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EZ_D!NG0
11-10-2003, 05:21 AM
hey guys i've just finished 175chapters of naruto. it was great. i'm just lookin to find out if i'm the only one that has read it(of course not!) gimme some feedback on what you know/think about naruto. ANYTHING-and maybe some sites where i can get my hands on some more chapters, cause it kinda ended in a to be conti...you know how that feels!
Maveric
11-10-2003, 09:45 AM
I've read 192 chapters of the manga. Beieve me, it just gets better after that fight, and there should be another MAJOR fight coming up in about 10 chapters.
BUT, we are forbidden from discussing where to get licensed material, so you're outta luck bud.
EZ_D!NG0
11-13-2003, 03:24 AM
it's ok, i just got another 15 chapters, so now i'm on 190. chouji just beat the crap out of one of the sound nins, they're chasing sasuke...and the rest is still a mystery.
gonna try and get the rest, but who knows...:rolleyes:
for interest sake, what's this about knowing, and alowing someone to know..?
geoffropuff
11-13-2003, 02:42 PM
EZ...........
make some spoiler tags bro. i'm glad i already read that chapter of naruto, or i'd be pissed.
EZ_D!NG0
11-18-2003, 06:05 AM
oops! i didn't notice...feel like a kwagga! to all of those that i did surprise...SORRY!
anyway, i'm still looking for contacts for tha manga as well as the anime. i finished the game and it was a bit too short for my liking.
rvx3452000
11-18-2003, 11:24 AM
How do you guys get all these chaps? I'm only on vol 1, waiting for 2 to come out.
Corpse
11-18-2003, 01:38 PM
through the power of love
Djudge86
11-18-2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
How do you guys get all these chaps? I'm only on vol 1, waiting for 2 to come out.
Obviously the notorious scanslation underground is at work here...
Originally posted by Corpse
through the power of love
That works too. That and vendors of both the original Japanese version of the manga and Weekly Shonen Jump.
LordOdin
11-19-2003, 03:06 AM
well i just go buy my manga and its not that far yet... not anywhere near even.... i rather wait and read though... reading through scans isnt that fun anyway
Kenny McCormick
11-20-2003, 05:34 AM
Personally i find the character's strength is starting to get out of hand...
Its like the young ninjas are starting to learn all those skill that is suppose to be the best from their masters... So in the near future, they'll probably all grow out of hand...like the later parts of DBZ...
after saying all these, i do think that the anime ver is better den the manga. It provide better pictures at least....
tokibunni
11-28-2003, 01:03 AM
i really wish people would remember to put up spoiler tags.
but going on, im on 180 (thx for spoiling the story EZ let me kno when i can return the favor -.-;)
naruto has got to be one of the best .. and oddly enough (even tho my bro argues that it's not as much fun to watch it animated bc u kno what's going to happen) it doesn't detract from any anticipation i might have for watching it animated.
rvx3452000
11-28-2003, 05:29 PM
If I like the manga, I can't wait to see the anime, mainly to compare art and story. Also, to see what they changed. I hope Naruto is like that.
I've read 195 chapters of the Naruto Manga and it's been really good.. the past 90 chapters have really changed the series. I can't wait for Naruto episodes 61+ 'cause I find this part of the story to be excellent.
IMO, I just really like anime better than manga. This is one of the first manga's that really interested me this much.
Pocky
12-02-2003, 09:35 PM
bleh lately the anime is losing my interest more and more... Maybe because of the unwanted filler thats been added in from the mangas original storyline. Although it does provide a laugh or two i would much rather read the manga which pretty much gets strait to the point.
TasukiGODofFIRE
12-03-2003, 03:59 PM
I know what u mean your just thinking a new ep just cfame out finally something cool will happen which is the problem with 1 ep a week. I wouldn't mind it as much if I had 10 more after that but I want something good to happen. But I think this weeks will be awesome as last weeks was decent but just building up.
rvx3452000
12-29-2003, 07:41 PM
I just got done reading like 73 chaps. They're soo tight!!! I hope it gets better, and now 199 chaps are out. I feel so left behind...
Playful Athena
12-30-2003, 12:29 PM
I've only read the first two graphic novels and already luv this series:) . The only prob. is that I want the third and don't know when it comes out:( .
rvx3452000
01-02-2004, 08:13 AM
Man, 160 chaps and countin!!! You won't believe some of the things that go on and happen!!! I gotta say!!!
The third Hokage dies to Orochimaru, but the third casts a jutsu on him so orochimaru can't use jutsu anymore
And that's just only one thing that happens!! Jeez, now I see why naruto is so long.
flict0nic
01-02-2004, 02:06 PM
what chapter of the manga is the naruto series up to now?
rvx3452000
01-02-2004, 07:49 PM
Legally, like vol2, but if you mean manga scans 199. Sorry, can't tell you where to get them here though. In Japan though, like 40+ volumes, I'm guessing like 300+ chaps. I hope this answers your question.
flict0nic
01-02-2004, 08:08 PM
um you didnt exactly answer it. To clarify, Im on episode 64 in the anime series and i just cant wait for the next episodes to come out so I was hoping to read the manga so I was just wondering what manga chapter corresponds approximately with episode 65. Sorry, in my previous post when I said series I meant anime series...just spaced out when I was typing my bad.
rvx3452000
01-02-2004, 08:12 PM
Oh, okay. Then I don't know. I havent seen the anime, I'm just gonna wait for it's american debut[unless it lands on cable, then I'm screwed].
Djudge86
01-02-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
what chapter of the manga is the naruto series up to now?
Originally posted by rvx3452000
Legally, like vol2, but if you mean manga scans 199. Sorry, can't tell you where to get them here though. In Japan though, like 40+ volumes, I'm guessing like 300+ chaps. I hope this answers your question.
Sorry, last part there is a bit inaccurate. Right now Kishimoto is working on chapter 200 and that would only be the second chapter in the 23rd volume of the four year-old manga.
rvx3452000
01-03-2004, 06:46 AM
Oh, I thought that the scans where behind, and it said in Shounen Jump website that it's 40+ volumes. So, I just estimated.
Chichiri Sama
01-03-2004, 12:13 PM
*******. I really ****ing hate it when people don't mark spoilers for something like this.
rvx3452000
01-03-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Chichiri Sama
*******. I really ****ing hate it when people don't mark spoilers for something like this.
Like what? Sayng how many vols there are?
Nosferatu
01-04-2004, 05:53 PM
I am losing interest in the story, but i will still read as far as i can get. It is becoming like most other fighting animes. Tournaments, fight some evil guy, have one guy fight against another, and other things.
I enjoy the whole ninja aspect to it, but with the introduction of the "kamehameha" that naruto was taught. I am wondering about its uniqueness.
So chapter 200 has come out. I will have to check my supplier.
To those who want to find them I wont say anything, except that you can find them if you want and try to look.
Demonshadow9
01-05-2004, 04:43 PM
Naruto is good but my favorite by far is One piece .Luffy>>all
Nosferatu
01-05-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Does anyone have actually now if
SPOILERS
neji dies
ENDSPOILERS
I hope not he's my second favorite behind kakashi
Three things:
1) Dont double post, used edit in the bottom left.
2) know is spelled with a k
3) It is as likely as him living as it is for other fighters of different animes. Look at how few heroes die, other than obvious sacrifice like the hokage. So in answer to your question, in my opinion, is that he is alive.
Demonshadow9
01-05-2004, 06:00 PM
Sorry about the spelling.English is not my strengh.Anyway i hope it doesnt follow the pattern that there using now.somebody fights, it looks like they die but it doesnt say so and then they go on to the next person.
rvx3452000
01-07-2004, 05:38 PM
I'm now on 171, and I can see its getting there. Like before, the fights were tight, and it was like multiple enimes and stuff, but they say something like:
Tsunade:This is gonna be a grusome battle. Punches Orochimaru. Him and Kabuto retreat
And, the art quality is going down as well. Before, his poses were nice, like he was hungry. But now, he's no longer hungry, and is getting sloppy in story and in art.
Amatsu777
01-13-2004, 10:00 AM
i love naruto the anime and manga. i keep trying to save to buy a box set but i keep spending it. my favorite character is sasuke. he rock hard.
Demonshadow9
01-13-2004, 10:13 AM
You actually like sasuke?!God i hate him.Most badasses actually win their fights.But at least he's important to the story.The girl
thats always with them( i forgot her name) is useless and not beacuse of her abiltiys or style its that she just stands there and go yay sasuke!! boo naruto .She does nothing else!I hope she gets more time or else she will just stay a static side character.
rvx3452000
01-13-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
You actually like sasuke?!God i hate him.Most badasses actually win their fights.But at least he's important to the story.The girl
thats always with them( i forgot her name) is useless and not beacuse of her abiltiys or style its that she just stands there and go yay sasuke!! boo naruto .She does nothing else!I hope she gets more time or else she will just stay a static side character.
It might not seem she's doing anything, but once like chap 170+ comes around, she plays a huge role with Sasuke. But then she just goes back as the sidekick.
Man, I really wanna see the anime bad. You just don't know!!!
Kurorakuda
01-14-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
You actually like sasuke?!God i hate him.Most badasses actually win their fights.But at least he's important to the story.The girl
thats always with them( i forgot her name) is useless and not beacuse of her abiltiys or style its that she just stands there and go yay sasuke!! boo naruto .She does nothing else!I hope she gets more time or else she will just stay a static side character.
If you think about it, one of the only ways Naruto and Sasuke get along is because of Sakura. Without her, I doubt they would get along as well.
Roshi911
01-15-2004, 10:45 AM
ive only read a little bit of it so far, but as i read naruto, it keeps getting better and better... i have confidence that i will continue to amaze me
ninja velmor
01-16-2004, 11:44 AM
so far i have read the first 2 vols. of the manga, and i have seen a few eps. i really like the anime alot, and the manga, ever chapter gets better and better improving over the last chapter. it's already my fav manga.
TasukiGODofFIRE
01-17-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Nosferatu
Three things:
1) Dont double post, used edit in the bottom left.
2) know is spelled with a k
3) It is as likely as him living as it is for other fighters of different animes. Look at how few heroes die, other than obvious sacrifice like the hokage. So in answer to your question, in my opinion, is that he is alive. Yea, thats my reason too plus he is such a good character I don't think they would just throw him away and I hope they don't same for the other guy who will remain nameless to avoid spoilers. And to answer the other guys question about the anime/ manga I think the anime is at chapter 114.
flict0nic
01-17-2004, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
It might not seem she's doing anything, but once like chap 170+ comes around, she plays a huge role with Sasuke. But then she just goes back as the sidekick.
Man, I really wanna see the anime bad. You just don't know!!!
*SPOILERS*
Are you talking about Sakura or the legendary girl cause I dont remember Sakura doing anything besides yelling Sasuke-kun in a concerned voice since the Chuunin exam. This is sort of off topic but Itachi is the man, even Orochimaru is afriad of him. Would you guys consider Itachi to be the most powerful ninja in the series?
*SPOILERS*
(okay there really wasn't any spoilers but I put the tag up just to be safe)
And by the way, as good as the manga is, the anime is even better. I would highly recomend watching it.
Skyro
01-20-2004, 12:10 AM
I'm wathcing both the anime and the manga, but I seem to like the manga better, better art and less filler.
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Does anyone else feel a time jump coming up soon? I'm thinking Naruto can't bring Sasuke back and they both become missing-nins and this is where the time jump occurs. I'm thinking this because if Naruto does bring Sasuke back the story will lose direction and become stale.
Sashin
01-20-2004, 06:09 AM
Read up to 200...
No hokake yet^^;;
Djudge86
01-20-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Skyro
I'm thinking this because if Naruto does bring Sasuke back the story will lose direction and become stale.
I don't know about that. Kishimoto still has a LOT of plot elements that he could still go over that may or may not have direct bearing on the current plot focus in the manga. For example, no matter how the situation with the Sound and Leaf play out right now there is still the matter of Itachi and the rest of Akatsuki and that whole matter with the Kyuubi inside of Naruto. If that doesn't take priority, then maybe a focus towards Kakashi's (seeing as he's been absent from the more recent manga installments) past and his days as an ANBU captain/origin of his Sharingan would happen. There's still a lot of material the mangaka can tackle. Let's just hope that he can pick up the pace and digress away from those lengthy one-on-one fights.
(Here's to chapter 201 and Kimimaro's stylish debut into the melee!)
flict0nic
01-24-2004, 07:43 PM
how many chapters do they plan on creating?
Hamelin
01-25-2004, 07:43 PM
Naruto ain't becoming Hokage for a long time. But he getting a better chance of becoming one. (finished chapter 201 recently so... ya know :))
rvx3452000
01-26-2004, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by flict0nic
*SPOILERS*
Are you talking about Sakura or the legendary girl cause I dont remember Sakura doing anything besides yelling Sasuke-kun in a concerned voice since the Chuunin exam. This is sort of off topic but Itachi is the man, even Orochimaru is afriad of him. Would you guys consider Itachi to be the most powerful ninja in the series?
*SPOILERS*
(okay there really wasn't any spoilers but I put the tag up just to be safe)
And by the way, as good as the manga is, the anime is even better. I would highly recomend watching it.
Since we're discussing spoilers...
Well, when Sasuke goes to Orochimarus henchmen to seek knowlegde on how to control his Curse seal, Sakura tries desperatly to hold him back, but that's about it.
Now that I think, Sakura only really fought once[against Ino] and Naruto is still a Genin. But I stopped reading around 181 because it was getting way too DBZ for me[Curse Seal lvl2?] And constant 1-on-1 power-up battles?
Will it get better, or what?
flict0nic
01-26-2004, 10:49 PM
You have a point. I'm still reading and enjoying it but now that I think about it, Naruto is definately starting to get worse and probably the only reason I'm still reading/watching is because it was so awsome in the begining, I was and still am hooked.
Skyro
01-26-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
You have a point. I'm still reading and enjoying it but now that I think about it, Naruto is definately starting to get worse and probably the only reason I'm still reading/watching is because it was so awsome in the begining, I was and still am hooked.
I feel the same way. I have always thought the first Naruto arc (wave country/Zabuza arc) was the best in the entire series in both the anime and manga. And it is starting to get a tad repetitive and predictable.
Still, I don't think it is terrible, I still enjoy it although not as much as I used to. And besides, with only 1 chapter a week that is only like 5 mins of reading a week to keep up with the story.
rvx3452000
01-27-2004, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Skyro
I feel the same way. I have always thought the first Naruto arc (wave country/Zabuza arc) was the best in the entire series in both the anime and manga. And it is starting to get a tad repetitive and predictable.
Still, I don't think it is terrible, I still enjoy it although not as much as I used to. And besides, with only 1 chapter a week that is only like 5 mins of reading a week to keep up with the story.
Yes! Zabuza was the best part of Naruto, an enemy with background and purpose. And Haku. But now, It's just Orochimaru changing bodies and sending his henchmen after Sasuke. But it's gotton better, cause Naruto about to fight that guy with the concious body[cant remember his name] but maybe he'll bring back the charm with a little bit of enemy history.
Djudge86
01-28-2004, 06:03 PM
You speak of Kimimaro, a character whose introduction into the series greatly lowered my opinion of Kishimoto's abilities as a storyteller. The basically "out of the blue" introduction that this immensely powerful (definitely above Jounin/ANBU level) character is treated to is a huge disappointment since it seems that he was created only for this moment in the story. Now with Naruto seemingly able to exert greater control of the Kyuubi powers (without sufficient explanation; the thing is supposed to be sealed for pity's sake!), it seems that the manga has degraded into something that I really wished it hadn't: a pure fighter title that closely resembles shounen manga of similar fare.
flict0nic
01-28-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Djudge86
You speak of Kimimaro, a character whose introduction into the series greatly lowered my opinion of Kishimoto's abilities as a storyteller. The basically "out of the blue" introduction that this immensely powerful (definitely above Jounin/ANBU level) character is treated to is a huge disappointment since it seems that he was created only for this moment in the story. Now with Naruto seemingly able to exert greater control of the Kyuubi powers (without sufficient explanation; the thing is supposed to be sealed for pity's sake!), it seems that the manga has degraded into something that I really wished it hadn't: a pure fighter title that closely resembles shounen manga of similar fare.
yea you're right, it is getting a little bit ridiculous as to how much Naruto and all the other characters for that matter are growing
*SPOILER*
I mean come on Chouji beating that Jounin guy who is not just a jounin but also has the special seal, I mean come on, he didnt even get to the final round of the Chuuin selection exam after he lost to the sound guy who Sasuke owned in the forest. Naruto's originality is definately starting to wear of as it becomes just random boss fights and the kids become incredably strong for no reason. Oh well, the fights themselves are still cool and in my opinion the series still has its charm.
Skyro
01-28-2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
yea you're right, it is getting a little bit ridiculous as to how much Naruto and all the other characters for that matter are growing
*SPOILER*
I mean come on Chouji beating that Jounin guy who is not just a jounin but also has the special seal, I mean come on, he didnt even get to the final round of the Chuuin selection exam after he lost to the sound guy who Sasuke owned in the forest. Naruto's originality is definately starting to wear of as it becomes just random boss fights and the kids become incredably strong for no reason. Oh well, the fights themselves are still cool and in my opinion the series still has its charm.
*MORE SPOILERS*
I don't think those guys were Jounin level. I mean they had to use their lvl 2 seals and it was 4 on 2 and they barely beat those leaf jounins. But I agree that Chouji got pretty strong pretty fast, with some out-of-the-blue "super-saiyan" pills as the explaination.
Does anyone smell a time jump ala Dragonball Z here? I mean, IMO it would add a lot more of the freshness and originality that the series once had.
flict0nic
01-28-2004, 09:15 PM
Yea I agree with you.
On another note, it's a little off subject but did anyone watch the "pilot manga chapter"? It's like 40 pages long and doesn't deal with anything in the story but I thought it was sort of cool to read,
*SPOILERS*
it was about Naruto was sent on a mission by Hokage to find a friend but in here Naruto didn't just have the demon fox sealed inside of him but was actually the son of the demon fox who the 3rd couldn't bring himself to kill.
*END SPOILERS*
I just thought it was interesting how the manga evolved into what it is now. What was also funny was that there actually were guns in this.
Skyro
01-29-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by flict0nic
Yea I agree with you.
On another note, it's a little off subject but did anyone watch the "pilot manga chapter"? It's like 40 pages long and doesn't deal with anything in the story but I thought it was sort of cool to read,
*SPOILERS*
it was about Naruto was sent on a mission by Hokage to find a friend but in here Naruto didn't just have the demon fox sealed inside of him but was actually the son of the demon fox who the 3rd couldn't bring himself to kill.
*END SPOILERS*
I just thought it was interesting how the manga evolved into what it is now. What was also funny was that there actually were guns in this.
Hm... I "heard" about the pilot chapter with Naruto being the son of the demon fox, but I didn't actually read it. How did you get your hands on it? Maybe send me a pm?
rvx3452000
01-29-2004, 04:29 AM
Me too.
Anyway, DBZ was like Naruto when it first came out. All fresh, new, funny, innovative, exciting, charming. But it was meant to end after the Frieza Saga[seeing as how he was the Lord of the Universe and all]but DBZ fans wanted fights, so Akira Toriyama gave that to them.
Basically, I think thats whats happening to Naruto. I mean, Kimiro could've came out earlier in the seris, making Naruto have 1 more adversary to beat. Next, Kishimoto could've sped this story up like 50 chaps ago. I mean, when...
Spoiler********
Sasuke fought Itachi, have Sasuke win and get it over with instead of having itachi run away afte beating him.
No.2 is that Naruto should've awakened his Demon Fox powers
by now if he can master the Rasengan.
/Spoiler*******
So, IMO, the fights are okay instead of WOW now. I mean, he soes that same 2-pg spead for every critical move now. It was tight at first, but like 2 times every chap, c'mon now.
I'm not bashing naruto, just voicing[or typeing]what I've been thinking. It seems as though the only reason I still read Naruto is that I want to see it get better.
I wasnt diappointed when...
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Neji fought that spider guy[cant remember his name...]and now has two big gaping holes in his body.
/SPOILER---
Now, why didn't he die? Why didnt Sasuke die when Haku shot him in his fatal points? Why isnt Chouji dead after taking that red pill that "If I take it I will surely DIE!!" side effect? I wasnt disappointed in the fights, just that they can walk away like that after making a big fuss saying "If I use this/that/technique/etc I'll Die!!!".
So I hope Naruto gets better.
Skyro
01-29-2004, 04:47 PM
Well we don't know that they didn't die, but I hope they do because that will at least furthur the plot. It's like I've been saying Neji's story has already been told there is not much else left for him if he survives.
P.S. Thx for the link flict0nic.
rvx3452000
01-29-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Skyro
Well we don't know that they didn't die, but I hope they do because that will at least furthur the plot. It's like I've been saying Neji's story has already been told there is not much else left for him if he survives.
P.S. Thx for the link flict0nic.
True. It would make Naruto want to be more strong to honor him or something.
I want the link!!! Send me a pm too!!!
TasukiGODofFIRE
01-29-2004, 09:14 PM
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I don't know it seems to me if they kill neji and choji their gonna have to get rid of the other 2 for cohesion . You know how they all end up somehow managing to get separated and fighting 1 on 1 battles the first 2 having similar outcomes. And am I the only 1 who noticed shikomaru always fights girls look who his next opponent will probably be.
Skyro
01-30-2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by TasukiGODofFIRE
:::::SPOILERS":::::
I don't know it seems to me if they kill neji and choji their gonna have to get rid of the other 2 for cohesion . You know how they all end up somehow managing to get separated and fighting 1 on 1 battles the first 2 having similar outcomes. And am I the only 1 who noticed shikomaru always fights girls look who his next opponent will probably be.
Yeah the whole Shika fighting girls thing is just one of the little gag/theme things that Kishimoto has running. That's how lots of people predicted that in the 1on1 pairings Shika was going to fight Tayuya.
rvx3452000
01-31-2004, 10:58 AM
Well, I'm not as smart as you guys. I knew Shika was gonna fight Tayuya because Naruto always goes after the big fish, in this case Kimiro.
BTW, just got done reading the 3 pg special and Chap 202. The Special is funny, and gives back some of the charm Naruto had in the begining, plus bringing back that art style I fell in love with.
Djudge86
02-01-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Skyro
I don't think those guys were Jounin level. I mean they had to use their lvl 2 seals and it was 4 on 2 and they barely beat those leaf jounins. But I agree that Chouji got pretty strong pretty fast, with some out-of-the-blue "super-saiyan" pills as the explaination
Hmm, not to be to picky or anything, but I'm fairly sure that those four Sound nins didn't use their level 2 curse seals in that particular fight. Curse seals that wrapped around their whole body, but don't change physical appearance are more of an advanced form of the level one variety. If the text says otherwise, then I stand corrected. As for barely beating them? I don't know about that. The Sound were just catching their breath while those two Leaf jounin got their asses handed to 'em (with kunai's stickin out of their bodies, bloody wounds, and what-not).
rvx3452000
02-02-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Djudge86
Hmm, not to be to picky or anything, but I'm fairly sure that those four Sound nins didn't use their level 2 curse seals in that particular fight. Curse seals that wrapped around their whole body, but don't change physical appearance are more of an advanced form of the level one variety. If the text says otherwise, then I stand corrected. As for barely beating them? I don't know about that. The Sound were just catching their breath while those two Leaf jounin got their asses handed to 'em (with kunai's stickin out of their bodies, bloody wounds, and what-not).
But several times they said "Gotta go to lv 2" and they changed. I don't have the file to show you, but I remember that spider guy, Kimikmaru right? He said he needed to goto lv 2 to beat Neji and they did cover his body and I guess it transformed him.
Skyro
02-02-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Djudge86
Hmm, not to be to picky or anything, but I'm fairly sure that those four Sound nins didn't use their level 2 curse seals in that particular fight. Curse seals that wrapped around their whole body, but don't change physical appearance are more of an advanced form of the level one variety. If the text says otherwise, then I stand corrected. As for barely beating them? I don't know about that. The Sound were just catching their breath while those two Leaf jounin got their asses handed to 'em (with kunai's stickin out of their bodies, bloody wounds, and what-not).
Chapter 186, first page after cover page, 3rd panel, Tayuya says "We lose too much strength when we fight at curse level 2." Then, on panel 5 of the same page, Kidoumaru says "There wasn't any other way against two jounins... If we tried to conserve energy we may have been defeated."
So that clears that up.
I said barely defeated because it was implied. They had to use their level 2 curses AND it was 4 of them vs 2 of the jounins, so it stands to reason that they aren't on the jounin level. Also from what Kidoumaru said. Otherwise they wouldn't need to use their curse level 2 seal, or any level seal at all, and would be able to defeat them easily if it was 4 on 2. And even then, 4 on 2, with curse level 2 seals, the sound *still* could not finish the job to kill the jounins. I guess you could reason that it was because they were low on time from their mission and incapcitating them was enough, but it still implies their level of power.
Djudge86
02-03-2004, 12:21 PM
Well then, I guess I'll concede to you in light of that evidence. I always did find it fishy as to why mere Genin (w/ Chuunin level fighting skills) could take down some of Orochimaru's best subordinates.
Originally posted by rvx3452000
but I remember that spider guy, Kimikmaru right?
That would be Kidoumaru. Kimimaro is the guy that was supposed to be Orochimaru's replacement body before Sasuke was discovered. He is currently poised to kick the crap out of Naruto in this week's upcoming manga installment.
rvx3452000
02-03-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Djudge86
Well then, I guess I'll concede to you in light of that evidence. I always did find it fishy as to why mere Genin (w/ Chuunin level fighting skills) could take down some of Orochimaru's best subordinates.
That would be Kidoumaru. Kimimaro is the guy that was supposed to be Orochimaru's replacement body before Sasuke was discovered. He is currently poised to kick the crap out of Naruto in this week's upcoming manga installment.
Yea, how could genins beat these guys? I mean, they had curse seals, extensive knowlegde of jutsus, and Sasuke couldn't beat them even with HIS curse seal. So what's up with that?
And wasn't naruto supposed to fight Kimimaro in chap 202? I believe that's what the text in the first page said. He'll prob delay
the fight again.
hitokiri_himura
02-04-2004, 04:23 AM
Naruto is a great anime.It has the elements of a good adventure and friendship story.Plus, there are myriads of techniques available. My fav character are Naruto, Sasuke,& Rock Lee. ;)
Djudge86
02-04-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
Yea, how could genins beat these guys? I mean, they had curse seals, extensive knowlegde of jutsus, and Sasuke couldn't beat them even with HIS curse seal. So what's up with that?
All the more reason why I'm saying that Kishimoto is running on fumes right now (or rather was running on 'em several months ago in the plot writing phase for the current chapters). He's gonna have to pull off something quite profound in the next volume or two if he wants to keep me reading.
LegendaryWeasel
02-05-2004, 12:03 AM
sasuke isnt the strongest character. naruto is stronger then him, and neji is a genius supposibly to a prodigy, shikumaru is a genius, and the only one i cant figure out is chouji. Otherwise it resonable that the team can win.
rvx3452000
02-05-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Djudge86
All the more reason why I'm saying that Kishimoto is running on fumes right now (or rather was running on 'em several months ago in the plot writing phase for the current chapters). He's gonna have to pull off something quite profound in the next volume or two if he wants to keep me reading.
I've been telling ppl this, but their like "Naruto isn't getting dumb"
I see another DBZ comin soon.
Another thing, I think Kishimoto is being infuelenced by the popularity of it all. I think that he thinks the ppl like the battles, and now thats what he's giving them. Shame though,
Naruto could've been so much more.
Djudge86
02-05-2004, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by rvx 3452000
Another thing, I think Kishimoto is being infuelenced by the popularity of it all. I think that he thinks the ppl like the battles, and now thats what he's giving them.
Another good point there. Seeing as how Kishimoto and company wrote the basic outlines for these chapters weeks to months ago, one could conclude that this has been the case for some time now. If you're waiting for Naruto to break out of this endless spiral of fight-fight-fight-blah-fight, then I suggest that you take a look at stronger shounen manga titles that are also currently running in Japan (Hagane no Renkinjyutsushi, or Full Metal Alchemist, comes highly recommended).
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-06-2004, 09:49 AM
yea the anime really deosn't hold my interest as much anymore, I still look forward to the manga alot. The anime keeps adding in these useless scenes to take up time and fit the eps into the time arc.
rvx3452000
02-07-2004, 09:29 PM
anyone read 203? whats your thoughts on that chapter?
flict0nic
02-08-2004, 03:51 PM
I thought it was alright but there are 3 fights going on at the same time which is kind of annoying cause I would just rather focus in on one at a time but it just jumps from fight to fight and knowing Naruto, its going to take like 10-20 for all three to be resolved.
rvx3452000
02-08-2004, 05:29 PM
Same here. I really wanted to see the Naruto fight, but it jumped to Kiba and Shikamaru and only showed Naruto once.
Djudge86
02-10-2004, 05:47 PM
Hmm, another miracle jutsu pulled off by the Konoha Genin. I won't be surprised if this fight drags on just as long as the previous entanglements that were shown earlier in the arc. Knowing the current trend of storyline we'll probably see Kiba, Akamaru, and Shikamaru resolve their duels before we even get into the meat and bones of the main event with Kyuubi-Naruto and Kimimaro (if it even lasts that long).
Demonshadow9
02-10-2004, 05:57 PM
i didnt like 203..Maybe its beacuse nothing that important happened sure you got the begining of narutos fight and the the sound genin (the guy thats fighting kiba) sprouted two heads WTF
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-10-2004, 08:11 PM
I like the three fights at once it breaks the formula of a fight a month. Kiba's fight is coming to an end soon the guy's already level 2 seal and tuyuya already went 1 and she should go like 2 in one more so we'll get to the big fight quicker. I get a feeling something bigs gonna happen at the end of that fight. Oh, and I started full metal alchemist great series thanks to whoever recommended it.
flict0nic
02-13-2004, 07:59 PM
so has anyone read chapter 204. I liked it better than 203 because it only focused on Kiba's fight but once again, now for the 3rd fight in a row
SPOILERS***
Kiba now may die in his fight just like Chouji and Nejji.
What did you guys think of it?
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-14-2004, 10:30 AM
I knew he would do some suicide attack because u can sometimes tell how writers think. The way the fights were set up u knew that they would all have to give up their lives to win or at least supposedly. I'm still not sure the guys gonna get rid of them.
Djudge86
02-14-2004, 09:48 PM
*flushes toilet*
Erhm, well I guess Shikamaru better think his way out of at least not dying against Tayuya and her three summons because this plot is just getting ridiculous. I know this may sound a little n00bish and all, but the question is just being begged here, but how do you think Kishimoto wrote himself out of this "plot" that's currently running?
rvx3452000
02-15-2004, 07:58 AM
chapter 204 is out? I forgot cuz i just got the anime yesterday!! Eps 1-67 on VHS for $20!! Legally too. I'm gonna go get 204 now.
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-17-2004, 09:12 AM
either their all dead forever which noone seems to believe or someone else if following like a healed rock lee or the hokage healing em all. Then goku comes in and revives with the dragonballs. Either that or sasuke wakes up and pulls something but I get teh feeling hes gonna go bad for a while.
RahXephon
02-17-2004, 09:25 AM
Dude, spoiler warnings would have been nice.:mad:
Plus dont put them in your thread title, just for future reference.
flict0nic
02-17-2004, 01:57 PM
okay for everyone who comes in here this thread has become a weekly discussion of the newest Naruto chapter and how the series will progress and about Naruto becoming Hokage so for anyone who hasn't read up to like chapter 200 I'm just going to say that there most likely will be spoilers in almost every post.
***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***
rvx3452000
02-17-2004, 02:19 PM
I just read 204, and i like it. I didn;t expect Kiba to want to kill himself.
Do you guys think he'll do it??? Ohhh the suspense!!!
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-17-2004, 09:15 PM
yea he will then shikomaru will and maybe naruto cause it's becoming a trend
flict0nic
02-18-2004, 03:09 PM
i don't think he'll kill himself. I think they will drag the fight on for a little more and then he'll do a move that should kill him but doesn't, which is also my theory for Chouji and Neji I mean coe on they can't die.
Demonshadow9
02-18-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
i don't think he'll kill himself. I think they will drag the fight on for a little more and then he'll do a move that should kill him but doesn't, which is also my theory for Chouji and Neji I mean coe on they can't die.
Im on you with this one ,Maybe one or too will die but they cant all die.The problem with drawing the fights out is that it risks turning into a dbz fighting patern
TasukiGODofFIRE
02-18-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Im on you with this one ,Maybe one or too will die but they cant all die.The problem with drawing the fights out is that it risks turning into a dbz fighting patern no if you've seen enough tv shows they like cohesion so it probably gonna be all or nothing. They like one running theme. But i've seen plenty of shows where they said they would give their lives but really didn't so I'm thinking thats what would happen but who knows he might have balls and kill them all.
rvx3452000
02-21-2004, 05:38 PM
well, after reading 205, he stabbed himself twice, and him and his dog is really baddly injured, so i think Kiba might die. Also, Neji should die too, cuz he got two big gaping holes in his body!
I just watched like 32 eps of the anime, its so tight!! The aniimation is top notch, the fights are what i expected and better!
flict0nic
02-21-2004, 10:05 PM
yea not to get off topic but the anime is really really good. The latest episode, 71, was the fight with Orochimaru and the Hokage and well it was cool in the manga but sick in the anime.
rvx3452000
02-22-2004, 07:29 AM
yo, where does eps 67 leave off, cuz thats all that i bought^_^
My mom liked the fight between Sasuke and Orchimaru[during the survival compitietion] but don't like the character development.
Anyway[back on tpic] The 205 chap is okay, it's kinda confusing. And i'm tired of seeing tidbits of the naruto fight. I expect big techniques from Kimiaro, since he's so strong.
BTW, what happened to Gaara? Was he only gonna appear that one time, or what?
Skyro
02-22-2004, 04:22 PM
Mmmm.. episode 71 was indeed awesome. The action was crazy.
But what about Gaara? He's no longer relevant to the current plot so why would he still be around (in the manga)? He might have some cameo appearances later though.
Demonshadow9
02-22-2004, 05:15 PM
Im curious as to where the manga will go after this arc.And yeah
gaara's cool hes my third favorite character
1)kakashi
2)naruto
3)gaara
4)neji
edit- im talking about the manga I havet seen the anime
flict0nic
02-22-2004, 05:53 PM
yeah actually I was wondering about Gaara just the other day. I can't even remember what happened to him. After him and Naruto have their giant fight, where did he go?
rvx3452000
02-22-2004, 06:15 PM
He just left, and that was that. That's why i'm like, there has to be more, this guy is soo powerful. He might come back after Naruto beatss Orchimaru or something.
Demonshadow9
02-22-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
He just left, and that was that. That's why i'm like, there has to be more, this guy is soo powerful. He might come back after Naruto beatss Orchimaru or something.
Thats an intersting idea , but the only way I see gaara returning
is if the villiages declare war.I want to see the other villages blood lines too.so fare the leaf has the hyuga(nejis familly) ,one
uchia(sasuke).I want to know if any there are any survivors of
hakus clan as well as the other bloodlines.
rvx3452000
02-27-2004, 05:11 PM
yea, that'd be tigjht, unless kishimoto keeps dragging this orochimaru thing on more.
Demonshadow9
02-27-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
yea, that'd be tigjht, unless kishimoto keeps dragging this orochimaru thing on more.
I wonder if the next arc is going to be another tournment?Naruto still has to become a jonin so i guess another tourney has to be held.I wonder if gaaras coming back to participate?I just hope it doesnt become the equivelent to dbz martial arts tournement and happen time after time.
rvx3452000
02-28-2004, 07:38 AM
anyone read 206? Its finally picking up pace now.
flict0nic
03-17-2004, 11:03 AM
*bringing back the Naruto thread*
I've actually been really happy with the current pace of the series and especially how they are actually focusing on only one fight now, Shikamaru's, and that something may actually be resolved with the next 10 chapters. Anyone feel the same way?
rvx3452000
03-17-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
*bringing back the Naruto thread*
I've actually been really happy with the current pace of the series and especially how they are actually focusing on only one fight now, Shikamaru's, and that something may actually be resolved with the next 10 chapters. Anyone feel the same way?
Bout time the thread comes back, i was getting worried!
But anyway, i feel the same way: that art we all love, that little charm that we get when reading it is back, heh, Kishimoto must've wised up or something.
Demonshadow9
03-17-2004, 07:00 PM
With this new chapter shikumaru got alot of respect from me.I already liked him cause he's almost exactly like me(except he's smart).But this one showed what he could do if he put in an effort.I just want to what happened to Neji!!
flict0nic
03-17-2004, 07:22 PM
i dont think that we will find out what happened to neji or chouji for a really long time. I predict that naruto fights that guy and uses a lot of the demon foxes chakra and beats him then sasuka comes out and begins to fight naruto but their fight gets broken up by kakashi or ero senin then sasuke doesnt go back to kohona, and goes to see orochimaru. When he does this everyone else will be back in the village and the new girl hokage will cure neji chouji shikamaru and kiba. Then I predict Itachi and that group will be back in the picture and we will find out its motives and the connections between that group and orochimaura and the demon fox.
My other prediction of where the story will go is naruto will win his fight and will begin to fight sasuke but Itachi will pop out and kidnap naruto and we will find out about why the group wants the demon foxes power. I also think garaa will be worked back into the story considering he was a fan favorite.
anyone else got any theories?
Demonshadow9
03-17-2004, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by flict0nic
i dont think that we will find out what happened to neji or chouji for a really long time. I predict that naruto fights that guy and uses a lot of the demon foxes chakra and beats him then sasuka comes out and begins to fight naruto but their fight gets broken up by kakashi or ero senin then sasuke doesnt go back to kohona, and goes to see orochimaru. When he does this everyone else will be back in the village and the new girl hokage will cure neji chouji shikamaru and kiba. Then I predict Itachi and that group will be back in the picture and we will find out its motives and the connections between that group and orochimaura and the demon fox.
My other prediction of where the story will go is naruto will win his fight and will begin to fight sasuke but Itachi will pop out and kidnap naruto and we will find out about why the group wants the demon foxes power. I also think garaa will be worked back into the story considering he was a fan favorite.
anyone else got any theories?
Took the words out of my mouth.As for another theory Sakura will
be trained by the 50+hokage(with the massive implants 0_o) in
a atempt to keep her semi-important.With sasuke gone to ochimarus and narutos lost of interest in her the only story line she can effect is lee's.LEE!!! I forgot about him I want to see the kid back.
rvx3452000
03-18-2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Took the words out of my mouth.As for another theory Sakura will
be trained by the 50+hokage(with the massive implants 0_o) in
a atempt to keep her semi-important.With sasuke gone to ochimarus and narutos lost of interest in her the only story line she can effect is lee's.LEE!!! I forgot about him I want to see the kid back.
yea, i also wonder what the operation on Lee will be a success or not. If he dies that'll be so sad,...
Demonshadow9
03-18-2004, 06:58 PM
He better survive .Hmm Im not fond of tornaments but i could go
for one right now just to see how more powerfull skilled naruto
and his bunch are.With Lee heald of course.
right now i think the tiers are (excluding jonin and hokage caliber)
Naruto
Gaara
Sasuke
Neji
Lee(healed)
I dont know where to put Shino though i only saw him fight once
in the manga.(the big guy)
what do you guys think?Shikumarus a jonin so i didnt put him and
I dont really think he could compete with those 5.
flict0nic
03-18-2004, 08:22 PM
shikarmaru is a chuuin and naruto and the rest are still genins
Demonshadow9
03-19-2004, 04:24 PM
mixed up the titles sorry,but no one has any opinions?
flict0nic
03-19-2004, 07:44 PM
okay 209, I'm not going to name names but you can throw out my 2 predictions right now, I def. wasn't expecting him to show up, I suggest that everyone read 209 you'll be in for a shock.
In my opinion, very good chapter and twist in the story.
Demonshadow9
03-19-2004, 08:23 PM
MY BOYS BACK !!!!!Wow thats was a surprise!!
rvx3452000
03-20-2004, 06:40 AM
i was really suprised, i didn't even think of him though this whole battle.
Hmmm this is going to be a good chap 210 i'll tell you that.
Demonshadow9
03-20-2004, 08:14 AM
Wasnt there suposed to a rehab period?I smell self sacrafice,a lot
of people think kinimaro and lee will both die.(i didnt get what's wrong with kinimaru)
rvx3452000
03-21-2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Wasnt there suposed to a rehab period?I smell self sacrafice,a lot
of people think kinimaro and lee will both die.(i didnt get what's wrong with kinimaru)
me either, isn't his body like not real, cuz he's saving it for orochimaru?
I think Lee might die, but have yall noticed Lee only fights the baddest villians? I wouldn't be suprised if he wins against Kimaro and fights orchimaru.
Now, The pace is back. Sasuke's back! This part reminds me of vegeta when he searches for power from that guy who controlled Buu b4 Buu killed him. But Naruto does it better.
flict0nic
03-21-2004, 07:49 AM
it think kinimaru was supposed to be orochimaru's next body but he came down with some really bad illness....not sure about that though, that's just what I thought, we'll probably get some more flashbacks in the following chapters explaining it though.
rvx3452000
03-22-2004, 06:03 PM
yea, i just hope this pace keeps up.
Has anyone notice my string of avas lately? They're basically how i feel at the moment[sad now..]
Baka Senpai
03-31-2004, 11:35 PM
SPOILER ALERT
******************
you ppls think rock lee with his drunken fist stance can > bony kinimaru?
and is drunk rock lee > gai?
Senshi
04-01-2004, 04:23 AM
firstly.. please learn to use spoilertags... I woulda been pissed if I didnt read that far... (either do "[ Spoiler] what you wanna say [ /Spoiler]" without the spaces or click the spoiler button) I ended reading the ending to Cowboy Bebop cause people didnt know how to use freaking spoiler tags so now im on a personal crusade to increase spoiler tag awareness...
but back on topic:
yea personally I think drunk Rock Lee is gonna whup the shit outta bony dude... least I hope so... bout time Rock Lee got some serious ass whupping in (after that whole Gaara fiasco)... but who knows... remember Rock Lee is suppose to be in the recovery stages of his surgery
Demonshadow9
04-01-2004, 07:10 AM
This thread is for discussing the plot of naruto senshi,its all spoilers.That said the use of tags is optional.
Senshi
04-01-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
This thread is for discussing the plot of naruto senshi,its all spoilers.That said the use of tags is optional.
well didnt say anything about *SPOILERS* on the subject heading of the thread... didnt say anything about optional tags on the first page... i guess I coulda sifted through the other 7 pages to find the one post where some guy goes "Spoilers OK!" but i didnt feel like it
but other than that if somebody feels the need to go "SPOILER ALERT" then chances are they may not know about spoiler tags... therefore me explaining spoiler tags is necessary... also what if somebody has read only up to ch209 and came to discuss that and didnt read 210 yet... a spoiler tag would be appreciated by that person...
im just saying
rvx3452000
04-01-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Senshi
well didnt say anything about *SPOILERS* on the subject heading of the thread... didnt say anything about optional tags on the first page... i guess I coulda sifted through the other 7 pages to find the one post where some guy goes "Spoilers OK!" but i didnt feel like it
but other than that if somebody feels the need to go "SPOILER ALERT" then chances are they may not know about spoiler tags... therefore me explaining spoiler tags is necessary... also what if somebody has read only up to ch209 and came to discuss that and didnt read 210 yet... a spoiler tag would be appreciated by that person...
im just saying
Well, you seem to be the only guy in AA who doesn't know that this thread is all spoilers, its been that way since like the thread started.
Anyway, i just saw eps 76, and i'm loving it alot. Also, 210 was okay, too much talking for me, in short, i wasn't really feeling that chapter. The Konoha Senpuu didn't look that great, but i have high hopes for 211, i think he's gonna focus more on Shikamaru now in the next chap.
flict0nic
04-01-2004, 07:01 PM
you really like 76? I thought it was just boring filler, but i really can't wait until chap. 211, I thought 210 was awsome and I can't way to to see Lee kick some ass
rvx3452000
04-02-2004, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by flict0nic
you really like 76? I thought it was just boring filler, but i really can't wait until chap. 211, I thought 210 was awsome and I can't way to to see Lee kick some ass
yea, i liked it. I prefer that drama over the action anytime, cuz i felt for gaara, then i got eps 19, the one where zabuza dies fighting through all them numbers just to get to gatou.
I wanted ep 30, but couldn't find it in WMV format.
Senshi
04-02-2004, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by flict0nic
okay for everyone who comes in here this thread has become a weekly discussion of the newest Naruto chapter and how the series will progress and about Naruto becoming Hokage so for anyone who hasn't read up to like chapter 200 I'm just going to say that there most likely will be spoilers in almost every post.
***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***
I guess this is the magic post that made this into a spoilers ok thread... around page 6...
and as for the "only guy" I doubt it cause from the looks of things its been a 3-way conversation between you, flict0nic, and Demonshadow9 for the past 3 pages... I guess Im sorry for dropping in on youse guys conversation...
but back on topic:
yeah I didnt like episode 76 either... I mean it was just one big flashback... yeah it told about gaara's past and everything but jeez move things along already... same deal for 77 even tho it did have some decent action in it... cant wait for the episode where Naruto gives Gaara the 100 years of pain technique :D
Demonshadow9
04-02-2004, 09:30 AM
Well since i havent seen any of the anime and doubt I will for quite awhile ,I will talk about The manga.Im beggining to worry
about the minor characters being completly phased out.At least
rock-lee is back but seeing as choui is dead(he said it himself that the pill will kill him) neji is probably too(I hope not he's one of my favorites), its been awhile since ive seen kakashi aswell.Is anyone woried that they will phase out the characters as soon as they fight?That would be ok but if they keep introducing new characters and then taking them out as soon as they fight once its going to get annoying.
Senshi
04-02-2004, 12:36 PM
i wouldnt be suprised if Chouji and Neji pull a Sasuke from the Haku fight... where everybody is like... Oh crap their dead... then they just get up, dust themselves off and are like "im fine"...
but then again I wouldnt be suprised if the author was trying to kill em off... I imagine its hard enough trying to keep up with just naruto sasuke and sakura... as for Rock Lee and Kakashi... hells no... both are way to popular to be snubbed out... it would piss off alotta fans I think
*Edit* btw anybody know when the next chapter usually comes out... I thought it was friday...
rvx3452000
04-02-2004, 02:56 PM
yea, i think chouji should die, more dramatic, and neji cannot become a ninja anymore, i mean, look at that wound he got. Now i wonder whats up with sasuke, i hope 211 is better than 210 cuz 210 was just talking about lee getting drunk.
Senshi
04-03-2004, 05:26 AM
just checked out the raw of 211... lots more fighting... wont go into too much... but lots of Rock Lee kicking ass
and yeah your right rvx... Neji's wounds could definitely be described as "gaping" so I can definitely see him not coming back...
rvx3452000
04-03-2004, 05:41 AM
naruto EX is down guys. so i'll have to check out the raws somewhere else
Demonshadow9
04-03-2004, 02:57 PM
Well the site I go to has it in english,I liked the chapter until kinimaru use his blood limit,ugh its disgusting and it isnt even cool! Gives a new meaning to the word "boner" ,though.
rvx3452000
04-03-2004, 07:31 PM
lol, true, that chaps art was okay, not the best...
anyway, i like how he stuck kiba in there, i kinda figured kiba would live.
TasukiGODofFIRE
04-04-2004, 05:31 PM
So far everyones suffered some mortal wound but I'm still in denile that any of them are going to actaully die. He'll prob make up the excuse that lee brought them back before he got there or something like that. Kimmaro hasn;t even used his seal thing yet and we got worried gai at home whose gonna run to give lee his medicine so yea hes got tons of ways of bringing em back to life.
Senshi
04-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Does anybody else think that Sasuke is gonna end up with the level 2 seal powers all under his control... like they (and by "they" i mean a random collection of characters from the story) defeat orochimaru but Sasuke still has the seal on him, and since nobody is there to control him - bingo new super powers...
With level 2 seal he could be almost as powerful as Naruto again (lvl 2 seal increases latent abilities by x10 and his latent abilities are already higher than most ninjas his age including Naruto - i.e. Naruto's latent blue Chakra opposed to the Fox Red Chakra)... so with that he could at the very least approach Naruto with Fox Demon Chakra...
Because I mean Naruto needs a rival, and right now normal Sasuke would get his ass whupped by Naruto easily with Naruto's new jutsus (summoning and the ball of chakra whose name i cant remember) Sharingan or not... so I think he will get level 2 enhanced Chakra (think Super Saiyan I guess) plus new Oro-influenced jutsus... looking at some of the full color pictures from the manga I saw one with Sasuke holding a sword with a snake wrapped around him... something tells me he is gonna learn snake summoning and maybe get the Sword of Kusanagi...
all of this is just speculation tho... (I mean I gotta do something while I wait another week for a chapter)
and hopefully on top of all of that he will turn good again (and maybe acknowledge Sakura)... I wish that cause Sasuke was my favorite character... but ever since the Itachi incident he has pretty much been a douchebag (save that time he told Sakura "thank you")...
plus they need to add SOMETHING that explains why Sakura likes him so much... I mean yeah he was the cool guy in school and everything but that only should go so far... when he acts THAT coldly to her, you'd think that would turn her off... but it doesnt for some reason... thats why I think they need to add like a flashback that shows something like how Sasuke and Sakura were really good friends before Itachi offed Sasuke's parents and Sasuke went all psycho... just ANYTHING that could possibly show why shes so in love with him because I mean she seems mentally sound so why would she do such insane things...
rvx3452000
04-05-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Senshi
Does anybody else think that Sasuke is gonna end up with the level 2 seal powers all under his control... like they (and by "they" i mean a random collection of characters from the story) defeat orochimaru but Sasuke still has the seal on him, and since nobody is there to control him - bingo new super powers...
With level 2 seal he could be almost as powerful as Naruto again (lvl 2 seal increases latent abilities by x10 and his latent abilities are already higher than most ninjas his age including Naruto - i.e. Naruto's latent blue Chakra opposed to the Fox Red Chakra)... so with that he could at the very least approach Naruto with Fox Demon Chakra...
Because I mean Naruto needs a rival, and right now normal Sasuke would get his ass whupped by Naruto easily with Naruto's new jutsus (summoning and the ball of chakra whose name i cant remember) Sharingan or not... so I think he will get level 2 enhanced Chakra (think Super Saiyan I guess) plus new Oro-influenced jutsus... looking at some of the full color pictures from the manga I saw one with Sasuke holding a sword with a snake wrapped around him... something tells me he is gonna learn snake summoning and maybe get the Sword of Kusanagi...
all of this is just speculation tho... (I mean I gotta do something while I wait another week for a chapter)
and hopefully on top of all of that he will turn good again (and maybe acknowledge Sakura)... I wish that cause Sasuke was my favorite character... but ever since the Itachi incident he has pretty much been a douchebag (save that time he told Sakura "thank you")...
plus they need to add SOMETHING that explains why Sakura likes him so much... I mean yeah he was the cool guy in school and everything but that only should go so far... when he acts THAT coldly to her, you'd think that would turn her off... but it doesnt for some reason... thats why I think they need to add like a flashback that shows something like how Sasuke and Sakura were really good friends before Itachi offed Sasuke's parents and Sasuke went all psycho... just ANYTHING that could possibly show why shes so in love with him because I mean she seems mentally sound so why would she do such insane things...
lol, true, i've been wondering the same thing. Maybe they had sex?
Anyway, meh agrees, i've seen alot of pics of the Fourth and Sasuke with the snake, i think that Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura are the next Great Three Nins or whatever, and lookit this pic i found:
http://www.narutoex.com/donotdirectlink/fans/fanart/narutotrio.jpg
Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke all grown up. its a fanart though.
Demonshadow9
04-05-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
lol, true, i've been wondering the same thing. Maybe they had sex?
dude, theyre 12 years old......
and as for naruto needing a rival ,lee is right up there with him in terms of strengh and speed.Lee>Sasuke think about it ,lee has better speed, better technique and the loctus and the gates , sasuke has the sharigan (useless in this fight since theres nothing to mimic) and fire jitsu.
Senshi
04-05-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
dude, theyre 12 years old......
and as for naruto needing a rival ,lee is right up there with him in terms of strengh and speed.Lee>Sasuke think about it ,lee has better speed, better technique and the loctus and the gates , sasuke has the sharigan (useless in this fight since theres nothing to mimic) and fire jitsu.
First of all your right about the whole 12 years old thing... thats one of the reasons why its weird... cause Sakura is way too young to think about Sasuke sexually, so where is the affection coming from...
Second... a bit of a rabid Rock Lee fanboy no? I like Rock Lee as much as the next guy but no way is he rival material for Naruto...
firstly... Rock Lee has a Rival - Neji (well if hes still alive that is)...
Second - Rock Lee is a year older and more experienced than Naruto... not exactly on the same playing field... Its like saying Kakashi should be Naruto's rival just because Kakashi is better than Sasuke...
Third - What do Rock Lee and Naruto have to fight about? Sakura MAYBE (like either really have a chance with that Sasuke-crazed girl... I mean when a girl sits by a guys bedside every day for weeks cutting apples then talks about how she would basically die of loneliness if Sasuke left... you pretty much have no chance of breaking that devotion)... But Rock Lee and Naruto like each other from what Ive seen... Rivals shouldnt like each other... they should hate, but respect each other... How does Sasuke fit the bill? when he took the needles for Naruto in the Haku story... he ended up taking the bullet for Naruto but even til the end (or so we thought anyways) said that he hated him...
Forth to be a good rival you have to have really contrasting view points... example: Gai and Kakashi... Kakashi is cool and collected while Gai is loud and fiery... Rock Lee and Neji is another - Rock is a hard worker and Neji is a genius... Rock Lee and Naruto arent exactly the same but they arent really different either... I mean both are pretty much goobers who feel like they have something to prove... Now look at Sasuke and Naruto - Sasuke is cool quiet and with an evil streak... Naruto on the other hand is loud obnoxius fiery but with a good heart... their totally opposite yet somehow the same... perfect rival material...
Fifth... they have to be the same skillwise... yeah Rock Lee may be strong now... but the man has NO jutsus cept Taijutsu... yeah hes still a badass, but cmon... where is the great symbolic rivalry there... Think about Naruto vs Rock Lee... Naruto uses a combination of jutsu's mostly Kage Bun no Jutsu and Summoning no jutsu.... Rock lee just attacks with his taijutsu and maybe opens some gates and does some lotus'... their two TOTALLY different fighting styles... While Naruto is a combination of jutsu's Rock Lee is COMPLETELY taijutsu... Sasuke on the other hand is also a combination type like naruto... Sasuke has his taijutsu attacks that he mixes in with his other jutsus... and most importantly of all Naruto and Sasuke have jutsu's that pretty much counteract each other... Chidori and Rasengan*... Chidori is precise thrusting damage while Rasengan is like wild explosive damage... think of the symbolism when those two attacks first came at each other...
Sixth... yeah when Sasuke and Lee first fought Lee pretty much beat him good... but now, especially with the evil seal and Lee being hospitalized, Sasuke pretty much has the upperhand... remember the battle with Gaara... Sasuke was showing Lee-like speed... and even though Lee has the gates, Sasuke now has Chidori (plus the fact alot has changed since before the Chunin Exam)... When you think of everything that has happened to Sasuke since the Chunin exam - Lion Combo, Copy Lee Speed, Chidori, Evil Seal - Sasuke is ALOT different from when they first met when all he had was Sharingan and Gaton no jutsu... Whether this means Sasuke would beat Lee remains to be seen... but nonetheless Sasuke is nowhere near as weak as before the Chunin Exam while Lee is probably weaker since the Gaara fight...
I mean look at all the great rivals... Ryu and Ken... Ryuhou and Kazuma... Kyo and Iori... Goku and Vegeta (*cringe* yeah I said it)... they all fit this description... They are both at similar stages in their life... both differ from one another greatly... both hate but respect the other... and most of all both are at pretty much the same level skillwise yet differ in style and types of attacks...
Otherwise that just goes to show you how good a series this is when a guy like me decides to type this much about it...
*edit* also that Fan art was really cool RVX... I like how Naruto kinda looks like the forth but still has that "heh heh" attitude that is distinctly Naruto....
*edit2* thanks to Dancin' Camel who pointed out that the Chakra ball is called Rasengan
Demonshadow9
04-05-2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah I see where youre coming from senshi, and no im not a lee fanboy(I think) my favorite is neji.I did not mean they were going to be enemy's just competing to be the strongest they can.And a interesting point is narutos kage bushin(sp?) was getting him nowhere against kinimaru , while lee is hanging in there with his drunken style(maybe i am a fanboy).
Then there's the fact that naruto>sasuke. As stated above lee while older then naruto and having no chakara or jutsus is as st physicaly strong and fast as naruto.So what im trying to say is lee>sasuke(pre-curse seal).And yes sasuke will be the rival , but come on ,why not something different then the carefree but talented guy vs the tight-ass elite we always se in anime?
(the above is only my opinion)
goku vs vegeta?.....I will pretend i didnt here that>_> <_< lol.
rvx3452000
04-06-2004, 05:32 AM
yah, i'm so slow. I noticed something distinct about their attacks, how they both have some terror inside them that they must deal with, etc. But one thing i still don't know is what part does Sakura play in al of this?????
I mean, in the chuunin exam, she was on a roll, fighting and learning and showing us her knowledge of jutsus, but wtf happened after that?
also...if naruto is a genin, how will he become hokage if he never raises through the ranks? I think that he'll start bringing up the Fourth next, i want to see how the 4th became Hokage, cuz Naruto i think is the 4ths son, and Gamabunta belonged to the 4th b4 naruto.
Demonshadow9
04-06-2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
yah, i'm so slow. I noticed something distinct about their attacks, how they both have some terror inside them that they must deal with, etc. But one thing i still don't know is what part does Sakura play in al of this?????
I mean, in the chuunin exam, she was on a roll, fighting and learning and showing us her knowledge of jutsus, but wtf happened after that?
also...if naruto is a genin, how will he become hokage if he never raises through the ranks? I think that he'll start bringing up the Fourth next, i want to see how the 4th became Hokage, cuz Naruto i think is the 4ths son, and Gamabunta belonged to the 4th b4 naruto.
Not in a long while man,theres stil lee,neji,kiba,shikumaru,sasuke ,and narutos stroyline to finish first.I think he bit off more then he could chew with all these battles .Way to many things going on.
edit-How old was kakashi when he became a chunin?I remember he was younger then naruto but I dont remeber the exact age.
Senshi
04-06-2004, 11:37 AM
yeah that and the fact that Naruto is still way to young to be Hokage... yeah hes superpowerful... for his age... but there are still alot of people that would become Hokage before him... Im expected at least a 6th and possibly a 7th Hokage before Naruto... but then again he might just become "the youngest Hokage ever" or something... you know how these things are...
But who do you think could be the next Hokage after the great 3 nins (since we know Jiraiya doesnt want the job) if Naruto doesnt make it in time?
Maybe Kakashi... but I doubt that because 1) whiles hes strong he only has 1 original technique and 2) something tells me he is gonna go out martyr style somewhere in this story...
but wouldnt that be something... Kakashi the Hokage...
<imagines Kakashi in the big Hokage hat with that same "trying not to look high" look on his face... and a copy of "Flirting Paradise 4" in his hand>
*edit* and as for Sakura she is the essential piece in the Love Triangle... so I guess thats her only purpose... my guess is that shes gonna do like somebody else mentioned in this thread and study under the 5th on how to be a medic ninja... remember some picture with her and a Snail like the 5th summons
rvx3452000
04-06-2004, 09:18 PM
yah, it was Chap 2 in vol 1<----looking at vol 1 now^_^
I get it, but kakashi the hokage? I can't see that, he may die, but i think he may go back to ANBU. Sasuke, i think he can go 2 ways. Either good and be like Narutos right-hand man[what if Sasuke becomes hokage first???]or go orochimaru style on everyone. And Itachi, and those others with him who work for orochimaru, hmmm, i wonder what their purpose is. Too many questions unanswered, i don't think this seris will end soon.
Senshi
04-07-2004, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
yah, it was Chap 2 in vol 1<----looking at vol 1 now^_^
I get it, but kakashi the hokage? I can't see that, he may die, but i think he may go back to ANBU. Sasuke, i think he can go 2 ways. Either good and be like Narutos right-hand man[what if Sasuke becomes hokage first???]or go orochimaru style on everyone. And Itachi, and those others with him who work for orochimaru, hmmm, i wonder what their purpose is. Too many questions unanswered, i don't think this seris will end soon.
yeah I think you pretty nailed it right there... Sasuke will basically either be a backstabbing bastard like Orochimaru (if he turns evil) or ass-kicking nice guy like Kakashi (if he stays good) imo too... of course there is always the option where he dies prematurely trying to get Itachi (but I think Itachi wont even fight Sasuke until Sasuke is strong enough to beat him)...
but there is no way Sasuke would be Hokage... I mean if he was even offered the position he would be like "Feh" and decline it... but I doubt he would even be offered it (even if he did by chance become the best ninja in Konoha)....
yeah but either way I think we can expect at least a few more years outta it... cause its way too popular in Japan and the States to be dropped now...
I just hope we dont have to see "Naruto Z" anywhere down the line and they just gradually grow up as the series progresses Hikaru No Go style...
Demonshadow9
04-07-2004, 07:47 AM
Well while were waiting for the next chapter what is the character you most identify with ? Mine is kakashi,laid back ,cool,and ok with public viewing of "inapropiate material"lol.
Senshi
04-07-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Well while were waiting for the next chapter what is the character you most identify with ? Mine is kakashi,laid back ,cool,and ok with public viewing of "inapropiate material"lol.
Yeah... they seriously need to make it like a daily thing instead of weekly... waiting for the next chapter is a pain in the ass :D
but yeah I took an online quiz and they said I was like Sasuke and I guess I kinda agree with it... yeah in RL im real quiet and anti-social... plus Ive also had trauma in the past concerning my parents (nothing like my brother killing them but still it was bad enough) so I get where he is coming from when he is being a punk to everybody... sometimes people dont understand when youve had really bad things happen to you in your lifetime you usually dont want people to experience the same pain you have, which is why I feel Sasuke is always cold to Sakura... he doesnt want her to have to deal with his drama... least thats what I feel anyways (I still want Sasuke to turn out to be a good guy)...
Still doesnt explain why Sakura is so obsessed with him tho...
we need some ladies posting on this thread to help give us insight on how a girl could be so obsessed with a guy who is always mean to her...
rvx3452000
04-07-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Senshi
Yeah... they seriously need to make it like a daily thing instead of weekly... waiting for the next chapter is a pain in the ass :D
a week isn't even enough time. He has only a week to come up with 20 pages, and as a manga-ka[american] in training, i know how hard that is. So yea, its enough time.
Anyway, i just saw 77 and i'm loving it, can't wait till 78 cuz i know gamabunta is coming. I also can't wait for when all the great nins fight each other, thats tight.
As for the character, i took a test, and it said i was like Kiba. I agree, i got that f*** em all attitude, but is sincere at times. I always take the leader position as well, and hate to lose.
genki sakura
04-08-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
How do you guys get all these chaps? I'm only on vol 1, waiting for 2 to come out.
join the club....help...i'm not really being allowed to download anime(wish i could)...i feel so deprived....i'll just find the manga and read it....joy......
Madoka
04-08-2004, 09:25 PM
I know you guys like to use only this thread to talk about Naruto right now, but please remember this is the manga forum and not the anime forum. You're more than welcome to create or reply to Naruto threads in that forum just for the anime.
Also, just a reminder, do not mention where to get scanlations or anything of the sort in this thread or I will have to close it.
Demonshadow9
04-09-2004, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Madoka
I know you guys like to use only this thread to talk about Naruto right now, but please remember this is the manga forum and not the anime forum. You're more than welcome to create or reply to Naruto threads in that forum just for the anime.
Also, just a reminder, do not mention where to get scanlations or anything of the sort in this thread or I will have to close it.
Just buying time until the next chapter is realeased madoka.On a manga related note shonen jump has finished the zabuza arc and
if my memory is correct the genins exam is next .Meaning lee vs garra is coming!!That fight was the best so far.And nejis vs naruto too!
edit -genki sakura check your pm box
edit WTF, WTF!!!!- SENSHI ,RVX check out the the raw for 212 NOW!!!!!!! Damnit this is completley unexpected .
GAARAS BACK ,WTF ARE THE SAND NINS DOING HERE
Skyro
04-09-2004, 12:45 PM
The fact of the matter the whole concept of Sakura (an adolescent girl) was invented by Kishimoto (a grown man). Kishimoto pretty much said that a girl only thinking about love and boys was believable at that age.
Senshi
04-09-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
edit WTF, WTF!!!!- SENSHI ,RVX check out the the raw for 212 NOW!!!!!!! Damnit this is completley unexpected .
GAARAS BACK ,WTF ARE THE SAND NINS DOING HERE
I know man I just read the raw and when I saw that I was like "Holy sh*t!!!!"... Looks like their is gonna be some serious ass-stomping going on in the next issues... Kishimoto likes to throw his curveballs high and inside dont he :)
I cant understand Japanese... but Im guessing its time for the village of Sand to get payback for when the sound village betrayed them during the Chunin exam... all I gotta say is that its good to see Gaara as a good guy this time... hell yeah
And GS - I actually think your ideas were good... I kinda think its your #2 I guess... nothing else really explains it...
and as for Skyro's answer... yeah I see your point and what Kishimoto was going for... but love and boys at that age is one thing... but Sakura is pretty freaking PSYCHO about it... I mean this sorta psycho love is right up there with Basic Instinct or Ai Yori Aoshi (I mean cmon... everybody knows Aoi is a little too psycho about Kaoru)...
Illjwamh
04-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Senshi
and as for Skyro's answer... yeah I see your point and what Kishimoto was going for... but love and boys at that age is one thing... but Sakura is pretty freaking PSYCHO about it... I mean this sorta psycho love is right up there with Basic Instinct or Ai Yori Aoshi (I mean cmon... everybody knows Aoi is a little too psycho about Kaoru)...
I'll agree with all points there.
The thing with Sakura that gets me most is this:
Sure, she's obsessed with Sasuke. But no preteen lovestruck girl can hang onto a crush after putting up with that much crap and still making no progress at all. This led me to formulate a theory that Sakura has some sort of secret from her past that has led to some emotional problems. She's convinced herself that she's in love with Sasuke. It was genuine at first, but now she's just so used to it that it's like a natural thing. She doesn't know how to not be in love with Sasuke.
genki sakura
04-09-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Illjwamh
I'll agree with all points there.
The thing with Sakura that gets me most is this:
Sure, she's obsessed with Sasuke. But no preteen lovestruck girl can hang onto a crush after putting up with that much crap and still making no progress at all. This led me to formulate a theory that Sakura has some sort of secret from her past that has led to some emotional problems. She's convinced herself that she's in love with Sasuke. It was genuine at first, but now she's just so used to it that it's like a natural thing. She doesn't know how to not be in love with Sasuke.
heh, what do you expect? It's probably supposed to be like an underlying theme of Naruto(what would i know?), you know loyalty to the end.. i don't know..highly unlikely though..
and yeah, a preteen girl can have an obsession, but once you've convinced yourself that your in love with someone...no going back, believe me it can happen. And if she had some emotional problem in the past, then Sasuke might have had something to do with it, or....
she might be just so dumb that Sasuke loving her is an illusion that it just seems real for her in order to deal with an inner problem..
Couldn't it also be a reflection of today's times of how women can stand by their man even when they're abusive and giving them crap? Highly unlikely, but probable.
Demonshadow9
04-09-2004, 08:33 PM
Lol all you guys have complicated theorys about sakura ,I just thought of her as a masochist with issues.You do realize that now theres someone that may know of nejis fate ,after all they were bound to run in to him.plus rock lee=awsome Gaara=kick ass, lee+gaara=godly Im going to be disapointed if the fights arent caryed out well.
Illjwamh
04-10-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by genki sakura
heh, what do you expect? It's probably supposed to be like an underlying theme of Naruto(what would i know?), you know loyalty to the end.. i don't know..highly unlikely though..
and yeah, a preteen girl can have an obsession, but once you've convinced yourself that your in love with someone...no going back, believe me it can happen. And if she had some emotional problem in the past, then Sasuke might have had something to do with it, or....
she might be just so dumb that Sasuke loving her is an illusion that it just seems real for her in order to deal with an inner problem..
Couldn't it also be a reflection of today's times of how women can stand by their man even when they're abusive and giving them crap? Highly unlikely, but probable.
Hmm, interesting.
What I was talking about though, I've seen it happen. It happened to a couple of friends of mine, and even happened to me. Years ago, there was a girl that I really liked. She was a good friend of mine, and I convinced myself that I was in love with her. After years of crap and two bouts of depression, I realized that I wasn't, and possibly never was. I had just grown so used to the concept that I couldn't break free of the infatuation.
Sakura, I think, is in a similar situation, only it's harder for her to break free because she's too young to really understand the emotions in question anyway.
rvx3452000
04-10-2004, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Just buying time until the next chapter is realeased madoka.On a manga related note shonen jump has finished the zabuza arc and
if my memory is correct the genins exam is next .Meaning lee vs garra is coming!!That fight was the best so far.And nejis vs naruto too!
edit -genki sakura check your pm box
edit WTF, WTF!!!!- SENSHI ,RVX check out the the raw for 212 NOW!!!!!!! Damnit this is completley unexpected .
GAARAS BACK ,WTF ARE THE SAND NINS DOING HERE
ARE YOU SERIOUS|?????!!!! I need to get that one!!!
Originally posted by genki sakura
join the club....help...i'm not really being allowed to download anime(wish i could)...i feel so deprived....i'll just find the manga and read it....joy......
hmm, that was a while ago...i have read up to 211 waiting for 212 to come out, but don't worry, just catch up, you'll be suprised of what you find out.
rvx3452000
04-10-2004, 07:48 AM
kay, i'm back, i just saw eps 78 and i read the translated version of 212 and they boyth were tight. I cant believe that Gaara and them are back, thats a shocker really.
Demonshadow9
04-10-2004, 12:11 PM
well anyone want to speculate what will happen next ?I just hope it doesnt start to drag again.
Illjwamh
04-10-2004, 12:48 PM
I'm just really curious about how Lee's going to feel after being saved by Gaara.
Maveric
04-10-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Illjwamh
I'm just really curious about how Lee's going to feel after being saved by Gaara.
He'll probably forget about it in the morning if he's still drunk (I assume so, but he kinda looked a bit sober after being stopped by the ribs there).
Nifty new clothes on the sand ninjas though.
Senshi
04-10-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Maveric
Nifty new clothes on the sand ninjas though.
w3rd.
when I saw Gaara I started to hear AC/DC's "Back in Black" in my head...
also after reading the translation looks like Sand is konoha's allies again... I guess since the last Kazekage got iced by Orochimaru Sand is back on good terms with Konoha...
Plus im sure Gaara is pretty happy that his douchebag of a father is dead now so he doesnt have to dodge assassins all the freaking time...
my only question is what is that "i" suppose to mean on their headband... I mean when you see "leaf" village and "mist" village and "sound" villages headbands, they make sense... but what does an "i" have to do with sand?
rvx3452000
04-11-2004, 06:03 AM
actually, i thought it was like an iron or a castle or something.
I just hope it doent start to drag on like it was earlier, io trhink gaara can beat kimimaro, and of corse temari and kankuro can beat the others.I wanna know hat happend to Naruto mosto f all, and sasuke.
Senshi
04-11-2004, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
I just hope it doent start to drag on like it was earlier
I think your asking for the impossible there... this IS naruto after all... This series was made to drag on... thats why people relate it to Drag-on Ball Z so much (even though they really are alot different)...
Maveric
04-11-2004, 11:57 AM
Actually, I read somewhere that the author is greatly influenced by DBZ, so that isn't a bad relation.
rvx3452000
04-11-2004, 12:09 PM
he was, i heard a rumor somewhere that Naruto was gonna leanr the kamehameha no jutsu technique, let it stay a rumor plz...
As for Sakura, i don't really know.
i drew some fanrt this time, heres some:
Sakura-- http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6417731/
Sasuke--- http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6448450/
Kakashi[not finished though]---http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6415030/
Illjwamh
04-11-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Maveric
Actually, I read somewhere that the author is greatly influenced by DBZ, so that isn't a bad relation.
He was influenced by Dragonball, not Dragonball Z. There is a difference, the biggest one being that Dragonball was actually good all the way through.
Originally posted by rvx3452000
he was, i heard a rumor somewhere that Naruto was gonna leanr the kamehameha no jutsu technique, let it stay a rumor plz...
Of course it's a rumor...and quite possibly the dumbest one I've ever heard, at that.
rvx3452000
04-12-2004, 07:05 PM
phew, glad thats a rumor.
Anyway, does anyone have any theroies about some of the mysterious characters?? Maybe this disscussion can tidde us over till the next chap/eps.
Illjwamh
04-12-2004, 07:44 PM
Mysterious characters? Like who?
rvx3452000
04-13-2004, 04:19 AM
y'know, theres alot. Like Kakashi, Itachi, wwhatever. I really don't have any theroies, except that the 4th and Naruto look alike and that just came to me now.
Demonshadow9
04-13-2004, 08:07 AM
Kakashi got his sharigan how?I dont think he would kill a uchia just for that...though its posible.How did he lose his eye?
random bashing to the people that think sasuke will kill itachi=
Are you stupid??? Itachi=ochimaru(there freaking legendary)
sasuke is a elitest with talent but nowhere near them,hes not even as strong as naruto; there is no way that he will be able to kill him within the next 10 years(which at that time naruto will turn into naruto X )
rvx3452000
04-13-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Demonshadow9
Kakashi got his sharigan how?I dont think he would kill a uchia just for that...though its posible.How did he lose his eye?
random bashing to the people that think sasuke will kill itachi=
Are you stupid??? Itachi=ochimaru(there freaking legendary)
sasuke is a elitest with talent but nowhere near them,hes not even as strong as naruto; there is no way that he will be able to kill him within the next 10 years(which at that time naruto will turn into naruto X )
what is Naruto X? Like a new seris of Naruto, god i hope not. He needs to leave it at Naruto, and not make a charkura power up battle seris like DBZ.
Anyway, i figure Oro is working for Itachi, and itachi is the grander villian in all this, oro is just his puppet. I think itachi promised oro like immortality or something if he did this for him.
Illjwamh
04-13-2004, 02:25 PM
No way. Orochimaru is one of the three sennins. He wouldn't work for anybody.
Actually, didn't he leave the organization? He's not even working with Itachi anymore, I don't think.
Demonshadow9
04-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by rvx3452000
what is Naruto X? Like a new seris of Naruto, god i hope not. He needs to leave it at Naruto, and not make a charkura power up battle seris like DBZ.
Anyway, i figure Oro is working for Itachi, and itachi is the grander villian in all this, oro is just his puppet. I think itachi promised oro like immortality or something if he did this for him.
Thats was the joke rvx .I find it funny and disturbing that the series has so many things to acomplish that it will take two series
db+dbz , naruto +naruto x.I was just joking.
edit =ochimaru did leave the group where itachi works, if anything theyre enemies.
Senshi
04-13-2004, 06:31 PM
hmmm yeah I think somewhere down the line after they defeat Orochimaru is when they are gonna start fighting that organization that Itachi works for...
also... my theory on Kakashi is he got the eye from some sorta surgery after the whole Uchiha wipeout... like Konoha had to find some way to keep the Sharingan so they made Kakashi have an operation where they took out his eye and put in an Uchiha eye... of course thats probably a little too out there...
there is suppose to be a movie coming out in the summer in Japan... its suppose to contain some information about Kakashi's past in it too so Im excited about that...
plus I do think that Itachi is probably around the same level as Orochimaru... think about it... Itachi pretty much pwnt Kakashi without hardly doing anything... the man is just bad news all the way around... you dont wanna f* with him...
granted Ive never seen Itachi ressurect 3 of the 4 Hokages to do his fighting... now thats some scary sh*t right there (although maybe Itachi could copy it with his sharigan)...
all im saying is dont take Itachi lightly... I mean even Jiraiya could barely stop him...
also... dont take Sasuke lightly either... we wont know for sure but Im still placing my bets that he will be friggin powerful after they deal with Orochimaru...
and when do you guys think we should start another thread? I mean we are at 12 pages already...
Demonshadow9
04-13-2004, 06:53 PM
This threads fine senshi , we have the largest active thread in the academy! And what I said was itachi is equal to ochimaru(curent state , I think he would beat him with a 100% body) and thats why I think that unless sasuke becomes a hokage level ninja he will be severly out classed that and itachi killed their entire clan
with every ability that sasuke had the curse seal is not that strong ,I mean neji and choui won their fights and shikumaru and kiba held their own and their just gennins.
Illjwamh
04-13-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Senshi
also... my theory on Kakashi is he got the eye from some sorta surgery after the whole Uchiha wipeout... like Konoha had to find some way to keep the Sharingan so they made Kakashi have an operation where they took out his eye and put in an Uchiha eye... of course thats probably a little too out there...
I don't think it's too out there at all. In fact, that's pretty much my theory exactly. Look at the scar around Kakashi's left eye.
Originally posted by Senshi
plus I do think that Itachi is probably around the same level as Orochimaru...
Well, they are the only two guys who can beat you just by looking you in the eye...
Originally posted by Senshi
also... dont take Sasuke lightly either... we wont know for sure but Im still placing my bets that he will be friggin powerful after they deal with Orochimaru...
I'm placing my bets that Sasuke won't come back to our side at all. Not in this story arc, anyway.
Originally posted by Senshi
and when do you guys think we should start another thread? I mean we are at 12 pages already...
I don't think that's necessary. The one at my forums is longer than this. Besides, the thread is keeping up with current happenings in the story well enough.
jetfire
04-13-2004, 08:54 PM
What I don't get about this issue is that Naruto was able to defeat Gaara a while back. And Lee wasn't able to defeat Gaara. So Naruto started fighting the bone-sword-weilder (forget his name) and couldn't win. So Lee appears (who is weaker, since he couldn't beat Gaara, and Naruto could), to take over. Then he couldn't win. So now Gaara shows up, who was weaker than Naruto.
It just seems all the strengths of the characters are getting thrown around pretty carelessly. I mean, it's cool that Gaara showed up and all, but by all means I think Naruto would have had the best chance of winning so far. Let's just hope Gaara wins because I don't want a 4th character showing up. And if one does have to show up it should be Gai or Kakashi (who are Jounins), so they can quickly mop up the floor with the guy so the story can actually move on.
Illjwamh
04-13-2004, 10:03 PM
You're thinking about it from a DBZ perspective. It's not "character A is stronger than character B, therefore A can beat anyone B can beat, and B can't beat anyone A can't beat."
Different characters have different strengths and weaknesses, and therefore the outcome of a fight depends a great deal on who's actually fighting.
Senshi
04-14-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Illjwamh
You're thinking about it from a DBZ perspective. It's not "character A is stronger than character B, therefore A can beat anyone B can beat, and B can't beat anyone A can't beat."
Different characters have different strengths and weaknesses, and therefore the outcome of a fight depends a great deal on who's actually fighting.
Bam he hit it right there...
I mean its like the bone dude is all good at Taijutsu, so when Lee a master of Taijutsu comes along, he is able to hold his own (at least until bones start bursting from the dudes chest and sh*t)...
Naruto beat Gaara (while Lee couldnt) because when he fought gaara 1) gaara was in his transformed state so he really didnt have his "ultimate defense" anymore 2) Naruto had jutsu's to be able to work Gaara over strategy wise 3) Naruto had the frog summoning so whenever Gaara changed into the badger demon Naruto had something to counter with...
when you think about Naruto's fight with the bone dude, basically the only thing he used was Kage Bunshin... Im sure if Naruto by chance summoned crazy big frog dude he could beat bone guy... also Gaara can beat bone dude if he changes into badger demon again... its just I doubt they would do that for 1 guy who all he does is make bones
plus we still havent got to the point where gaara actually beats bone dude... (but Im sure he will cause the sand is like the perfect way to take bone guy out) I mean whenever you think about how the fight will play out its kinda like bone dude slices at gaara with bone... gaara counters with sand... gaara attacks with sand... bone tries to poke sand, sand pokes back... "DESERT COFFIN"
then again maybe bone dude will show Lee lightning speed like Sasuke did when he fought Gaara and bypass the sand... then it will be an interesting fight...
and to Demonshadows response... I donno... it could be that those ninjas are weak assed before they had the seal... also you gotta remember that Chouji and Neji basically had to do suicide attacks to defeat them...
also Orochimaru right now is weak as hell without his arms... hell I bet Konohamaru-chan could beat his ass now... the only way Oro was able to even stand his ground in the fight against the other 2 nins was that Kabuto helped him do Snake summoning, and Jiraiya was still kinda f*ed up from the mickey he was given...
Plus I really think Sasuke will come back... I mean despite the comparisons they have to the 3 nins, Sasuke is NOT orochimaru... Orochimaru is just an evil f* who wants to live forever... Sasuke on the other hand just wants enough power to defeat Itachi... Oro doesnt give a damn about anybody while Sasuke still cares about his friends...
but then again it could be that the seal pretty much did make him Orochimaru's slave, so I guess I do see how he could be evil for the rest of the story arc... we just have to keep reading and see I guess
rvx3452000
04-14-2004, 04:17 AM
yea, i think Sasuke will pull one of those "Now that i have your power, time to die" kinda moves on Oro, beat him, move on to Itachi[who i think is the bigger enemy in all this] and Naruto and them will come back, take care of everyone else, while Sasuke handles Itachi.
Aslo, why did naruto only use kage bunshin against Kimamaro? He has so many other good techniques like Rasangan, Naruto Rendan, and 1000 Years of Pain. I still don't understand why he would just stick with kage bunshin and let kimimaro hit him like that.
Lee, I guess i understand why he didn't use many big attacks, him being out the hospital and drunk that coulda really messed him up.
As for Gaara, I think he'll like barely win, we still have seen Kimimaros hidden jutsu yet[like Oros neck steching and Haku's mirrors of ice] mainly because of the seal they do to show us its a hidden jutsu. So, Gaara could pull that Dessert Coffin, maybe he'll harden his bones or whateverto the point where hey're like strong as gold.
jetfire
04-14-2004, 05:49 AM
I know different styles can be good against other styles. Just because Gaara couldnt beat Naruto doesnt necissarily mean he can't beat this new guy, but what I was saying is that Naruto should have been able to get the job done earlier. If he used all his techniques. All he did was his shadow clones, and they all just blindly charged at the guy. He's used that strategy many times, and pretty much every time he uses it (ex. against Zazuba, Neji, Gaara, and now this bone guy), it never really works.
Senshi
04-14-2004, 10:49 AM
I think the reason Naruto didnt use alot of his better attacks is 1) didnt really have alot time to fight... he woulda whipped em out eventually and 2) when you think about bone dude and his capabilities... it would be hard to land any of Naruto's moves... think about how Rasengan and 1000 years of pain... both of those require you to hit the opponent... now when like 50 shadow clones cant even TOUCH the guy, I think that pretty much says he isnt gonna just let Naruto give him a Rasengan to the face...
now if Naruto use frog summoning no jutsu... then that might work...
otherwise Id have to say Naruto personally had nothing to combat bone guy... bone guy is just too damn good at Taijutsu and Naruto has low Taijutsu... yeah Naruto has an assload of Chakra, but its no good if you cant hit him with anything... maybe when Naruto either learns a technique to combat Taijutsu or gets some mad taijutsu skillz of his own, then he could fight Bone dude easy...
animefan3214
04-14-2004, 02:33 PM
does anyone know when the anime is going to cme to america?
becuse it is my favorite manga and i have been anticpating for the anime to come.
rvx3452000
04-14-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by animefan3214
does anyone know when the anime