Naruto, the hokage!? [Archive] - Page 7

Ninja Realist

03-24-2006, 08:48 AM

Ok, I read back a little and realized I had misinterpreted some of the manga.

I guess Kakashi and Itachi are the only ones who have mastered the Mangekyou Sharingan, but Itachi's not only looks different, but it also has different abilities. As far as we've seen, the only thing Kakashi can do with his is warp things to a different location.

Itachi so far has two known Jutsu's and most likely has a third one. He can do Tsukkuyomi, which is the extremely advanced Genjutsu that can creates a kind of other reality that the Genjutsu user controls. He has Amatseru which is a ninjutsu that can burn through almost anything, and will burn for 7 days and 7 nights. It's also hypothesised that he has a third Sharingan related Jutsu named after Susanoo, because not only were Tsukuyomi, Amatseru, and Susanoo siblings, but if Susanoo was a Taijutsu, then Itachi would have an ultimate ninjutsu, an ultimate genjutsu, and an ultimate taijutsu.

Also, I've been wondering. If Itachi has such a powerful doujutsu, does the Akatsuki Leader have a stronger doujutsu to counter it?

Sigh. Only time will tell.

Senshi

03-24-2006, 10:25 AM

I'm sure the Akatsuki leader is more powerful...

Also I think that the use of "ultimate" is kind of strong... I'm sure there are limits to all of those Jutsu...

But I've been thinking about what sort of course this manga is taking... I think it would be cool to see like a battle royale of sorts with Team Konoha vs. Team Sound vs. Team Akatsuki... just all of em fighting all of each other in a crazy team deathmatch-esque scenario...

Like Sasuke is trying to kill Itachi, but Itachi is trying to get Naruto for Kyuubi, and Naruto is trying to get Sasuke to save him... but Oro attacks Naruto to get keep him away, then Akatsuki tries to kill oro, then Kabuto jumps in, etc etc

:rawr: CRAZY! :rawr:

Ninja Realist

03-24-2006, 10:27 AM

I just mean ultimate like, those are his best Jutsu in those categories.

EDIT

And I concur that three way fights are awesome. I want to see some more Akatsuki vs Oro action.

Senshi

03-24-2006, 10:33 AM

I just mean ultimate like, those are his best Jutsu in those categories.

Ah I see... yeah I'm sure if hes the boss of Akatsuki hes gotta be crazy powerful... like even more powerful than Orochimaru probably...

How do I know?

oh well... I didnt want to spoil it for you but anyways here is a picture of the Akatsuki boss:

http://www.osn.goe.ni.schule.de/kids/sj03_04/images/ssj3-goku-2.jpg
NOW I SHALL SHOW YOU MY TRUE POWER!

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-24-2006, 11:30 AM

I remember the shopped page where the 4th was the Akatsuki leader ^_^
I'm having the suspision that if Orochi or Kabuto [or Saii??] become Sasuke's closest friend, he will kill them without a second thought.
That could always give some good meaning behind his defection, that he knew he had to push everyone dear to him away so that he could aqquire the MS without killing anyone from Konoha.

Also, remember how Orochimaru said that even with the Kyuubi, Naruto may still not be as strong as Sasuke. It makes me wonder what the favorate missing-nin is capable of now B)

ps: I'd like to see Sasuke summon a dragon. Dragons make the world go round dammit :D

Natsuke Takeda

03-24-2006, 02:47 PM

Or maybe he'd summon a raven.. raven hair with an actual raven to boot... oooooo...

I seriously have the impression that Sasuke is far more powerful than Naruto right now, considering Naruto's poor performance against the most recent Akatsuki member, and also his kyuubi chakra about to be sealed. I still believe Naruto has more potential than Sasuke, but when it comes to the skills and power he has right now, Sasuke has the edge.

I could be wrong, but really, they wouldn't show Sasuke all scary and stuff if he wasn't THAT powerful.

Query: Does the Mangekyou Sharingan have different forms depending on the situation they first activated it on?

I believe yes. Itachi activated MS through killing his closest people. Kakashi.. well, I don's know. However, his MS is different, so I think that HOW the MS is created depends on the situation it was first activated in.

General Suburbia

03-24-2006, 03:59 PM

As for Kakashi, his best friend did die. The MS may be activated based on one's own perspective of events (i.e., maybe Kakashi blames himself for his friend's death, therefore believes that he was the murderer).

Also, Kakashi is not a member of the Uchiha clan. The conditions necessary to activate the MS may differ from another. This argument is strengthened when you see how Kakashi's fighting style differs from the other two sharingan-carrying ninjas. As far as I know, Kakashi's the only one who uses his sharingan to actually copy other people's techniques.

genki sakura

03-24-2006, 04:07 PM

I'm having the suspision that if Orochi or Kabuto [or Saii??] become Sasuke's closest friend, he will kill them without a second thought.
That could always give some good meaning behind his defection, that he knew he had to push everyone dear to him away so that he could aqquire the MS without killing anyone from Konoha.

That works. I agree.

Now, okay, I'm happy about Sasuke fin-a-effing-ly showing up again.

I would've really liked it though if somehow Sasuke would've appeared by putting a chidori through someone and striking a mean pose (<3 Senshi). [this could have been done by putting a chidori through Sai out of security paranoia...er....yeah...but anyway...yay! he's back...even though it was a tad bit anti-climactic, imo....though hey, it Sasuke re-appearing works for the 300].

it's started...a new phenomenon. Narusasu fans watch out... (http://www.fanfiction.net/l/1402/3/0/1/1/0/2133/2040/0/0/1/)

Natsuke Takeda

03-24-2006, 09:01 PM

Sai and Sasuke being close friends sounds interesting, maybe that way I can actually like Sai.

Though it pains me to say it, it would be very cliche for Sasuke to become a good guy again. I think him playing the main bad guy makes for a very dramatic plot.

Illjwamh

03-24-2006, 11:53 PM

it's started...a new phenomenon. Narusasu fans watch out... (http://www.fanfiction.net/l/1402/3/0/1/1/0/2133/2040/0/0/1/)

Oh dear GOD.

Well, I suppose it was inevitable.

Though it pains me to say it, it would be very cliche for Sasuke to become a good guy again. I think him playing the main bad guy makes for a very dramatic plot.
I agree, and I hope that's where Kishimoto's going. A redemption at the very end (i.e., his death) would be cool, though.

General Suburbia

03-25-2006, 12:03 AM

Though it pains me to say it, it would be very cliche for Sasuke to become a good guy again. I think him playing the main bad guy makes for a very dramatic plot.
If he does become the main baddie, and he does find some sort of redemption, he will not die. Call it woman's intuition.

Pedro The Hutt

03-25-2006, 05:35 AM

I'm having the suspision that if Orochi or Kabuto [or Saii??] become Sasuke's closest friend, he will kill them without a second thought.Eh, now why would Orochimaru befriend anyone? He who treats everyone like a mere pawn. XD Kabuto and Sai don't seem to be much better. Speaking of them, who knows, maybe the white haired boy in Sai's book is Kabuto.

I'd like to see Sasuke summon a dragon. Dragons make the world go round dammit :D Eh, if anything he'll get the snake summons passed on from Orochimaru. I mean, heck, just look at the cover of Chapter four (http://www.merehinya.com/Ped/chapter004_01.jpg), it's been hinted since the start that Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke would be the successor of their respective Sannin.

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-25-2006, 07:04 AM

Eh, now why would Orochimaru befriend anyone? He who treats everyone like a mere pawn. XD Kabuto and Sai don't seem to be much better. Speaking of them, who knows, maybe the white haired boy in Sai's book is Kabuto.

Eh, if anything he'll get the snake summons passed on from Orochimaru. I mean, heck, just look at the cover of Chapter four (http://www.merehinya.com/Ped/chapter004_01.jpg), it's been hinted since the start that Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke would be the successor of their respective Sannin.
As far as I know, its not nessasary for Orochimaru to befriend Sasuke to qualify as a sacrifice. Its got to be the person the Uciha feels closest to. You are right that Oro is certainly less likely than Kabuto or Sai though.
Sai seems to be prime candidate for dying.

kyubichan

03-28-2006, 11:55 AM

Illjwamh

03-28-2006, 04:04 PM

Zelyhon

03-28-2006, 04:06 PM

Hello....not meaning to spoil your fun and all, am not really a Naruto fan (since I really hate those fillers), but the characters and ninjutsu do interest me ^^ just wanted to ask:

1. is the Fourth Hokage Naruto's dad, or reincarnation? I always thought maybe he's some kind of reincarnation since you do need to put the thing being sealed into your body...
2. what's his name(4th hokage)? The Kanji beside him in pics read "white rabbit"

Forgive me if I'm asking stupid questions. Sorry.
Popular belief is that the Fourth is in some way related to Naruto. They claim that he sealed the Kyubi into his son.

I disagree if for no other reasons than I am so fscking tired of people claiming that it's fact and not opinion. I also have a better theory.

In Chapter 124, when Sarutobi is performing the seal on Orochimaru, he says something to the effect of "The one who is sealed and the one who performed the seal, their souls will mingle, battling each other for eternity." We know that the Kyubi is sealed in Naruto. We also know that the Fourth used the seal on the Kyubi. Thus if the souls are mingled, it can be inferred that Naruto also has the soul of the Fourth inside of him. Since the Kyubi has shown some impact upon outward appearance (the whisker birthmarks and fox-type perpetually closed eyes), I see no reason that the Fourth's soul would do any differently. Thus, some traces of the Fourth's appearance are seen as well.

On a side note, if the two souls have not fully mingled, do you think it would be possible for Naruto to find the Fourth inside himself like he does for the Kyubi? And if they are mingled, would that mean the Kyubi would have some of the Fourth's traits if it were ever to be released?

Illjwamh

03-28-2006, 04:11 PM

That's a great idea. I'd never even thought of that. It seems plausible, too. Hmm...now I'm going to have to reevaluate several of my own hypothesis.

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-28-2006, 05:27 PM

it could be used to explain the 2 chakras inside naruto i guess

Senshi

03-28-2006, 05:34 PM

I think thats an interesting theory... definitely plausible... but let me get this straight...

Is Naruto the fourth? or is the fourth simply in Naruto?

if the latter is the case then wouldnt he have 3 different Chakras for his 3 different souls?

Also just a general question... where did they get a baby from? Did they just take some orphan kid? Did the kid just pop up as a result of the jutsu...

Here is an idea:

Maybe the fourth is in Naruto, AND is Naruto is his son... crazy!

General Suburbia

03-28-2006, 05:47 PM

Is Naruto the fourth? or is the fourth simply in Naruto?

if the latter is the case then wouldnt he have 3 different Chakras for his 3 different souls?
Not necessarily. I think the blue chakra is just the "regular" chakra, one that every human is born with. We're going to assume that the Fourth was human, so Naruto's increased chakra level is just a combination of his and the fourth's. The 2nd, different chakra is from the fox.
Maybe the fourth is in Naruto, AND is Naruto is his son... crazy!
Haha, reminds me of Chinatown: "She's my sister AND my daughter!"

Illjwamh

03-28-2006, 09:27 PM

Maybe the fourth is in Naruto, AND is Naruto is his son... crazy!
I like this one the best.

And I think Bloom has it on the chakra types, too.

kyubichan

03-29-2006, 04:46 AM

I agree to some point with Zelyhon, and my theory is that Naruto is either some kind of reincarnation of the Fourth (because of the soul-thing explained by Sarutobi), or that he is The Fourth's relative (maybe brother or son). If he's the 4th's son, where's his mother? Did she get killed too or sumtyn? But I doubt that the 4th, even if he is fused with the Ninetails, will appear to Naruto since no two conscious souls can occupy the same body (like in Orochimaru's case, he sends the soul of his new body to the netherworld, right?). That would lead to Naruto being schizophrenic :P As for the Ninetails, it's made of pure chakra, technically not a soul, that's why it retains its consciousness in Naruto, right? ... eh, am not a Naruto expert, just stating some theories ^^

Senshi

03-29-2006, 05:45 AM

But I doubt that the 4th, even if he is fused with the Ninetails, will appear to Naruto since no two conscious souls can occupy the same body (like in Orochimaru's case, he sends the soul of his new body to the netherworld, right?). That would lead to Naruto being schizophrenic :P

I don't know about that... It might sort of surface when Naruto's in trouble from the Kyuubi or something...

Like I can see the the nine-tails starting to take over Naruto's body, when the Fourth sorta emerges and says something inspiring to Naruto or something of that nature...

Ninja Realist

03-29-2006, 06:09 AM

Alos, this is just a totally out there theory, but maybe Naruto IS the Kyuubi in human form. And perhaps the fourth only sealed off the Kyuubi's Chakra, and in effect, sealed off the wild, violent, nature of the Kyuubi, and what was left was Naruto. Or perhaps the sealing effect caused the Kyuubi to take on the human traits of the Fox.

Another idea I had though is that Naruto is the human incarnation of the seal. He is named after the shape which the seal takes, so perhaps he takes more than his name from it.

But these are just, the most outlandish speculation. Zelyhon and Senshi probably have an idea closer to the truth.

kyubichan

03-30-2006, 02:59 AM

hmmm....the theory about Naruto being the seal itself may be something to consider, what with his name's literal meaning and all... hey, here's a question to ponder on (even more):
>> Why does the Ninetails save Naruto from danger? If Naruto IS just a container, why does not it just let him be destroyed so that it can run amock again right? The Ninetails is not an entity that is totally dependent on a human host to gain form (unlike Gaara's summon), right?

Pedro The Hutt

03-30-2006, 07:40 AM

Actually, I think that their live's are tied, so if Naruto kicks the bucket, so will he, or something.

And I don't see why people desperate need to connect the Yondaime and Naruto. As far as I'm concerned all there is, is that he sealed away the Kyuubi inside him and died in the process, the brave sap.
Oh right, and he was the third in the line of pervy sensei. (Sarutobi, Jiraiya, Yondaime, Kakashi and most likely Naruto will become the next pervy sensei)

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-30-2006, 08:58 AM

kyubichan

03-30-2006, 10:35 AM

then how did the 4th seal the Ninetails in Naruto's body? As shown in the Sarutobi vs. Orochimaru battle, you have to hold the target in place (either with a technique or you own hands, maybe?) as the Shinigami uses your body as a corporeal vessel to bind the target... I doubt the 4th could've handled doing the technique while holding the child (Naruto) at the same time, since if Naruto is not present at the time, the Ninetails should've been sealed in the 4th's body, neh?

Zelyhon

03-30-2006, 10:53 AM

Senshi

03-30-2006, 01:46 PM

301:

We get a taste of Sasuke's new power...

While he doesnt have the Mange Sharingan, he apparently has some scary genjutsu of his own... made Sai piss his pants :vampv:

Also to quote:
Oro: "Its best not to make fun of Sasuke-kun... Hes more trouble than even me, you know.

Now I REALLY hope Sasuke v. Itachi comes soon... should definitely be interesting.

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-30-2006, 03:28 PM

Illjwamh

03-30-2006, 04:28 PM

Senshi

03-30-2006, 05:36 PM

Thats just his "I SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU WITH A SINGLE LOOK BECAUSE I'M SO SCAREY" that he's learnt from Orochimaru. Just intent to kill.

Are you sure about that? Cause:

1) its like Sai is supposed to have no emotion, so its not hard to imagine that something to overcome that will have to be some sort of jutsu... He even mentions that he had no idea what Sasuke even did to him...

2) He mentioned that he looked into his eyes... So much like the Mange Sharingan its activated when somebody looks you in the eyes

3) Is it so hard to assume that in the past 3 years, Sasuke and Oro together have worked on some sorta eye jutsu to counter Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan?

4) The 2 page spread of Sai being "engulfed" into Sasuke's eye... I dont think "intent to kill" will make somebody feel like they are being engulfed in a sea of a buncha crazy eye ghosts... Also before that page we get like a shots of Sasuke's eye, then Sai, then a closer look at Sasuke's eye - much like hes activating it or something...

5) Kabuto screams for Sasuke to stop ("Sasuke!")... In which the trance is broken, Sai snaps out of it, and notices that he is covered in sweat... I dont think "intent to kill" would call for Sasuke to stop it...

Maybe its like some sorta "Terror Mirror Wheeled eye"... While probably not as powerful as Mange Sharingan which can totally mind-**** somebody, perhaps it has some special properties of its own... like the power to make people shit themselves in fear.

I just really think if it was simply "intent to kill" Sasuke would look at him, and Sai would just get really uncomfortable maybe get a little scared... I dont think it would go to the extreme of Sai falling down because he saw a buncha crazy eye ghosts...

but maybe you have some evidence of Oro using this technique that I just dont remember...

triggerman

03-30-2006, 09:02 PM

Do you even pay attention when reading? >.>;; Yamato-sensei is the one that will seal that up some more.

And meh, I could wait for Sasuke until 2009 if need be. =D And then some. Never liked the angstbag.

seal what up...you guys are crazy i want to see sasuke so bad...not only to see whay he looks like but to see what he has learned..and i am sick of everyone talking about his agnst or whatever...i mean if your whole family was wipped out by say you uncle or brother and you saw your parents die won't you be depressed, angry, and sad..? i know that i would..so i mean sasuke's case is completely understandable to me...plus i hope that he got the mangyeko shringan by now...and if he does it is most likely the same way kakashi got his which i really want to find out how..

Master O

03-30-2006, 10:50 PM

i am sick of everyone talking about his agnst or whatever...i mean if your whole family was wipped out by say you uncle or brother and you saw your parents die won't you be depressed, angry, and sad..? i know that i would..so i mean sasuke's case is completely understandable to me..

Yea, if that happened to my family, I'd make sure when I find that person, that I'd kill that person slowly so they suffer a lot.

On a lighter note, yea, I can't wait to see Sasuke unleashed. Naruto vs Sasuke is going to be another DBZ-esque fight, but still really something to watch.

Pedro The Hutt

03-31-2006, 01:26 PM

But in the end, revenge is quite a pointless thing. It won't make his parents come back. >.>;; And it certainly isn't worth abandoning your home and friends for.

PsychoSaiya-jin

03-31-2006, 02:39 PM

Are you sure about that? Cause:

1) its like Sai is supposed to have no emotion, so its not hard to imagine that something to overcome that will have to be some sort of jutsu... He even mentions that he had no idea what Sasuke even did to him...

2) He mentioned that he looked into his eyes... So much like the Mange Sharingan its activated when somebody looks you in the eyes

3) Is it so hard to assume that in the past 3 years, Sasuke and Oro together have worked on some sorta eye jutsu to counter Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan?

4) The 2 page spread of Sai being "engulfed" into Sasuke's eye... I dont think "intent to kill" will make somebody feel like they are being engulfed in a sea of a buncha crazy eye ghosts... Also before that page we get like a shots of Sasuke's eye, then Sai, then a closer look at Sasuke's eye - much like hes activating it or something...

5) Kabuto screams for Sasuke to stop ("Sasuke!")... In which the trance is broken, Sai snaps out of it, and notices that he is covered in sweat... I dont think "intent to kill" would call for Sasuke to stop it...

Maybe its like some sorta "Terror Mirror Wheeled eye"... While probably not as powerful as Mange Sharingan which can totally mind-**** somebody, perhaps it has some special properties of its own... like the power to make people shit themselves in fear.

I just really think if it was simply "intent to kill" Sasuke would look at him, and Sai would just get really uncomfortable maybe get a little scared... I dont think it would go to the extreme of Sai falling down because he saw a buncha crazy eye ghosts...

but maybe you have some evidence of Oro using this technique that I just dont remember...
Look back to when Oro first ever appears (unmasks).
Just before Sasuke activates lvl2 Sharingan and Fights Oro looks at Sasuke and Sakura and they literally DIE from his stare.
But it was all an illusion created by their minds from fear.

The fight was a personal highlight of the Naruto anime. Before then, it was when the Kyuubi first appears in Naruto.

kyubichan

04-01-2006, 08:45 PM

@illjwamh

oh,yeah ^^ forgot bout that.hehe.tnx

Trine

04-03-2006, 01:13 AM

I need to know what Sausuke looks like after the three year point. as for Sai, I think that he'll end up doing something heroic. I mean, there has to be something about him that moves the story. then again, in most stories, situations usually get worse until after the climax. so he might end up being nother one of oro's goons. -_-.

jetfire

04-07-2006, 03:58 PM

Just read chapter 302

It wasn't much of a shock, but I'm not gonna flip out and get mad, whether Sai is a traitor or not. Who knows? He could have lied to them. If not, then oh well. They'll rough him up a bit. I'm also still pretty dissapointed that we havent seen what Sasuke really looks like yet, and I had a far fetched theory. I looked at the cover of 302, and you see a hand drawn beast behind Sai. What if that is a jinkuri (or however it's spelled. You know. The demon like Naruto's and Gaara's) inside Sai, that gives him the ability to manifest drawings into real creatures? It just seems like an unusual ability like Gaara's sand controlling power or Naruto's seperate chakras. Plus, all of these characters have been neglected from society in a way, and we still haven't seen all the other demons yet, so it could be possible. Just a far fetched guess, but I'm not completely ruling out the possibility.

Illjwamh

04-07-2006, 04:18 PM

I've got to say, I'm a little confused by this chapter. I couldn't really tell what was going on. Weird.

genki sakura

04-07-2006, 07:24 PM

DarkKanti

04-08-2006, 12:24 AM

Sai is a traitor.

Also, on a random note, from my scanlation's first page:

"I will not cry. I will not yell. I will not get angry, or resist. Do as you will, for I shall remain quiet."
(Sai was on the page)

Now tell me that there wasn't any double entendre there. Just think about the last sentence. Yes, I'm insanely immature for saying something like this. Sue me.

:XD: Gross. Funny, but still gross.

I'm also a bit confused about what's going on right now? Sai kind of admitted to being a traitor (I think he did at least) right after denying it. Weird?

Edit- @Jetfire. I thought that too at first, but upon closer inspection the demon art thingy behind Sai only has one tail and Gaara already has the one tail demon inside of him so this kind of rules out that picture being a jinkuri (?). That is true of course, unless I've been mislead about all the jinkuri having a different number of tails.

Pedro The Hutt

04-08-2006, 06:28 AM

"Jinchuuriki", and Sai is most likely not one. His jutsu seems to be a variation on a Kuchiyose (summoning) no jutsu, since he seems to slip some blood into the scroll before drawing something.

PsychoSaiya-jin

04-08-2006, 01:58 PM

Jinchuuriki? no. Most likely, there will be one for every major village.

Illjwamh

04-09-2006, 01:29 PM

That seems a little too convenient, but it's still possible.

That still leaves four unaccounted for, though.

Natsuke Takeda

04-10-2006, 06:51 AM

Chapter 302:

Gah... Disappointing chapter. No Sasuke, a whole lot of Sai, and it literally doesn't do a thing to make me like his character any more than before.

Also, is it me, or does Orochimaru not give out the same fear as before?

Kabuto: "Now he'll be saying A-types make better henchmen."

Referring to Oro making casual humor? Oh yeah.. that strikes fear.

Pedro The Hutt

04-10-2006, 05:15 PM

That's odd, in my scanlation Kabuto remarked. "Fuh...So I guess like he said, A-types are more suitable as subordinates." Which immediatly makes him take Orochimaru far less likely. Rather, just confirming a previous statement of his.
And I quite like the lack of Sasuke. XD But of course, I'm no raving Sasuke fangirl, so I have no idea how they are feeling right now.

beautiful_soul_

04-11-2006, 02:30 AM

i m glad dat sasuke wasnt in d manga.. i hate him.. he is such a stuck up prick! seriously i don't think dat he has the power against itachi... itachi rocks! i cant wait until the kyuubi comes out.. it's gona b so gd wen he does...

Pedro The Hutt

04-11-2006, 12:03 PM

Keep working on that spelling.

And judging from what Yamato-taichou is planning... we might never get to see the Kyuubi again. XD

kyubichan

04-11-2006, 12:08 PM

And judging from what Yamato-taichou is planning... we might never get to see the Kyuubi again. XD

I'm here! ^^ ahehe

Illjwamh

04-11-2006, 03:40 PM

Keep working on that spelling.

And judging from what Yamato-taichou is planning... we might never get to see the Kyuubi again. XD
That may not be a bad thing. I always thought it was kind of a cop out for Naruto to rely on the Kyuubi's power instead of his own.

General Suburbia

04-11-2006, 04:10 PM

Next cliche: The Kyuubi WILL come back, but only to control Naruto. Thus the stage will be set for a final battle with Naruto and his inner demon. Bring on the explosions!!

Pedro The Hutt

04-12-2006, 07:41 AM

That may not be a bad thing. I always thought it was kind of a cop out for Naruto to rely on the Kyuubi's power instead of his own.

Quite agreed, we don't need another "Augh, he's on the loose! Run away!" sequence. Let Naruto be kick-ass in his own way. XD

kyubichan

04-12-2006, 02:40 PM

Next cliche: The Kyuubi WILL come back, but only to control Naruto. Thus the stage will be set for a final battle with Naruto and his inner demon. Bring on the explosions!!
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well, THAT will be something uninteresting to watch.

Natsuke Takeda

04-12-2006, 09:34 PM

.. That's what I hate about translations. As Watarai from AI Buster says, translations will sometimes come out differently than what the author intended. While it's not an exact quote, that technically what he said.

...Moving along. I kind of would like to see two Akatsuki members (whoever) duke it out. Man, now THAT would liven me up. I love when two bad guys fight, it's always a shocker in some way.

One thing I'd hate to see: Sasuke beating ze shiet out of Itachi. Would be too predicatable. I'd like to see Sasuke's expression when he realize he's STILL not near Itachi's level.

edited to remove scanslation website name ~Kei

PsychoSaiya-jin

04-13-2006, 03:21 PM

What is interesting to note right now is how the Naruto+Kyuubi symbiosis compares and contrasts to that of Ichigo's character in Bleach [especially if you're up to date with the manga].

ch303 seems to bring promise. I look forward to what comes next.

Gbatdeamon

04-15-2006, 08:51 PM

Im sorry i didnt even know there is 175 chapters. I live in the country its two hours to the nearst city so im not realy not that updated.:eek5:

General Suburbia

04-16-2006, 12:22 AM

You obviously have some kind of access to the internet. With a little help from your brain and Google, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to figure something out.

Natsuke Takeda

04-16-2006, 08:42 AM

Gah.. I'm being out of subject.

She's probably accessing the internet in the city, so it's prob hard for her.

Anyways....

Sai is falling into the usual character that is "I have no emotion" and yet in the end finds emotion in the most predictable way.

Oh yes.. a real good character.

General Suburbia

04-16-2006, 03:30 PM

Sai is falling into the usual character that is "I have no emotion" and yet in the end finds emotion in the most predictable way.

Oh yes.. a real good character.
I'm pretty sure most of us saw that one coming a mile away.

General Suburbia

04-20-2006, 04:34 PM

genki sakura

04-20-2006, 06:33 PM

New chapter: Sai is as boring as ever, and Orichumara gets less threatening. From all the tension building up around Sasuke, I can be pretty sure that he will be much more frightening than Orichumaru. Kinda like the same tactic used in the movie Jaws, where you never saw the full shark until well into the middle of the movie.
dunna dunna dunna dunna

oh well, at least I tried to do the Jaws music...

anyway....

This is getting annoying. This is all sweet and all that Sai and Naruto had a little bonding moment, but have Sasuke actually interact with the other characters now. (I could anticipate a sasusaku fanfic moment and have it that it's Yamato and Sakura who find Sasuke...but nah, Orochimaru's probably gonna drag Sai and Naruto to Sasuke and Yamato and Sakura will probably be left out of the loop or something)

Itachi Uchiha

04-20-2006, 08:14 PM

Sai had a revelation about his brother and completes the picture book of their lifes... Naruto is injured and the Kyubi suppressed... Does anyone else see Sai getting killed off fighting Sasuke or Orochimaru in the near future?

Senshi

04-20-2006, 10:38 PM

Oh yeah... Sai's gonna die... its written in his cards... definitely. You just get that feeling with him... Whether its Sasuke or Oro or somebody else that kills him is hard to say, but yeah - his type of "secondary main character" typically gets "sacrificed for emotional appeal"

Illjwamh

04-20-2006, 11:58 PM

Can I just ask...what the f#&$ are they doing sitting around looking at picture books in the middle of their mortal enemy's fortress? I nominate the two of them for the Worst Ninja in the Universe Award.

And so what, is Kabuto dead now? It implied that they killed him, but it didn't actually show it. It would be pretty stupid to leave him alive, but given the other examples of stupidity in this chapter, I wouldn't put it past them.

Pedro The Hutt

04-21-2006, 06:37 AM

I'd like to see you do better when creating a manga that's been running for 6 years.

Anyhow, I had no issues with the chapter. A wee bit predictable that Sai would begin to mellow out, but still nice. And the less of Sasuke the better. XD The prat.

PsychoSaiya-jin

04-21-2006, 06:41 AM

It is a given that they're all rubbish at being ninja-like.
Orochimaru has downgraded from scarey to 'boogie-man', but a fight will be interesting nonetheless.

Pedro The Hutt

04-21-2006, 08:03 AM

But then, it's been Kishimoto's intention from the outset to not make them stereotypically ninjalike. Hence why the main character wears orange out of all colours.

Natsuke Takeda

04-21-2006, 11:13 AM

Okay, so then Sai dies.. then Naruto gets reaaaaaally angry and Naruto goes into SEED mode and-

...oops. Another victim or stereotypical dramatics.

I'm very confused of what's going to happen. So many possibilities for the next scene, yet so many ways Kishimoto will blow it. While it's likely Sai will die, I don't see HOW he will die given the last chapters left Sai doing a complete 180 degree pesonality change. He's developed more than... than... a LOT of other characters, and he's gonna be get thrown away like that.

...Holy crap, I care for Sai's well being.

It's wierd... realizing we wait week after week for another chapter that would probably take up less than 8 minutes in the anime. The fillers have gotten to a point of complete ridicule. Can't believe there's a "Filler Arc"... can't believe a Filler Arc even EXISTS.

I would be dead surprised if Naruto got his butt kicked and survived right now. He's in bad condition as it is, let's let Yamato take care of this, ne?

Better yet, let's let Sakura get a crack at Sasuke. That'll be one emotional rollercoaster; one I'm willing to stick onto.

Illjwamh

04-21-2006, 12:06 PM

I'd like to see you do better when creating a manga that's been running for 6 years.

Do better? Easy. Have your ninja characters actually act somewhat like ninja and not make mistakes that a 6 year-old playing hide-and-seek wouldn't make.

genki sakura

04-21-2006, 03:16 PM

Better yet, let's let Sakura get a crack at Sasuke. That'll be one emotional rollercoaster; one I'm willing to stick onto.
You know what, even though that might sound sorta fanfiction-y, having Sakura fight Sasuke would be something that would make my day. It'd be damn fun...as long as it doesn't screw itself up somewhere in the middle.

Pedro The Hutt

04-21-2006, 04:53 PM

Can't believe there's a "Filler Arc"... can't believe a Filler Arc even EXISTS.
Two words, Rurouni Kenshin.

Kagome654

04-21-2006, 07:53 PM

I really wish Sai would go away...without us ever finding out that his brother is Deidera or something. Bah.

Illjwamh

04-21-2006, 10:38 PM

While I know what you mean, that would be impossible since Deidara is/was a Stone Ninja. :p

PsychoSaiya-jin

04-22-2006, 07:47 AM

While I know what you mean, that would be impossible since Deidara is/was a Stone Ninja. :p
Well Sai was adopted/orphan and his brother wasn't a blood-brother. We don't know much about ROOTS members, so anything is possible.

Kagome654

04-22-2006, 02:26 PM

Your logic has no place within my bad tempered snark, Illjwamh. A pox on thee...

jetfire

05-04-2006, 09:59 AM

I just read chapter 305. It wasn't shocking at all to see Sai have this typical change of mind that many others have had, by saying something like "Naruto has inspired me to do the right thing, because I have observed his way of life". Still, I think it makes Sai a much less hated character. I certainly don't mind him. However, I doubt Sasuke is just going to get up and say "okay" to a random person, since even the closest person to him (Naruto), couldnt drag him back by talking to him or through force.

Senshi

05-04-2006, 03:14 PM

man I hate these "changes of heart"... When I was reading that Sai actually tricked Naruto to kill Sasuke I actually started to like the guy cause he was being sneaky and interesting... then after he shows his little "change of heart" it was like he went right back to just being some lame plot device to show off Naruto's personal magnetism and power to change people...

Yeah the change of heart might make him a morally "good" character, but I think it makes him terribly boring.

And if Sai could just make little mouses and find Sasuke before why didnt he instead of the two of them running around all over creation to find him...

Illjwamh

05-04-2006, 10:19 PM

Chap. 305

M. Night Shyamalan: "What a twist!"

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-05-2006, 08:12 AM

Saiiiiiii-duck!

genki sakura

05-05-2006, 10:47 AM

And if Sai could just make little mouses and find Sasuke before why didnt he instead of the two of them running around all over creation to find him...
"little mouses"...

hahahahahahahaha

Anyway, (hahaha)
well...I don't know what to think about Sai....I guess as long as the people who are intended to be evil bastards (Itachi, Orochimaru) stay evil....that's fine...because some Itachi and Sasuke bonding moment would just be "..."

Pedro The Hutt

05-06-2006, 04:56 AM

Admit it though, the Uchiha(cest?) fangirls would squeeee in delight. XD

genki sakura

05-06-2006, 09:57 AM

Admit it though, the Uchiha(cest?) fangirls would squeeee in delight. XD
Yes, but I'm not one of them. Seriously, though, "-cest" fanfics (like Uchihacest for Naruto and Elricest for FMA)...are just plain wrong...I'll read yaoi/slash/shonen-ai...but those types are just plain wrong...

Pedro The Hutt

05-06-2006, 10:26 AM

XD Quite agreed, just wrong. But whatever floats their boat I guess. =D

Regardless, I'm quite disappointed that Sai changed his objective, if he killed Sasuke he would've done many of us a favour. XD

General Suburbia

05-06-2006, 11:27 AM

I'm not disappointed because Sasuke didn't die..I'm disappointed because Sai, for a split second, seemed to be an interesting character.

Two-twenty

05-11-2006, 06:34 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/Twotwenty/sasuke.jpg

Gayer. Than. Christmas.

Kei

05-11-2006, 07:10 AM

Eh, I like that a whole lot more than his old outfits. Then again, I like baggy clothing.

Also, I hope that thing on his back is the Kusanagi sword. That would be neat if he got that.

Pedro The Hutt

05-11-2006, 07:30 AM

Hang on a minute, isn't it golden week now? >.>;;

Corpse

05-11-2006, 07:55 AM

If that's his new outfit, it's the first right thing to happen in a long while.

Kei

05-11-2006, 12:10 PM

Hang on a minute, isn't it golden week now? >.>;;

That was last week, Pedro

And yes, that is Sasuke as he appears in the latest chapter.

~Kei

Zelyhon

05-11-2006, 01:43 PM

Maybe he's trying to show off that he's started growing chest hair? XD

I think that, aside from the *really* low cut shirt, the new outfit's fine. The shirt, though, is silly. That's the only way I can really describe it. It's almost like he's trying to set himself up for the line "I am more *SEXY* than you" to Naruto before ripping his shirt off and posing like Armstrong.

Okay, maybe not, but the idea of Sasuke posing up a storm like Armstrong (complete with Sparklies) makes me laugh.

genki sakura

05-11-2006, 02:34 PM

Finally...they de-shadow Sasuke....(!!)

Hm...like the outfit, do have to say that, it's definitely a change...can really see the influence of Orochimaru's fashion sense in the belt and stuff...but Sasuke does look a heck of a lot better than Orochimaru...and haha, the chicken hair was kept...he really should be referred to as Chicken Little...Anyway...The scene is kinda funny though, just like all of a sudden whoosh de-shadowing of Sasuke(I was reading a raw so I didn't know the dialogue) and the sorta humorous pose (when you think about if he was to go all Armstrong and pose with the sparkles...hey, it could work..."This sexiness has been passed down the Uchiha clan for generations."...and Kishimoto would then officially be my hero).

Natsuke Takeda

05-11-2006, 04:45 PM

Naruto fell down running kind of added to the effect of Naruto's desire to see him. But man oh man...

Sasuke just keeps... um...

...wtf his face didn't change. Nice outfit and everything, but cmon.. add a few more mature features, ne? Other than that, nice entrance.

...Hope they don't forget about getting angry at Sai. THAT would be wierd.

Prediction: Sai tries to capture Sasuke first... again.

Thing to notice: Sasuke and Naruto are the only ones who are still officially Genin, considering Sasuke can't really take the Chuunin Exams.. as he's one wanted mother f*cker.

Pedro The Hutt

05-11-2006, 04:54 PM

You must realise that facial hair doesn't kick in with anime characters until they hit the age of 30.

genki sakura

05-11-2006, 05:35 PM

Think Kakashi has facial hair?

...then again, he might not be 30 just yet...

Natsuke Takeda

05-11-2006, 07:38 PM

I think a good example would be Charles from Eureka seveN. That's some.. rugged hair. O.o

Anyways, chapter was good, but that chapter would probably take only about 2 or 3 minutes in the anime, which kinda left me hanging.

Then again.. knowing this anime, they'd stall this scene for half the show.

....Good chapter d^^b

General Suburbia

05-11-2006, 10:16 PM

gay chapter, gay sasuke. Why does everyone think his new outfit looks good on him? He looks gay, as in GAY. And he must be an alien, because he didn't age one bit.

Illjwamh

05-11-2006, 10:33 PM

Was it just me or did this seem like the shortest chapter ever?

Thing to notice: Sasuke and Naruto are the only ones who are still officially Genin, considering Sasuke can't really take the Chuunin Exams.. as he's one wanted mother f*cker.
Just because he can't take it in the Leaf village doesn't mean he can't be a chuunin or even a jounin. He's a Sound ninja now, so he goes by their system.

Think Kakashi has facial hair?

...then again, he might not be 30 just yet...
He's not.

Two-twenty

05-12-2006, 03:19 AM

Why does everyone think his new outfit looks good on him? He looks gay, as in GAY.
So I'm not the only one, thank you. I mean, he's wearing a freaking open-chested blouse for crapsake; I can already picture the fanart.

* shudders

It better be for practical reasons like having some weird jutsu that comes out of his chest or something because, Jesus Christ, it's looks to me like it's mere fangirl baiting.

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-12-2006, 04:20 AM

So I'm not the only one, thank you. I mean, he's wearing a freaking open-chested blouse for crapsake; I can already picture the fanart.

* shudders

It better be for practical reasons like having some weird jutsu that comes out of his chest or something because, Jesus Christ, it's looks to me like it's mere fangirl baiting.
I suppose it might have practical sides to it when you consider how he transforms. No more holey-shirt for him XD

Natsuke Takeda

05-12-2006, 08:57 AM

Just because he can't take it in the Leaf village doesn't mean he can't be a chuunin or even a jounin. He's a Sound ninja now, so he goes by their system.

Unless the Sound's "system" has changed (which we aren't informed about), they would be taking the chuunin exam at the designated village it was taken in. There were Sound shinobi at the chuunin exam Naruto participated in, ne?

Plus, I haven't seen any Sound shinobi anywhere so far, at least those who are wearing the headband. Kabuto has his taken off, and Sasuke doesn't wear one period. Sasuke shouldn't even count as a sound ninja, anyways.

...Does the Sound even exist anymore? Not once since the Chuunin Exams have I seen any type of sound vibration-related move.

Pedro The Hutt

05-12-2006, 09:25 AM

Randomly: There wouldn't be anything wrong with Sasuke being gay. I can already hear the SasuNaru and SasuKabu fangirls squealing in delight. =D
But like PSJ says, it might be for practical reasons.

Natsuke Takeda

05-12-2006, 09:43 AM

I tried to think of any old Japanese eras of culture that would look at the open shirt as normal... Not even Ronin do that. There really is no other way to interpret it as...

....as...

...fanservice? woah.

genki sakura

05-12-2006, 01:46 PM

I suppose it might have practical sides to it when you consider how he transforms. No more holey-shirt for him XD
His shirt would probably still be holey because of how the wings come out of his back...then again, the shirt could perhaps fall backward when the wings come out...yeah...oh God...

* genki sakura can see the shirt falling back and swaying in the wind as the wings move...

um...anyway...wouldn't that also mean that if the shirt fell backwards, it would almost hamper his movements...I mean, wouldn't the shirt get caught between his legs or something and to take it off and throw it to the side would be kind of a waste of energy...

and I'm wondering...did Orochimaru choose that outfit for him?...like did he want to see Sasuke's bare chest?....

....

I tried to think of any old Japanese eras of culture that would look at the open shirt as normal... Not even Ronin do that. There really is no other way to interpret it as...

....as...

...fanservice? woah.

Fanservice? woah indeed.

Next Kakashi's entire face will be revealed...

I mean when Kiba was shown hoodless...ooohhh ahhhh...

Illjwamh

05-12-2006, 07:46 PM

Regarding Sasuke's apparel, you guys are fogetting one crucial detail here: he just got out of bed.

Natsuke Takeda

05-12-2006, 10:36 PM

Orochimaru: There! That's a great look! Like.. oh, my, god!
Kabuto: You were like.. totally made over!

Sasuke: ...*smiles*

Orochimaru/Kabuto: AIIIEEEE!!!!!

_____________________

...*coughs* odd vision.

...sorry.

Two-twenty

05-12-2006, 11:42 PM

His shirt would probably still be holey because of how the wings come out of his back...then again, the shirt could perhaps fall backward when the wings come out...yeah...oh God...
um...anyway...wouldn't that also mean that if the shirt fell backwards, it would almost hamper his movements...I mean, wouldn't the shirt get caught between his legs or something and to take it off and throw it to the side would be kind of a waste of energy...

Exactly. It's fan girl baiting, through and through. But I'm sure Orochimaru thinks it's FAAAAAABULOUS!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/Twotwenty/orochimaru.gif

genki sakura

05-13-2006, 08:04 AM

Regarding Sasuke's apparel, you guys are fogetting one crucial detail here: he just got out of bed.
he'd still get a holey shirt, then...

Exactly. It's fan girl baiting, through and through. But I'm sure Orochimaru thinks it's FAAAAAABULOUS!!!
Yeah, but Kishimoto officially got fangirls when he brought in Sasuke in the beginning anyway.

Natsuke Takeda pretty much summed up the scene.

Think Orochimaru drools when he thinks that when Sasuke comes out of bed flustery and all that his shirt's half open....?....

Ninja Realist

05-14-2006, 09:29 AM

Nothing wrong with fangirl baiting.

God only knows how many female costumes have been specifically geared towards fan boys. I mean look at Tsunade's outfit.

Illjwamh

05-14-2006, 01:27 PM

I think that's as much a joke as it is fanservice.

Natsuke Takeda

05-16-2006, 09:28 PM

You'd think his hair WOULD be flustery after laying down in bed... but he's got such a strong hairgel.... It's like.. you can stab someone with that hair.

...I need one of those shirts.... Fabio...

Senshi

05-17-2006, 05:54 PM

about the "Fabio"

yeah thats my impression when I first saw him... he reminded me of some romance novel cover... verdict: obvious fangirl bait. If I only had a nickel for every girl that went "Squee!" upon seeing that...

I'd have a shitload of nickels.

and yeah... I was really hoping they would fix the chicken hair but whatchagonnado... its his signature look....

Natsuke Takeda

05-17-2006, 10:42 PM

Well, I hope to see some major Naruto-gets-his-ass-kicked kicking. Or Sasuke-gets-his-ass-kicked kicking (wouldn't THAT be different) or Sakura just owning everyone or..

*gasp* Sai has a secret! Why else would Danzo send in Sai, considering he probably has a good estimate of the potential the younger Uchiha has. Sai HAS SOMETHING! Let Sai be WORTH READING!

....Let Sai have a demon, dammit. Let me care.

Or let Yamato actually fight. The guy is all support. Let'im get a crack at the chickenwuss.

And more of all in my personal opinion, let Kabuto get some scenes.

Senshi

05-18-2006, 01:37 PM

307:

nothing really of note... except Sasuke really does seem to be evil now (or at least getting there)... plus its awesome that he gets a sword...

The next chapter seems promising tho as we get to see "teh powa" hinted at in this chapter... He was able to move so fast he could close in on them in the time of a page turn!

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-18-2006, 01:45 PM

Seeing as Naruto has nowhere near recovered from fighting Orochimaru, its unlikely we'll be seeing and fighting back from him.
That sword seems to be too long ot be drawn practically fron its sheath, from that placement.
At least he still has the Uchiha crest on his back.

Given he's approaching the time when Orochimaru wil be able to use him as a container, his power should be close to that of Oro.

I'm still not quite convinced, One Piece has my affections right now.

Natsuke Takeda

05-18-2006, 01:52 PM

...this chapter felt as short as the last one.. yet I know that this one chapter alone will become 15 minutes of animation.

Nice sword... but I'm starting to feel the sudden lack of shinobi realism (APART from the fact that it wasn't as shinobi-like anyways). Also, I hate to admit it, but Sasuke looks damn cool. He reminds me of a ronin in a way.

And dare I say it? Kakashi's current team looks cool. Though I still dislike Sai, that first picture showing all four of Kakashi's substitute team gave me a good vibe.

...Sasuke has mascara on. Ugh.

Naruto's gonna show "That move"... I know it.

Illjwamh

05-18-2006, 02:58 PM

Naruto's gonna be more of a match for Sasuke than anybody thinks.

And Sakura's going to surprise everyone by leaping to Naruto's defense against her precious Sasuke-kun. If nothing else, this arc is at least allowing her character to grow up some. That infatuation with Sasuke was really just becoming annoying.

Natsuke Takeda

05-18-2006, 04:58 PM

Naruto's gotta be holding back. After all, he's been trained by Jiraiya...

...iono if that counts for anything, lol.

Senshi

05-18-2006, 05:48 PM

he can barely run to see Sasuke how is he supposed to fight him... I believe that Naruto is a match for Sasuke when hes healthy but if he can barely walk I doubt he could do much... unless he pulls some DBZ-esque "You thought I was down but now I shall show you my true power" type thing...

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-18-2006, 06:02 PM

I'd like to see Sakura doing something. Before, she'd just stand still crying. She's had an arc to show off her growth, but if she lets Sasuke kill Naruto she'd be just as useless as before.

Illjwamh

05-18-2006, 09:01 PM

She won't.

She cares more about Naruto than she ever did about Sasuke, even if she herself hasn't consciously acknowledged it yet.

And Naruto is already worn, yes, but he's got a history of pulling a second wind out of his ass when he needs it the most. He'll be worse off in the long run afterwards sure, but for now it could still work.

Natsuke Takeda

05-18-2006, 09:49 PM

Again I'll say it: in this time shift, Naruto and Sakura sure do look good together.

Seriously, there wasn't any other time than now did I really start to see the connection, probably because back then I couldn't take the relationship seriously considering their childish looks and more child-like behavior. But man.. now I just can't STOP seeing it.

I'm hooked on Naruka.... sort of... not enough to start reading fanfictions about it, considering how horrible fanfictions have become compared to the years back.

That second wind.. This time, I doubt he'll get it, considering he kinda promised not to use Kyuubi, and he's exhausted. "That" is his only trump card left.

If it's some sort of Rasengan thing, I'm going to shoot this manga.

....Look, Fabio is fast, too. ^^'

Illjwamh

05-19-2006, 11:26 AM

Well, Naruto's greatest natural boon is his stamina - even without the kyuubi. So he could get that wind and not break his word, though it does seem pretty bad for him here, I'll admit.

And I'm with you on the rasengan thing. Kishimoto's just starting to redeem himself from the retarded sh*t he pulled a few chapters ago; I'd hate for him to ruin it again.

jetfire

05-19-2006, 11:57 AM

It better not be a rasangan he can shoot. Or a beam-like rasangan. Or a giant rasangan that will engulf the enemy. Or the power of flight. Or giving every shadow clone he makes a rasangan. Yes, if it's any of those, I've lost respect for this manga.

I'd like him to get a jutsu that can be used strategically, like Shikamaru's shadow bind. I know Naruto isnt the brightest penny in the fountain, but it would lead to some interesting situations, and can show that he got a little smarter.

Or a genjutsu (which most good guys in this manga seem to lack), with an illusion that's brutality is equivalent to Itachi's, would be incredibly cool. Remember all the shadow clones stabbing Kakashi for 100 years, or something like that? Something similar would be badass. Although I can see something like that being used my Sasuke instead.

Illjwamh

05-19-2006, 01:25 PM

Saying Naruto "isn't the brightest penny in the fountain" is a very inaccurate statement. He may not be as socially intelligent as some people (understandable, considering how he grew up), and he may not be the most observant, but he's capable of understanding complex ninjutsu and performing them with little difficulty, and he's a tactical savant. Just because he's kinda goofy doesn't mean he's dumb, or even average.

As for genjutsu, I don't think so. It was never his strong point. He excels at taijutsu and ninjutsu, but I don't really expect to ever see him use any genjutsu at all, even the simple stuff. Sakura, on the other hand...

genki sakura

05-19-2006, 01:49 PM

...Sasuke has mascara on. Ugh.

Orochimaru's fashion sense has really rubbed off on him...

Orochimaru: "Oh Sasuke-kun, that purple mascara is just perfect, and when you become my vessel, you can wear my uber-spectacular purple eyeliner!"

Naruto's gonna be more of a match for Sasuke than anybody thinks.
Of course.

And Sakura's going to surprise everyone by leaping to Naruto's defense against her precious Sasuke-kun. If nothing else, this arc is at least allowing her character to grow up some. That infatuation with Sasuke was really just becoming annoying.
I'd love to see this happen. Really, as much as I like sasusaku, I'd love to see this happen. This would show real maturity if she could pull some kick-ass genjutsu out of her pocket or something that impedes Sasuke, even if just for a split second so that Naruto could get out of Sasuke's grasp. And she could also go for some sweet revenge and beat him to a bloody pulp...but that's not going to happen...

I don't think she has an infatuation in the sense of "OMG I MUST WIN SASUKE-KUN'S HEART!" but, if there is still infatuation, more of that she wants Sasuke back in Konoha. I mean, deep down she's his teammate, regardless of romantic emotions.

Watch, Sai pops into the action and between Sasuke and Naruto. And I'm going to be "That sucks."

Natsuke Takeda

05-19-2006, 01:57 PM

I don't know about Sakura... She's... purrrdy strong, and has become more of a medical-nin specialist. Though, she probably can perform moves that Kabuto can, minus the rapid cell-regeneration ability he has.

She'll probably just... paralyze both.. lol

Things I think are likely to happen, and HATE it:
-Naruto will perfom his Kage Bunshin and fail miserably at it (kinda sucks considering that move is a kinjutsu and yet everyone can defeat it)
-Sasuke will win.... unanimously

Things that would look REALLY COOL:
-Naruto and Sai perform the Shadow Windmill Shuriken move that Sasuke and Naruto used on Zabuza on Sasuke.

genki sakura

05-19-2006, 02:04 PM

She'll probably just... paralyze both.. lol

Yeah, and then she'll lecture both boys about how they've driven her up a wall for the last 2.5 years by the thought of them. And then Orochimaru can walk in, see her giving them and angry earful and sneak out saying: "Oh man, she really has taken after Tsunade."

Illjwamh

05-19-2006, 02:11 PM

I don't think she has an infatuation in the sense of "OMG I MUST WIN SASUKE-KUN'S HEART!" but, if there is still infatuation, more of that she wants Sasuke back in Konoha. I mean, deep down she's his teammate, regardless of romantic emotions.

I agree. She wants to help him for his own sake, and for Naruto's, as opposed to her own. That alone shows how much she's grown in the last two and a half years. Just because she doesn't have a mad crush on him anymore doesn't mean she doesn't still care about him as a person. And of course, there's Naruto to consider. Trying to help his friend and fulfill his promise to her is tearing him up, and she can see that. For her, this became about him (Naruto) as much as anything else that day in the hospital .

Senshi

05-19-2006, 04:23 PM

As the lone Sasuke supporter on these boards I make this statement: I hope he beats the crap out of all of them!

Mwahahaha! Evil FTW! :vampv:

genki sakura

05-19-2006, 06:05 PM

I'm a fan of Sasuke, don't get me wrong, but I'd love to see Sakura take a crack at Sasuke in the defense of Naruto and or for her own personal satisfaction. And quite frankly, as a fan of Sasuke, I really wouldn't want to see him actually become Orochimaru's vessel.

Illjwamh

05-19-2006, 06:39 PM

Senshi

05-19-2006, 07:46 PM

I don't really want to see that either. Among many other things, it would amount to a cop-out on Kishimoto's part and a real disappointment story-wise.

I hope either Naruto and/or Sakura kill him, now or later, Itachi kills him or vice-versa, or he's redeemed somehow. Or any combination of those.

so you dont think that "Naruto and/or Sakura killing him, now or later" or "Itaching kill[ing] him" wouldnt be a "cop-out on Kishimoto's part and a real disappointment story-wise"?

Instead of dealing with Sasuke's history, background, and current situation, Kishimoto simply just kills him off... Simply kills off one of the main three characters in the story (and he is a main character that is essential to the story no matter how much Naruto fanboys/Sasuke haters want him not to be)?

So lets see... hypothetically Kishimoto just has Naruto kill him now... Naruto goes all DBZ again turning 9-tail Kyuubi and absolutely destroys him... You dont think that is a cop out even though none of Sasuke's story-line has been resolved?

And besides... like Naruto himself said... How can he really be strong enough to be Hokage (which we all assume he is going to be) if he cant even save Sasuke?

Illjwamh

05-19-2006, 07:55 PM

Well, you're right. I shouldn't have said "now or later." What I really meant to say was "later, not now", but I got myself mixed up somehow.

And really, the someone-killing-him part would only be good if it was in conjunction with the him-redeeming-himself part, whenever it happened.

Senshi

05-19-2006, 08:05 PM

Yeah I see what your saying now...

I wouldnt mind him dying but it would need be a "self-sacrificing" death (a la the Haku scenario) or if like Oro succeeded in making him a vessel and Naruto was forced to do it in order to save him from a fate worse than death type of thing...

genki sakura

05-19-2006, 08:08 PM

I wouldnt mind him dying but it would need be a "self-sacrificing" death (a la the Haku scenario) or if like Oro succeeded in making him a vessel and Naruto was forced to do it in order to save him from a fate worse than death type of thing...
I agree.

Though I want to know, who wants Sasuke to actually become the vessel?

Natsuke Takeda

05-19-2006, 08:17 PM

I think the problem we have is that we have predicted nearly every outcome that can happen so much that nothing will seem to surprise us OR satisfy any side.

I think the best way Kishimoto can get himself out of this situation without pissing off anyone is to let someone die, except Naruto or Sakura.

If anyone's going to die, it might as well be Yamato-teichou. I can see many ways his death can build up the plot, considering his strong connection to the Shodaime and him being Naruto's best ticket to controlling his demon. Yamato's death can also open up many doors on Konoha's past, especially on Naruto's origins and birth.

Sai, on the other hand, is starting to grow on me a bit. I still hate his cliche guts, but he actually fits as the third party member to Team Kakashi. Whether Sai's story is overly common or not, I believe Kishimoto did a good job on him, even if it IS cheesy.

...Though, he did develop a bit too fast for my taste.

Illjwamh

05-20-2006, 04:07 PM

Or you never know, it could be a stand-off.

But where would they go from there?

Sasuke: Hmm. I can't beat you, yet you can't beat me either.

Naruto: We'll just go, then.

Sakura: Yeah, I've got lunch with Ino planned tomorrow afternoon.

Sasuke: All right, see you later, then.

Senshi

05-21-2006, 01:57 PM

I think the best way Kishimoto can get himself out of this situation without pissing off anyone is to let someone die, except Naruto or Sakura.

I think Kakashi is gonna die... For one, hes Sasuke's "good" sensei and mentor (opposed to Oro the "evil" sensei) and is kinda representative of Sasuke's "good" side. If you ask me, Kakashi, more than anyone else (Naruto and Sakura included) feels responsible for Sasuke's turn. He was his teacher and mentor, and was the one who first tried to turn Sasuke from the dark path. He failed however, and I think that really bothers him (even though in typically Kakashi fashion its impossible to tell)...

Basically I think he is gonna die trying to save Sasuke from himself, and his death basically will lead to Sasuke's redemption. I really think somebody is gonna need to die before Sasuke realizes what he is doing, and we know Naruto and Sakura arent going to, and Sai and Yamato dont have a personal connection to him that is necessary. With his death Sasuke will kinda go into a sort of "madness" that Naruto is then able to save him from (cause in his current mindset I really dont think anything Naruto tells him will get through). Of course all of this would occur way way way down the road...

I donno thats just the speculation on my part... but I always had a feeling he was gonna die somewhere down the line (even before the Oro plotline) cause hes a character thats in that "secondary but still important" position where characters usually get sacrificed.

Whatever the case is, I hope it doesnt end up like the ending of Gundam Seed... I still remember that one cause its like the creators tried their best to kill off as many characters as possible at the end...

Natsuke Takeda

05-21-2006, 05:06 PM

While that's true, I believe that Kishimoto should stray away from any event that will affect Sasuke's feelings other than Naruto or Sakura. The only reason I say that is because I've suddenly noticed that almost all story arcs have had an equal if not more than enough focus on Sasuke's development. While Sasuke plays a vital role in Naruto's life, I've started to get the feeling that we've been strayed away from the true focus: Naruto.

So far in most of the series, I get the feeling that most eyes are on Sasuke. Plus, Sasuke has become more of a rounded character considering his constant changes as opposed to Naruto, who makes me feel that his character is flat, since I see almost no development at all. So far, the only thing that makes Naruto "different" would be that he has friends; people who he wants to protect. But even that was a predictable result from the start as opposed to Sasuke, where it was difficult to predict what would happen to him next.

That's why Yamato should bite the dust, considering so far he hasn't had any personal contact with Sasuke (even Sai had some contact), and it would FINALLY give a much bigger effect and a MUCH larger focus on Naruto.

Naruto really hasn't changed a lot. I don't see any significant change into maturity, much less ANY significant change at all. Although the focus is on Sasuke, I believe the best way to continue this story is to develop Sasuke and Naruto's relationship and not have anyone else interfere.

Now of course, Sakura plays the next part. If she does open up her true feelings for Naruto, that too will focus on Naruto's development and also effect Sasuke at the same time. But I think it'll have more of an effect on Naruto, who seems to have lost that huge child-crush on Sakura and would not expect it. Sasuke would be effected by having the feeling that Naruto has something that makes everyone and everything gravitate towards him, and perhaps if he were to think about joining Naruto once again, he would find the true power he lacked using another method, as Kakashi had done to step his Sharingan up another level.

Though, now that I think about it, Itachi said you must kill your closest friend, AND Kakashi recieved the Sharingan before Obito died, so Itachi's method MIGHT BE the ONLY WAY.

But who knows? The Sharingan might have an even more powerful form.

Illjwamh

05-24-2006, 03:39 PM

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-24-2006, 08:55 PM

You know what I just noticed/remembered? 306 gives us conclusive proof that Naruto's gonna get the jump on Sasuke. This image is right before Naruto joins up with Sakura and Yamato and they discover Sai and Sasuke:

[IMG]http://www.dbzoa.net/illjwamh/02.jpg
That's what I'd thought myself, but I was keeping that card close to my chest.
Also, I've assumed Naruto would've had then sense to try that several times before and he's always failed.
He's had flashes of brilliance, like when fighting Neji and Kakashi, but he's still an idiot :)

[edit] is it possible to spoiler-tag that image? not everyone is up to date with the latest scans.

Illjwamh

05-24-2006, 09:03 PM

No spoiler tags, but you have to click on it now. View at own risk.

Though you really shouldn't be posting in this thread if you're not caught up anyway...

Senshi

05-25-2006, 07:42 AM

308:

saw the raws and read some people's translations...

all I can is nucking futs.... wow... that last part...

I dont wanna spoil too much for the people who havent seen it yet since Ive gotten in on it kinda early but yeah... wow... the last part of the chapter...

SASUKE MEETS THE KYUUBI!!! He gets all into Naruto's head using his Sharingan... plus "full body chidori" AND chidori powered kusanagi sword? yeah Sasuke is definitely back. Even the Kyuubi is like "wow youve grown alot"

Lol I definitely wanna talk about some speculation when you guys read the chapter...

Natsuke Takeda

05-25-2006, 09:49 AM

.....I didn't even see that coming.

Guess Kishimoto is one step ahead of everyone. But if we were already one step ahead, he must be two steps ahead! Wow!

Great chapter:

I don't know about you, but I think Kyuubi might get pwned next chapter. Or perhaps Sasuke might seal Kyuubi even more? Notice how the necklace Naruto had was taken off, so I'm guessing that whatever happens, Yamato can't stop it considering that necklace was his connection (right? I forgot what the necklace did again) to Naruto.

DAMMIT! I thought Yamato was gonna die! I was so close!

Senshi

05-25-2006, 12:33 PM

DAMMIT! I thought Yamato was gonna die! I was so close!

Lol you were it was a good guess... but he got hit in that non-vital shoulder area that people seem to get hit alot in movie/mangas/etc :p

but anyways now that the chapter is starting to show up places I think ill start talking about speculation... Spoilers ahead if you havent read it yet...

about the whole Sasuke/Kyuubi scene... I think his sharingan obviously has some sorta mental powers now... it was first hinted at with the scene where Sai first sees him and he uses the Sharingan to scare the bejesus outta him... now PSJ suggested that it was just "intent to kill" (which might be true) but now with this scene I think there is evidence that Sasuke's Sharingan has some sort of "mind altering" ability to it...

And for those who may be thinking that "Sasuke just uses the Sharingan to see the kyuubi" you have to remember that Sasuke and Naruto (And the Kyuubi for that matter) had a conversation together, which obviously was happening all inside Naruto's head... so Sasuke obviously had some sort of "presence" inside Naruto's head...

And going back to my point about Kakashi, I wonder what Kakashi would think when he learns that Sasuke was able to create Chidori from his entire body thus improving his one "original technique"?

also, at least Sakura tried to be useful this time, so props to her I guess (even tho she gets Yamato skewered)

PsychoSaiya-jin

05-25-2006, 02:22 PM

Knowing Sasuke and his thrist for power, I wouldn't be suprised if he had a little Kyuubi-theft in mind.
It would certainly explain why he let Naruto live when Mangekou Sharingan was a short stabby-stabby away.
Who needs sore-eyes when you can have a demon spirit WMD? XD

ps: senshi, shuffle has shown me that your sig goes well to Haddaway - What Is Love

Illjwamh

05-25-2006, 03:54 PM

I wanna know how the hell Sasuke managed this little stunt of his. I mean, as far as I know, the Yamanaka family should be the only ones with even a remotely similar ability. Did he perhaps steal it from them? Or is it something Orochimaru taught him? Or is it just genjutsu? Wtf?

jetfire

05-26-2006, 01:52 PM

I can only see Sasuke going into Naruto's mind to obtain the Kyuubi for his own power, to defeat it, or to make it consume Naruto (which will make him go absolutely crazy and kill everyone else, while Sasuke escapes). Probably will be one of the first two.

And Sasuke's body-releasing chidori power reminds me of Neji's spin attack, involving his chakra. I hope Naruto doesnt do the exact same thing, only with the rasangan. As for Kakashi, I bet he feels like a noob, since Sasuke got better than him at his own technique. Unless Kakashi has some advanced form that he hasn't revealed yet.

Oh, and I know this is a little off-topic. Normally, I hate the Naruto filler in the anime, but the last episode (I think 186) had a pretty priceless moment. Shino laughing like a madman. I never expected him to laugh, or at least looking so nutty while he did it. I also didn't ever expect to see his mouth. I found his facial expressions to be damn funny. What did everyone think of that , if you do in fact, still watch Naruto from time to time (Is that better General Suburbia?).

General Suburbia

05-26-2006, 05:01 PM

Oh, and I know this is a little off-topic. Normally, I hate the Naruto filler in the anime, but the last episode (I think 186) had a pretty priceless moment. Shino laughing like a madman. I never expected him to laugh, or at least looking so nutty while he did it. I also didn't ever expect to see his mouth. I found his facial expressions to be damn funny. What did everyone think of that?
Wouldn't know. No one watches Naruto anymore.

edit: You said you knew my what I said was a joke. Why get so defensive about it?

jetfire

05-26-2006, 05:08 PM

Wouldn't know. No one watches Naruto anymore.

Yes, I am aware that the filler sucks (as I have mentioned by saying I usually hate the filler), I get the joke, and I like how you use this statement in everyone's place. I know this is a manga forum, and I know the manga is better. I just happened to catch that episode to kill time, and I found a certain part of it to be funny. If you didnt watch the episode (or even the anime) at all, then there's no point in saying anything, is there? Because the fact that the filler sucks is obvious to anyone who even watches anime. Anyways, this is kind of getting off topic. I only meant to ask about this, to anyone who has seen the episode, as well as already having something to say about this current manga chapter.

edit: You said you knew my what I said was a joke. Why get so defensive about it?

The only reason that I made my paragraph longer than usual was to clarify what I was asking everyone. I figured that the way you mentioned that noone watches Naruto anymore, would just defer people away from the little question I asked. Basically, I was expecting to hear your type of response a few times from other people, and it just frusterated me a bit that some people can't answer a question like that directly, instead of joking about it. Which in turn, usually causes everyone else to joke instead of answering the question. And in due time, it can become endless spam and arguing. I'm not getting defensive about the fact that you don't like the Naruto filler, but I'd rather avoid having multiple posts of people agreeing with you on the fact that the Naruto filler sucks (which is already an obvious fact), instead of just answering a simple question that I asked (which noone even has to answer if they don't have anything to say). Like I said, this is really getting off-topic. If anyone who has seen Shino laughing in that episode, and wants to mention something along with talking about the manga, go ahead. If not, then oh well. It's not a matter of life and death for me anyway to know what everyone thinks.

Illjwamh

06-01-2006, 11:39 AM

Man, 309 is another chapter that seems really short. And nothing really happens. I'm kind of disappointed.

Kei

06-01-2006, 12:21 PM

309 confirmed it, I am done with Naruto.

Tell me when something, anything happens.

~Kei

jetfire

06-01-2006, 01:28 PM

So Sasuke also has a "THAT" technique. Can anyone say RasanganX2 vs ChidoriX2? I pray to god that this isnt the most kishimoto can come up with.

Illjwamh

06-02-2006, 12:38 AM

He's had to come up with too many jutsu for too many different characters. He done fried his brain.

Senshi

06-02-2006, 12:45 AM

cant really blame him in that respect... happens to the best of them I suppose...

But I found it interesting that Sasuke nor Orochimaru is powerful enough to kill Itachi (which I guess shouldnt really be a surprise considering Itachi can take out 3 Jounin's without flinching)... they must combine forces and activate wondertwin powers to defeat him (supposedly anyways)...

The end does make you wonder where they go from here tho... They go back to Konoha? They go to akatsuki? They jump into a cab and say 'follow that purple wisp of smoke!"?

I'm kinda with Kei on this one... they FINALLY find Sasuke but nothing gets accomplished...

Kimura-san

06-02-2006, 05:18 AM

Gotta agree with this, Sasuke isnt permanently coming back for a long time yet.

I know that people say the manga now is better than the filler anime, but its been a bit of an uphill after 4-tail naruto beat orochimaru every which way. I think probably the japanese fans wanted a glimpse of Sasuke or else they'd have lost interest. This isnt going to be over quick.

As regards Itachi, he is the reason orochimaru left the Akatsuki, so if orochimaru is scared of him, i fail to see how Sasukes gonna get his revenge without some kind of miracle (or about another 200+ volumes). Especially if the Akatsuki succeed in extracting ANY of the tailed spirits.

Think this is going the way of Naruto getting madder and madder, more and more tails until the 9th breaks the seal altogether, releases kyuubi on whoever the hell is around (as a possessed Naruto or not - and i do hope Sasukes around to get pulverised). As kyuubi is stronger than orochimaru, itachi AND the Akatsuki, i think he'll be the main, FINAL bad guy.

PsychoSaiya-jin

06-02-2006, 05:43 AM

These chapters are going to look terrible when the anime finally catches up :(

Natsuke Takeda

06-02-2006, 08:48 AM

Chpt. 309

Absolutely uninteresting.

This guy... made me wait this long.... to see Sasuke....

....in a conversation.

A CONVERSATION.

For the past.... FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS, we finally see Sasuke, and the only thing we know about Sasuke is that:

-He's fast (no duh)
-He has a new Chidori (no sh*t)
-He can see Kyuubi (While it WAS cool, I now think the Sharingan in full of BS. What CAN'T it see anymore?!)
-He can put Kyuubi back in its place. (I should slap whoever gave Kishimoto that idea. And if it's just Kishimoto, I'll slap him, too)
-He has "that" move. (F*ck that.)

God.... wtf. This manga is getting frustrating.

Illjwamh

06-03-2006, 02:54 PM

To quote one of my favorite comic strip characters of all time:

"If something doesn't happen here soon, I'm gonna wack out."

A cookie to anyone who knows who it is, by the way.

genki sakura

06-03-2006, 08:32 PM

How is Sasuke going to show up next time?
I want to see him randomly throw a red rose that sticks the landing on the ground and have exotic music playing in the background as his belt...or whatever that piece of clothing is swaying in the wind as he leans on that big ass sword. All he needs is a masquerade mask and a top hat and tada...

Two-twenty

06-04-2006, 02:16 AM

To quote one of my favorite comic strip characters of all time:

"If something doesn't happen here soon, I'm gonna wack out."

A cookie to anyone who knows who it is, by the way.
Pul~eeeeze. Calvin & Hobbes. :D

Senshi

06-09-2006, 12:31 AM

310:

I honestly have nothing to say about this chapter...

...which says something about this chapter.

Illjwamh

06-09-2006, 09:23 AM

Pul~eeeeze. Calvin & Hobbes. :D
Right on. :thumbup:

This only thing about this chapter is that it's an obvious end to the current story, which means 311 will start us off on a whole new arc. This is good because it means we might get to see some of the other chraracters again who have so far only made cameo appearances in Part 2.

jetfire

06-09-2006, 08:07 PM

At least they got the classic 4 man team (including a mentor/jounin) back. Personally, I find the Naruto/Sai/Sakura/Yamato team much more interesting than the Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/Kakashi team.

And I hope the next arc makes use of the other teams, like Hinata/Kiba/Shino, Shikamaru/Ino/Chouji, and Neji/Lee/Tenten. Although I'd like to see the first two teams first, since Neji's team has already been used once.

Dreamescape

06-09-2006, 11:52 PM

I'd love to see Sasuke become the vessel. He can be pushed over the edge with Naruto killing Itachi (the Akatsuki that Oro and Kabuto want killed off) instead of Sasuke. Then the only way he could be saved would be to kill Sasuke. The last frame could be a fast forward to when Naruto is Hokage and him and Sakura are both standing over the grave with the the carved names on the tombstone.

Or whatever happens, Naruto ends up with Hinata. It's all the same. *crosses fingers*

Seeing the other characters in the upcoming chapters would be real cool though. That's what I like about the fillers. They may suck, but at least they make use of their huge cast mixing up the teams and stuff. The "Shino Laughs" episode wasn't that bad either, was it? Bleach could take a page in that department.

Natsuke Takeda

06-10-2006, 12:41 PM

Or.... we can have a Yondaime arc, featuring none other than Yamato as a narrator and finally getting some insight on Naruto's origins. It could be a story told during thier trip to the mission.

Or maybe Naruto will finally be open about his demon towards everyone else, and we'll finally see what happens.

Although it may be dumb, I really would like it if Naruto was indeed the son of the Yondaime. I believe it's a fitting origin for him because it's come to the point where I really want Naruto to have something other than his Kyuubi roots that he can be proud of.

I'd like to see how Gaara is doing as well without his demon powers.

But most of all, I just really want answers to the Yondaime/Naruto connection. It's perhaps the single thread that still connects me to the series so strongly.

Dreamescape

06-11-2006, 02:00 AM

Or maybe Naruto will finally be open about his demon towards everyone else, and we'll finally see what happens.

But most of all, I just really want answers to the Yondaime/Naruto connection. It's perhaps the single thread that still connects me to the series so strongly.

Agreed. Even though it was kind of early in the anime, I thought it would have been ill if right after Naruto beat Neji in the Chuunin exams he would have shown him his "curesed seal". Then he could have delivered the "You're not the only one special" line. Or something to that nature. Also, instead of supressing the nine-tails I hope they have Naruto find a way to completely fuse the two chakras together giving him the only purple chakra. I guess it would be a little cliche for him to "overcome his demons" so to speak. But I liked the idea of Sakura, a med-nin, not being able to heal herself from the nine-tails wound but Naruto somehow instinctively "purifying" himself of the "other" chakra.

I'd like the know the connection between the 4th and Naruto as well. It seems a bit odd that some random kid would be chosen to house the Nine-tails. Who's going to volunteer their kid for that? The 4th? And who would be the mother?

[-=[montney]=-]

06-11-2006, 05:53 PM

Well really Naruto's two chakra's will fuse. According to Orochimaru when he put the five pronged seal on Naruto at the second stage of the Chunin exams. But then later on is removed by Jiraiya due to it disrupted his flow of chakra. But yes I also would like to know why the fourth chose Naruto. Well it said that Naruto was a orphan. Maybe his parents were killed by the nine tailed fox. Now that would be an interesting plot twist.

General Suburbia

06-12-2006, 09:26 PM

=-]']Maybe his parents were killed by the nine tailed fox. Now that would be an interesting plot twist.
No, that would only confirm what everyone already predicted.

[-=[montney]=-]

06-12-2006, 10:32 PM

Yeah you have a point, thought it wouldn't be interesting if everyone knows it.

Natsuke Takeda

06-15-2006, 08:36 AM

Chpt 311

I'll be damned.

I actually have grown to Sai, lol. He's much more better than emo-bishisuke lol. The dude has really got me, and that's because Kishimoto seems to have given us a more interesting outlook in the "I am alone and show no emotion" role. For once, we have the loner actually trying to make friends, compared to Sasuke's cliche way of "slowly opening up from badass to brother" role.

Sai is real cool guy. I give him a thumbs up, for he.... *shines* Is Youthful!

Plus I really like what they're doing with his character. And holy crap he BLUSHES! lol Emosuke's turning into a great villian, though.

Quite a shock in this chapter. Naruto going to surpass Kakashi? Isn't Naruto a Genin still? Also, after all the hype of Kakashi's Mangekyou Sharingan variation, Naruto's going to surpass even that? While that's cool, that's also kinda lame. Kakashi is soon becoming less important as the story progresses. Then again, I already predicted that when then the Naruto II arc started.

P.S: We need some more Naruto/Sakura time. Seriously, the way this manga is going, they'll be dating and we wouldn't even know it. lol

DarkKanti

06-15-2006, 09:03 AM

Well, he said Naruto "might" surpass him. So, I'm guessing that even if he does it won't be by much and they'll be on more or less the same level. I do understand your concern though. If Naruto gets too powerful, the rest of the cast may fizzle out just because they become useless in a sense.

Sai is starting to grow on me as well. He's a bit socially awkward, but that's to be expected of a long-time recluse.

[-=[montney]=-]

06-15-2006, 01:42 PM

Well in retrospect, it would be easy for him to surpass Kakashi. Event with his Mangekyou Sharingan. Due to both Jiraya's, Kakashi's, and Iruka's teachings plus the nine tailed fox. (and they implied physical and mental strength) But what I dont get is:
The Mangekyo Sharingan has they ability to trap its target in a genjutsu like state, that is controlled by the user. But now after reading Naruto manga chapter 275 Kakashi develops a Mangekyo Sharingan that has a different ability some kind of A dimensional warp. But then how is it possible for Kakashi to develop the Mangekyo Sharingan without killing his best friend. As stated by Uchiha Itachi. So how would that be possible? I have a theory about how The Mangekyo Sharingan developed differently than Itachi's: Itachi actually killed his best friend. But then that brings up the statement that Itchi made, that you can only get the Mangekyo by killing your best friend. But then I have another theory: It is debated that Uchiha Madara also has the Mangekyo Sharingan due to he and Uchiha Saskue were the only two to survive. And because of the theory that he dose I think that the Mangekyo develops differently in each person. But since so little is known of Uchiha Madara I can't confirm that. Which brings us back to the topic of how it could of been developed in Kakashi especially because he is not part of the Uchiha clan and why it has different abilities.
There are you happy now Kei? The sub-topic changed so I could post it on this thread.

Dreamescape

06-15-2006, 02:50 PM

At this point in the manga, Naruto still being a genin just means he hasn't passed the Chuunins yet. In fact, he's only taken them once which was even cut short because of the ambush on Konoha. He was already stronger than all the other genin and beat Neji who's already become a Jounin and Gaara who is now the Kazekage. Then being trained for almost 3 years straight by a Ero and now he's about to recieve Kakashi's special training. So his strength shouldn't be that much of a concern.
It would almost be fitting for Naruto to recieve Kakashi's training and to become stronger than him to whoop Sasuke's @$$. Sasuke first got Kakashi's training so he'd stand a chance against Gaara, who in the end had to be beaten by Naruto. This prompts Sasuke to seek power from Orochimaru. So Kakashi gives Naruto training this time which he uses to beat some sense into Sasuke. Damn the irony.

As far as Kakashi's MS goes, if you accept the idea that you must kill your best friend in order to obtain it, then Kakashi could have gotten it because he feels responsible for the death of Obito. Which would explain why the side story was placed where it was and then revealing that Kakashi had gained a new Sharingan. Uchiha Madara? Well, you'd have to be pretty damn strong to take out the whole Uchiha clan by yourself. Itachi is pretty damn strong, but it would make the job a whole lot easier if you had some help.That could have been provided by Madara who would have taken out his best friend in the process, assuming his best friend was part of the Uchiha clan.

Oh yeah, Sai was definitely entertaining in this chapter. Sakura-Hag Brutal honesty. lol.

General Suburbia

06-15-2006, 02:56 PM

Why are we all using spoiler tags?

Mana

06-15-2006, 03:04 PM

Why are we all using spoiler tags?

It's like whispering. If you're talking to someone, and they start whispering, it's most natural to start whispering back, and once you've been whispering for a while, your regular voice sounds loud and harsh.

Seeing as this is a completely spoiler-based thread, though, from a mod standpoint, I wouldn't care if people stopped using spoiler tags, as long as the first post is editted to let people know that there are spoilers ahoy.

Not that it really matters, you know, since most of the thread doesn't have spoiler tags at all. Probably still should be editted in so someone reading the American release doesn't come in and go "WTF!?"

PsychoSaiya-jin

06-15-2006, 11:58 PM

W00 more training!

Natsuke Takeda

06-16-2006, 08:30 AM

They might as well train. It's not like they have anything better to do. OTHER THAN MAKE NARUTO RANK UP.

It DOES matter that Naruto's still a Genin. What is the purpose of these ranks now? I mean come on, if you were a ninja, wouldn't you find it odd that a person stuck in the Genin class has surpassed his Jounin sensei? Let along that sensei being the Sharingan user, Kakashi? Wouldn't that upset the balance of the ranking system? I can understand Emo-bishisuke's situation since he's a missing-nin now, but Naruto's never going to become Hokage if he's a Genin forever. And Kishimoto would only pull an assumed double (and a cliche one) if he automatically made Naruto the Hokage without at least making him a Jounin (which I can pretty much guess Gaara did, hence my "assumed double").

I'm also fixed on the idea that Genin are INEXPERIENCED ninja who have yet to hone their skills and technique. Naruto's wayyy beyond that, and the thought of him staying as a Genin doesn't do him justice. People will only think that Naruto's fallen behind everyone else, even if his skills say that he hasn't missed a beat.

Hell, make him a hunter-nin. THAT would be interesting. He could search for Sasuke as long as he wants, and he'd be reflecting Haku.

But more training, more Naruto getting stronger, more "strongest Genin EVER".

....Rasengan/Chidori mix, anyone?

Illjwamh

06-16-2006, 11:31 AM

Thank god we're done with the spoiler tags. The entire freaking thread is a spoiler.

Anyway, I was somewhat pleased and amused with 311. I agree with NT's assessment, and am indeed finding myself liking Sai a lot more than I ever thought I would, and a lot more than I ever liked Sasuke.

As far as Naruto and Sakura go, the way this manga is written, they could already be dating and we don't know. :p

Dreamescape

06-16-2006, 12:05 PM

If you can accept Sasuke still being a genin despite his skills, then you can accept Naruto still a genin despite his skills since they've been in the same situation the past 2 1/2 years. They've been away from the village training. Granted he could have taken it when he got back since the village was holding one. But Gaara was taken by Akatsuki and he had to leave again, even if just for a short while.

[-=[montney]=-]

06-16-2006, 02:04 PM

Well technically Saskue isn't apart of Konoah anymore unless you count being a missing nin. Thus he's not a Ninja for any village. So he has no "real" ninja rank.

genki sakura

06-16-2006, 04:19 PM

As far as Naruto and Sakura go, the way this manga is written, they could already be dating and we don't know. :p
Yeah, Sai walks into a room one day and sees them kissing...

And then I'll look to the side, smile, and slam my head on the keyboard...I'm sorry, I think narusaku is a great relationship when it comes to friendship...but still...I'm a sasusaku fan...Xl

Or, Sakura could have some other boy who no one has any idea about...you know, Sai gets into an accident and then he gets replaced by Sakura's boyfriend, whom you don't know is her boyfriend until he's introduced...

Anyway...

Watch, because Naruto's going into training, he's gonna get the chidori, or some suped up chidori...

Naruto getting the mangekyo? Unlikely, if you remember that he isn't Uchiha, and he doesn't even have an implanted Uchiha eye like Kakashi (which is most likely why he was able to even attain the mangekyo). So unless, the story turns into something where Kakashi has his Sharingan eye implanted into Naruto, I don't think Naruto will attain the Mangekyo. And unless there is some other hidden Uchiha, it's highly unlikely that Naruto could get the eye from Sasuke or Itachi.

Natsuke Takeda

06-16-2006, 08:59 PM

=-]']Well technically Saskue isn't apart of Konoah anymore unless you count being a missing nin. Thus he's not a Ninja for any village. So he has no "real" ninja rank.

That's the exact reason I understood emo-bishisuke's being Genin; he's not techically Genin since Missing-nin means you have no rank.

As for Sai seeing them make out, I'd pay just to see how he'd react.

"If this is friendship, I'd like to join too."

Better yet if Sai saw them :Hump: and said that!

lmao!!!

*coughs* Anyways...

I doubt Naruto will get ANY kind of Sharingan, because I'd kill Kishimoto for that.

I will say one thing, though. I do like Naruto finally being focused as "Me. Naruto" rather than "Us. Kyuubi and Naruto." While I do believe THAT's cliche (since we all knew it was gonna happen one time or another), I finally get to see Naruto try and fight the important battles without his demon.

I'm still waiting for Yellow Flash, lol. I don't know if it will come, but I sure am hoping.