on the blood for Rengi but other then that realy realy good. Can not wait tell next epi.:hyper:

KiraraKim
10-13-2005, 04:08 PM
I can't believe this anime is going to be less than 100 episodes unless they are stopping at the Rukia kidnapped arc and for a popular shonen series that seems unlikely.

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 07:29 PM
Very unlikely, so unlikely that i dont even want to think about it. Well ya i that would suck if it ended so soon i might even cry T_T im realy in to the anime and stuff.

DarkKanti
10-13-2005, 09:23 PM
flclluva_123, once you're banned it's common courtesy to to walk away and not come back. Creating multiple usernames is usually frowned upon and is met with an immediate ban once the mods find out.

:D

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 09:39 PM
s
Is the 52/53 from lunar just the epi. because it says special is it just talking about how it is longer

Shadowmage
10-13-2005, 09:50 PM
flclluva_123, once you're banned it's common courtesy to to walk away and not come back. Creating multiple usernames is usually frowned upon and is met with an immediate ban once the mods find out.

:D
...

Even if he really isn't flclluva_123, he won't last long...

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 09:51 PM
y do u say that

DarkKanti
10-13-2005, 09:54 PM
...

Even if he really isn't flclluva_123, he won't last long...

Goto flclluva_123's profile in the front of this thread, check his email address, now go back to Zaraki101's profile, check his email address. 'Nuff said.

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 09:57 PM
ya...:_insane:

DarkKanti
10-13-2005, 09:59 PM
ya...:_insane:

You hiding your email address isn't going to fool anyone. A mod can check your IP address and that's all it takes.

zaraki101
10-13-2005, 10:02 PM
:fighting: they will if u dont shut up so wat if im flclluva_123 i was bord i just wanted to see what people had to say about the new epis. of bleach then i wanted to post bann me like a care i go on like 4 forums i was banned for a dumb reason anyway i asked for a link to the family guy movie so i could get it i did not think they would care if i told them to pm me grrr:fighting:

Datsun
10-14-2005, 08:59 PM
Huh... Well anyway, back on topic...

Well, it has to be said that this show just keeps getting worse, story telling wise, the longer this Soul Society arc continues. I mean, c'mon, they're probably better off starting all over again just as they come to Soul Society and fill in those humongous sized plot holes.

Episodes 52-53 was all over the place, with the last cliffhanger ending with Kenpachi, then going on to a flashback of rukia's and then we're "treated" to a fight with Renji and Kuchiki Bak-whatserface. It puzzles me as to how Renji would get his bankai and appear stronger than Ichigo, with the amount of down time he's had from his injuries, but oh well, I guess it's a comparatively minor detail. And I'm not sure if it's the version I had, but the panning on this episode seemed appalling. Also the dialogue between Captain Kuchiki and Renji seemed particularly bad as well (though that may be the fault of the sloppy translations) - their conversation just seemed devoid of anything good like sharp wit, or perhaps a tension that can come about from good character development. Captain Kuchiki's just a generic uncaring bad guy, whilst Renji seems like a weaker version of Ichigo.

The Kenpachi fight, in my opinion was better, much better. Even though Kenpachi's rather simplistic need to fight bigger, better opponents is pretty low-brow, he still makes for a rather entertaining character that you can root for, due mostly to the fight he had with Ichigo earlier.

So there's still light at the end of the tunnel for this show, with entertainment value being considerably higher than its technical aspects.

KiraraKim
10-15-2005, 04:47 AM
Captain Kuchiki's just a generic uncaring bad guy, whilst Renji seems like a weaker version of Ichigo

I don't want to spoil anything but I'll just say that things aren't always what they seem.

Though I will say that while I find Bleach to be fun I don't think it is anything amazing. But sometimes just fun is enough. I also happen to like the soul society story the best so far because it introduced an influx of interesting characters.

DarkKanti
10-15-2005, 12:10 PM
It puzzles me as to how Renji would get his bankai and appear stronger than Ichigo, with the amount of down time he's had from his injuries, but oh well, I guess it's a comparatively minor detail.

Actually, it was mentioned that Renji had just about achieved his bankai. Remember it usually takes ten years to obtain it, which means Renji has probably been training with his bankai for ten years now and has just now unlocked it.

Captain Kuchiki's just a generic uncaring bad guy, whilst Renji seems like a weaker version of Ichigo.

I'm going to agree with KiraraKim on this one and just say, "Things are often more than they appear."

Hooray for the power of Manga Foresight! :D

Kitsurai
10-15-2005, 12:28 PM
I also happen to like the soul society story the best so far because it introduced an influx of interesting characters.
If by influx you mean influx^2...or yeah just a pretty overwhelming influx. I'd say however that 52-53 regained some of the focus that was lost during this whole arc, for me at least. It's still a little all over the place though ^^;.
I don't want to spoil anything but I'll just say that things aren't always what they seem.
Heh, thank you. Just because of that, I've got a little eagerness/enthusiasm for the show again.

Miroku90
10-15-2005, 05:12 PM
It puzzles me as to how Renji would get his bankai and appear stronger than Ichigo, with the amount of down time he's had from his injuries, but oh well, I guess it's a comparatively minor detail.

There are already hints in those episodes that suggest that he had already been training to achieve Bankai. Renji does say that his ultimate goal is to surpass Byakuya and defeat him.

Captain Kuchiki's just a generic uncaring bad guy, whilst Renji seems like a weaker version of Ichigo.

In episode 51 a clue is given as to why he is cold and uncaring. Hint is the picture of the woman that looks like Rukia who he calls Hisana.

Look closely enough in each episode and there are tiny clues given. Just put those tiny pieces together and you'll get a bigger picture.

Datsun
10-15-2005, 05:49 PM
Come to think of it, this is probably the wrong thread (with it being a poll and all).... *Shrugs* Meh.

I also happen to like the soul society story the best so far because it introduced an influx of interesting characters.
I must admit the whole squad system is pretty cool, but just a fairly shallow excuse for more fights - it's pretty hard to keep track of everyone.

My only problem with Renji getting his Bankai Is the fact he got trashed by Ichigo beforehand, which also would also suggest he's, ya know, weaker. But I'll admit I forgot about Renji trying to achieve his Bankai, so I guess he'd better have something to show for training 10 years! :)

But my point still stands about the fight - I mean, I have no doubt in retrospect it'll be different, and it may have been unfair to perhaps have generalized before Kuchiki's story is revealed, but the fight itself seemed somewhat unimportant to what it should have been, and that, I attribute to a lack of of any solid past interactions between Renji and Kuchiki Byakuya their backgrounds, or in fact anything for Kuchiki.

But at least I can look forward to some sort of character development later on.

Anime Obsessed
11-13-2005, 09:44 PM
wow..this thread is outdated! Eps 50+ has come out already! This series is starting to feel a little bit too DBZish to me. Jumping from fight to fight to stall is almost as frustrating as the ol' DBZ staring contests. IDK...watching anime is cool because you get to see the characters in motion, but I personally prefer mangas because they're usually more informative. Spoiler alerts are pointless, people will read them anyways JUST because it's right in front of their noses. Knowledge is temptation. Luckily, I'm up to speed on the mangas.

PsychoSaiya-jin
11-14-2005, 05:39 PM
I'm not going to spoil anything but there are going to be some BIG twists coming in the next few eps.

This arc is coming to an end very soon too.
There'll probably be a break soon afterwards so that the manga can get further ahead.

Major Tom
11-14-2005, 07:34 PM
Just my 5 cents.......my brother and I were discussing the manga and were the anime is at in relation to it (which I haven't read, but he's seen some and been keeping a track of it), and we reckon it'll end up in the 70 or so episode range.

Like many people here, I find Belach fun. I think the key element to enjoying Bleach is to check your brain at the door. That way, things like the nature of Soul Society don't seem to matter all that much.

Knives
11-16-2005, 09:18 PM
epsiode 58 is money in the bankai

Major Tom
12-05-2005, 06:13 PM
Finally got around to ranting. I saw ep.59 last week and frankly I was disappointed. I thought the end was a copout When:

Ichigo asks Byakuya why he was so intent on killing Rukia, I was expecting something like 'she has shamed the name of the Kukichi clan' or something along lines of the nobility, or something like 'she's not Hisana', the girl in the picture on the shrine who looks very much like Rukia, or something personal like that, trying to replace someone who's gone.

But 'them's the rules'? How......lame. Completely uninteresting.

I think it was a missed opportunity, especially for some background on the Kukichi clan. And to the actual fight itself:

I was disappointed by the end. Even though Ichigo displays huge amounts of raw power, and was all set to completely humiliate Byakuya (which I was expecting, most of the stories I have read with such an uptight, self-righteous prick like him usually end in humilation for them), but we have Ichigo on the floor and Byakuya walking away with some scrapes and bruises. If they both were on the floor, then that would have been acceptable. And despite the zen....zenpackiderm....bah, the soul slayer having 2 forms, how many did we see from Byakuya? 4?

This episode did open up avenues for continuation though, so I can see it going for at least another 100-110 episodes.

DarkKanti
12-05-2005, 06:21 PM
But 'them's the rules'? How......lame. Completely uninteresting.

I found the way you phrased this to be quite funny.

Anyways, yeah, in a way it's a pretty lame copout for making Byakuya so cold. However, there is a bit of a deeper meaning to sticking to those rules so adamantly, although it barely makes up for it.

etane
12-05-2005, 07:23 PM
Atleast Buyakuya's hair didn't turn gold...

Sadly, Bleach is like the only series that I consider watching now... with Monster seeming to be over soon...

Lurker
12-14-2005, 02:19 AM
Episode 61:

This wins for most convoluted "ha ha I predicted everything would happen exactly like this" episode of any anime or any show ever. At the same time, the last revelation was probably the only one I thought was the most believable / coolest. The rest? Utter crap. Ut-tah ku-rap-pu. Bleach has already been ridiculous, now it's going bizarro world.

Oh, and Aizen is unbeatable, we get it. Why he's unbeatable is beyond anybody's comprehension, since his previous ease of defeating others was based on something clearly explained last episode. But apparently he can still kick the crap out of uber-Ichigo too with the ol' "one finger" thingy.

Yes, turn off the brain, watch the pretty swords and reiatsu fly.

Kei
12-14-2005, 07:41 AM
See, I liked that episode for the sheer fact that we aren't 100% sure if any of that really happened to them. Thats the way they precieved it, but Aizen's ability is to control the five senses after all. I'm sure once Ichigo eventually figures out Aizen's total hypnosis, he'll go down like a little bitch.


~Kei


EDIT: actually, durr, Ichigo never saw Aizen's shikai. So yeah. Aizen is just that strong. But hey, thats shounen anime for you!

tsiki
12-14-2005, 08:25 AM
Well it all still might be some illusion, they never stated that Aizens illusions would work only if the subject has seen teh shikai. Anyway, I'm sure they'll come up with a plausible explanation.

As for ep 61, I'm sucker for "haha I predicted everything now I shall reveal everything else (well, almost)" -stuff, making 61 one of the most enjoyable eps so far.

etane
12-14-2005, 01:45 PM
Well it all still might be some illusion, they never stated that Aizens illusions would work only if the subject has seen teh shikai. Anyway, I'm sure they'll come up with a plausible explanation.

As for ep 61, I'm sucker for "haha I predicted everything now I shall reveal everything else (well, almost)" -stuff, making 61 one of the most enjoyable eps so far.

I agree.

Lurker
12-14-2005, 11:19 PM
Well it all still might be some illusion, they never stated that Aizens illusions would work only if the subject has seen teh shikai. Anyway, I'm sure they'll come up with a plausible explanation.

They did back in episode 60. That was the whole point as to why he could whip up every one of the Shinigami captains and vice-captains and why the blind guy was on his side. It was the whole point of showing the shikai.

There was no illusion used in episode 61 on Ichigo (that I could see). And if there was, it will take one heck of a bullshit answer to explain that one.

Nope, as far as I could see, Aizen was just senior badass in this episode. At the very least, Rukia never saw the Shikai so she wouldn't be effected either.

tsiki
12-15-2005, 04:12 AM
They did back in episode 60. That was the whole point as to why he could whip up every one of the Shinigami captains and vice-captains and why the blind guy was on his side. It was the whole point of showing the shikai.

There was no illusion used in episode 61 on Ichigo (that I could see). And if there was, it will take one heck of a bullshit answer to explain that one.

Nope, as far as I could see, Aizen was just senior badass in this episode. At the very least, Rukia never saw the Shikai so she wouldn't be effected either.
Naw, they didn't at any point exclude the option that Aizen would be able to use illusions that don't require this shikai thingie, which I believe is what happened in episode 61. Sure they stated that all the vice-captains fell under the illusion when Aizen showed them the shikai, but that's it. Also, they never stated that the illusion that he used on vice-captains was his bankai, they used the form "sword's ability", which suggests that he can do more than just that one illusion.

AstralLionheart
12-15-2005, 04:14 PM
Well we'll see soon enough, when all the captains meet up to confront him. I won't be surprised if Yama-jii goes "WTF?" when he sees Aizen has mastered all four forms of combat, AND is still seeking more power.

Major Tom
12-15-2005, 06:24 PM
This episode wasn't as silly as I thought it would be, but the 1 fingered thing was a bit much. The only thing that's gonna really set me off is if Aizen starts going like all bad guys do.....'depsite the fact that you have beaten up countless lesser Shinigami's, a Lieutenant, and no less than 2 of our strongest captains, are completely knackered and pretty beat up yourself, whilst I have been lounging around sipping martini's laughing at your trials and tribulations, I am so much better than you....' And the sad thing is that I know he's gonna....

Now that the remaining captains (bar Byakuya, I think he may be in on the deal, oh and the genius kid and 4th squad captain, who's treating genius kid) are pretty pissed at Aizen and are closing on him, I hope this fight is gonna be quick.

2 things I think may happen: Hinamori pulls through and runs off to take bloody revenge on Aizen (which is silly, but it won't surprise me if it does happen), and we may finally get to see Orihime cut sick, which would be cool, she's the only one who hasn't really let rip yet.

AstralLionheart
12-16-2005, 12:48 AM
I've heard a new story arc is coming with Aizen as the main villain...in other words...while all of your theories would seem awesome, this story arc has really started to look like DBZ... (most of the side characters eventually get left in the dust by Ichigo as he is the only one who can keep up with new threats).

Aizen is rigged...on a whole nother level. When the captains converge on him I seriously doubt their combined efforts will be more than just keeping Aizen at bay. Unless Hinamori is going to pull a Gohan, she won't get much reprieve because at this point Aizen 1) would suspect her loyalty and 2) is a lot sharper than most DBZ characters, meaning he won't be leaving his back open for Hinamori to stab him (which might be his only weakness, seeing as he doesn't bleed energy like Kenpachi does).

There is a minor spoiler available in Wikipedia...about the next story arc (which doesn't look remotely as good as the current one in the Soul Society). The reason I loved this one was all the opposing factions and the sheer number of characters and their interactions...for me they are more interesting than the battles themselves.

Kei
12-16-2005, 06:33 AM
I've been reading the manga since...well...a while, and I love the new arc way more than Soul Society. Just keep watching to find out.


~Kei

DarkKanti
12-16-2005, 04:18 PM
I've been reading the manga since...well...a while, and I love the new arc way more than Soul Society. Just keep watching to find out.

Agreed.

And, I have to say that Ichigo has yet to leave anybody behind when it comes to power and the new arc is a pretty good indicator of that. In fact, there are a few good guys who are arguablly stronger than him at that point.

etane
12-16-2005, 04:32 PM
Ichigo already powered up to some insane level. It will just leave the realm of reality if he's allowed to power up even more. I wanna see the Mexican guy power up instead.

Oh it just occured to me as I am rewatching 61 that the seiyu for Marimi (clown guy) is the same as the Mataichi in One Hundred Stores... for those who care..

Oh.. and did Kisuke invent a way to bring dead people back to life? You know.. people die.. they go to where dead people go to... soul society wutever.. then Kisuke gives them gigai or wutever u call it.. and they turn back into human.. sumthin like that.

AstralLionheart
12-16-2005, 10:20 PM
I've been reading the manga since...well...a while, and I love the new arc way more than Soul Society. Just keep watching to find out.


~Kei


I can't wait to see that.

Unfortunately we're going to have to wait 6 months as a 20+ eps filler arc is coming forth so they can let the manga arc complete itself first, which is what I'm trying to say...I'm sure the next manga arc is killer.

tsiki
12-17-2005, 04:49 AM
I can't wait to see that.

Unfortunately we're going to have to wait 6 months as a 20+ eps filler arc is coming forth so they can let the manga arc complete itself first, which is what I'm trying to say...I'm sure the next manga arc is killer.
Oh crap. I hope they do a lot better job with the fillers than Naruto, at least.

Kei
12-17-2005, 10:34 AM
No filler arc has been confirmed, even on Bleach's official schedule list. If you're basing this on what Dattebayo said, you're wrong. They said that just to rile people up.

Only speculuation and rumors have surfaced.


~Kei

AstralLionheart
12-17-2005, 05:31 PM
I'd rather have a filler arc than nothing; there are only 28 chapters (which I'm guessing about 9 episodes left) before the show catches up to the manga. Better filler than having a long hiatus with nothing until the manga completes the new arc.

DarkKanti
12-17-2005, 07:14 PM
Well, they'll either do a filler arc and wait for the manga-ka to finish up the current arc (which I think this next arc might end the series), or they'll get impatient and start making their own story arc and end the series that way (which I hope they don't do). I really doubt they'll take a hiatus.

Lurker
12-21-2005, 03:10 AM
So in the end it didn't quite fall into the trap of most Shounen anime and it seems as though there really is more story to this then your average like fare. I still don't like Aizen's omnipotence. I'm okay with a bit of careful planning, but the ENTIRE GODDAMN ARC was all his "PuPpEt MaHsTaH" stuff? Bah. There's a line before something becomes ridiculous and they crossed it.

Still, this is by far the best "fighting anime" ever made simply because of the style and the actual attempt at making all this have some semblence of sense.

Major Tom
01-04-2006, 07:20 PM
I finally got around to seeing ep. 62. Meh, more of an explanation episode. Not too bad, but I too am a little disappointed with Aizen, well, how powerful he is and nobody noticed. Particularly as I feel there wasn't enough time spent on him at all.

And we finally have an explanation to Byakuya's actions. It was....acceptable. Far from great, but acceptable none the less.

Lurker
01-11-2006, 08:18 PM
Episode 63:

Half recap, half new material. Mostly just an epilogue to the Soul Society arc with Ichigo and co heading home.

ultbaka
01-15-2006, 07:47 AM
hmm... no filler arc... ::cough:: Naruto ::cough:: it's true. Everytime I thought there would be a filler arc, the last part of the episode would be used for another "saga" being put together.

Kei
01-15-2006, 11:51 AM
The filler villians look like rejects from Black Cat. Or even better Zombie Powder, the manga Kubo stopped writing so he could do Bleach. But seriously, the guy with the tophat looks exactly like a Black Cat character. Said Black Cat character also happens to share a seiyuu with Aizen Souske. It's very strange.


~Kei

Lurker
01-15-2006, 01:33 PM
So "Filler Arc" confirmed?

ryamano
01-15-2006, 09:35 PM
While I was reading the Bleach manga and finally got to see Soul Society as it is, I felt like I was looking at Riverworld, by Philip José Farmer. Lots of similarities in these "afterlifes".

Anyway, I stopped reading the manga when I found out there were going to be more villains. Aizen mentioned 10, 11 or something like that in the chapter after "Conquistadores", didn't he? Personally, I didn't think Bleach did that huge cast thing properly since there are still some captains and vice-captains I don't remember.

Can anyone tell me if it's worth looking at this manga and/or anime again?

Kei
01-15-2006, 09:56 PM
If you read that far, might as well continue. The last few fights in the manga have been interesting. I think so at least.

The anime is just getting out of SS, and into a filler arc. So, if you liked those parts of the manga, why not watch?


~Kei

Kimura-san
01-19-2006, 07:25 AM
Well, I guess they gotta put Ichigo in his place with Aizen and as they say - its always the quiet ones. Bet noone saw THAT coming.

Only watching the anime (as i dont want to get any more hooked by reading the manga) but I think its a decent action anime with at least a lot of thought into the whole Bleach world. Lets hope the animation or plot doesnt do too big a nose dive.

Plus I'm looking forward to Urahara and Yoruichis Bankais (if i ever see them). Hehehe

icelava
01-19-2006, 07:37 AM
Lets hope the animation or plot doesnt do too big a nose dive.Looking at Naruto's direction, i do not have confidence in Studio Pierrot's capabilities to present a compelling story should they catch up with the manga.

Lurker
01-19-2006, 04:48 PM
Plus I'm looking forward to Urahara and Yoruichis Bankais (if i ever see them). Hehehe

Yoruichi shouldn't have one. She's not actually a Shinigami. She's a part of a different section of Soul Society's "armed forces" if you will.

Episode 64:

So that's how the filler arc starts? With a "lets save the chick" plotline? Gah. I know in the manga Inoue becomes less useless but for the time being they're just gonna have to exploit that aint they? I was wondering, while watching this, how much of the episode was taken from existing manga material and how much of it was just stuff they were making up.

The problem with a filler arc is that nothing, in the end, is going to actually happen. Nobody's going to change. So, really, we just kind of have to wade through this. Having Renji around should be good for a yuck or two though.

Major Tom
01-19-2006, 05:25 PM
Episodes 63 & 64.

Eh, I think the first half of 63 was a waste of time. I didn't really see the point in going through all those again, I mean, it wasn't recapping anything important for the episode. On the otherhand, We've finally wrapped up the soul society arc.

As for 64, well I can't say I'm disappointed, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I was a bit annoyed at Orihime, though. She maybe airheaded, but her being that stupid felt a little out of character to me, But I think Lurker is right, it looks like another 'rescue the girl' story. Well.....at least that is better than 'random hollow of the week', which is what I was fearing when that hollow turned up right after Renji.

On the subject of Renji, I think it would be amusing if they took out for 'education' for a couple of episodes.......he really did look out of place in those hippie clothes......

Kurosaki-dono
01-22-2006, 02:45 AM
Ya im with you^on 63. For 64 i dont realy want to watch fillers darn it:bashhead i will give them a chance if they are to bad im just going to read the manga.XD

Kei
01-22-2006, 02:50 AM
As far as shounen anime fillers go, they're off to a decent start in 64. Like others have said, I'm not getting my hopes up at all, but at least for the time being I am not filled with the rage of a tiny god.


~Kei

Kurosaki-dono
01-22-2006, 03:06 AM
like i said i will give them a chance.

Kei
01-26-2006, 02:59 PM
Good news: The filler arc is only lasting untill Feb 14th.

Keeping it short and sweet. So far, it's still not too bad really. Only thing that kinda bothered me is that Ichigo and Renji forgot they could shunpou in that episode. That would have made the "RUN HERE NOW PLZ" fetch quest they had to do in ep 65 alot easier.

~Kei

Moe
01-26-2006, 03:31 PM
Good news: The filler arc is only lasting untill Feb 14th.

Keeping it short and sweet. So far, it's still not too bad really. Only thing that kinda bothered me is that Ichigo and Renji forgot they could shunpou in that episode. That would have made the "RUN HERE NOW PLZ" fetch quest they had to do in ep 65 alot easier.

~Kei

and i thought i was the only one thinking that....

this filler arc is ok, i rather be back on the main story line but i guees i have to deal.... i'm just wondering where that door goes....

Kagome654
01-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Feb 14th, huh? I have to make sure to keep that in mind as I've been ignoring the filler. Ugh.

Zelyhon
01-26-2006, 11:46 PM
Good news: The filler arc is only lasting untill Feb 14th.

Keeping it short and sweet. So far, it's still not too bad really. Only thing that kinda bothered me is that Ichigo and Renji forgot they could shunpou in that episode. That would have made the "RUN HERE NOW PLZ" fetch quest they had to do in ep 65 alot easier.

~Kei
While I did notice that too, I think that part of the problem might have been having Ishida and Chad with them. Neither of them are up to that speed, so if all of them needed to be there, they're in a bit of trouble. Come to think of it, can Ichigo do Shunpou when he's actually in his body? He's only ever done it as a death god. Renji, on the other hand, has no excuse. Have we ever seen Renji use Shunpou though? He blocked Byakuya's attack using Shunpou, but I don't remember him ever using it himself.


I have hope for this filler arc. It's not going to have the storyline the rest of the series does, but at least they're not totally distancing it from the core series. 65 is where that's seen best, as the remaining captains actually talk about Aizen for a bit. All in all, I have hope it'll be pretty good.

Or, failing that, they give us a few episodes of Don Kan'onji. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Lurker
01-27-2006, 07:37 PM
65:

This filler arc is two episodes in and I'm already in pain. First thing to do to improve this arc: strangle the blonde moppet. Second thing to do to improve this arc, scrap it and move on with the original manga artist's storyline. Or at the very least, get that person involved on some "filler" ideas. Jesus.

Oddly enough, I like the exit song. As weird as the exit itself is, the song just has this appeal. I dunno.

ultbaka
01-30-2006, 06:22 AM
65:

This filler arc is two episodes in and I'm already in pain. First thing to do to improve this arc: strangle the blonde moppet. Second thing to do to improve this arc, scrap it and move on with the original manga artist's storyline. Or at the very least, get that person involved on some "filler" ideas. Jesus.

Oddly enough, I like the exit song. As weird as the exit itself is, the song just has this appeal. I dunno.


I remember this crap in Naruto somewhere... let's see... AH! This is the Barrel of Sauske arc when they couldn't do anything else. Only remove barrel and place in hell gate and instead of Sauske, use everyone but the actor who plays both Sauske and the quincy. Yes, if you listen hard enough and do your research, it's the same voice.

Lurker
02-02-2006, 03:03 AM
Episode 66:

K. Looks like the February 14th deadline is coming up quick, which means this thing wont last too much longer. Maybe 2 more episodes to this and finito. Can't come quick enough. I admit that once we found out what they were it was a little more interesting. Actually using something mentioned back in, like, episode 4 is a good thing because it means that someone actually had to pay attention.

And, I just figured out what the things in the ending credits are.

Those are going to be these guys' "stuffed animal" versions once the modified souls are popped out and the main bodies dealt with. I kind of figured that they represented the trio somehow, but now I understand it. The chicken will, of course, be Rin Rin. The ... I guess rabbit thing... is going to be the dude with the red hair. The zipper on the head fits with the zipper mask that guy wears. And the turtle, well I don't know how that relates, but the prissy Space Butler lookalike ends up there.

A fitting end will be that they all end up being the little sister's bitches. Kon is funny enough, but having 3 other modified souls to kick around might be gold.

BTW, best Shinigami Golden Cup thing ever.

Major Tom
02-06-2006, 12:17 AM
I can't say that I'm liking this filler, but I'm not hating it either, so it's average. Good that it will be over soon. I did a pretty good job of predicting what was gonig to happen in that episode. However, there is one thing that bugged me.

It seems we are already forgetting that in the battle with the clown guy captain (which was a cop out, I didn't want him to survive....) it was mentioned that if Ishida removes the limiter or whatever on the glove thingy, he would gain impressive power, but at the expense of all his Quincy powers after that. Now we are already seeing Ichigo asking Ishida if they can borrow his Quincy powers. Does this mean that he will somehow be able to regain his powers? Or is Ichigo referring to something else to do with the Quincy's?

Not that it wouldn't surprise me if he does regain his powers, it would just s*** me off if he did.

And I do like Lurkers spin on events, it does make sense that way. I hope that's what happens. And Gold on the Shinigami cup as well......

And is it only me, or does is Bleach in desperate need of a new OP sequence?

General Suburbia
02-06-2006, 12:27 AM
And is it only me, or does is Bleach in desperate need of a new OP sequence?
Yup, this one is the worst, by far. And that's saying a lot since none of the others were good enough to even be considered mediocre by my standard.

DarkKanti
02-06-2006, 12:34 AM
Yup, this one is the worst, by far. And that's saying a lot since none of the others were good enough to even be considered mediocre by my standard.

I thought they've had some pretty good ones, the first still being my favorite.

But, yeah, the new one does kinda suck.

Major Tom
02-06-2006, 12:39 AM
My biggest beef with the current OP is that the events in it are all over and done with. Ichigo isn't fighting Kukichi Byakuya anymore, they aren't in Soul Society, and not having read ahead in the manga, I'm not even sure if Rukia comes back to earth.

The OP should have been changed about 5-6 episodes ago.

Lurker
02-06-2006, 12:47 AM
It seems we are already forgetting that in the battle with the clown guy captain (which was a cop out, I didn't want him to survive....) it was mentioned that if Ishida removes the limiter or whatever on the glove thingy, he would gain impressive power, but at the expense of all his Quincy powers after that. Now we are already seeing Ichigo asking Ishida if they can borrow his Quincy powers. Does this mean that he will somehow be able to regain his powers? Or is Ichigo referring to something else to do with the Quincy's?

Actually, nobody BUT Ishida knows his powers are gone, that's part of the point. At the end of the last arc, he told Ichigo he was still his enemy, and so, he didn't tell Ichigo squat. If you noticed, when Ichigo DID ask to borrow his Quincy powers, Ishida's response was to dodge the point and come up with an alternate idea.

Not that it wouldn't surprise me if he does regain his powers, it would just s*** me off if he did.

Well, he has to get them back sometime. As cool as it would be for that to have been an ultimate sacrifice, this IS still a shounen anime about people fighting and stuff. So he's gotta get something going again. It would be more cool if it wasn't his Quincy powers at all, since the powers of a Quincy are quite out of balance with the natural order of life and death.

Major Tom
02-06-2006, 12:58 AM
Actually, nobody BUT Ishida knows his powers are gone, that's part of the point. At the end of the last arc, he told Ichigo he was still his enemy, and so, he didn't tell Ichigo squat. If you noticed, when Ichigo DID ask to borrow his Quincy powers, Ishida's response was to dodge the point and come up with an alternate idea.

Point, I had forgotten that the only person that witnessed the Ishida/clown man fight was his adjutant (which could be argued isn't really a person....).

ShinoMatrix
02-06-2006, 02:21 AM
And did he even mention to him that he put everything into that one attack? If memory serves me correctly, no. It was all a conversation inside his head.

Major Tom
02-07-2006, 03:04 PM
:whine:........MT is getting PWNZ0Red by Bleach fanboys......

I'm going to have to watch that episode again

chaste Angel
02-07-2006, 06:54 PM
........... is episode 66 isnt up yet? gush!

.......... other than this...... does anyone knows how to customize an avatar?
pm me if ok thanks.........

Kei
02-08-2006, 03:07 AM
What are you talking about? 67 aired yesterday. 66 Aired last week.

Also, click on the "FAQ" button at the top of the page to answer most of your questions.

~Kei

Lurker
02-08-2006, 04:37 AM
Episode 67:

K. I thought it was Ishida, because he wasn't coming up with the most obvious plan of all: using the stupid Shinigami badge thingy on everybody to knock the Mod-Soul out of a body. They did it in the last episode so why not do it here? Nobody, even the badguys, was specific as to the rules regarding that thing. As for who it turned out to be, well looking back on the episode they were sure not being subtle about who it was. I was just ignoring the "obvious" clues because those are often deliberately wrong to mislead the viewer. I gave them too much credit I guess.

Oh, and obviously Ichigo didn't bother to ask Uruhara about his body being left at the shop. Woulda been one of the first things I'd have done: "Yo, Hat-guy, what the ****, over?".

Maybe I'm just really annoyed with this filler arc, but the plot holes are glaring at me like my father catching me taking $50 from his wallet. I don't care what kind of backlash collateral damage it would cause, go Bankai already, Ichigo, and kill them. It's getting on my nerves constantly watching everybody standing around with big ass sweat marks on their face everytime the little blonde bitch tells them that this filler arc is being prolonged.

Or, as 4chan is humorously joking: "Have they reached Namek yet?"

chaste Angel
02-08-2006, 04:42 AM
hmm....... yah....... my error :P

Kei
02-08-2006, 05:04 AM
"Have they reached Namek yet?"

I'm still waiting for Renji and Ichigo to get their drivers lisence.


~Kei

Zelyhon
02-08-2006, 12:54 PM
Episode 67:

K. I thought it was Ishida, because he wasn't coming up with the most obvious plan of all: using the stupid Shinigami badge thingy on everybody to knock the Mod-Soul out of a body. They did it in the last episode so why not do it here? Nobody, even the badguys, was specific as to the rules regarding that thing. As for who it turned out to be, well looking back on the episode they were sure not being subtle about who it was. I was just ignoring the "obvious" clues because those are often deliberately wrong to mislead the viewer. I gave them too much credit I guess.

Oh, and obviously Ichigo didn't bother to ask Uruhara about his body being left at the shop. Woulda been one of the first things I'd have done: "Yo, Hat-guy, what the ****, over?".

Maybe I'm just really annoyed with this filler arc, but the plot holes are glaring at me like my father catching me taking $50 from his wallet. I don't care what kind of backlash collateral damage it would cause, go Bankai already, Ichigo, and kill them. It's getting on my nerves constantly watching everybody standing around with big ass sweat marks on their face everytime the little blonde bitch tells them that this filler arc is being prolonged.

Or, as 4chan is humorously joking: "Have they reached Namek yet?"
I didn't mind the filler up to this last episode. Modified souls are a good thing to do for some time killer. I understand the necessity of filler and, though I may not always like it, I'm not vehemently opposed to it. This last episode grated on me, though.

Personally, I had a different theory about who it'd be. Kon. Think about it. He was there and no one was paying any attention to him at the time. Ishida ought to have been able to sense something wrong with Not-Chad, like he did in the maze. Kon, on the other hand, has the same sort of energy as the others, making it harder to pick out that it'd be him. Beyond that, no one would guess him because he's not as noticable. If they'd done that, it would have been cool. Having Yoruichi and Soi-Fong show up felt a bit much like a deus-ex machina to me. Couldn't figure out what to do, so let's introduce something suddenly the copy can't react to.

I hope the next (and last, correct?) episode is better, but that last one grated on me.

Lurker
02-08-2006, 02:39 PM
Personally, I had a different theory about who it'd be. Kon.

Speaking of Kon, was it just me or did he just flat out disappear? The chick said it was "one of you", but then later says you have a "one in five" chance to get it right. So obviously Kon wasn't it. But where did he go anyway? Since he was a backpack they could have still had him around.

Think about it. He was there and no one was paying any attention to him at the time. Ishida ought to have been able to sense something wrong with Not-Chad, like he did in the maze. Kon, on the other hand, has the same sort of energy as the others, making it harder to pick out that it'd be him. Beyond that, no one would guess him because he's not as noticable. If they'd done that, it would have been cool. Having Yoruichi and Soi-Fong show up felt a bit much like a deus-ex machina to me. Couldn't figure out what to do, so let's introduce something suddenly the copy can't react to.

I have to check with another fansub group, because I think the one I watched did that scene all wrong. Was I reading it right when Ichigo said that Chad wouldn't have known about Youichi being a cat in the real world and that was because he hadn't stepped foot into Soul Society? Was that Ichigo talking to the mod-soul or about Chad himself? If it's about the mod-soul, it makes something resembling sense (though the Mod-Souls were made in Soul Society, so it doesn't work in that regard), but if it's Chad then Ichigo is just flat out wrong. Chad saw Youichi talking in cat form and probably saw Youichi later in hot babe form when they were attacking Aizen. Perhaps he wouldn't have known they were the same, but it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. And the bit about Chad never setting foot into Soul Society just...

It's gotta be a bad sub job. Anybody else got a different one that says otherwise?

I hope the next (and last, correct?) episode is better, but that last one grated on me.

Yeah last. It's an "hour long special" though, so they'll wrap this crap up and segueway into the next chapter. How, I don't know, but as long as this crap is done I wont complain.

Zelyhon
02-08-2006, 07:20 PM
Speaking of Kon, was it just me or did he just flat out disappear? The chick said it was "one of you", but then later says you have a "one in five" chance to get it right. So obviously Kon wasn't it. But where did he go anyway? Since he was a backpack they could have still had him around.Even with that one in five thing, I still thought it might be Kon. Every real one knows it's not them, right? Wouldn't that make a 1 in 4 chance in general to guess, since no one would guess themselves? Yeah, it's a bit of reaching, but it's just something that passed through my head. As to where he went, until proven otherwise, I'm just going to assume that Blonde Mod Soul was toying with Kon when Ichigo's sister runs out from nowhere, knocks her around a bit, then takes Kon and runs off. All off camera, of course.



I have to check with another fansub group, because I think the one I watched did that scene all wrong. Was I reading it right when Ichigo said that Chad wouldn't have known about Youichi being a cat in the real world and that was because he hadn't stepped foot into Soul Society? Was that Ichigo talking to the mod-soul or about Chad himself? If it's about the mod-soul, it makes something resembling sense (though the Mod-Souls were made in Soul Society, so it doesn't work in that regard), but if it's Chad then Ichigo is just flat out wrong. Chad saw Youichi talking in cat form and probably saw Youichi later in hot babe form when they were attacking Aizen. Perhaps he wouldn't have known they were the same, but it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. And the bit about Chad never setting foot into Soul Society just...

It's gotta be a bad sub job. Anybody else got a different one that says otherwise?I'm pretty sure he meant the mod soul, since it was clear it wasn't Chad by that point. Plus, they were hanging out in Soul Society a while after Aizen ran off, so Chad almost definitely knows Yoruichi in both forms. I'm just assiming it meant the mod soul, who would have had little to no contact with Soi Fong and none with Yoruichi. I don't think they'd have had a lot of memory of Soul Society either, so that's still work out.



Yeah last. It's an "hour long special" though, so they'll wrap this crap up and segueway into the next chapter. How, I don't know, but as long as this crap is done I wont complain.We'll just have to see. Aside from this last episode, I didn't mind the filler. This last one was bad, though. I hope the wrap-up's better.

Lurker
02-15-2006, 03:45 AM
Episode 68 - 69: Grand hour long special thingy.

The only thing watching an hour long episode of an anime makes me realize is how many more SHOULD be one hour episodes*. While most anime manages to pack quite a bit of story into 24 minute segments, having a full 48 minutes just really keeps the pacing pure and allows us to have multiple segmenets focusing on multiple characters (if necessary). So they did a pretty good job with the 48 minutes alotted to them and it didn't come off as simply two epiosdes, but really felt like one episode.

Wrapping up the filler arc felt clumsy as hell though. I guess they decided that getting rid of the mod-souls was a bad idea, especially with the "revelations" that occurred regarding Ichigo's and Ishida's powers. It just wouldn't work to have Ichigo go Bankai and kill everybody if the storyline of the next arc basically says that ...

...he can't.

And, maybe they felt that the filler characters actually had a place after all, and they sort of kept them. I personally don't like them and would prefer Rin Rin to be shot on sight, but she makes a better chicken-puppet-thing then a character. I don't follow the manga at all, but somehow I doubt that what we saw was how the third arc began.

And so I was wrong a bit. Nova ended up the turtle and the other dude ended up the Rabbit-bag. Whatever.

In any event, the filler is over and done with and we can get on to better things. And, so far, I'm not sure what to think of the new arc. Seems as though the writer is going to put a little more thought into things this time around. Soul Society's arc was, frankly, a big mess of Shounen Jump shit. Stark contrast to how the anime started out. Maybe it'll get back to it's roots a little better with this current arc.

As a consolation, the Shinigami Golden Cup thingy with Soi Fon and Yoruichi was almost as good as the Soul Society Secret Women's Organization thing.

More 1 hour episodes. They do them well.












*Binchoutan is excepted from this rule. If I had to watch 48 minutes of that I'd probably have to become President just so I could nuke Japan.

Major Tom
02-19-2006, 06:23 PM
First of all, I must get something out of my system:

I WAS RIGHT ABOUT ISHIDA! HAH, you naysayers, I remembered that he lost his powers, so nah nah nah nah! :iamabanan

Now, onto ep.67-69

All in all, it wasn't bad, but I'm glad it's over. I guess the real problem for me in these past 4 episodes is that I haven't been able to garner any sort of motivation as to why the mod souls acted this way or why Urahara orchestrated this. Though I was surprised that Urahara was behind it all, but I am still confused as to what he was trying to achieve.

Was he trying to keep them on their toes, keeping them busy while Soul Society conducted it's investigation, trying to point out that Ichigo can't use Bankai, or what?

The end of the filler arc was like the reason for Byakuya wanting to kill Rukia, it was.......acceptable, but not great.

However, the next story has peaked my interest some. A somewhat different interpretation of a vampire, I'll be interested to see where this leads.

Here's to hoping there's a new OP this week!

Oh, and I agree with Lurker about the Shinigami cup thing, that was really good.

Zelyhon
02-19-2006, 06:52 PM
I think it was just a team-building exercize. Y'know, get them to work together and think rather than just blindly charging in and all that, which is something the team needs. However, my first mental image went to what a group I was in did for teambuilding. Ichigo et al playing paintball against the Urahara shop p