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TwinchaosX
02-03-2005, 05:07 PM
I was just on AnimeNewsNetwork and saw this most of Bones other animes have been really good (Rahxephon,Fullmetal Alchemist being my favorites) and I am wondering if this one will turn out well. http://www.eureka-prj.net/ It is however another mech anime so we will have to see. Tomoki Kyoda is the director who did episodes 16,22,26 of Rahxephon.

It does however look pretty cool

Edit: I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6100

Tremolo
02-03-2005, 11:14 PM
I'm a fan of BONES, so I hope this is going to turn out well. It certainly looks impressive, although a surf-boarding mecha is going to take a bit to grow on me. I'll be watching this, anyway.

And as for Bandai-Ent co-producing it...well, they do like to licence as many BONES series as possible (Wolf's Rain, Scrapped Princess, The Mars Daybreak), but it doesn't really bother me.

TwinchaosX
02-15-2005, 04:08 PM
More info http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=850

Judeau
02-15-2005, 04:19 PM
I'm pretty excited for this. BONES has always put out quality and essentially floored the anime world with Fullmetal alchemist. The whole premiss looks like a twist on the mecha thing and as long as it gives them a backround for their amazing stories then I'll take it.

TwinchaosX
02-15-2005, 04:23 PM
Me too I really can't wait to see were they take this I just hope it doesn't turn out to be a big disappointment like wolfs rain did. It does however have a director who was a big part in Rahxephon. I have extremely high hopes for it.

Edit: I also found the opening song to be pretty catchy as well you can hear it on the Promo video.

Shadowmage
02-15-2005, 06:24 PM
Hype is typically not good, but I'm rooting for BONES. Hopefully it is better than Scrapped Princess. (Pray it is not worse)

Tremolo
02-16-2005, 12:09 AM
Having seen the trailer and more promo artwork I can't emphasise enough how much I'm looking forward to this. This spring looks like it's going to be a great season for anime along with this and shows like Basilisk, Erementar Gerad, Sousei no Aquarion, MÄR, Trinity Blood, Tusbasa Chronicle and hopefully Speed Grapher are the ones I'm particularly looking forward to.

TwinchaosX
03-01-2005, 05:14 PM
Parts of the site are up^^ If anyone can translate the summary and background part that would be very cool.

TwinchaosX
03-07-2005, 07:37 PM
More info sorry about the double post the charcter section is up and it looks as if there are going to be quite a few charcters also other portions of the site are up as well^^ Also looks as if the mechs are called LFO( light Finding Operation) and also I think its kind of interesting the title is Eureka 7 since the main female charcters name is Eureka could she be a clone? just a guess however...

also here is some screen shots from the game http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=22994

nixie1512
03-08-2005, 12:42 PM
They said this is going to be the best show of 2005! With 50 episodes.. That reminds me of Gundam Seed ><

TwinchaosX
03-08-2005, 12:56 PM
They said this is going to be the best show of 2005! With 50 episodes.. That reminds me of Gundam Seed ><

Yup gundam seed is bad but this is Bones so we have to be ready for anything^^

Tremolo
03-08-2005, 01:03 PM
Really nice to see the site up - I'm already loving the character designs (weird names though) - the more I here/see of this show I just get all the more excited. I'm getting a more lighthearted vibe from this show than say, RahXephon and certainly a very different one than from Gundam SEED!

Judeau
03-08-2005, 03:15 PM
So this has potential to be another something special from BONES. I don't know if they are capable of making something like Gundum Seed, I hope not.

TwinchaosX
04-17-2005, 04:35 PM
Eureka 7 is premiering tonight at seven

TwinchaosX
04-22-2005, 08:09 PM
Sorry about the double post first off episode one is called Blue Monday.

Sadly it looks like we will have to wait to see it here since it has already been licenesed.

Edit:sorry I forgot about that I got rid of the link^^ also take the link out of the quote

TypicalIdiotFan
04-22-2005, 11:26 PM
Sorry about the double post first off episode one is called Blue Monday and I also found a site with some interesting info

[link ganked for keeping within board rules]

Sadly it looks like we will have to wait to see it here since it has already been licenesed.

Wow. That's gotta be some kinda record, eh? Tho, TCX, you may wanna remove that link, since the website you linked to is preparing to provide torrent download information. Since it's pre-licensed, any downloading of that would be a "no no" and would probably not be viewed very well by the MOD squad here.

TypicalIdiotFan
04-23-2005, 03:47 AM
Episode 1:

Well, I like it. It's BONES, so of course you can't help but like it. But I don't get it. I mean, with RahXephon, you're confused for a bit, and then they explain things to you. With Full Metal Alchemist, you pretty much get the story from the get go. But our first episode here consists basically of the mecha and who the main people in the story are supposed to be. And that's pretty much it. Lots of "huh?" and "what?" and "whodat?". Not a good idea for a first episode, especially when you have to wait a week to see another 30 minute somethingorather that may not explain things either.

Intro

Okay. Nothing flashy. Nothing bad. Nothing amazing. Song was ok.

Part A

I know this is how the manga was done, but, seriously, what's with the surfing mecha? I mean, of all the things in the show, that is the one gimmick that they're going to have to really give me a solid explaination about or I just wont buy it. I can understand someone wanting to be different. Mecha anime are a dime a dozen, and each has their own quirks. But I'd love to have been at the brainstorming session for the uniqueness to this show.

"What can we do to make this story unique?"
"Well, we could make the robots neigh invincible with odd color schemes and beam sabers!"
"Nah, that's been done."
"We could make 'em transform and build a giant spaceship that transforms too!"
"Nah, that's been done."
"We could make the mecha living creatures wearing 'armor', who go berserk at random!"
"Nah, that's been done."
"We could have them riding skyboards that make them look like they're surfing!"
"Bingo."

I just don't know how people come up with this shit, I guess.

BONES does do one thing that I wish all anime producing companies would do and that's build up a story. A lot of anime just go right into something. We dont know who the characters are or why we should care, not a lot of getting to see the oddities of the world they're trying to create, etc. But BONES makes sure to at least give us the idea of who someone is, what their personality is going to be, and what kind of nuances about this story's universe we're going to have to deal with. Not only that, but the characters really are the ones who drive the story. BONES characters tend to be very likable, or at least people whom you can relate to, and I appreciate that greatly.

Take notes GONZO, et al.

Eyecatch

HAH! Someone must be reading my reviews about eye catchers. Not only do we get one, but it tells you that Part A of the show is over and Part B is beginning now. Just in case you were a retard and couldn't figure that out for yourself! I love BONES.

Part B

BONES likes missiles dont they? Except for FMA (which I haven't seen all of), I think BONES tries to throw in at least one close up shot of a realistic looking missile. The jet firing it or the mecha launching it can be funky, but the missile has to look like something right off the movie Top Gun. That's fine! That forms a very visceral tie to reality that people can identify with.

"Oh, that's a missile. Saw that on CNN."
"AIM 9, Maverick, or AAMRAAM?"

Y'know just shit you can at least see happening in your mind.

I know Im not saying much. I've been accused of bieng spoiler happy, so I am intentionally not telling you the whozits or the whatzits this time. Watch it for yourself. I will say this, I dont know if it's BONES or what, but chicks in their anime somehow manage to turn out cute and yet weird at the same time. Blue hair is one thing, but blue hair and piercing eyes that freak you out are even better. Oh, and the main character doesn't annoy me, but God he reminds you of Sasshi from Abenobashi doesn't he?

Exit

Meh. The background music in the show is actually quite pleasant, and I've noticed that most anime this season and in the last season take great pains to make sure that the BGM sets an appropriate tone for a scene. It's about ****ing time they realized that a show is only as good as it's soundtrack, the intros and exits notwithstanding.

However, this has to be the most "in your face" exit I've ever seen. You'll see what I mean.

Interest: 4/5 - Not really grabbing me by the balls, but not boring me. I am giving it an extra because it is simply appealing all around, despite the general lack of substance at the moment.

OVerall: 4/5 - As first episodes go, this isn't bad. Confusing as shit, but not bad.

Tremolo
04-23-2005, 06:14 AM
Bloody brilliant.

I am prone to very premature sweeping statements, but this has all the potential to be BONES best series next to Fullmetal Alchemist, which is no easy task. Unlike Aquarion, Eureka Seven actually builds up numerous plot elements nicely without a lot of sensory bombardment or kinetic schizophrenia and just makes it work to its advantage. The concepts on display aren't all "OMG LOOK AT THIS AND THIS!" and because of that easier to digest and enjoy.

As TIF says, there's no real reason why the LFO's should surf (but damn does it look cool, and done very well to boot - the opening battle a perfect example of this), but I like idea of the world having unseen "waves" that enable them to do so. It's a nice concept and one I'm positive will be explored.

I am a huge BONES fan. I love their story-building, their likeable characters and I love their animation style which I like to call "quietly stunning". There's no big flashy CGI or 3D work, but beautifully textured and fluid animation that is nothing but convincing and always gorgeous.

This is a nice change from your average po-faced mecha series in that there are nice dashes of humour here and there and the characters are all highly likeable and well-written. There's currently nothing about a dark invading alien force, or the end of the world or anything like that. And whilst the protagnist is a teenage boy he's not angst-ridden or unlikeable either.

Watch this.

nixie1512
04-23-2005, 09:45 PM
Eureka 7 actually makes me think of FLCL in the beginning, seeing Renkan complaining nothing happens in the city, and that rock song bgm, and fluid character movements, and the sense of complete mystery :)

but God he reminds you of Sasshi from Abenobashi doesn't he?
Positive. He's cute :D

Frog
04-24-2005, 06:01 AM
Eureka 7 actually makes me think of FLCL in the beginning, seeing Renkan complaining nothing happens in the city, and that rock song bgm, and fluid character movements, and the sense of complete mystery :)
Im glad someone else noticed this because the first episode is scarely similar to flcl. Flcl comparisons aside, because im not even going to count the similarities, the first episode was rather enjoyable and this does appear to be the best and most original mech series of the season, are you listening aquarion, so i look foward to the next episode and hope more is explained.

loner
04-24-2005, 06:25 AM
The surfing mechas got to me. I don't know, to me, mechas and surfing don't mix. Other than that, everything about the show seems impressive so far. The characters all have more personality in one episode than half the cast of Gundam Seed. And to me that's more important than showy mecha fights. It has a huge amount of potential, so let's hope it fulfills it. Wolf's Rain left me with a very bad taste in my mouth, so I'm begging Bones not to disappoint me again.

Tremolo
04-29-2005, 08:36 AM
Episode 2.

I'm going to keep this relatively simple.

I love this series.

And I wonder...is every episode title going to have "blue" in it?

TwinchaosX
04-29-2005, 05:32 PM
I think it just may or maybe they will switch to red at some point^^

Erigion
05-02-2005, 11:40 PM
Best. New. Series.

heffer
05-03-2005, 12:04 AM
Best. New. Series.
I don't know, speed grapher is pretty good too.

Anways, this show seems interesting so far. I really don't like how the female lead looks though. Her eyes bother me, they're kinda creepy.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Best. New. Series.

Nah.

But it does have that BONES touch of character interaction that makes their anime so memorable. Despite all that, I still can't get over the surfing mecha and they still haven't explained why it's necessary to do that, while at the same time they have a big airplane/fortress flying around normally. Each of the mechs have jet thrusters of their own. The boards are completely unnecessary.

Be that as it may, I have a feeling the story will go the RahXephon way; character development and interaction being more important then the actual mecha battling and such. If they can do that, then I'll be happy with this show. But I don't think I'm going to decalre it the best new series of the new ones we've seen.

TwinchaosX
05-03-2005, 03:23 PM
I dunno it has 50 or so episodes and I think Bones could very well bring us another FMA

Erigion
05-03-2005, 06:35 PM
Meh, nothing else this season has caught my attention other than Eureka 7 so it's the best new series to me.

Tremolo
05-12-2005, 04:27 AM
Episode 3.

Along with just about everything thing else that's impressing me about this series, the music really came into its own with this episode. Some very funny moments (especially towards the end) and it was nice to briefly meet some of the supporting cast who I'm guessing we'll be meeting properly in the next episode.

I don't know why, I just really, really dig this show.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-12-2005, 07:42 PM
Episode 3:

Good episode. BONES continues to do all the little detail things that make for effective storytelling. And despite the sillyness of the surfing mecha, at least they're running with the whole Trapar aspect and making it seem somewhat believable.

I still don't get it, but eh. Lots of nutbars on the ship. That's good.

Grade: A.

Shadowmage
05-12-2005, 09:51 PM
Much like everyone else here, I still can't understand why I'm enjoying the show. It seems like your typical Gundam plot yet it feels epic. (I despise the mechs though... I never really liked giant robots.)

Erigion
05-12-2005, 10:38 PM
Because Bones has something that seems to be in short supply everywhere, good scripts.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Because Bones has something that seems to be in short supply everywhere, good scripts.

Yeah, that seems about right.

BONES could take anybody else's idea and make it better. Kind of like what GAINAX can do, only without the flash and more substance.

loner
05-12-2005, 11:03 PM
In the last few seconds of the episode, I was going WTF with Renton. Seriously, WTF???!!

First, Holland watch way too much Simpsons. Homer would be proud of him for strutting around in his pantsu.

Second, I am pretty sure that those children are orphans or something and Eureka is acting as their adoptive mother or something. But wouldn't it be fun to seriously f***with our brains by making her their biological mother? And how old is she anyways?

Lots of interesting stuff. This is better than your typical Gundam stuff, simply because the characters aren't a bunch of angsty stiffs, but are wacky, fun and interesting.

TypicalIdiotFan
05-31-2005, 11:35 PM
Episodes 4 and 5:

This show is growing on me, but considering how well BONES tells stories, that shouldn't be a surprise. I was, and still am actually, skeptical about the whole thing actually pulling it off, but at least I'm not so much worried about the surfing mecha. Even though it's a focal point of the show, and especially the point of the fourth episode, they still haven't convinced me that I should buy it. In any case, I can let that shit slide so long as we get great characters and stories, and it seems that we have that with Eureka 7.

However, I am sort of dodgy on the character designs. They're good, so don't get me wrong, and having two black characters is a nice change of pace for anime, but it seems as though they tried damned hard to make everybody look like a skater thug in a different universe. It's like, I can see some elements of modern skater fad clothing wear in the costume designs, and the characters seem to match the attitudes. I think that, maybe, it just comes off a bit laughable when you consider that these people are basically flying around getting into fights that result in people's deaths.

I like the whole concept of the Gekkostate and the Gekko-Go's crew, even though we have no idea who half of them are yet, but I think we're going to need a lot more explaination on this world we're watching. I still don't quite understand what's going on here, and it would be nice to have a little rounding out. There's also some intrigue within the badguy camp, which is very interesting.

And someone needs to tell BONES that they don't need to steal the Gundam SEED "pretty in pink" explosion puffs. Seriously, it's ****ing gay.

Anyway, despite these two episodes being mostly character focus and Gekko-Go fleshing out stories, BONES manages to write it so well that I don't notice.

Two A+ episodes. Good stuff.

Tremolo
06-01-2005, 03:27 AM
I've loved the last two episodes, especially episode five which was incredibly funny in places. The character interaction is immensely enjoyable to watch, even if barely half the Gekko-Go crew have yet to fleshed out yet.

I like the whole concept of the Gekkostate and the Gekko-Go's crew, even though we have no idea who half of them are yet, but I think we're going to need a lot more explaination on this world we're watching. I still don't quite understand what's going on here, and it would be nice to have a little rounding out. There's also some intrigue within the badguy camp, which is very interesting.

My thoughts exactly - some of the crew haven't even had any lines yet, so some rounding out would be really appreciated.

TypicalIdiotFan
06-14-2005, 01:54 AM
Episode 6:

Despite the mundane nature of the episode plots (as in, we've seen all this shit before in other shows), I can't help but smile while watching Eureka 7. They're just "fun" to watch.

soundchazer
06-14-2005, 01:56 AM
I've loved the last two episodes, especially episode five which was incredibly funny in places. The character interaction is immensely enjoyable to watch, even if barely half the Gekko-Go crew have yet to fleshed out yet.



My thoughts exactly - some of the crew haven't even had any lines yet, so some rounding out would be really appreciated.

Given the fact that the anime is slaited for 52 episodes, we will probably see more of a lot of people. But I need to remind you, some characters in many series work only as part of the scenery and do not necessarily have too much to do with the plot.

Tremolo
06-14-2005, 03:02 AM
Given the fact that the anime is sialted for 52 episodes, we will probably see more of a lot of people. But I need to remind you, some characters in many series work only as part of the scenery and do not necessarily have too much to do with the plot.

Yeah, that's very true - I guess I just don't want all the pretty character designs go to waste.

Episode 6 was fantastic. Even in the smaller episodes like this, the show exudes a tremendous feel-good optimism that's utterly infectious. Even though the main storyline has yet to kick in it's still seriously addictive, and I guess that's partly down to the characters. I do like the hints we're getting of a darker plot underneath, and in true BONES style I can guarantee we'll get an episode that totally shocks the hell out of us. This is my absolute favourite show of the spring season and I just can't get enough of it.

/me stops gushing

loner
06-17-2005, 05:58 AM
Episode 6

Now I'm really engaged. This show is doing what every show should do: don't rush things, and let everybody understand the situations and people first. I feel through these mundane, routined episodes, Bones has made me like these characters and connect with them. That's good.

There's something that interests me a lot though: the book that Holland is reading. The Golden Bough is a very famous anthropology book by Sir James George Frazer, and incidentally I'm reading an abridged version of it right now. A very interesting book, which I recommend to everyone. Holland said something about 'killing of a king', which I assume must be about the King of the Wood. The King of the Wood is the priest-king of the woods near Lake of Nemi, believed to be the home of the Roman Goddess Diana (who I suppose is the lady on the cover). Whoever wants to be the next King of the Wood must kill his predecessor in single combat to take over his place, and will rule until the next challenger come. A person can also only challenge the incumbent priest 'if he had first succeeded in plucking a golden bough from the tree which the priest was guarding'. Now how will Eureka 7 use this story? And if Bones do use this story, then there must be a lot of very deep themes and messages set to be revealed in the future.

Datsun
06-20-2005, 06:39 PM
Having caught up with this series, I'm not really sure what to say about it. There's no direction, or even a hint of what is in store, but I still feel like following this. I'm sure at 50 episodes or so, the story will kick in sooner or later, and hopefully the side characters will be fleshed out more, cause at the moment it feels like I haven't even been properly introduced to anyone yet.

It's got potential to good at least, and I really like the ending song, although the accompanying images feels like it's invading my personal space.

TypicalIdiotFan
07-02-2005, 12:52 AM
Episode 7:

These guys are just ****ing mean, man. =) Poor Renton.

loner
07-02-2005, 07:34 AM
Mean? It's only fair. You gotta love noob hazing.

Moondoggie...man, his parents never gave him a chance in life. If not for Renton's general noobness, he would be ridiculed for the rest of his life just for his pathetic name, not to mention his accent.

Anyways, Bones are taking their time with the plot, which they are entitled to do since this is going to have 52 episodes. Things are moving though.

Taleweaver
07-03-2005, 03:28 AM
What I'm starting to love about the show is that there are hardly any "minor" or "side" characters. Everybody gets the opportunity to shine; ep7 had hardly any appearance by Eureka or Holland, and the crew of GekkoState all seem to have personality away from stereotype. Here's a living, breathing cast of people that's easy to identify with, and Renton is just the guy to carry this story with his 14-year-old sense of drama and heroism. GREAT stuff so far.

I only hope this doesn't get old within 50 episodes.

soundchazer
07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
At some point they have to make Renton look at least a little cool. Having him as the comedic relief of the series every episode does not sit well with me. Having said that, episode 7 was a gem.

soundchazer
07-11-2005, 11:00 AM
:Bump:

Episode 8 has come and gone, and we are finally starting to get a bit more background. It seems from the previews we are moving from a "get to know the characters" phase to the "why they are the way they are" phase. This one is usually one of the most interesting parts of a story.

Ghost~Writer
07-11-2005, 12:29 PM
I read this interesting little article in this month's Newtype Magazine referring to the PSP's UMD format. I quote:

"One of the more interesting Japanese releases coming up this summer is a package that includes both a UMD and DVD of the first volume of the recently debuted Eureka SeveN."

Clearly Eureka SeveN's popularity in Japan is being used as part of Sony's long term PSP marketing plan. Odd no?

Tremolo
07-11-2005, 12:38 PM
I read this interesting little article in this month's Newtype Magazine referring to the PSP's UMD format. I quote:

"One of the more interesting Japanese releases coming up this summer is a package that includes both a UMD and DVD of the first volume of the recently debuted Eureka SeveN."

Clearly Eureka SeveN's popularity in Japan is being used as part of Sony's long term PSP marketing plan. Odd no?

That raises a valid point. How popular IS Eureka Seven in Japan? I know there's franchise potential in it and all, but it's on Sunday morning in Japan. I guess if they're releasing it on UMD then it must be.

Due to my current computer problems (the sound drivers are f*cked, nothing works etc), missing new episodes of Eureka Seven is becoming seriously frustrating. I have no problems being behind with all the other stuff I'm watching, but E7 has really got under my skin and I'm desperate for more.

And as for episode nine, it seems the ball really gets rolling properly with this one. I can't wait.

Note to BANDAI: Release the DVD's ASAP plzthnx.

TypicalIdiotFan
07-12-2005, 01:18 AM
Episode 8:

This episode introduces something that every "alternate world" anime needs; religion. Whether we want to admit it or not, religion is a huge part of every developing culture. Often times we either never get to see an aspect of a unique belief structure or they simply waffle and mimic something similar to what already exists amongst the cultures of Earth. But creating a unique alternate world cannot be complete without bringing about the morals and ethics that shape the culture, and that almost always stems from some form of faith based structure.

Eureka 7 finally introduces us to something along those lines, although they really don't go into it. It seems as though more of that particular sect of thought is going to be exposed as the episodes go on, which is a good way of going about things. It is especially good since we'll be seeing it from the eyes of Renton, who knows about as much about it as we do (probably), and it may change him while we watch and learn ourselves. It's a good idea, and if it was anybody else other then BONES telling this story I might just write this off as a one shot deal. However, I think BONES knows how to tell a good story, and they'll do pretty much what I've described.

I don't care how cute they are, I want to shoot the kids.

loner
07-12-2005, 04:31 AM
I agree with TIF. Those kids needs to be put down.

I had expected them go into the belief/religion structure of the Eureka 7 world all along, since the Golden Bough is apparently very important part of the story, and that is practically a dictionary of ancient religions/faiths. I don't expect a belief structure totally original from what already existed in our world, per se, but rather not one that is commonly observed today, like Christianity or Judaism or Shintoism. Instead, I think it will be similar to the ancient faiths and beliefs, maybe something like the Egyptian mythology (Isis was mentioned) and Greco-Roman mythology (which is what the King of Nemi is based on).

Or maybe I've been reading into the connection with Golden Bough too much, and should just sit back for the fun action and interactions. I tend to overdo that.

loner
07-19-2005, 08:26 AM
One could say this is the best episode so far. It is definitely the most serious one.

I thought the Gekko State must have something to do with the military, considering the amount of weapons at their disposal. I had not expected Eureka's former identity however, and well, it's rather distressing. Now we have a legitimate reason for all the fighting against the military.

Those who cast Eureka 7 aside as a flop should definitely think again. This episode shows that this show is not all noob hazing and stuff, there's something very important going on, and IMO 50 episodes is more than enough to tell a great story.

Hmm, so the kids could have been shot. A bit harsh I suppose, since they must have endured some tough things this young, but really, they are quite annoying. I admit, half of me was disappointed that Eureka just had to make a choice at that particular moment.

soundchazer
07-20-2005, 06:29 PM
I agree, episode number 9 really is the catalyst for the REAL story. The previous episodes were just the foundations for us to understand the characters and the world they live in.

Tremolo
07-28-2005, 06:52 AM
So my computer's fixed, I'm back in the fansub loop and Eureka Seven continues to impress me enourmously.

Episode seven was an enjoyable bit of fluff. I laughed out loud at the "translation please" line and it was good to finally see a bit of Moondoggie's character.

Episode eight did a nice job of sowing the seeds for the following episode, and whilst the children are extremely annoying I find they're some of the more true-to-life representations of kids I've seen in anime.

Episode nine was rather fantastic, and judging from episode ten it seems the story is really going to get going. It seems we're finally going to meet Anemone, the evil-looking pink-haired girl from the OP.

All this does lead me to wonder, how old exactly is Eureka? I presume this is going to become a plot point later, but I'm pretty damn sure she's not human, and the arrival of Anemone should bring this to the fore a bit. She's got the same kind of look about her: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Mizuiro/anemone.jpg

And where's Renton's sister? And who are those mysterious people in the room with the green light? And why are Gekkostate so afraid of Dewey? So many questions.

Just a heads-up, episode 14 is a recap but also debuts the new OP, 'Shounen Heart' by Home Made Kazoku and ED 'Fly Away' by Izawa Asami, so it's worth watching at least for that!

soundchazer
08-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Holy MOFO!

episode 10 & 11 are taking the story to a new level. So WTF is Eureka anyway????
And what about the pink haired clone?

One thing I really LOVE, absolutely LOVE about this anime is the character designs. Anemone has some of the most expressive faces ever.

TypicalIdiotFan
08-14-2005, 03:10 AM
Episode 10 & 11:

Gushing right along with SC, I have to say that possibly the best aspect of the show so far is how LITTLE we know about everybody. I know I bitched a few episodes ago about how little we know about everybody, but now I see that the true strength to the storytelling is going to be what we find out along with Renton (and sometimes when he's not around, during introspective moments of the characters).

I still don't quite understand what people other then Holland, Eureka, and Talho really have to do with the major past events, but that's okay. So far, they're the most important, and most haunted, individuals. The rest of the crew has this extremely "fraternity" type feel; like they're all members of an extended family that can only be bourne out by being together for so long. And Renton is the "pledge", so to speak. It's not quite Animal House, but it's close.

Oh! And one last important thing....

TOTALLY BUCK NAKED TALHO SCENE!!!!! BOOYAH BOOYAH BOOYAH!!!

*FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP!!!!!~11!!1!1ONEHUNDREDELEVEN!!*

Tremolo
08-14-2005, 08:35 AM
Episodes 10 and 11.

Gush. Gush. Gush. Mofo-ing GUSH. Episode 11 was probably the best yet for my money: Anemone rocks - she's like a completely batshit crazy version of Eureka and really creeps me out, and her Nirvash is totally badass.

This is fantastic stuff, truly the sleeper hit of the year (I swear it seems like just me, TIF, The Doc and loner are watching this, which is a shame) and I'm really expecting big things as it goes along. This could well be BONES' next masterpiece.

Linuts
08-14-2005, 09:38 AM
I swear it seems like just me, TIF, The Doc and loner are watching this, which is a shame.


Nah, I'm watching this too, along with tons of other leechers out there :D. Just never commented since I don't how much more I can add to the conversation... Like now :D.

After ep 10 & 11... All I can say is theEND and Anemone will be in my nightmares for a while.

Tremolo
08-14-2005, 09:49 AM
Nah, I'm watching this too, along with tons of other leechers out there :D. Just never commented since I don't how much more I can add to the conversation... Like now :D.

After ep 10 & 11... All I can say is theEND and Anemone will be in my nightmares for a while.

Glad to hear it :D

And god, theEND is just ****ed-up. What's with all those eyes? I'm getting End of Evangelion flashbacks, I swear.

I've never liked eyes :(

Ender
08-14-2005, 10:26 AM
Ara ra,

This is fantastic stuff, truly the sleeper hit of the year (I swear it seems like just me, TIF, The Doc and loner are watching this, which is a shame) and I'm really expecting big things as it goes along. This could well be BONES' next masterpiece.

Actually, I was able to catch a couple of eps while I was in Tokyo (I think they were like 13 and 14). I can whole-heartedly say that it has piqued my interest a great deal. I haven't seen an adventure series this well-crafted in a while.

I've been trying to keep track of it and it's hit my top priority of anime that is worth watching. But I'm sure more people will grow interested in it when Bandai releases it next year.

The mech designs give me this weird feeling though. Sort of a cross between
Macross and Tetsujin 28/Gigantor.

-Prof. Ender

TypicalIdiotFan
08-14-2005, 04:04 PM
The mech designs give me this weird feeling though. Sort of a cross between
Macross and Tetsujin 28/Gigantor.

Yeah, and they SURF. SURF!!!!

I still haven't gotten over that. I don't care how much exposure we've gotten to that, or how important that the Trapar seems to be to this world, surfing mecha is still way over my head.

loner
08-15-2005, 09:11 PM
This is fantastic stuff, truly the sleeper hit of the year (I swear it seems like just me, TIF, The Doc and loner are watching this, which is a shame) and I'm really expecting big things as it goes along. This could well be BONES' next masterpiece.


Heh not like it's something to brag about. This is licensed, and we are kinda of...you know what I mean.

Finally saw these episodes, and woah. There's lots of really messed up things in this world. theEND is just totally wack, and I'm apprehensive of the next episode after seeing the preview. That Anemone is just f&cked up in the head, and that's totally cool. I knew Eureka can't be a normal human since she doesn't appear to age at all, but that scene with Anemone, assuming that she and Eureka are of the same...er...species, takes this to a totally different aspect.

You know, aside of the surfing mechas and the annoying kids, I can't find any fault with this show so far either. The storytelling's perfect, and the characters are wonderfully complex, yet human. It's a shame that a lot of people wrote this off just because Bones took its time to develop the characters and the relationships between them, saying that nothing happens and shit. Here's a lesson kiddos: trust Bones with their writing. They seldom fail.

The Zone reminds me of Fantastic Children. I fully expect huge towering human-shaped shadows to lurk around it, and children with albino hair going towards it.

TypicalIdiotFan
08-16-2005, 01:07 AM
Heh not like it's something to brag about. This is licensed, and we are kinda of...you know what I mean.

Whaddyamean "kinda"? :D

Tremolo
08-16-2005, 06:25 AM
Heh not like it's something to brag about. This is licensed, and we are kinda of...you know what I mean.

We're internet pirates, yarr. ;)

I'm actually glad it's already licenced, mainly because there's no "argh, who's going to get it" speculation and the fansubs dropping like flies when it does (not that that really stops anyone nowadays). And I love Bandai so the DVD release is a sure sell for me.

It does annoy me how people didn't give it a chance for the first few episodes. From experience I've learnt that 50-episode series rarely get going until the 'teens (Fullmetal Alchemist with episode 14, most of the Gundam series, many more...) and Eureka Seven is no exception.

Tremolo
08-22-2005, 09:55 AM
Episode 12.

In which Eureka Seven goes all "introspective mecha" on us.

Well, kind of. Neon Genesis Evangelion never had Shinji being pushed into giant toilet. I'm not sure whether these hallucination sequences were parodying those in Evangelion, RahXephon or Fafner (to a lesser extent) for instance or were intentionally Alice in Wonderland-esque. Whatever, they were pretty nifty all the same, not to mention wonderfully surreal. Not sure what I'd do if I found Anemone in my fridge, but there you go.

Nice to see some of the stuff in the OP finally make sense, but the episode still posed a lot of questions. Could Renton's sister be in the Zone, for instance? Meanwhile, the animation remains stellar, with some wonderfully expressive faces and the music continues to be a nice mix of classical and more modern influences.

Overall, an exceptional episode. I can't wait to see where things go from here. And with the next episode called 'The Beginning', it leads me to wonder maybe the proper story has even BEGUN yet.

Shadowmage
08-26-2005, 03:22 PM
(I swear it seems like just me, TIF, The Doc and loner are watching this, which is a shame)
*Shadowmage raises his hand like Linuts.
I really wouldn't call this a sleeper hit of this year simply because the show had a lot of potential from the start. (The fact that BONES is writing the script should also be a tip off.)

Anyways Episode 12

This seriously reminds me of the Sea of Dirac scene from Evangelion (you know, the black sphere Angel). As Tremolo said, it is surreal and has a very creepy feeling to it. I wonder how this will affect the plot, but I'm pretty sure we were just indirectly handed a flashback. (or foreshadowing)

Wow, 38 more episodes to develop the story and characters. I swear, Bones gets more accomplished in fifty episodes that most series do in twice that.

Tremolo
08-26-2005, 05:44 PM
*Shadowmage raises his hand like Linuts.
I really wouldn't call this a sleeper hit of this year simply because the show had a lot of potential from the start. (The fact that BONES is writing the script should also be a tip off.)

Well I am glad to hear that - the more the merrier I say.

By sleeper hit, it seems to me that hardly anyone's really talking about this series in anime fandom generally, which is surprising considering it's BONES and all. I guess the surfboarding mecha aren't for everyone.

That said, I'm going to miss reading TIF's thoughts on the series. Ah well. :(

loner
08-28-2005, 02:35 AM
Finally got around to this.

Ep. 12

The 'Dreamscape' scenes actually reminded me more of a totally different anime in a totally different genre: Rozen Maiden. That anime had a lot of that, and in it everything managed to symbolize something about the characters having the hallucinations. I was really impressed with that, so I'm extremely curious to see what everything in Renton's dream symbolized, as they are a lot more complicated and their meanings seem more vague. The Zone on the other hand reminded me more of Fantastic Children.

All the while, I'm still wondering how the story of the King of Nemi ties in with all this. This is truly an exceptional anime that is extremely ambitious, and dares to go to places where other mecha anime simple back away. They are drawing references from much more obscure sources than the usual Bible, current political events, etc., and is much more original and creative than most mech shows out there.

soundchazer
09-13-2005, 02:03 PM
Episode 13:
Ahhh... the plot thickens. We learn just how much of an unknown quantity Renton really is. It is also interesting to know the military has been spying on him, so they probably know something we don't.... will we learn more about Eureka and Anemone???

Shadowmage
09-13-2005, 08:51 PM
Episode 13

There has yet to be a weak episode of this anime. I think that this episode sets the stage for a long term rivalry. Out of all honestly, I have never cared about technobabble until now. I want to know what they are talking about when they start ranting about random things. Hopefully, they will clear up some of the technology.

Taleweaver
09-14-2005, 12:57 PM
Beautiful stuff, absolutely. The plot is at least as well-written as that of Fullmetal Alchemist, and the new revelations in every episode add to both the characters' personalities and the entire setting. More! More!

Kaito Fujiwara
09-15-2005, 06:05 PM
I keep having the same thought at the end of each episode, MORE MORE MORE!!!

Datsun
09-16-2005, 04:05 AM
I'm sort of surprised they made that military dude (was it Dominic?) a bit goofier than he seems in earlier episodes - I mean, wouldn't military people be able to tell which direction west is?

With regards to the ending song being played as an insert song... I love the song itself, but it just didn't seem to work as an insert song in this case... it just seemed sort of inappropriate to the situation and didn't match the emotions or mood of the scene I felt.

And although some of the episodes have been slow, the last few have been able to pull me in with the recent plot revelations - this show is starting to look really, really good.

loner
09-22-2005, 10:45 PM
Ai, belated again...

I agree with Datsun. Dominic should have failed military school if he can't even tell directions. Ah well, he's probably bribed the commanding officers or something. And yeah, the ending didn't fit as an insert song.

But that's the only peeves I have with this episode, which otherwise is done beautifully. I'm not sure if the freaky leaders of the government are pure evil, but Dominic and Anemone sure are not. Yeah Anemone is insane, but she can't help herself. And Dominic's care for Anemone actually beats Renton's for Eureka at this moment. Unfortunately, I can see both of them ending tragically.

As for the revelation that the military know who Renton is, that's not at all surprising. Nor the fact he is being tailed. After all, his father is one of the most famous person in that world. I do wonder what he and Renton's sister have to do with Eureka and Anemone.

PsychoSaiya-jin
09-23-2005, 07:52 AM
I've been getting into arguements with one or two people about the pre-licencing of certain anime shows (ie: shows that are licenced before they even air in japan).
I'd like to know exactly how many shows that have been pre-licenced have actually had a western release yet. I'm still waiting to buy Kurau: The Phantom Memory.

I'm not going to out-right advocate the fansubbing of shows that have been pre-liceneced but I do feel that distro's should be bringing out these shows quicker and if they aren't then I'm going to watch them anyway I can (raw if nesseary).

Tremolo
09-23-2005, 10:05 AM
I've been getting into arguements with one or two people about the pre-licencing of certain anime shows (ie: shows that are licenced before they even air in japan).
I'd like to know exactly how many shows that have been pre-licenced have actually had a western release yet. I'm still waiting to buy Kurau: The Phantom Memory.

I'm not going to out-right advocate the fansubbing of shows that have been pre-liceneced but I do feel that distro's should be bringing out these shows quicker and if they aren't then I'm going to watch them anyway I can (raw if nesseary).

Kurau has been sat on for simply AGES without a peep from ADV about it. I honestly don't know why they bothered, because hardly any fans have heard about it or seen it as a result.

Bandai however have not done this with Eureka Seven (but they have with Fantastic Children! Bastards!). They have a website up and the DVD's will probably being coming out before the end of the year. And yes, I will be buying them (as well as carrying on watching the subs :D) - the series is too good NOT too, and BONES series always look gorgeous on DVD.

EDIT: But what did I think of episode 13?! Great stuff yet again. Honestly, the way this is going I can see this being better than Fullmetal Alchemist and I do not say that lightly. The pacing is absolutely perfect, and I adore the characters. Dominic really endeared himself to me as well, what a doof, but a caring one at that. I love the fact that the supposed bad guys aren't really "bad" at all, although Dewey and the people in the green room are still a mystery. I would say "I can't wait for the next episode", but it's a recap - although the new opening (HOME MADE KAZOKU!) and ending debut with it, so it's worth checking out for that.

Shadowmage
10-06-2005, 08:34 PM
Episode 14

It's a recap, but it has some historical background of the Gekko State.

...
On related news:
Watch Bandai slaughter Renton's voice!
http://eurekaseven.bandai-ent.com/

soundchazer
10-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Well... it is a very nice sounding voice... the problem is... it doesn't sound like a 14 year old. Just like with Sousuke in the dubbed version of FMP, great acting, but bad casting.

Shadowmage
11-02-2005, 07:34 PM
Episode 15 (3 consecutive episode release FTW! Thanks Nanashi!)

This show is a serious contendor for the best anime of 2005. It seems that the relationship between Renton and Eureka has hit a strain. Renton is showing a great deal of angst and Eureka seems to be in a state of depression. I love how the plot is flowing along with character development. Anways, it seems that Holland has the hots for Renton's sister... This could get interesting.

As for eyecatches...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/vlcsnap-71952.png
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/vlcsnap-72111.png

mmyy
11-03-2005, 09:39 AM
LOL. That was hillarious! I laughed so hard!

Skyfishes are scary. In episode 16 at least. Actually, scenes relating to Anemone are disturbing, as much as I find them alluring.

Shadowmage
11-03-2005, 05:52 PM
Episode 16-17

This show is one of the few anime that has genuine teenage romance. Despite being a staple of many mech anime, the children's angst feels justified and somewhat original. Anyways, it seems that even the Skyfishes play important roles in this anime (theres Bones for you...) With a great deal of time left, I wonder where this series will go.

soundchazer
11-10-2005, 04:55 AM
Episode 18...

A little slower than some of the others in the past, but it seems that we're about to see another step in Renton's maturation process. We also may be witness to the furthest apart Eurka and him will be in the whole storyline. Frustration is building up everywhere.

Shadowmage
11-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Episode 18

This is one of the few shows that manages to portray teenage angst without making it cliched or boring. While the presence of the once and done characters is starting to consume the plot, they give good insights into the world of Eureka 7. Bones has been known to make facinating worlds full of quircky personalities and innovative ideas that are oddly down-to-earth. I can't wait for the next episode...

loner
11-19-2005, 02:45 PM
15-18 IMO really starts the plot. What we had before are character introduction and set up episodes, which basically gives us a good idea of what the world is like, who the characters are with a bit of their secrets thrown in, and what the sides are. And now we get to the juicy part.

Renton and Eureka's relationship is developed in excellent fashion. They showed how deep and conflicted they are. Renton is much more than your typical spunky shonen hero. He has his own complex conflicts, as shown in ep. 15 and 18. I don't think the once-and-done characters like Renton's uncle and the miner are bogging down the plot. They are actually enhancing the plot greatly by giving Renton much more dimensions than he had before.

This show is extremely addicting. I don't like the band that sang the OP that much, but the OP is damn addicting.

Linuts
12-07-2005, 09:44 PM
Ep 19

What a tense episode. Angst is spilling everywhere. Holland seems to want to beat up Renton every chance he gets. Just what is his problem with Renton piloting Nirvash? And Eureka is looking mightily down... To the point of... Melting away?

Damn, this show doesn't stop moving does it X.

Taleweaver
12-07-2005, 11:43 PM
Holland grows more and more into an *******, and I'm beginning to wonder what his motivations are. There aren't many mysteries to the behavior of Renton and Eureka (Eureka's condition is still a little unclear but hinted at rather obviously), but I can't make heads or tails of what the old man is getting at with his apparent hatred of Renton and his piloting of the Nirvash.

As for the kids, WOW! Great character play during this episode. Renton's feelings are absolutely believable. Much, much better than virtually anything I've seen before!

Taleweaver
12-10-2005, 02:33 PM
What? Double-post again?!

Ep20:

Wow.

Just... wow.

First one of the absolutely coolest in jokes ever - the desert prison - leading up to the best fscking action sequence ever. I mean, okay, half the episode consists of it, but it ends in a so totally insanely powerful ending that words almost cannot describe it. This is everything Evangelion ever wanted to be when it came to extremes, and more.

Wow.

I'm still not entirely sure whether I just saw this. Let me take a few minutes off.

Lurker
12-11-2005, 03:37 AM
Taleweaver is right that this particular episode was very powerful. For a while there, I thought the buildup through the episode was going to result in Holland's death, but I suppose that can't really happen just yet.

I'm still trying to figure out if the translation of the prison in question was actually what the subtitler's put or if they embelished a bit for a joke. It definately is supposed to be close regardless.

Frog
12-11-2005, 08:19 PM
This is everything Evangelion ever wanted to be when it came to extremes, and more..
And by more you mean just because the other pilot died this time that its not supposed to feel like its taking from evangelion, because quite frankly it looked almost like the exact same scene to me. I was not in shock or awe or what not, but what i am in shock with is the amount of stuff eureka 7 is using that had only previously been successful to eva, ala the in depth look at the characters minds. Some anime’s have tried this, eva pulling it off successfully, but the more I watch the more im compelled to notice that eureka 7’s mind analysis is actually getting it right. The only noticeable difference though between the mind analysis is that in eureka 7’s the outline is clearer, while eva’s was to busy being ambiguous with a chock full of symbolism.

currywu
12-14-2005, 10:29 AM
I really wasn't that impressed with this episode. Between Shinji & Ayato, I've had enough boy mecha pilot angst to last me a lifetime. Frankly, the action was old hat since some of the choregraphy seemed to be lifted straight from End of Evangelion. And I don't know if I'm alone on this, but thus far there's not a single character I even mildly like. (Still a good show though)

soundchazer
12-14-2005, 11:47 AM
I really wasn't that impressed with this episode. Between Shinji & Ayato, I've had enough boy mecha pilot angst to last me a lifetime. Frankly, the action was old hat since some of the choregraphy seemed to be lifted straight from End of Evangelion. And I don't know if I'm alone on this, but thus far there's not a single character I even mildly like. (Still a good show though)

I kind of agree with you here. At first I was saying "wow", because my adrenaline was pretty much numbing my brain with nice images of mindless, but well choreographed violence. Once the adrenaline rush subsided, I thought to myself "wait a minute... Shinji and his mecha went bananas once in Evangelion (the TV series). My initial reaction of wonder was exchanged for a feel of being cheated a little bit. It was still a great episode, but not as great as I initially thought.

Shadowmage
12-17-2005, 01:43 PM
Episode 21

It seems that the angst has reached a peak. I love how well they are managing the character development along with realistic emotions. It's kind of sad to see an emo Renton, but he eventually had to learn that he was killing people. Well, at least we can be happy that he didn't have dysfunctitonal childhood (and a girlfriend) unlike our old angst bucket, Shinji. It seems that we get to see the two new faces in the intro next episode. I predict that Renton will come over and save Gekko Go when it is about to be destroyed. (Wait a second... Where have I seen this before? Touji?)

currywu
12-17-2005, 04:02 PM
I found the saddest thing about this episode to be how pale and frazzled Eureka's hair looked. The character art for this show rocks.

Just throwing a question out there; what's with this hand thing:

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9237/hand2kw.gif

I've seen it in several other shows and never really got the significance of it.

Tremolo
12-18-2005, 01:04 PM
The character art for this show rocks.

Agreed, I absolutely love it the character designs. They really add to the "look" of the show quite a bit.


I was initially rather sceptical of the angstier direction the show seemed to be taking in the later 'teens, but 20 (despite the Evangelion homage) and 21 really won me over. Charles and Ray (see what they did there olololol) seem like pretty interesting new characters who should hopefully add a whole new dynamic to the show - and I love their mecha.

Once again my expectations and hopes for this series have been raised again. Especially once the plot really kicks into gear.

Lurker
01-05-2006, 12:45 AM
God this show is good.

Episode 22:

We were introduced to Charles and Ray in the last episode, and it seemed as though they were just going to be our main "foils" to the good guys. They were going to be the elite team that brings down the Nirvarsh and the Gekko-Go, especially because of an unsettled score between Charles and Holland.

Throw that crap out the window.

Not only do the married freelancers like Raves (who doesn't?) but they also know how to come into a storyline and completely throw everything off kilter. It was expected by the episode preview that they'd take Renton in for a while, and in most anime this would be a very brief thing only involving the episode. The story would gather enough momentum to make a confrontation between the Gekko Go and them tragic but otherwise unsatisfying.

Throw that crap out the window.

Not only do our alternate Ref'ers take the boy in, but they really take him in. They give him a room and feed him, showing off their boards and LFO's, treating him nicer then he would have been on the Gekko Go. This, of course, is an obvious setup to trick the poor boy into betraying the Gekko Go and allowing them to accomplish their mission, thus setting them up as the worst badguys in the entire show. The plot setup is so transparent that you can see it coming a mile away.

Throw that crap out the window.

So the involvement of the couple has nothing to do with the above cliche'd anime plot points? What could possibly be left?

Watch it.

Episode 23

The couple start to incorporate Renton into their business, and he sort of makes a fool of himself. In the end, this is another growing episode for Renton and his struggles with reality. The real magic of this episode is actually back on the Gekko Go, where Holland is really not dealing with something very well. Then again, neither is Eureka. But what oh what?

Episode 24

Maybe the best episode of this series so far. Remember what I said about the couple above and their intentions? They come out full force here. Charles and Ray manage to endear themselves to the viewer so quickly that you really feel bad for them by the end of this. The truth comes out on both sides, and in the end, the perfect situations for these three people is shattered with nothing but pain and disappointment left to fill the void. Ray, in particular... well you just wanna give her a hug.

A rational solution to the problem can't be found, or, perhaps, they're so engraved into their pasts and their stigmas towards what turns out to be fact that they refuse to accept a rational solution. It's sad, so very sad.

There is no way in heck they end this in 26 episodes. There's way too much story to be told yet and it feels like we're just getting started. If things continue, this may trump Honey & Clover for best new anime of 2005. It's well acted, well written, well animated, and well executed. Flawless? No. But damned good.

loner
01-05-2006, 01:39 AM
That's why it won't be ended in 26. It's a 52 episode series, and is well into the 30s right now I believe. (slow subbers >_>)

Seen up to 21. All I can say that for all the Evangelion homage that people keep saying, I'd say this is Evangelion done right. It may be doing a lot of things that Evangelion have tried to do, but Eureka 7 is doing it right. And that IMO, so far makes it superior to Evangelion.

One thing's for sure: Renton > Shinji, and Holland > Gendo.

chowk
01-07-2006, 05:28 PM
Started Eureka 7 last week and watched all 23 episodes straight through... what a ride. Music is good, animation is top notch, strong characters and what looks to be a great storyline.

Then we get ep 24 which I think is one of if not the best episode so far. Eureka has gone up in the kawaii stakes with the hat and sling...

Lurker
01-14-2006, 04:10 AM
Episode 25:

This episode would be filler for anybody else but BONES. Featured herein is a great character that reminds me a lot of Tom Bomabdil from the Fellowship of the Ring. A very whimsical character who seems to be a complete loony but is actually extremely wise in what matters and what is important; someone who you could believe knows more then they're willing to let on. I have a feeling his involvement will have quite an impact on Renton, especially later.

The bit at the end surprised me too. And so we're heading towards a tragic showdown between Holland and the Gekko-Go and Ray and Charles. It was inevitable the moment we saw them, but they have been built up at least little bit so that it doesn't come off as a simple thing. I sincerely hope we get to see more of them.

Taleweaver
01-15-2006, 02:07 AM
Eureka Seven, almost from the very beginning, has always managed to give me intriguing developments and nice surprises, but the current part of the story is clearly the deepest and (to me) most interesting so far. Holland's darker side now consistently shows in his scenes (no more comic relief around him), and his former friendship with Ray and Charles is almost sure to bring about tragedy when he meets them again. On the other hand, maybe the script can surprise me again and turn the story into yet another direction. Like Lurker pointed out above, it has already done nicely in this respect.

As for Renton, his little "odyssey" will have changed him in quite a few respects when he returns. He is now clearly certain of his feelings towards Eureka, and he is willing (and probably even able) to take responsibility for these feelings. He's still a child, but also much more understanding of his own situation and of his part within Gekkostate. I'm eager to see how his return will work out.

kurah
01-24-2006, 03:28 AM
wow...episode 26 is beautiful :)

Lurker
01-24-2006, 03:29 AM
Episode 26:

Absolutely breathtaking end for the first season. I want more.

Ashton
01-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Yup, episode 26 was awesome, my favorite by far at the moment. The animation was really nice, especially in the final sequence. It's gonna be interesting to see how things fare on the Gekko-Go after this one...

currywu
01-25-2006, 10:13 AM
Seen up to 21. All I can say that for all the Evangelion homage that people keep saying, I'd say this is Evangelion done right. It may be doing a lot of things that Evangelion have tried to do, but Eureka 7 is doing it right. And that IMO, so far makes it superior to Evangelion.

One thing's for sure: Renton > Shinji, and Holland > Gendo.Except RahXephon was already Eva done right. Aside from Renton going berserk in that one episode I don't see nearly as many similarities between Eureka 7 and Eva. I don't know if the creators were intentionally or subconsciously channeling Eva but it appears they've moved on as the show is taking a vastly different direction. (For one, letting Eureka break out of her shell instead of staying all Rei-ish).

Oh, and I think Holland is a complete ass. I'm sure there's a ton of background story that explains his vicious, abusive behavior towards Renton but it doesn't absolve him from being an unlikable, immature dick.

Linuts
01-25-2006, 09:12 PM
Well... If you dig deep deeep down to the very base of the plot of Eureka 7, it isn't completely original... So it's easy to make comparisons to other well known mecha series. But, what Bones did with everything else has been far and above every other show of its kind.

26 was the perfect season ender. Lush movie-quality animation, great tension build-up and lots of emotional impact at the very end. Bones took their time to build Renton and Eureka's character, and this really helped with their reunion scene.

I am actually finding Holland to be more and more interesting... Despite being an ass. His conflicting adult and childish layers of personality makes him that much more complex.

Tremolo
01-27-2006, 11:03 AM
I'm finally caught up, and honestly, I just adore this series.

I really don't know what else there is to say. Episode 26 was pure perfection and nearly reduced me to tears in places. It's just magnificent stuff. I don't know how Bones are able to produce amazing series after amazing series (and this is coming pretty much off the back of Fullmetal Alchemist, too and Kurau: Phantom Memory which finished a month or so later, but whatever) but they just keep impressing me.

So yeah. General info-dump time:

We get a new OP and ED with the next episode (which incidentally can't come soon enough - hurry up, *insert fansub group here*) - I've heard the OP song and it's really good: more of a catchy, hard, rockier sound to it, and I've seen the new ED which is gorgeous, in black and white and features all the E7 girls. The song's a nice female rap thing, too. I like.

Also, the first DVD volume is up for pre-order at all the usual places in regular and limited edition. Rest assured, I already have mine safely ordered :D

Linuts
01-27-2006, 07:56 PM
Also, the first DVD volume is up for pre-order at all the usual places in regular and limited edition. Rest assured, I already have mine safely ordered :D

Well effing finally! Can't wait to get my paycheck.

BTW, does anyone know the name of the song being played during Renton and Eureka's rescue scene? Not the ending song, nor the one when Nirvash was disarming all the other LFOs.

Lurker
01-27-2006, 09:35 PM
I think that was "Storywriter".

Linuts
01-28-2006, 10:24 AM
I think that was "Storywriter".

Ah, thanks Lurker. I really need to get the OST sometime.

Lurker
01-28-2006, 01:02 PM
Ah, thanks Lurker. I really need to get the OST sometime.

You're welcome Linuts.

loner
02-02-2006, 03:18 PM
Up to ep. 26. Must say this is probably the best series of last year the way it is going. And while there are some really great series that came out last year, not one can match Eureka 7's epicness. In fact, this series has been able to achieve a perfect balance between an epic struggle in a world torn with turmoil with a personal story of a boy coming to age, all of which are very serious stuff, but somehow still manage to mix in comedy quite well. Moreover, while a lot of stuff is "hip and cool", there's also a great sense of grandeur, and this is reflected perfectly in its soundtrack, where we have songs like the 2nd OP with rap and some really beautiful and powerful pieces like the BGM towards the end of ep. 26. In fact, Storywriter itself is a synthesis of these two elements. I'm simply amazed at how they can pull it all off, and to have a great story to go along with it.

I must say I'm extremely intrigued at how they are going to incorporate the Golden Bough into this show, the book that Dewey and Holland had been reading in earlier episodes. Like I said before, the Golden Bough is one of the greatest book of religious history and anthropology, and is like an encyclopedia of ancient cults and the customs and rites of every culture in the world. You already see some relevance with the rites and customs of the Vodarek, but I think this book, especially its central story of the King of the Woods, would play a very central part in the rest of the series.

The way I see Holland so far is that he is seeing his past self in Renton. I am speculating here, but he probably looked up to Aldrock (Renton's dad) like Renton looked up to him in the beginning of the series. Maybe Renton reminded him of stuff he doesn't want to remember. Maybe he's doing this so Renton would be disappointed later. His a jerk, but is he doing that intentionally for a reason, or is he just doing it out of impulse?

soundchazer
02-02-2006, 03:21 PM
The way I see Holland so far is that he is seeing his past self in Renton. I am speculating here, but he probably looked up to Aldrock (Renton's dad) like Renton looked up to him in the beginning of the series. Maybe Renton reminded him of stuff he doesn't want to remember. Maybe he's doing this so Renton would be disappointed later. His a jerk, but is he doing that intentionally for a reason, or is he just doing it out of impulse?

I think it is all a bad case of PMS.

soundchazer
02-04-2006, 08:05 PM
Episode 27...
OMFG!!!1111

You liked 26? Wait until you watch 27! I won't even do the spoiler thing. I just can't!

Edit: Ok... it is official... Bones is right now the undisputed king of anime.

28 is just as intense as 27, and given the blurb for episode 29, I can't wait for our fansubbing friends to release that one!

Lurker
02-05-2006, 04:05 AM
Episode 27:

I am officially sad.

I liked Charles. I thought Renton and them had formed a real familial bond torn asunder only by a "reality" they couldn't cope with. Renton's reactions, though, seemed a bit flat to me. I was expecting a bit more emotion I guess.

And Holland.... did you have to use the whole clip? Good god.

Greatest anime of 2005. Honey & Clover was great. FMP TSR was great. Lots of other greats. But Eureka 7 is amazing. Just amazing.

28 in acquisition process.

soundchazer
02-05-2006, 04:12 AM
Mah... Renton's reaction is natural. He was in shock. View episode 28 before jumping to conclusions.

currywu
02-05-2006, 10:58 AM
Arrghh!! Why? Why did they have to do that to my two favorite characters?

Other than that I have nothing else to say. I'm still shell-shocked.

The new OP kinda sucks; it's too dark. Love the ED though (both song and animation).

Tremolo
02-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Episodes 27 & 28

I think the phrase "raising the bar" applies pretty nicely in this case.

This series is amazing. These two episodes were mindblowingly good, and genuinely shocking, exciting and rather moving at the same time.

I can only echo Lurker's sentiments. Greatest anime of 2005.

The new OP is kind of weird - it doesn't really match the song (and I love the song) and it is a bit too dark and slow. The new ED is awesome too, and the song is so perfectly bubblegum pop. Great stuff.

Lurker
02-06-2006, 02:37 AM
Episode 28:

Officially sadder.

I really liked Ray, perhaps even more then Charles, but I knew that this was inevitable. I also knew that her fury and wrath would be more terrible then anybody else's. A mother scorned and a wife robbed; a woman can be a scary thing when she's in a fit of despair. The peaceful humming was beautifully done over scenes of that despair; Ray destroying everything that she knew, that she was, but not her hopes and dreams. The table. The table that they had dinner at together as "the family" was untouched. She hung onto that. Perhaps she believed that she really could get Renton back and make a family with just him in Charles' memory. She'd descended into the truest pits of madness.

It was so beautiful I wanted to cry. This anime rules.

What was probably even more haunting was Ray's humming still being heard by the viewer while Renton was talking to Holland, listening to the techno song. That... was creepy.

Taleweaver
02-06-2006, 10:14 AM
Again, Eureka Seven has shown that it pulls no punches when it comes to showing the effects of violence. The two wedding rings and the scenes around them were perfect examples of how to show the audience you're dead serious about your message. I concur with the guys above me; best anime series of 2005/06 so far.

currywu
02-06-2006, 12:25 PM
This is just in regards to Bones in general: I am most impressed with their ability to deliver both style and substance in spades. They are the only studio right now that can consistently bring together the best of both worlds, along with amazing production values, catchy music, great voicework...it's just the whole package. I'd like to jump on the Bones bandwagon but I'm afraid there's no more space left. :D

(still think H&C is the best of '05 but whatever...)

soundchazer
02-06-2006, 03:48 PM
(still think H&C is the best of '05 but whatever...)

Preach on, my brother. I'm with you on that.

currywu
02-06-2006, 07:04 PM
Preach on, my brother. I'm with you on that.One love, baby, one love. That's why I've always considered you the best prof. :p

Tremolo
02-06-2006, 07:17 PM
* Tremolo interrupts the mildly-disturbing love-in

I think it's pretty unfair to compare a slice of life comedy/romance/drama to an epic mecha series, to be honest. There's no grounding of an argument to suggest which is superior, although Eureka Seven gets my vote simply because Holland firing an entire clip of bullets into Charles' stomach, Renton going berserk on the LFO's, the glorious Renton and Eureka reuniting in the air scene from episode 26, Renton and the kids vandalising the military base in episode 6, Ray's death and many others got far more of an emotional reaction out of me than anything in Honey & Clover.

currywu
02-06-2006, 10:55 PM
* Tremolo interrupts the mildly-disturbing love-in

I think it's pretty unfair to compare a slice of life comedy/romance/drama to an epic mecha series, to be honest. There's no grounding of an argument to suggest which is superior, although Eureka Seven gets my vote simply because Holland firing an entire clip of bullets into Charles' stomach, Renton going berserk on the LFO's, the glorious Renton and Eureka reuniting in the air scene from episode 26, Renton and the kids vandalising the military base in episode 6, Ray's death and many others got far more of an emotional reaction out of me than anything in Honey & Clover.Yar, it's unfair but what's a forum without pointless debate. It's mainly personal tastes as I'll always prefer slice of life to mecha/shonen. And half of the scenes you mentioned are from the last three episodes, which have been insanely good. There's a chance that Eureka Seven could dip in quality in the future, though according to the raw watchers that hasn't happened yet.

EDIT: Just to add to that, I think it's more unfair to compare a finished series to one that's only halfway thru its run. I'll say this: if Eureka Seven can maintain at least some semblance of its current momentum till the end, then I'll consider it to be among the BEST EVAR.

Linuts
02-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Is it just me, or does the new opening remind people a lot of Naruto? *brrrr*

Opening aside, 27&28 continued the momentum of 26. Damn, Bones is getting good at doing the right things at the right time. Just after a happy reunion episode, we get another dark and emotional episodes of loss. I think if I've watched all three episodes at one go, my emotions would've been pretty messed up :p. So far, it's probably a tie for me for best anime of 2005 between this and H&C. Both shows did things beyond their own genres and most anime as a whole.

BTW, love the new ending. Loving the OST, but trash the 3rd opening :p.

Dirty Harry
02-09-2006, 12:47 PM
I just started the series at episodes 27/28, and I've got to say, those were some damn cool episodes even without the backing of the 26 episodes that came before it. Really dark, yes; I loved it.

So I've went back and I'm starting at episode 1, and so far so good, the humor is good enough, and it really is a swell looking show. Can't wait to see more.

Lurker
02-09-2006, 05:30 PM
I just started the series at episodes 27/28, and I've got to say, those were some damn cool episodes even without the backing of the 26 episodes that came before it. Really dark, yes; I loved it.

I think you probably did wrong by doing this. But if it turns out ok, then more power to you. Somehow I just don't think those two episodes alone would be good as an indication of Eureka 7 as a whole.

Still... whatever gets you interested. It is a great show.

Lurker
02-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Episode 6

Now I'm really engaged. This show is doing what every show should do: don't rush things, and let everybody understand the situations and people first. I feel through these mundane, routined episodes, Bones has made me like these characters and connect with them. That's good.

There's something that interests me a lot though: the book that Holland is reading. The Golden Bough is a very famous anthropology book by Sir James George Frazer, and incidentally I'm reading an abridged version of it right now. A very interesting book, which I recommend to everyone. Holland said something about 'killing of a king', which I assume must be about the King of the Wood. The King of the Wood is the priest-king of the woods near Lake of Nemi, believed to be the home of the Roman Goddess Diana (who I suppose is the lady on the cover). Whoever wants to be the next King of the Wood must kill his predecessor in single combat to take over his place, and will rule until the next challenger come. A person can also only challenge the incumbent priest 'if he had first succeeded in plucking a golden bough from the tree which the priest was guarding'. Now how will Eureka 7 use this story? And if Bones do use this story, then there must be a lot of very deep themes and messages set to be revealed in the future.

Copied from page 3 and more info needed. Dewey referred to Renton as the new King. Charles mentioned that too in episode 26. It seems as though perhaps some aspects of the story are going to become more important. So, loner, what else can you tell us about that story?

loner
02-12-2006, 12:39 PM
>_<

If I'm reading the book right now, I would have more information. As of now, I have Euripedes and Rousseau to deal with, and once I have time to get the book again, I'll refresh myself. But that is the gist of the story, and Frazer simply uses this story to guide his readers in a search throughout the world for the rituals, customs and cults of every group of people. Among the gods that he paid quite a bit of attention to are fertility gods like Adonis, Attis, Osiris, Demeter and Persephone, and Dionysis, which I'm not sure whether if they will have some kind of meaning in the show (Isis was mentioned though).

Well one more detail. Frazer did say that the life of the King of the Wood is not a good one, since he always need to on the lookout for the challenger that will take his life. He is always in anxiety, and always lonely, guarding the tree with the golden bough. Now, is the golden bough in the show Eureka? That since Renton has "won" over Eureka, he can now challenge to be the next king?

Anyways, ep. 27 and 28 were utterly brilliant. Utterly brilliant. Charles was such a great character, the kind that you feel immediately attached to and look up to. Ray has been the most intriguing character I've seen in quite a while. And her humming simply left me in awe.

Oh so tragic. It's gonna happen, I expected that, but the way they did it was simply brilliant.

Sorry, but this is the best show of 2005. No show from that year managed to make me so emotionally attached as this one. And now show had so much impact on me as this one.

soundchazer
02-12-2006, 12:54 PM
and this is from the man who told me to wait 'til the last episode of Traumend to make an assestment of the series.

If I didn't know better I would swear you are a girl, since you change your mind way too often.

loner
02-12-2006, 05:17 PM
And this is the man saying that Kashimashi is an enjoyable watch. If I didn't know better I wouldn't have known you are a reviewer for Anime Academy ;)

I make exceptions for Bones, especially now. And anyways, given the sheer epic and emotional attachment that this series manages to get out of people, I'd say it's heads and heels before every series created that year, even if it takes a bad turn now. Just like if Fantastic Children's ending turn out to be crap, I'd still say it's the best of 2004.

Shadowmage
02-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Just like if Fantastic Children's ending turn out to be crap, I'd still say it's the best of 2004.
Gankutsuou kind of makes that impossible... But oh well.

soundchazer
02-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Just like if Fantastic Children's ending turn out to be crap, I'd still say it's the best of 2004.

It is official, you are THE worst grader of endings ever.

Loved Traumend
Hated Mai Hime
Hated Fantastic CHildren?

What is next? Hates Speed Grapher's ending and loved Onegai Teacher's ending, right? RIGHT?!?!?

And for the Umpteenth time: Kashimashi = guilty pleasure. I never said it was great, I never said it was deep. All I said is I found it fun to watch, just like Green Green, just like I my me, Strawberry eggs or even Hanaukyo Maid Tai.

You have some of your own too, like Traumend. SO there! :P ;)

Shadowmage
02-12-2006, 05:31 PM
Hated Fantastic CHildren?
?

Loner said he liked the show. Heck, he said he would vouch for it even if its ending had sucked. (Although Gankutsuou could of taken Fantastic Children's place if the ending really were mediocre.)

loner
02-12-2006, 05:33 PM
It is official, you are THE worst grader of endings ever.

Loved Traumend
Hated Mai Hime
Hated Fantastic CHildren?

What is next? Hates Speed Grapher's ending and loved Onegai Teacher's ending, right? RIGHT?!?!?

And for the Umpteenth time: Kashimashi = guilty pleasure. I never said it was great, I never said it was deep. All I said is I found it fun to watch, just like Green Green, just like I my me, Strawberry eggs or even Hanaukyo Maid Tai.

You have some of your own too, like Traumend. SO there! :P ;)

Heh, I could go on. That makes you THE worst reader of posts ever! And one who jumps to conclusions. I loved Mai Hime, and only disapproved of its ending.

;)

soundchazer
02-12-2006, 05:37 PM
I was talking about the endings dude. ENDINGS.

*sigh*

Linuts
02-12-2006, 06:18 PM
>_<

Well one more detail. Frazer did say that the life of the King of the Wood is not a good one, since he always need to on the lookout for the challenger that will take his life. He is always in anxiety, and always lonely, guarding the tree with the golden bough. Now, is the golden bough in the show Eureka? That since Renton has "won" over Eureka, he can now challenge to be the next king?


They may not be referring to that one particular story though. The book was trying to fit all religion into the same whole.


Its thesis is that ancient religions were fertility cults that centred around the worship of, and periodic sacrifice of, a sacred king, the incarnation of a dying and reviving god, a solar deity who underwent a mystic marriage to a goddess of the earth, and who died at the harvest and who was reincarnated in the spring.


So Eureka may even be the "Goddess of the Earth". Remembering that this show doesn't take place on Earth, and it has been hinting that Eureka maybe some sort of native being from this coralian planet...

Oh yes, and thx to this show and loner I started reading "The Golden Bough" myself :p. I believe a simple google will get you the whole book online (no, not the original 12 volumes :p).

loner
02-13-2006, 12:26 AM
So that lovers' bickering between me and SC aside...

Ep. 29

Things were calming down again. Renton and Eureka tries to keep on movin' with life after the tragic events of last 2 episodes. Gekko State goes into cleaning mode and seem like a big family again.

And BOOM.

Talho drops the bomb. And we now know

What Eureka is. And how this war started too. And suddenly, a lot of stuff made sense. What this war is about. How this war got started. And why Adrock Thurston and his son is so intrigal to all this. There'll be more revelations, as to Talho's involvement (next ep?), and a bit more explanation on Eureka. But wow, huge revelation.

This series just won't let up. Things are really happening now, and revelations are coming thick and fast. So let's keep it going, Bones.

And thanks goes to Linuts, as the wonders of the interweb wins again. Time to get some reading done...You do already get a lot of references to the book though. Hope they'll keep coming to satisfy my geeky needs.

Lurker
02-13-2006, 12:45 AM
Episode 29:

Loner said it already. Although somehow it seemed to me that hte Eureka revelation was a bit clumsy. I dunno. Renton handled it just the way he should have, so we don't have to go through a few more episodes of insecurity between them.

Dominic is obviously not suited for spy work.

currywu
02-13-2006, 03:00 PM
This was a very nice cool down episode. I only wish Ray and Charles got a bit more love before the show moved on. About Talho's revelation:

If someone could humor me: who are the Coralians again? Within the context of the show.

Lurker
02-13-2006, 06:34 PM
Not really a spoiler.

Coralians are still kind of a mystery, but the only Coralians that we have seen so far have been the creatures that ARE the LFOs. An LFO is just a Coralian with the controlling armor on them (Reflection Film, I think it's called). And...

.. up until now, Coralians had been mostly non sentient and had not appeared in human form. Eureka is the first Coralian to be able to communicate with humans and it is, obviously, because of her that Adorock Thurston first conjured the idea of co-existence. This would also explain why Eureka can communicate with the Nirvarsh, since they're both the same race. But while the Nirvarsh is the first LFO (Nirvarsh typeZERO), Eureka still refers to it as a "kid". Which leads to...

...the Amita Drive. Adorock Thurston obviously believed that the Coralians could become sentient, or perhaps could have their sentience awakened. It is mentioned in episode 27 (not by the characters themselves) that Renton and Eureka beleive that their continued co-operation; the experiences they share together, is feeding into the Nirvarsh. This would explain why the Nirvarsh has been able to move on it's own at times, as it only happens during periods of high emotion between Renton and Eureka. It also explains why Holland is gung-ho to protect those two. If he's truly trying to carry on Adorock Thurston's work, then keeping those two safe is an absolute priority. But then there's the question of...

...Anemone.

currywu
02-14-2006, 01:07 AM
Coralians are still kind of a mystery, but the only Coralians that we have seen so far have been the creatures that ARE the LFOs. An LFO is just a Coralian with the controlling armor on them (Reflection Film, I think it's called).Did I totally miss an episode or was all that tacitly implied somewhere? The only Coralian I recall being mentioned up til this point was the massive swirling vortex from 10 ep. back when Renton had his mind trip. And I thought the reflection film was actually needed to ride the Trapar, thus why the Gekko-Go was stranded in that cave until the crew gathered enough for the wings. Though the idea that the LFOs are actually living beings begins to explain why they exude "blood" whenever damaged.

Tremolo
02-14-2006, 05:35 AM
Did I totally miss an episode or was all that tacitly implied somewhere? The only Coralian I recall being mentioned up til this point was the massive swirling vortex from 10 ep. back when Renton had his mind trip. And I thought the reflection film was actually needed to ride the Trapar, thus why the Gekko-Go was stranded in that cave until the crew gathered enough for the wings. Though the idea that the LFOs are actually living beings begins to explain why they exude "blood" whenever damaged.

That's exactly what I thought the Coralian was - I don't remember them ever saying the LFO's were beings encased in armour; that might be a bit too Evangelion. Again, that would explain the blood, but it's never been said as far as I can remember. So Lurker, your post is speculation, then? Or spoilers from later episodes? I'm confused. Because up to this point in the series, Coralian = swirling vortex of mind****ery.

Episode 29 was very nice - the usual compelling cooling down episode with some nice moments and character interaction. Despite the hefty revelation, I thought Moondoggie was the star of the episode,w ith his reaction to the clean bathroom absolutely hysterically funny.

ant
02-15-2006, 05:10 AM
They mention something about the archetype of the LFO being its true form.

PleaseDrinkMilk
02-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Episode 29:
Although somehow it seemed to me that the Eureka revelation was a bit clumsy.
Whew, I was hoping I wasn't the only one.
Talho's spent all this time standing to his defense, and then when he's finally achieved something emotionally after a tragedy, she cuts him down with the news-- and out of nowhere, at that. She didn't even pay him the respect of doing it in private, she put him on the spot in front of everyone and forced him to not only recognize what's been the truth all along, but also pressures him to accept it immediately after breaking the news to him. And...why, again? Seems a bit extreme of a move, even if it's to help 'carry the burden' for Holland by ending the secrecy of it all.

So, yeah, I agree with you, it felt a little forced. I happen to be going through a fiction writing class right now, so the idea that the plot of a character-driven story should be "surprising and inevitable" is fresh in my mind. Surprising? Yeah, for sure. Inevitable? Ehnotsomuch.

Don't me wrong though, the series is amazing.

loner
02-16-2006, 10:35 PM
Well, I think it's inevitable that this revelation is going to happen. Eureka is hesitating to tell Renton the truth about her, and is struggling with herself quite a bit. Holland is struggling even more, and won't open up with Renton at all. Someone has to say it, and Talho, being the one who has been jealous of Eureka throughout the series and keep urging Holland to come clean with Renton, will of course be the one who'll reveal it.

As for the timing, well, Eureka was hesitating to tell Renton this at the start of the episode, so there was a bit of a build up to this in this episode. I felt it was done pretty well, how Talho quickly drives the focus of the show back on track.

PleaseDrinkMilk
02-16-2006, 11:04 PM
Well, I think it's inevitable that this revelation is going to happen. Eureka is hesitating to tell Renton the truth about her, and is struggling with herself quite a bit. Holland is struggling even more, and won't open up with Renton at all. Someone has to say it, and Talho, being the one who has been jealous of Eureka throughout the series and keep urging Holland to come clean with Renton, will of course be the one who'll reveal it.

As for the timing, well, Eureka was hesitating to tell Renton this at the start of the episode, so there was a bit of a build up to this in this episode. I felt it was done pretty well, how Talho quickly drives the focus of the show back on track. Good points. The revelation definitely had to come about sometime, and I think you caught on it was going to be Talho well before I ever did, it was just the manner in which it happened that bothered me; seemed very uncharacteristic of her, and actually took a page from the book of Holland more than anything. (Heh, I guess that's fun symbolism, though.)

loner
02-17-2006, 12:05 AM
Well no, I thought that was rather characteristic of her. Blunt, in your face, straight-forward. That's her personality. Remember that she had been wanting to do this for quite a while, but was only restrained because she thought Holland would be the better person to tell them. But now she finally realizes this can't go on any more (considering the budding relationship of Eureka and Renton). Anyways, Talho has never been known for being a nice, kind-mannered person, but she didn't punch the lights out of Renton either. However, i think that meanness that you might have felt was more directed towards Eureka. She is also acting as a representative for Holland and doing what he should do, so yeah, like you said, maybe she does take a bit of his persona.

Lurker
02-17-2006, 01:41 AM
I think for me it had more to do with the actual way that the episode was progressing, including the scene and the music and everything. It felt more like one of those scenes where lots of girls are cuddling up to this guy and one pissed off chick announces publicly that he's got AIDS. You could almost hear the cliche' record scratch as the needle was lifted off the party music. To me, it felt like it was such a gear shift that it didn't quite fit. Couple that to the choice of background music during the revelation and the whole scene just didn't work.

I think it was the background music that really did it: overdramatic sounding orchaestraic piece. I think the scene would have been served better with no background music at all, much like they've done throughout the series thus far. Appropriate music is sometimes no music at all. I dunno, I just think this was the first "bad" choice the director has done so far in the series and it stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

currywu
02-22-2006, 07:35 PM
Ep 30:

Lots of background info revealed about the discovery of typeZERO and Eureka, following exactly what Lurker divined, except I still don't know where he picked up all that from. Unless he watches raws?
Hate to bring up a certain mecha series whose influence never seems die but the explanation of what exactly the Nirvarsh is and how it's piloted is a little to redundant for comfort. I thought Bones got all that out of their system with Rah. Another tie-in: Sonia, the blonde scientist chick shares the same seiyuu as...guess who, Ritsuko. Coincidence?

Talho lost quite a bit of hotness. And Eureka desperately needs to grow out her hair.

Linuts
02-22-2006, 10:14 PM
Ep 30:

Lots of background info revealed about the discovery of typeZERO and Eureka, following exactly what Lurker divined, except I still don't know where he picked up all that from. Unless he watches raws?



Or something called 4channel.

Hmmm, another interesting episode of revelations. I'm glad we finally got some good background on the LFOs. A lot of change is coming...

Speaking of change...

Talho! NOOOOOOOOOO!

Lurker
02-23-2006, 12:26 AM
Or something called 4channel.

What? 4channel? Never heard of it. What kind of silly talk are you speaking here? Ha ha ha ha .. ha... ha....

Unreleated question:

How do I shot web?

Talho! NOOOOOOOOOO!

Actually I kind of like it. Less fanservice, more 70s disco suits. I was going into withdrawls after Ray died.

soundchazer
02-23-2006, 12:30 AM
I don't mind the suit that much, but the haircut just blows. :)

currywu
02-23-2006, 06:32 AM
Not everyone frequents that shithole full of hentai of characters who should never be hentai-ed. Seriously, if you're going to post 4chan spoilers, next time mark it as such.

Lurker
02-23-2006, 01:00 PM
I never did. What I posted was what I had gathered from comments made in previous episodes. There weren't any spoilers.

Except for something in Fate/Stay Night and Mai-OTOME, I usually don't let 4chan spoiler me on anything. But that also means I know where to find them, so if you want me to start posting 4chan'd spoilers, I will.

currywu
02-23-2006, 02:11 PM
My apologies to Lurker. I'm a little bitchy from three exams in one week and was too quick to accuse. If you got all that on your own, you're a helluva lot sharper than I am. Either way I'm not going to push the issue any further.
*We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.*

Lurker
02-23-2006, 07:36 PM
Well it would be easy to do and find spoilers. The groups that we're getting the fansubs from are slow. Eureka 7 is like 12 or 13 episodes beyond what we've seen already.

Frog
02-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Well it would be easy to do and find spoilers. The groups that we're getting the fansubs from are slow. Eureka 7 is like 12 or 13 episodes beyond what we've seen already.
One should not be complaining about the speed of a fansub first off. Secondly one should not be complaining about the speed of a fansub when its already licensed and is being released soon.

PleaseDrinkMilk
02-26-2006, 09:40 PM
Sorry to bump, had to wait until I got a chance to watch the last episode (30) before posting.

I really liked this episode. The backstory was great, and I'm a sucker for visual changes in characters. Did I read wrong when it said Holland didn't get along with that guy (from what I gathered, 'that guy' being the head engineer dude)? I was waiting for some kind of conflict. I guess that the 10 days of construction means there's plenty of time for that sort of thing, though.
^Concerns episode 30, not 31.

loner
03-12-2006, 02:30 AM
Ep. 31

Well shit, that was frightening. The shit is really, really hitting the fan now. Right now is the time that I really wish the episodes can come out faster. I realize that I have no right to complain, but damn, I can't wait for 2 weeks to see the next episode.

So yeah, Coralians.

Jesus ****ing Christ, they are some scary things.

Dewey. He scares me even more. Him and his group of girls. I never knew there are crazier chicks than Anemone, but those girls are messed up.

I never knew Gekko Go can fit so many people.

It sure sucks to be Mischa, stuck married to that dude. She must have married him for his brain.



Many people may know this already, but here are some fun E7 facts hijacked from Wikipedia:

# Jobs and Woz are the nicknames of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, co-fonders of Apple Computer.
# Stoner's hat, haircut and face make him resemble Argentine revolutionary Che Guevara.
# Maurice, Maeter, and Linck's names come from the Belgian poet, playwright, and essayist Maurice Maeterlinck.
# Gidget is the name of the protagonist of a series of movies named after her from the late 1950s and early 1960s. Moondoggie is the name of Gidget's boyfriend in these movies.
# Charles and Ray are named after Charles Eames and Ray Eames, two married designers.
# In episode 20 Holland performs a rescue mission in a prison named "Dabu Ghraib", certainly a reference to the infamous incident of the Iraquian prison of Abu Ghraib.

ant
03-13-2006, 09:20 AM
The Coralians weren't as scary as Dewey between the sage's legs YUCK. The Coralians carry some serious firepower should make for an interesting fight. Well another two weeks, lets see if Renton can get a kiss already!

Linuts
03-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Ep 31

Damn the Coralians are scary. But what's even worse is Dewey and his little girls. I guess age doesn't matter to him, as he will even walk between the legs of a fossil like that sage :p.

Ep 32

Dewey and the Kids are still scary. So is Anemone, but this ep felt a bit rushed near the end. It was cool seeing Nirvash turning into a jet plane and do some new stunts with its new board... But I think the overall episode could've been better...

Arg, still have 26,27, & 28 in my head.

PleaseDrinkMilk
03-25-2006, 10:07 PM
Ep. 32 thoughts:
Actually, I thought the coralians were ridiculous, coming in their wide variety of colors. Crazy power, though.

I'm not entirely against where the story is going, but I'm not as excited as I was before the storyline turned in this direction. But dang, we still have plenty of episodes to go.

ant
03-27-2006, 02:42 AM
I would have liked a better fight between the Nirvash and Anemone's maybe Dewey will pilot one and provide a good fight scene.

Tremolo
03-27-2006, 10:52 AM
According to ANN, Adult Swim's got it.


Goddamnit.

Shadowmage
03-27-2006, 05:47 PM
According to ANN, Adult Swim's got it.


Goddamnit.
Eureka 7 deserves to get such attention. Actually I'm glad Cartoon Network has this. Maybe this will create higher demand for great anime.

*Having been deprived of his Eureka Seven fix for the past four months, Shadowmage has no right to say this.

soundchazer
04-06-2006, 11:42 PM
Episode 34

PREGO!!! ZOMG!

loner
04-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Ep. 34

That's one hardcore monk/priest. Coralians just get more and more interesting. And there seems to be dissesions among the Sages, as the green lipstick hag plans to please her lover (damn Dewey's got some willpower).

Hope Dewey won't turn into some random megalomaniac. I love his absolute coolness.

A-R@D
04-12-2006, 12:44 AM
Hope Dewey won't turn into some random megalomaniac. I love his absolute coolness.
I also enjoy a villian who thinks he/she is doing right over the the villian who does evil deeds just for the reason of doing evil deeds or does for some mundane profit.

Frog
04-14-2006, 08:41 AM
Wow just an amazing episode, and rife with revalations.

Its becoming more and more aparent to me that Eureka 7 will go down as Bones greatest achievement. It may not have the large popularity yet to rival FMA, but it has a heart largest heart.

One other observation for me; Bones is domination of new millenium reminds me of Gainax's domination of the 90's.

Ghostmaster
04-14-2006, 12:18 PM
I think i'll check this show out now thats its coming out on adult swim ill see what its like. I don't tend to love mech shows, but who knows.

Hinata Hyuga
04-14-2006, 02:38 PM
yes i think i will watch it too becasue it is coming on adult swim ^_^ cant wait!!:dninja: :samurai:

Tremolo
04-14-2006, 02:44 PM
And lo Trem's beloved Eureka Seven fandom would soon be invaded by Inuyasha fanatics, 15 year old girls and people with nothing better to do than watch cartoons at midnight on a Saturday night, and he was sad. Trem looked on the bright side and pondered that maybe this new exposure would bring in some cool new fans, but he was unsure and asked God for answers.

But God was busy and she would not respond to his trivial prayers.

And thus Trem realised that he was a moaning elitist prick with nothing better to do than bitch on an anime board in faux-biblical speak and he was sad. And Trem realised that he was four episodes behind for no real reason, and was...sad.

loner
04-14-2006, 10:00 PM
My poor dear little Brit-f00. Enough self-torturing. New episode is out. Go watch :)

ant
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Episode 35 is out and an interesting little twist about Dewey, Holland and Talho's past. I am still waiting to see how Renton's sister fits into all this, she will probably show up within the final episodes and learn why Holland is POed with her.

JPaikman
04-27-2006, 01:39 PM
Eureka Seven makes Yahoo's front page!!

buzz dot yahoo dot com/buzz_log/?fr=fp-buzz-more