Naruto, the hokage!? [Archive] - Page 6

Senshi

12-16-2005, 07:21 PM

Didnt the hooded character show one long blonde/grey strand of hair coming out from the hood, or is that the background? Because Sasuke has black hair (except when transformed, which I dont think he would have needed to do).

I donno... I couldnt really tell any hair... maybe my raw is bad quality...

but looking at it again I see what your talkin about, but I just thought that was part of his hood... like the white is the rim of the hood and the black is like the inside of the hood where its dark... but I see where youre coming from...

Im gonna have to look at it again when I get a better quality scan...

but I guess the biggest reason why I think its Sasuke is 1) the face looks kinda "pretty boy-esque" from what we see of it... and 2) the shoes... but then again all the people in this manga where those sandal things so that really isnt any indication either...

Perhaps we should start a betting pool on wether or not we'll get to see the spy before the end of the year or not. XD

Here is my bet what is gonna happen... like a week before new years we are gonna see the spy... hes about to be revealed!

Then Kishimoto goes on a month long vacation...

DarkKanti

12-16-2005, 08:09 PM

Didnt the hooded character show one long blonde/grey strand of hair coming out from the hood, or is that the background? Because Sasuke has black hair (except when transformed, which I dont think he would have needed to do).

Also, did we just see Naruto creating a rasangan in Sai's hand there? That's pretty messed up. I don't know how Naruto found out Sai could do it as well, and don't know where Sai got the training, since Jiraya was the only one who could do it prior to Naruto. Unless of course, Naruto just used a clone and disguised it as Sai.

I think that peice of hair you saw was the other side of the hood. And, Sai can't do the Rasengan. That was Naruto and his Shadow clone that had transformed into Sai.

Pedro The Hutt

12-17-2005, 03:00 PM

Which is why Sai stopped cooperating with Naruto because that, to him, ruined the entire disguise since Yamato-sensei would obviously know that Naruto is the only one who knows that "pretty technique".

He has a bit of a point. XD Naruto should stop spamming Rasengan at every given oppurtunity, or at least learn to do it without the help of a Kage bunshin, you'd think that two and a half years of training would've settled that. XD

DarkKanti

12-17-2005, 03:11 PM

He has a bit of a point. XD Naruto should stop spamming Rasengan at every given oppurtunity, or at least learn to do it without the help of a Kage bunshin, you'd think that two and a half years of training would've settled that. XD

Once he learned the Rasengan once, he probably stopped trying to do it without a Kage Bunshin. I mean, he can do it so he probably never even thought of improving it. Although it would be nice to see him using it by himself.

Pedro The Hutt

12-17-2005, 05:06 PM

Well it'd certainly be a chakra saver if he didn't need to summon a Kage bunshin PLUS the Rasengan, and it would make the technique more versatile if he didn't need a tagalong. XD

But I do wonder what those years of training have done for Naruto other than a new perverted jutsu and the latest THAT jutsu which he musn't use. =O

DarkKanti

12-17-2005, 05:08 PM

But I do wonder what those years of training have done for Naruto other than a new perverted jutsu and the latest THAT jutsu which he musn't use. =O

I'm hoping THAT jutsu gets used soon. Naruto really needs to start showing off what he's learned in the past 2.5 years. I mean everybody else has gotten noticably stronger. And, he went off training for that entire time and has yet to show any real improvement other than his cool new outfit.

isolatedotaku

12-18-2005, 08:56 PM

Just caught up!

Thoughts on Sai: From his first dialogues with Naruto (especially while Sai is drawing) are hilarious. He is an awesome Anbu-in training that reminds me of the Elder Uchida brother, while his wit and actions towards Naruto make him a perfect swap for Sasuke.

Thoughts on Yamato: I'm not really feeling anything special for this guy, although his skills seem on par (if not greater) than Kakashi's. His jutsu that resembles that of the First Hokage's didn't suprise me, consider his is an Anbu, but the fact he created a house out of it seemed alittle overdone.

Hooded Dude: Wouldn't be suprised if it was Sasuke.

^I can't wait to see Naruto's new Jutsu (especially his new Sexy Jutsu). I think all his advancement will be shown off when he is backed into a corner. Jiyari probably taught him restraint on showing off all he has learned. I always felt Naruto took a backseat in the action, so I really want to see him kick some ass.

Senshi

12-20-2005, 07:20 AM

jetfire

12-20-2005, 08:24 AM

Naruto is such a n00b

You're right. That noob Naruto got so owned by Yamato, and Sai's teamkilling.

Pedro The Hutt

12-20-2005, 11:02 AM

Maybe Sai has a faulty aimbot. <.<;;

Shadowmage

12-20-2005, 06:46 PM

Maybe Sai has a faulty aimbot. <.<;;
Wait, since when have those buggers ever been so useful?

Anyways, I starting to dislike the manga. They have been stretching the story too far. (Although it makes a great deal of financial sense.)

isolatedotaku

12-20-2005, 07:56 PM

I felt that the manga was way to drawn out during the Rescue Sasuke battes after the exams. Each fight ended almost the same way, it screamed "New Footage Filler" to me. It was alot of "oh that was cool!" but not to much in the realm of adding to the story. I just hope the Climax to this arch is worth the read.

jetfire

12-20-2005, 08:21 PM

This is why I found the Zazuba arc the best. I felt like it took the time to develop the characters personailties and fighting styles more (such as making Naruto so scared once he got into the real world and was almost killed, instead of being so full of himself). The villians were very interesting at the time (although I've found the whole "human weapon" thing reused a few times afterwards). The fights felt original, exciting and suspenseful (like rescuing Kakashi using teamwork on the spot, Zazuba going nuts without being able to use his arms, seeing Naruto go nuts for the first time). And the story was pretty good for just being a mission. It even gripped me a bit emotionally when Haku and Zazuba died.

After that, the manga has been putting fighting way ahead of character development. It seems like certain arcs are dedicated to one thing. The chuunin exams were used to show off fighting styles. The whole Rasangan training arc was used to show how much stronger Naruto was getting. The chase Sasuke arc was to show off even more fighting (and a smidge of character development with certain characters). This arc however, is reminding me a bit more of the Zazuba arc. Just a bit. It's not just one huge fight. They're on a mission again, we get to see some new interesting forms of progress with the characters after the time jump, which give them all a fresh coat of paint again. And recently, it hasnt been non stop fighting. The whole issue with who Sai really is, when Sasuke will reappear, Sakura's new usefulness, and being reunited with the rest of the characters after the time jump makes the series more fresh than it's been for awhile (the chuunin exams and chase Sasuke arcs were a lot more drawn out). And most importantly, it'll be interesting to see how things play out, if Naruto (just like Luke) can get Sasuke (like Darth) to join the light side again. I just hope Sasuke isnt Naruto's father. That'd be weird.

So I'm actually interested in what's going to happen. As long as the plot isnt being moved along purely for the sake of fighting, I'm happy. If they need to fight in order to finish the objective, I understand. But when the characters are thrown into a big tournament, or a chase after a bunch of dangerous ninja, which is 100% predicted to end in a big battle with Sasuke, you cant help but think that some of these plot elements were purely put in there, just for the sake of showing them fight more.

PsychoSaiya-jin

12-20-2005, 08:45 PM

This story arc is mostly back onto the "search for Sasuke" bit. Bearing in mind the manga has none of the anime filler, the characters haven't actually tried looking for Sasuke until now.
This is fine in manga, but is going to be hell for those watching the anime. Plus, I wonder what Sasuke's VA is going to be doing apart from voicing Ishida Uryuu from Bleach :P
I'm thinking things should be kicking off in the next couple of chapters.
MISSION START
etc

Pedro The Hutt

12-21-2005, 06:28 AM

Eh, currently I have no trouble with the manga, it's a shounen Jump manga written by a Toriyama inspired mangaka, of course there'll be lots of fighting. And in my opinion the character development isn't suffering from it. o.o;;

TasukiGODofFIRE

12-21-2005, 11:28 AM

it seems less shonen the more I read through it, less so than bleach or black cat

Kei

12-21-2005, 11:56 AM

I would have to disagree. Thats pretty much all I have to say.

~Kei

Senshi

12-21-2005, 03:41 PM

>.<

Kei's avatar is too cute... :thud:

But anyways... I read something that basically got me thinking about Sai being the other Uchiha sharingan user...

Because basically what I read clarifies that the "three" have access to MANGEKYOU sharingan... not just "regular" sharingan (for some reason Ive been thinking that was the case)... therefore Kakashi cant have access to it... he may have a Sharingan eye, but he doesnt have Uchiha blood... therefore he doesnt have access to the bloodline ability of Mangekyou sharingan...

Because of this I dropping the "sasuke clone" theory and starting to think Sai has to be the third "lost ancestor" to Itachi and Sasuke... Its already been stated by Sakura that Sai looks and sounds alot like Sasuke (Itachi also does as well)... it has to be more than coincidence...

So therefore I have a new theory thats somewhat related to the old one... What I think has happened in his past is that maybe he was "stolen away" or something for some reason or another by ROOTS - perhaps to preserve the bloodline... and was then trained to be a cold hearted assassin type by ROOTS... and since he was trained by ROOTS and not an Uchiha, thats why he doesnt have the katon jutsu that is trademark of the Uchihas...

I donno just a theory...

Another theory is that maybe the ROOTS leader, the guy who was all scared up is actually a survivor of Itachi's attack... he had his eyes plucked out by itachi and is actually blind so he cant use sharingan .. Sai is then his son and the third user... not really but maybe... scarred dude does have black hair and looks like he got hit by a truck, so its not out of the realm of possibility...

Kei

12-21-2005, 03:44 PM

Didn't Kakashi do Mangekyou just a few chapters ago?

Also, I'm not working on anything aside from a gut feeling, but for some reason I think that Yamoto is Tobi (The Akatsuki wannabe).

~Kei

Senshi

12-21-2005, 03:51 PM

Didn't Kakashi do Mangekyou just a few chapters ago?

Also, I'm not working on anything aside from a gut feeling, but for some reason I think that Yamoto is Tobi (The Akatsuki wannabe).

~Kei

bleh your right... I remember now... I donno wtf I was thinking...

* Senshi throws that idea out the window.

Back to the drawing board... Last time I ever read "analysis" of Naruto when I got the damn chapters right here...

But you know something I think you might be on to something about Yamato as Tobi... Your talking about the dude with spikey hair and the swirly mask right?

Hmm they look alot alike - there is definitely a chance...

And your avatar makes me want to stab out my eyes with an icepick. I cant look directly at it - I have to avert my eyes...

Ebil.

MetalAlchemist

12-21-2005, 04:14 PM

all i know of Naruto is that the t.v show in the U.S is not following the original story line very well and itys not that far running either :bcuss1:

Kei

12-21-2005, 05:01 PM

But you know something I think you might be on to something about Yamato as Tobi... Your talking about the dude with spikey hair and the swirly mask right?

Yeah, thats the guy. I'm basing it all on the hair, but the sudden appearance of Tobi and then Yamato around the same time got me wondering.

~Kei

TasukiGODofFIRE

12-21-2005, 06:57 PM

Yeah, thats the guy. I'm basing it all on the hair, but the sudden appearance of Tobi and then Yamato around the same time got me wondering.

~Kei
yea I thought the same thing last week, it cuts down on the characters introduced if ... my god their suddenly the same person...a bit contrived though but kishimoto keeps making characters with their identity hidden and it just makes sense(in a typical way) for them all to be the same person. What I meant before is I've never got so much out of a shonen other than this manga with the themes and characters. I mean in shonen its so typical that the main character is the strongest and charismatic character in the series yet naruto focuses on an idiot with no fighting talent which makes it different to me. While people claim its naruto ball z the characters really make it worth it. But in the same vein dbz was popular cause the dbz characters were out there and vegeta was the type of idiot who would sacrafice earth to fight a stronger version of cell and test himself and who doesn't love crazy bastards like that.

Senshi

12-22-2005, 11:34 AM

Pedro The Hutt

12-22-2005, 02:52 PM

Senshi

12-22-2005, 03:38 PM

I had a feeling it'd be Kabuto. XD Good on him. But well, we have two options, either Orochimaru followed him and he's just about ready to kill Kabuto... or Orochimaru and Kabuto are nicely cooperating and are now ready to kill "Sasori".
Either way, seems we found out who the spy was before the end of the year. XD Yay!

Nah I donno about Oro and Kabuto cooperating with each other...

my guess is that Kabuto is all upset that he isnt the right hand man anymore... so hes spying for them

but yeah its like a Christmas Present from Kishimoto... we get some plot development for presentz :D

DarkKanti

12-22-2005, 05:16 PM

Cool chapter. I had a feeling it was Kabuto as well. I mean, this isn't the first time he's betrayed someone. The whole untrustworthy spy works well for him though. If Oro kills Kabuto and then runs that basically makes all of this for nothing, so I doubt that's going to happen. Hopefully the upcoming chapter will answer the few questions that remain.

Senshi

12-22-2005, 05:36 PM

Yeah Oro is prob gonna confront him back at the sound village and give him an ass pounding there.

All I gotta say is I hope this arc finally leads back to Sasuke already...

genki sakura

12-23-2005, 01:38 PM

Yeah Oro is prob gonna confront him back at the sound village and give him an ass pounding there.
ass pounding?

HahahahahahahahahaX1000000

I can't help but laugh at that.

All I gotta say is I hope this arc finally leads back to Sasuke already...
This has to. It would be a bad idea to start up a new arc all over again. Then it will be like "then what the hell what Sai for?! To rile up Naruto or something?!"

I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the following happens:
-Kabuto gets killed.
-Yamato gets found out as "Sasori" and is killed (or possessed...hey it could happen...).

...and if I really wanted to make an odd prediction: Kabuto is Sasuke (i.e. Sasuke transformed himself into Kabuto as a trick.)...but that's a long shot and highly unlikely...

And just as a random side note: That panel that showed Orochimaru....was absolutely disturbing, imo...

Pedro The Hutt

12-24-2005, 10:20 AM

He does look ready to gleefully tear someone to shreds no? XD

PsychoSaiya-jin

12-29-2005, 05:49 PM

The 289 RAW:

OH SNAP! THE SPY REVEALED!!!!

(about ****ing time.)

Well whatdya know... Oro's bitch boy actually grew some balls... good call all those who thought it was Kabuto

But that shit at the end with the rabbit and crazy eyes was pretty scary...

Of course now more than likely Kabuto IS Sai's bro as someone predicted... since that picture does look alot like him, and his sudden entrance into the manga sorta points to thathmm..
That would fit well with Sai's noted dislike for traitors.

Kabuto's loyalty fo Oro has always been questionable since he first revealed he was a spy. Alot of the manga has been written in a way that suggests he is about to betray Oro at any given second. One good example being when Tsunade was about to "heal" Orochimaru [Actually, I'm still wondering if the 3rd's curse is still on him]. So far iirc, I think Kabuto has been the only known spy-character in Naruto.
He's a pretty interesting character. It has been suggested that he's got a bloodline limit and he was adopted by a medical ninja, so his background is still unknown.

Pedro The Hutt

12-30-2005, 05:19 PM

Tsunami? Don't you mean Tsunade concidering Tsunami is Bridge Builder Tazuna-san's daughter? <.<;;

PsychoSaiya-jin

12-31-2005, 04:20 AM

Tsunami? Don't you mean Tsunade concidering Tsunami is Bridge Builder Tazuna-san's daughter? <.<;;
oh yeah ^_^

genki sakura

01-01-2006, 04:59 PM

Chapter 290

I don't know whether to go oh crap (why couldn't this have been simple and Kabuto just get killed out of no where) or ooh, this should be fun (like with Orochimaru's line about telling Naruto about telling him who's gotten stronger between him and Sasuke). But either way, this, unless Sasuke pops out of no where, would be some really drawn out battle that's gonna be a drag unless Orochimaru, throughout the battle, throws out some information about Sasuke. Otherwise, I'd find this a really useless battle, Orochimaru in or not.

Time for odd predictions (yet are somewhat rooted in some fact):
-Sasuke pops out of no where.
...it could happen. Orochimaru's there. Probably what Kabuto said to Yamato was a trick, I mean because Orochimaru undone the Sasori seal, he would be working on behalf of Orochimaru, rather than being truthful to Yamato-disguised-as-Sasori. He could pop out of no where and possibly set up for a Naruto v. Sasuke. Or he could do that and kill Kabuto, which because of how random that sounds is a total improbability. Or! He could (what I think Senshi said a while ago, even though was probably a tongue in cheek comment) put a chidori through someone and strike a mean pose (which would be a totally hot moment..ahem...).

(sorry, I'm really getting impatient about when Sasuke's gonna resurface...and if anyone's wondering...I don't think Sai's Sasuke anymore...damn....anyway...)

-Yamato gets killed or gets really mortally wounded.

-Yamato gets killed and someone gets taken hostage by Orochimaru.
...this does sound weird but I'll explain. What could happen is that Yamato gets killed. And then, you have to wonder, what are the chances of Sai (who does have interesting powers), Sakura (brutal strength and all), and Naruto (crazy jutsu and all), could take on both Orochimaru and Kabuto AND defeat them? Yes, miracles can happen, but c'mon, this is a little out there. I mean Kakashi could also pop out of no where, but that's a lot more unlikely that Sasuke making an appearance. So if such a battle were to take place (Sakura, Sai, Naruto versus Orochimaru and Kabuto), they might be able to have a good battle, but it might not be the most favorable of outcomes. So! Orochimaru, to piss them and everyone else off, could take one of them hostage (Sai, maybe, if he is Kabuto's brother and then he could threaten to kill him if Kabuto doesn't swear loyalty [although Kabuto's Sasori seal was undone]. Sakura, possibly, but that's more fanfiction than anything. Naruto, possibly, if he wants to set up a "happy reunion" between him and Sasuke. And if the last idea happens, there might be Sasuke v. Naruto Round Two! [if you don't count the event that happened on the hospital roof].)

And for something totally random:
SaiXSakura fanfictions have surfaced on ff.net....

(sasusaku forever.)

Kei

01-01-2006, 05:06 PM

Eversince the spy was revealed to be Kabuto, and then Orochimaru showing up, I also had the thought that Sasuke would show up during the fight as well.

Either that, or Akatsuki will jump in, since they hate Orochimaru AND want Kyuubi.

It could go either way!

~Kei

Ninja Realist

01-01-2006, 05:07 PM

Why do you think Yamato will die? I don't think he will, hopefully it will be Kabuto(if anyone) who bites the duest.

Anyway, here's my bizarre prediction.

Zetsu or one of the two un-named Akatsuki members surfaces and interferes with the fight. I see no other way that could Team 7 and Yamato could get away from Orochimaru and Kabuto unharmed. Also, it would be away for them to show the remaining akatsuki.

EDIT

Damn you, Kei.

Senshi

01-02-2006, 12:39 PM

Pedro The Hutt

01-02-2006, 06:23 PM

I think there's not going to be a fight at all. XD Orochimaru stated that he wanted to kill Sasori, so it is a bit awkward that there is no Sasori at all now. Heck, he might be grateful when he hears that Sakura did that for him. XD Either way he might think it too much of a waste of time and energy to fight two Anbu, a chuunin and an overpowered genin.
But we'll see ne?

PsychoSaiya-jin

01-02-2006, 10:08 PM

I'm thinking a bridge is going to collapse. Rope bridges are made for falling apart during fights XD

I have a feeling that Sasuke won't be appearing *just* yet.
It's going to be milked a little bit more and Sasuke's reappearence is probably going to be at the most dramatic moment.
I say there's still 10 chapters more to go at least.
Still, I've noticed that these ninjas seem to have lost their edge when it comes to being sneaky. You'd have thought that at least Sai would've stayed at the back to do distance justsu or some other deception.
Then again, maybe there is a bunshin hidden amoungst them.

It's still doubtless that Kabuto will betray Orochimaru when he least expects it.

Senshi

01-03-2006, 11:45 AM

I'm thinking a bridge is going to collapse. Rope bridges are made for falling apart during fights XD

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... no way that thing is staying up

It's still doubtless that Kabuto will betray Orochimaru when he least expects it.

nah... I still think hes too much of Oro's bitch boy to pull anything... anyways Oro has him under like a spell or something according to the last chapter

DarkKanti

01-04-2006, 02:52 AM

nah... I still think hes too much of Oro's bitch boy to pull anything... anyways Oro has him under like a spell or something according to the last chapter

I though Oro just released Kabuto from Sasori's jutsu. I don't think it really mentioned him casting his own jutstu over him. Oh well, whatever. The bridge breaking idea is pretty good, because it leaves a good escape to this fight without killing off any characters in what seems to be an almost pointless fight (Which is where Kishimoto will probably go with it).

Pedro The Hutt

01-05-2006, 08:35 AM

Still, I've noticed that these ninjas seem to have lost their edge when it comes to being sneaky.
Did they ever have one? >.>;; The main character is as shouty as you can get.
"OI KAKASHI-SENSEI! FIGHT ME!"

Ninja Realist

01-05-2006, 11:12 AM

Psssh, some of them rule at being sneaky. Zetsu seems to appear out of nowhere without anyone ever noticing where he is coming to or going to.

PsychoSaiya-jin

01-05-2006, 01:35 PM

Bold prediction #2:
The Sai on the bridge is a Kage-Bunshin just like in training.

Wild Speculation #1:
Yamato's wood-element jutsu would be useful on the wood part of the bridge.

RIDICULOUS IDEA #1:
I've had this insane idea for about as long as Sasuke has had that seal but I have a feeling that Orochimaru has been developing another forbidden beast and needs Sasuke's body for a host (as well as a host for himself). It would explain why he used to be and part of Akatsuki and isn't now.
Seeing how we've already got a Tanuki (Raccoon) and Kitsune (Fox), I'm guessing the other beasts will come in the form of Kappas and other similar animals. If there where to be a new one added, it'll most likely be a Dragon.

Read up to ch25 of 666 Satan. Kishimoto's brother, Kishimoto Seishi, is pretty good. Both mangas are rooted in the same basic concepts, but 666 Satan is more like early Dragonball and I like that.

genki sakura

01-05-2006, 01:47 PM

Hmm its possible that Sasuke will show up but I donno... Doesnt seem like its the right "venue" for his big appearance... maybe to defend "Team Kakashi"? but thats just wishful thinking...

All I hope is that after this buildup for the reappearance of Sasuke... all these false alarms in Sasuke-lookalikes and mysterious hooded characters... that Sasuke's big return becomes anti climatic...

Sasuke wouldn't defend "Team Kakashi." If he wanted to show loyalties to Team 7, he wouldn't have left Konoha in the first place, or he would have rebelled against Orochimaru. The only what that he would defend them is if he pulled a "Naruto is my opponent."(or something along those lines).

I think it's getting more annoying right now rather than anti-climatic (though if this goes on it will become that) because of the reasons you stated. Unless Kishimoto pulls the biggest mindf**k of the series and it turns out after all that Sai is really Sasuke and Dozu(or whoever that old dude is) is Orochimaru and the Orochimaru on the bridge is a fake. But that's really really really unlikely.

I'm thinking a bridge is going to collapse. Rope bridges are made for falling apart during fights XD

I have a feeling that Sasuke won't be appearing *just* yet.
It's going to be milked a little bit more and Sasuke's reappearence is probably going to be at the most dramatic moment.
I say there's still 10 chapters more to go at least.
Still, I've noticed that these ninjas seem to have lost their edge when it comes to being sneaky. You'd have thought that at least Sai would've stayed at the back to do distance justsu or some other deception.
Then again, maybe there is a bunshin hidden amoungst them.

It's still doubtless that Kabuto will betray Orochimaru when he least expects it.
But Kishimoto's milked Sasuke's possible time of return for so long (50-60 chapters) that any longer it's just getting annoying (even though I can't wait and so it makes it seem even more annoying). Though I wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 10 chapters...grr. I don't think Kabuto'll betray Orochimaru because he's already showed a bit of loyalty to Orochimaru.

Pedro The Hutt

01-06-2006, 05:36 PM

Of course we could speculate that Orochimaru himself could be a Jinchuruuki, holding the 8-tailed demon serpent Orochi from Japanese myth. <.<;;

Senshi

01-06-2006, 06:12 PM

Of course we could speculate that Orochimaru himself could be a Jinchuruuki, holding the 8-tailed demon serpent Orochi from Japanese myth. <.<;;

now THAT would be an awesome plot twist... and it makes sense... I honestly wouldnt be surprised if that becomes the case...

Also makes me think even more that Oro is gonna be like the "last boss" or whatever you would call it...

Pedro The Hutt

01-06-2006, 06:35 PM

Aye, but I've had friends argue that it will probably not be the case because it's a bit TOO obvious, especially if you're japanese you'll have heard of the Orochi legend at some point or another, either the original myth or through games and anime such as the King of Fighters and Ranma ½. And seeing as he's even named after Orochi, and uses Snake based jutsu.. but we'll see, and it'd also save Kishimoto-san the trouble of designing an 8 tails. XD

Senshi

01-06-2006, 11:54 PM

genki sakura

01-07-2006, 03:06 PM

triggerman

01-11-2006, 06:37 PM

Did they ever have one? >.>;; The main character is as shouty as you can get.
"OI KAKASHI-SENSEI! FIGHT ME!"

i would have to say taht both of you are wrong it is really only teh main character that is like taht but the past two chapters alone shows the ninja in this manga's ability to conciel themselves. yamoto or whoever wasn't discoverd by kabuto and kabuto had no idea taht he was fallowed by orochimaru. great skills right there.

Pedro The Hutt

01-13-2006, 06:32 AM

I think I heard the author of the Oxford English Dictionary turning in his grave...

But the Naruto ninja aren't much about stealth, we have both Hyuuga's who wear white, Naruto who wears orange, Temari who even has taken to sporting purple, Jiraiya who wears vibrant red, quite frankly they stick out like sore thumbs. XD But for that matter it never was Kishimoto-san's intention to make typical ninja. Although granted, some of them do have some hiding skills for the sake of story convenience.

And Kabuto knew perfectly well Orochimaru was hot on his heels. <.<;;

Senshi

01-13-2006, 06:29 PM

No chapter again this week I guess...

Kishimoto... lazy bastard... if hes gonna make a manga drag on this long he better get to work.

Pedro The Hutt

01-14-2006, 06:30 AM

I'd say he deserves his winter break just as much as we do. <.<;;

Kei

01-14-2006, 12:08 PM

yeah now that I did a little research, it wouldnt really make sense cause Orochi was eight-HEADED dragon not eight-TAILED... hence it makes sense that he uses snake jutsu but not for him to be a eight tail demon... combine that with the fact that pre-exile, Oro was never treated like Naruto was when he was a kid - an outcast because he holds a demon within...

If you want to get further into that mythos, Naruto goes far deeper. For example, the weapon to slay Orochi was "The Kusanagi Sword". Basically Japans version of excalibur, but also, the same sword that Orochimaru uses to kill Sandaime.

~Kei

Natsuke Takeda

01-16-2006, 10:29 AM

Yes, it would be really really cool if it turned out that way, but then, I would have to ask, what would happen after such a revelation? Would that mean that the Akatsuki would also go after him?...but that would be kinda stupid, imo.

As to Orochimaru being the "last boss," that's plausible but then, it's another case of: where would the story go from there? The Akatsuki's still around. Itachi's still alive. I would think the Akatsuki would be the last organization/boss to fight. And then there could be also a possible segway to Sasuke v. Itachi (granted that Sasuke appears some time before I turn 21). And then after that go onto possible fighting the Akatsuki. And with a whole "OMG Let's take down the Akatsuki" arc, Naruto can come out as a hero and become Hokage (!).

(I feel so psychic with that whole last paragraph...it's probably all wrong...but let me have my fun...^_^)

Well, to me Orochimaru seems like the type of person who would rather wait and bide his time before he strikes, ala a snake. If I were to predict as well, Orochimaru would indeed be the final villian to face. I can imagine Orochimaru, at the last possible moment, stealing something so great from Akatsuki before they all died, and attaining a great power.

What my question is what will tie all of this together? So far, the goal of most of the villians is to attain the power of the nine demons. Is that the end of the road, or is there more to it?

Whatever the case it, it would most likely be ridiculous. What I've come to notice is that slowly, we're shifting into something that doesn't seem so ninja-like anymore. Real beings made out of drawings? oooook...

Is Rasengan even USEFUL ANYMORE?! So far, Naruto isn't the dynamic character he used to be. He's more angry and less stupid...

....Baaaad Naruto. He's not developing like he should be. I also don't like the fact that Naruto's jutsus are all high-level and completely chakra-draining. He doesn't have one jutsu that he can use in tight situations. ANY MOVE, MAN! A fire technique, a water technique, ANYTHING! What does he have? Naruto-rendan?! CMON! LEARN SOMETHING SIMPLE FIRST YOU DAMN PERVERTED MORON! If you use Rasengan ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR!

So far, Sasuke and Sakura seem to be the only ones I can see having a good role. I just don't like how they're making Naruto act and stuff.

....I HATE Sai. I hate those "I have no emotion, only the mission counts" type of people. We all know what's gonna happen there. He'll probably find the emotions he's been "practicing" for at the last possible moment.

...Dammit, Kabuto was so close to being cool again, then he plans that crap with the Ssssnake. Seriously, he needs a better role. I can see him in a better role than being Orochimaru's b*tch.

Sasuke is better off being a villian until the very end. Of course, they'll have to develop it that way. I don't want a sudden mind-change, I want his process of being back to good long and harsh and full of things. No matter what people say, I believe that Sasuke is the most well-rounded character here, unlike Naruto who's development seemed almost.. predictable.

Pedro The Hutt

01-16-2006, 04:56 PM

I think Jiraiya spent most of his time peeping into Hot springs and writing on Ichiya Ichiya Tactics during those two and a half years instead of training Naruto. XD That's why he still needs bunshin assistance when making the Rasengan. If anything he needed Taijutsu training so he can achieve great strength and speed without needing to go all Kyuubi all the time.

Senshi

01-16-2006, 05:28 PM

Sasuke is better off being a villian until the very end. Of course, they'll have to develop it that way. I don't want a sudden mind-change, I want his process of being back to good long and harsh and full of things.

I donno... IMO I think that his change would basically have to come down to a point where he has to make a critical decision... like he has to kill Sakura or something (of course he ends up not doing it)... granted that afterwards he would have to undergo a long redemption process but I think the initial impetus has to be drastic...

I think Jiraiya spent most of his time peeping into Hot springs and writing on Ichiya Ichiya Tactics during those two and a half years instead of training Naruto. XD That's why he still needs bunshin assistance when making the Rasengan. If anything he needed Taijutsu training so he can achieve great strength and speed without needing to go all Kyuubi all the time.

He needs lessons from Gai-Sensei!

Osu!

Pedro The Hutt

01-17-2006, 08:31 AM

That's what I've said to some of my friends too. XD Naruto would probably enjoy it too, seeing how he was so eager to put on the trademark green bodysuit when Gai gave him one.

genki sakura

01-19-2006, 11:18 AM

I donno... IMO I think that his change would basically have to come down to a point where he has to make a critical decision... like he has to kill Sakura or something (of course he ends up not doing it)... granted that afterwards he would have to undergo a long redemption process but I think the initial impetus has to be drastic...

He needs lessons from Gai-Sensei!

Osu!
If it came down to him killing Sakura, if offered something uber uber awesome, he probably would kill her (as psycho as that sounds). That, at least in my opinion, would be something cool to see....you know something like "Kill the girl or I'll ...!" But that would also seem to be venturing a bit into the fanfiction realm, unless there was something leading up to it.

Lol, imagine if he did get lessons from Gai-sensei...

And don't forget to add the bowl-cut, thick eye brows, and *ping* teeth to the green jumpsuit!

And on a side note, I love that sig, Pedro.

Senshi

01-19-2006, 12:51 PM

yeah they so need to make a spin off for Rock Lee and Gai... that would be the awesomeness...

of course he still has to go through 1249 more chapters of Naruto before hes finally done with the story so we would have to wait a while...

Anybody know if 291 is up this week?

Kei

01-19-2006, 02:15 PM

Anybody know if 291 is up this week?

Yep, there was a new issue of jump this week. So now everone can get their 2 week long Naruto, Bleach, Death Note, One Piece, HxH, etc fix.

~Kei

Senshi

01-19-2006, 10:27 PM

hmm... After reading Kei's post I began desperately searching for 291... couldnt find the chapter but did find one particularly interesting pic...

SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT DONT SAY I DIDNT WARN YOU

http://img.webhostfree.net/upload/PP.jpg Holy shit its Sasuke!

Now this little bit could be fake... hopefully I can get my hands on the whole chapter and tell soon enough...

Kei

01-19-2006, 10:28 PM

Thats a fake, was confirmed at the narutofan forums.

~Kei

DarkKanti

01-19-2006, 10:57 PM

Yeah, that's a pretty obvious fake. The color of Sasuke's hair and clothes don't match anyother colors on the page or his face or headband, which leads me to believe that someone photshopped the hair and clothes and pasted it over someone else's face. Pretty shoddy photoshop work if you ask me. :/

Senshi

01-20-2006, 05:56 AM

I donno all the colors look black to me...

I guess my first suspicion as to it being a fake was the squirrely hair in the back still... Also why would he be wearing the same clothes he wore 3 years ago...

regardless I still think its a pretty neat adaptation of what Sasuke could look like...

but I did finally get my hands on the real raw of 291 and it wasnt worth the waiting and work really... only one notable event occured...

Looks like Naruto can control the devil Chakra somewhat...

but mostly looks like just more DBZ-esque prefight crap... you know the routine...

"You are going down!" "No you are going down!" "Now I shall show you my true power!" Rawr! "Ah hah! that was pretty good! but now I shall show you my powers!" etc.

hopefully the dialogue once translated will be more insightful.

Minnie

01-20-2006, 11:56 AM

Ahaha, Sasuke. I still expect his debut to be along the lines of fishnets, pretzels, facial tattoos and an elongated tongue.

* Minnie hopes with a vengance!

genki sakura

01-20-2006, 05:16 PM

Minnie, pretzels?

Elongated tongue? Please, God, no, please...

The fishnets comment slightly reminds me think of a fanfic I read where Neji, Naruto, Sasuke (although he didn't have a lot of fishnet...) and Gaara sang "Lady Marmalade"....er....

back on topic...

291...only thing that was really told was that

Naruto is capable of sprouting a fourth tail and Yamato was once a test subject for Orochimaru...

Now the whole test subject thing is interesting, but does that mean that Yamato could possibly be a traitor because of his connection to Orochimaru? But then that would seem kinda strange because If Kabuto was to fight Yamato, it would be just another digression...

DarkKanti

01-20-2006, 05:25 PM

I really doubt Yamato is going to become a triator. I mean, Oro himself thought all of his test subjects had died before he met Yamato, so there's no way he could have convinced him to join him beforehand.

Pedro The Hutt

01-21-2006, 09:30 AM

If anyone who ever worked with Orochimaru could be a traitor then how come no one suspected Anko back in the day? XD One of Orochimaru's curse seal test subjects.

triggerman

01-24-2006, 05:33 AM

the new chapter is so good. naruto starts to flew his kyuubi muscles. it is really good and that yamoto guy's past is revieled.

Pedro The Hutt

01-24-2006, 06:16 AM

"Revealed" you mean. And meh, Naruto needs some anger management. XD With each passing chapter I get more and more the impression that Jiraiya failed miserably as a teacher. XD However did he manage to succesfully train the Yondaime?

jetfire

01-24-2006, 02:34 PM

Even though the Kyuubi can make Naruto pretty unbalanced (getting stronger than Jiraiya in a second), it's actually growing on me. The kyuubi isnt necessarily a strength, but a hindrance to Naruto. It's slowly taking over his life, and taking control of it. I'm guessing if that ninth tail sprouted, Naruto would die, and only the nine tails would remian. They said by the fourth tail, his body was covered in his own blood. By the ninth tail, he'd definately be disintegrated. I'm guessing by the end, Akatsuki will remove the nine tails from Naruto (giving him a happy ending in the end, so he won't die), and Naruto will end up defeating the Nine Tails, in which the nine tails is fused with Itachi, or some greater powerful being. He still looks cool though. Maybe by the sixth or seventh tail, he'll start burninating everything.

Illjwamh

01-24-2006, 04:42 PM

I like the idea of having it removed. Not only is it dangerous to him, but he's beginning to rely on it too much. A one-trick pony always goes down in the end, no matter how great that one trick is.

MZeroX

01-24-2006, 05:11 PM

I'm still wondering what "that jutsu" is from a few chapters ago... All we see is Naruto using huge amounts of chakra and bulldozing his opponents. Why doesn't he have any skill?!?! But yeah, i would enjoy a tragic hero ending, where Naruto sacrifices himself along with the kyuubi. But since there are so many naruto-fans, i highly doubt that ending will ever come into being...

DarkKanti

01-24-2006, 05:14 PM

Oh I could see that happening... about 500 chapters in the future.

Pedro The Hutt

01-24-2006, 05:23 PM

Naw, this is a shounen jump manga, the protagonist always lives to see the end and preferably live happily ever after.

And I can't really see the Kyuubi being drawn from him and him living to tell the tale, there was only one Chiyo. >.>;;

DarkKanti

01-24-2006, 05:44 PM

Well... There's always Sakura... She could learn it eventually...

>.>

Pedro The Hutt

01-25-2006, 07:07 AM

But then Sakura-chan would be all dead like. XD Oh well, I guess that would just make the Hinata/Naruto shippers squeal in delight.

I'm surprised no one has gotten the bright idea of renewing the seal on Naruto a bit. >.>;;

Ninja Realist

01-25-2006, 07:44 AM

Pssshhh, Hina x Naru for life.

Pedro The Hutt

01-25-2006, 08:16 AM

Oh don't get me wrong. XD I support that pairing too, they'd balance each other out and all that.

jetfire

01-31-2006, 11:14 AM

Well... There's always Sakura... She could learn it eventually...

>.>

I could always see Akatsuki removing the kyuubi from Naruto, and Sakura ressurecting him, but dying in the process, making Naruto super pissed. Then Tsunade will probably revive Sakura, since she has great healing skills too. This will give Naruto the chance to take the open position of hokage in the end, and Tsunade would definately allow it before she died, because she said that Naruto will be hokage.

Chapter 292 is alright. I liked seeing Oro's bitch boy not being able to get relatively close to Naruto. It even looks like Oro is having some trouble, which will be really understandable if that fourth tail sprouts. Jiraiya even had a lot of trouble with that.

Pedro The Hutt

01-31-2006, 11:45 AM

jetfire

01-31-2006, 12:04 PM

That would be a bit ridiculous if you ask me. XD If you reduce it to a nutshell that's "Oh no! Naruto's dead! Wait! Sakura revives him but now Sakura's dead! But now Tsunade revives him and now she's dead!" Passing on death through several people would be a bit silly, not to mention that it's mentioned that it was Chiyo's exclusive ability. >.>;; I'm pretty sure that from now on death is very permanent in Naruto.

Would it make you happier if just Tsunade revived Naruto then?

Besides, it's not as if my idea hasnt been done before. A certain part of FMA had a revival process to some extent like that.

I'm just saying it'd make sense for Sakura to revive Naruto, because that would upset him a whole lot more, and it'd make sense for Tsunade to revive Sakura, because she was her pupil. And it'd make sense for Tsunade to die, because then the position for hokage would be open to Naruto, and I think the only way that we've seen the hokage position get passed down so far, is when the previous one dies.

Also, just because it was Chiyos ability, doesnt mean it cant be learned. We've still got a ways to go in the manga, and I'm sure there's a possibility that Sakura or Tsunade could learn it.

And if death is so permanent, then how come Gaara just got revived not too long ago? Besides, we have seen a habit of characters being brought back to life under almost impossible circumstances. Also, I can see the kyuubi being removed from Naruto, to prove that old saying, "You were strong all along, with or without that special power/cape/item". It'd prove that Naruto's kyuubi isnt what makes him great and strong. It's Naruto himself. And the only way to prove this, is to have Akatsuki (which is the only one who can remove a kyuubi so far), remove it from Naruto, and have someone else revive him. And it occured to me, that since Tsunade is a medical ninja, and the hokage, that either she would revive Naruto, or revive Sakura after Sakura revives Naruto. Then Naruto would fight the nine tails/or person who absorbs the nine tails, save the day, then become hokage.

Itachi Uchiha

01-31-2006, 01:01 PM

I always thought that Naruto would die like the 4th... The whole - a hokages job is to sacrifice himself (or herself) for Konoha bit. They all cry about how he dramatically saves the day and decide that his sacrifice made him worthy of being hokage... Becomes hokage in death, not life. Gets his face carved on the mountain. Life goes on.

I don't like the concept of them being revived. If people die they should act like propper dead people and stay dead.

Senshi

02-01-2006, 06:11 AM

And if death is so permanent, then how come Gaara just got revived not too long ago?

Yeah but dont they have to die themselves to be brought back to life (like Chiyo)? Like a Fullmetal Alchemist sorta theory of whatever the hell it was called... so while Gaara lived Chiyo still died (even tho she was about to go anyways)...

Pedro The Hutt

02-01-2006, 07:19 AM

And if death is so permanent, then how come Gaara just got revived not too long ago?You should read my posts more carefully. =D I said that death would be permanent "from now on", as in, after Gaara's revival. But well, Tsunade doesn't know about that Jutsu yet and Sakura has shown no interest in learning it herself.

Anyhow, I'm just pointing out that I hope that the reviving and the reviver dying thing won't be used again or it could get pretty old pretty quick. It just won't have the same dramatic impact anymore as it did the first time. Some tricks are best used only once.

Either way, I think that Naruto will be stuck with the kyuubi for the rest of his days, I just hope someone renews the seal soon and gives him some anger management or he'll be punted out of my favourite character list. XD

jetfire

02-01-2006, 08:31 AM

You should read my posts more carefully. =D I said that death would be permanent "from now on", as in, after Gaara's revival. But well, Tsunade doesn't know about that Jutsu yet and Sakura has shown no interest in learning it herself.

Anyhow, I'm just pointing out that I hope that the reviving and the reviver dying thing won't be used again or it could get pretty old pretty quick. It just won't have the same dramatic impact anymore as it did the first time. Some tricks are best used only once.

Either way, I think that Naruto will be stuck with the kyuubi for the rest of his days, I just hope someone renews the seal soon and gives him some anger management or he'll be punted out of my favourite character list. XD

Sorry about misunderstanding. It just didnt appear that clear to me.

Still, I'm not voicing what I want to happen (the whole revival thing), but what I think will happen. Yes, the revival trick could get pretty old, but hey. The kyuubi is a pretty sweet trick. But now look how many times they've used it to power up Naruto so he can win against impossible circumstances. The revival process is just another trick that can be used to save someone under impossible circumstances. It's the ultimate medical ninja trick, which I'm sure Tsunade is capable of learning by the end.

Heh, the whole medic situation reminds me of a quote from Red vs Blue:

Doc: A medic doesnt actually save people. They just make it more comfortable for the patient...while they die.
Tucker: Note to self. Don't EVER get shot.

If Naruto died from losing the kyuubi, Sakura or Tsunade should just give him CPR or rub his neck with aloe vera. He'd be fine.

Pedro The Hutt

02-01-2006, 09:35 AM

Oh yes, the Kyuubi thing is getting old too. XD He keeps whipping out sooner and sooner.
"Oh my gawd! Someone took Gaara's ramen!"
*enter five tails Naruto!*

Corpse

02-01-2006, 11:43 AM

Oh yes, the Kyuubi thing is getting old too. XD He keeps whipping out sooner and sooner.
"Oh my gawd! Someone took Gaara's ramen!"
*enter five tails Naruto!*

naruto = The Hulk.

the only thing that's missing is naruto getting knocked behind something and having lou ferrigno jump out in green body paint.

PsychoSaiya-jin

02-01-2006, 02:50 PM

If we brits know anything, its how to kill a good fox.
All we need is a horse, a trumpet and a few dogs.

Until then, they can control him with a knocked-over dustbin. That'll keep him busy.

jetfire

02-02-2006, 07:29 PM

Chapter 293

OMGWTFBBQ?!?

Absolutely nuts.

In a good way.

Niiiiccceee fox...*backs away*

Hey Psycho Saiyajin. Still wanna hunt that fox? I'll get the tactical nuke.

I just think his fox form looks pretty cool. And cmon, you had to expect this to happen. I expected it since the first episode I've watched of Naruto. It's no big shock, but I don't think it's ridiculous. Naruto's kyuubi was bound to end up getting out of control, ever since I saw him go nuts and punch Haku. It's shonen. Everyone has a beast inside to release. In Bleach, Ichigo has that Hollow form, in Kenshin he has the Battosai within him, in Trigun Vash has his Angel Arm, in Gungrave Brandon got to be ressurected, etc...This isn't a case of being like DBZ, since transformations happen in a lot of action mangas/animes. Multiple transformations are the same deal. At least Naruto isnt doing this completely on purpose. He gets angry, and then the kyuubi takes control of him. In DBZ, they could power up on a whim.

Senshi

02-03-2006, 09:16 AM

I think Naruto just went SSJ on them himself...

Granted his transformation is alot cooler than DBZ but still...

it also makes me sorta imagine how X-tails Naruto fighting X-seals Sasuke is gonna turn out...

NOW I SHALL SHOW YOU MY TRUE POWERZ!

animerules15421

02-03-2006, 11:13 AM

jetfire

02-03-2006, 12:25 PM

Doesnt the four tails Naruto look an awful lot like a heartless from Kingdom Hearts right now? (I mostly mean by what his face looks like) Plus, he's all black (unless the real colour would be crimson red, like blood). Still, he does look like a heartless to me.

I didnt expect him to turn into a fox by four tails. Since there's nine tails in all, I thought he'd be a huge fox by the 6th or 7th, and remain the same size, but grow fur and fox-like features by the 4th to 6th.

Senshi

02-03-2006, 05:38 PM

Yes it is true that Naruto is way better then DBZ but X means 10 and IX means 9. So I think what you ment was:
it also makes me sorta imagine how IX-tails Naruto fighting IX-seals Sasuke is gonna turn out...
Due to Naruto has the 9 tailed fox in him.

no I mean X as in a variable... like in Algebra (if youve ever taken an algebra course you know what im talkin about)...

and I wasnt really saying that Naruto was better than DBZ either... I was trying to make a comment on how this whole "powered up transformation" scenario in Naruto has alot of similarities with the SSJ transformation in DBZ...

it still remains to be seen whether Naruto is better than DBZ or not...

animerules15421

02-03-2006, 05:45 PM

Oh ok, thanks for the enlightenment. And yes I have took algebra, but if thats the X variable then what is Y?

General Suburbia

02-03-2006, 10:59 PM

That last episode was confusing. Hard to keep up with all the action when it's all still and unmoving on paper. And Naruto's form right now fails to surprise or impress me in any way possible. I'd rather have a looming, sexy Sasuke knocking off quick remarks anyday.

Pedro The Hutt

02-04-2006, 04:27 AM

<.<;; Sasukengst fangirls *siiigh* I fail to see how static pictures can be confusing. Unless you've gotten so used to anime that something not moving can be concidered confusing.

General Suburbia

02-04-2006, 09:04 AM

When all I see are slashmarks and some kind of explosion in a scene...I prefer some kind of action that tells me maybe not exactly why something happened, but how it happened. A random swirling foot and an exploding fist...yea.

PsychoSaiya-jin

02-04-2006, 02:54 PM

I'm still up for fox hunting. I just need more beagles ^_^
This is very odd though. Naruto's main purpose was to be a seal or sheath to contain the kyuubi but now his quest for strengh has meant he's getting used by it instead. He's almost become as bad as Sasuke in many respects.

He is also starting to remind me very heavily of Jio from 666Satan.
It is a shame in someways because I was hoping that over these last 2 years he was going to have improved his basic skills as a ninja. His use of kage-bunshin against Kakashi gave me good expectations. Maybe its because he's been involved in things that make him loose his cool, I dunno.

jetfire

02-09-2006, 10:44 AM

I just read the Raw version of Chapter 294. Nothing really evenful happened. I enjoyed the Naruto's demon fox form more in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight than this fight. His moves arent as interesting. Well, I guess it's kinda the same thing, with the limbs extending all over the place, but he hardly even touches Oro.

And please god, don't let that ball he's forming be a dark kamehameha.

But now that I think of it, the ball isnt being formed out of some kinda energy. He literally took some of himself (or his blood), and then reformed it into a ball. But from the looks of it, he'll probably shoot it just like some kinda energy beam...damn it.

Corpse

02-09-2006, 11:35 AM

why is naruto a fox version of Carnage?

Kei

02-09-2006, 06:01 PM

Corpse

02-09-2006, 06:46 PM

I just want this damn fight to be over with. Nothing is happening. Orochimaru gets hit 'oh noes, it's a bunshin again! lol'. I just want something to happen. This fight will end as a stalemate, as usual.

~Kei

uhh obviously both symbiotes are gonna fight and then spiderman's gonna come in with some crazy ultrasonic device to make them retreat...wait, wrong comic.

Pedro The Hutt

02-10-2006, 10:59 AM

Someone's a bit bittered.

PsychoSaiya-jin

02-10-2006, 10:19 PM

why is naruto a fox version of Carnage?
Because SuperSaiyans are old hat. Craaazy symbiotes are where the fun is at now ^_^

I'm kind of dissapointed that [apart from Sasuke's fight] all fights with Orochimaru have to be big giant super power struggles.
Hell, if any summoning occurs, NarutovOro is going to be more like an episode of Ultraman!
Dammit. I want to see bunshin's (etc) used in new and interesting ways, not bigger fireballs.

Having all the terrain blown away takes away all the fun of "teh ninja".
We all know what is going to happen too. Naruto is going to be sealed by Yamato and Orochimaru is getting away.
The only really interesting factor will be Sai. Is he after Oro or is he there to stop Naruto? That's the question really.
Has the main character always been the most annoying and rubbish in this series?

Pedro The Hutt

02-11-2006, 01:43 PM

No, only after he set off to save Gaara.

Kei

02-11-2006, 02:03 PM

Has the main character always been the most annoying and rubbish in this series?

Last year, Naruto was second place in the official popularity contest. (Behind Sasuke). This year, he was 4th place. (Behind Sasuke, Kakashi...and Deidara.) So yes. Peopole agree that Naruto isn't the best character, but they chose some shitty characters to like more. Good characters get no love! (Ok. So Kakashi is neat. But Sasuke? Deidara? Please).

~Kei

Senshi

02-11-2006, 03:32 PM

I'm kind of dissapointed that [apart from Sasuke's fight] all fights with Orochimaru have to be big giant super power struggles.
Hell, if any summoning occurs, NarutovOro is going to be more like an episode of Ultraman!
Dammit. I want to see bunshin's (etc) used in new and interesting ways, not bigger fireballs.

my sentiments exactly...

I mean the fighting was what made Naruto NOT be DBZ IMO... It had actually interesting and smart fights in the beginning... the nins had to use their various jutsus in creative ways in order to top each other... now adays its just about who has "TEH POWA!!!"

I mean seriously tho... this thing is turning into DBZ... Unbelievably powerful energy attacks... crazy transformations... increasingly less useful side characters... "powered/charged up" attacks... all it needs is extended "heavy panting" scenes and blurred "omg the punches are so fast" hand to hand and it is DBZ

Last year, Naruto was second place in the official popularity contest. (Behind Sasuke). This year, he was 4th place. (Behind Sasuke, Kakashi...and Deidara.) So yes. Peopole agree that Naruto isn't the best character, but they chose some shitty characters to like more. Good characters get no love! (Ok. So Kakashi is neat. But Sasuke? Deidara? Please).

Which is kinda funny cause Sasuke hasnt shown up at all in the manga recently...

General Suburbia

02-11-2006, 05:33 PM

Shadowmage

02-11-2006, 08:37 PM

I just want this damn fight to be over with. Nothing is happening. Orochimaru gets hit 'oh noes, it's a bunshin again! lol'. I just want something to happen. This fight will end as a stalemate, as usual.

~Kei
Uh, isn't this where Soundchazer walks in and says "I told you so."

genki sakura

02-17-2006, 04:07 PM

Last year, Naruto was second place in the official popularity contest. (Behind Sasuke). This year, he was 4th place. (Behind Sasuke, Kakashi...and Deidara.) So yes. Peopole agree that Naruto isn't the best character, but they chose some shitty characters to like more. Good characters get no love! (Ok. So Kakashi is neat. But Sasuke? Deidara? Please).
What Senshi said about this post..

This fight is just getting damn annoying. It's just going around in circles, is not going to end nicely and it's gonna be a pointless (unless some great thing happens that makes the battle worthwhile [even Sasuke's entrance would make it somewhat worthwhile, at least for me]).

Demonshadow9

02-17-2006, 04:53 PM

I stoped reading way back when the sakura and the old lady killed the puppet kid. Anyone want to fill me in on what has happened.

Pedro The Hutt

02-17-2006, 05:15 PM

my sentiments exactly...

I mean the fighting was what made Naruto NOT be DBZ IMO... It had actually interesting and smart fights in the beginning... the nins had to use their various jutsus in creative ways in order to top each other... now adays its just about who has "TEH POWA!!!"
Ironically Dragonball itself took the very same path. Ah... it used to be such a swell manga.

I mean seriously tho... this thing is turning into DBZ... Unbelievably powerful energy attacks... crazy transformations... increasingly less useful side characters... "powered/charged up" attacks... all it needs is extended "heavy panting" scenes and blurred "omg the punches are so fast" hand to hand and it is DBZ

Well, half of the manga that do appear in Shounen Jump nowadays borrow from DB, the current generation of mangaka grew up eagerly reading Son Goku's adventures. It's to be expected really. XD

jetfire

02-17-2006, 06:28 PM

I stoped reading way back when the sakura and the old lady killed the puppet kid. Anyone want to fill me in on what has happened.

You're not missing out on much. They get back to town, meet a new cocky member that goes on their team, plus an anbu member joins their team as their leader (who I think had some genes from the first or third hokage put into him. I forget, or I've stopped caring. Cant really decide). After that, Naruto, Sakura and the other two go to a bridge to meet a spy that knows where Sasuke is. It's really Kabuto and Orochimaru is with him. They fight, Naruto gets pissed and has his demon fox form sprout up to four tails, making him cause a bunch of pointless DBZ type destruction. As said, the fight is going in circles.

You know what the funny thing is? For some reason, I bet the animated version of this fight may end up like the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight, and everyone will be blown away. Remember how we all complained about how the Naruto vs Sasuke fight dragged on so horribly? It'd be nice if we at least got this fight animated later in the same fashion.

Senshi

02-17-2006, 09:02 PM

Ironically Dragonball itself took the very same path. Ah... it used to be such a swell manga.

This is true...

I read somewhere that history repeats itself... the first time is tragedy the second time is farce :P

Well, half of the manga that do appear in Shounen Jump nowadays borrow from DB, the current generation of mangaka grew up eagerly reading Son Goku's adventures. It's to be expected really. XD

I dont know about being expected... I would expect them to try and strike out their own path and find new and creative ways to tell an action story...

but I guess that may be asking too much...

Kei

02-18-2006, 03:00 AM

Lets recap what happens in this chapter.

-Naruto shoots a beam. of blood. Fat-kyuubi wins.
-Orochimaru effortlessly blocks it with some gates.
-Orochimaru, now pissed, comes at Naruto with the Kusanagi sword
-Naruto gets stabbed by the very long sword, and blown off to the distance, obviously doing no real harm but making him even more angry.
-Kabuto says some dumb shit
-Sakura looks in awe
-Yamoto makes a "Oh shit I better do something about this" comment for the 10th chapter in a row.

This all sounds interesting, but I couldn't be more bored.

At least Bleach and One Piece are still good.

~Kei

Pedro The Hutt

02-18-2006, 06:08 AM

Corpse

02-18-2006, 10:48 AM

i agree with kei...i'd like some plot development instead of kamehameha wars.

DarkKanti

02-18-2006, 05:56 PM

Eh, I'm not giving up my faith in Kishimoto just yet, he managed to entertain me for over 290 chapters so far, he's entitled to a lesser period. XD Although honestly I don't think it's a lesser period. >.>;; Perhaps I'm just easily amused.

Agreed. I mean, it's a pretty cool fight so far. Sure, it's not really going anywhere, but I'm having my fun right now. Of course, that doesn't mean I wouldn't like some plot development.

You know what the funny thing is? For some reason, I bet the animated version of this fight may end up like the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight, and everyone will be blown away. Remember how we all complained about how the Naruto vs Sasuke fight dragged on so horribly? It'd be nice if we at least got this fight animated later in the same fashion.

Yeah, I was getting that feeling as well. Unfortunately it's probably going to be a while until this part gets animated. :(

KiraraKim

02-19-2006, 07:09 AM

I agree with everyone else's sentiment the latest chapters of Naruto have been dull. Kei's summary was the first time I was able to actually understand what was going on in the chapters besides Naruto turning into the fox and fighting Orochimaru. Yawn!

Of course I was just reading volume 9 of the manga (the chuunin exam) and then I remembered why I liked this story in the first place.

jetfire

02-23-2006, 12:44 PM

Wow. At least chapter 296 was pretty good out of the whole fight. I'm glad to see Naruto exiting his Hulk form, and the element of Sai acting as a messenger is pretty intriguing.

Kabuto and Sai are kind of confusing. It's hard to tell both of their objectives. You don't know if either will end up benefiting Kohona or Orochimaru. I'm interested to see how it all plays out.

Also, it looks like Sasuke's time is running short, although I can't see Sasuke just becoming a vessel (making everyone wait for his appearance, only to be killed off). I'm guessing now that Orochimaru is weak, Sasuke will either kill him or abandon him. As a result, Orochimaru will die, or have to find a quick replacement.

DarkKanti

02-23-2006, 07:40 PM

Also, it looks like Sasuke's time is running short, although I can't see Sasuke just becoming a vessel (making everyone wait for his appearance, only to be killed off). I'm guessing now that Orochimaru is weak, Sasuke will either kill him or abandon him. As a result, Orochimaru will die, or have to find a quick replacement.

Yeah, Kishimoto won't kill off Sasuke so easily, but I don't think Oro will die so easily either. Maybe he'll use Kabuto for his replacement?

Senshi

02-24-2006, 03:21 AM

Ooo that end is very interesting... like Jetfire said its getting kinda interesting to see what Sai and Kabuto have planned...

Also for Sasu/Saku "pushers" (or whatever the term is) like myself it looks bleak... Sakura running to save Naruto hmm... chances are shes fallin for him...

But hopefully this fight will end with the eventual reappearance of Sasuke...

and I really hope Sasuke doesnt turn into a full-blown villain, cause while in some respects it would be "original" I think in alot of respects it would go against his character...

like I said before... hes Batman... :batman:

Pedro The Hutt

02-24-2006, 05:35 AM

Eh, it wouldn't be the first time a so called avenger ended up becoming just as evil, if not even moreso than the evil he swore to fight. And Sasuke never was very concerned about morals to begin with.

jetfire

02-24-2006, 01:52 PM

like I said before... hes Batman... :batman:

Or Darth Vader.

And DK, I was also thinking the same thing that he might catch onto Kabuto's plans and use him as a vessel. The only thing is, is that he needs someone to help him while he's weak and look after the vessel itself. So Kabuto may be out of the question, since I recall him relying heavily on Kabuto to keep him alive while he waits for the right moment to use a vessel. However, Oro may have also gotten by just fine without Kabuto in the past.

genki sakura

02-26-2006, 04:06 PM

No! He's the love child of Batman and Darth Vader. ;)

Ooo that end is very interesting... like Jetfire said its getting kinda interesting to see what Sai and Kabuto have planned...

Also for Sasu/Saku "pushers" (or whatever the term is) like myself it looks bleak... Sakura running to save Naruto hmm... chances are shes fallin for him...
"shippers" I think is the term (I'm one of them...^_^;;)....maybe she's not falling for him though (because if they end up together the Hina/Naru shippers will be setting cars on fire)...but running to save just out of friendship and teammate-ship (bwa! New word-term-thingy!) and because like any sane person (then again, who really is sane in this story? Akamaru?), they would also want to save their friend.

There was also a slight tinge of guilt, imo, in why she was running to save him. Same thing back in the Chuunin Exam and she had to defend Sasuke and Naruto. She was feeling slightly guilty for being so useless that she had to rely on them. So it's the same here. She feels guilty that Naruto's had to go through with all of this just because of a promise he made to her.

heh, you're a sasu/saku fan too...another victim has joined us, bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!...heh, wonders never cease...

But hopefully this fight will end with the eventual reappearance of Sasuke...

and I really hope Sasuke doesnt turn into a full-blown villain, cause while in some respects it would be "original" I think in alot of respects it would go against his character...

like I said before... hes Batman... :batman:
Please, please, please, can his appearance be the end of this fight.

I kinda hope he doesn't become evil. I mean, he's already evil, right? He joined Orochimaru, betrayed the leaf, wanted/tried to kill his best friend....

And DK, I was also thinking the same thing that he might catch onto Kabuto's plans and use him as a vessel. The only thing is, is that he needs someone to help him while he's weak and look after the vessel itself. So Kabuto may be out of the question, since I recall him relying heavily on Kabuto to keep him alive while he waits for the right moment to use a vessel. However, Oro may have also gotten by just fine without Kabuto in the past.
Yeah, but he might be relying on Kabuto on the past so heavily to make Kabuto think that he would never turn on him and use him as a vessel.

But then, what the hell would end up with Sasuke if he never became the vessel (granted, I really wouldn't want him to be the vessel anyway...)? Just run off into the sunset on his crusade to kill his brother?

Senshi

02-26-2006, 08:21 PM

"shippers" I think is the term (I'm one of them...^_^;;)....maybe she's not falling for him though (because if they end up together the Hina/Naru shippers will be setting cars on fire)...but running to save just out of friendship and teammate-ship (bwa! New word-term-thingy!) and because like any sane person (then again, who really is sane in this story? Akamaru?), they would also want to save their friend.

There was also a slight tinge of guilt, imo, in why she was running to save him. Same thing back in the Chuunin Exam and she had to defend Sasuke and Naruto. She was feeling slightly guilty for being so useless that she had to rely on them. So it's the same here. She feels guilty that Naruto's had to go through with all of this just because of a promise he made to her.

Yah that sounds like a reasonable explaination... but I mean its so hard to tell sometimes, cause there are these scenes where its like Sakura notices how much Naruto cares about her, and she gets this look on her face...

like the time Sasuke told her that it was Naruto that saved her from Gaara... and when Sakura first saw Naruto again after a couple of years...

Then again she still gets crazy angry when people talk about Sasuke (but Naruto does too)... and that whole scene where they last saw each other you can kinda see the emotion...

I donno its just very hard to tell is all...

heh, you're a sasu/saku fan too...another victim has joined us, bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!...heh, wonders never cease...

Ive always been one since the start of the manga... after all who else is always on this thread defending Sasuke from the haters... (sometimes I think im like the only heterosexual guy who likes him on the planet)...

Cause I think (well, hope at least) that Sakura genuinely loves him (even tho I would like a scene that explains why - like a flashback)... I think that she realizes that he is a "lost soul"... that it isnt just because hes "the cool kid"... (that maybe it started that way but she realized a few things)... like I think Ino woulda given up on him right about the time he got bit by Oro and got the seal on him... like Sakura realizes the only reason he has been cold with her is because he doesnt want to drag her down with him in his fall to the dark side...

Well I guess all will be apparent when she sees him again... And if she does go with Naruto I will be with the NaruXHina people in our Lakers-just-won-the-championship-esque riot through the streets...

Please, please, please, can his appearance be the end of this fight.

* Senshi joins GS in prayer.

I kinda hope he doesn't become evil. I mean, he's already evil, right? He joined Orochimaru, betrayed the leaf, wanted/tried to kill his best friend....

Yeah he has done some evil things but hes not like "evil incarnate" (like Itachi and the rest of the Akatsuki)... He doesnt kill for the sake of killing, he feels that he is the "avenger" and just wants to "remove" people from his way of accomplishing his goal.... like he does evil things for what he considers the greater good...

and we must not forget he actually did have a chance at killing Naruto... while he may have just not killed him it cause it would be what Itachi wanted, I think he did it because he is sincerely good deep down and has just had a buncha shit that happened to turn him into such a prick...

Not to mention, has he ever killed anyone? honestly... Worst he has done is betrayed Konoha, but I dont think he necessarly did it to do Konoha harm (i.e. like some act of sabotage), he just didnt consider the consequences of his actions (or didnt care enough to)....

and just to add... anybody know what the hell happened to "inner Sakura" voice? is it gone becauise she has grown up or is Kishimoto just tired of it (or both)?

General Suburbia

02-26-2006, 09:03 PM

You know what the funny thing is? For some reason, I bet the animated version of this fight may end up like the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight, and everyone will be blown away. Remember how we all complained about how the Naruto vs Sasuke fight dragged on so horribly? It'd be nice if we at least got this fight animated later in the same fashion.
Which fight are you referring to? I don't remember any Naruto vs Sasuke fights that blew me away.

Ninja Realist

02-26-2006, 09:27 PM

Which fight are you referring to? I don't remember any Naruto vs Sasuke fights that blew me away.

Go watch Episode 134 of Naruto, it was ****ing amazing. Hands down one of the best fight scenes in anime, EVER!

General Suburbia

02-27-2006, 01:28 AM

I'm hoping you were being sarcastic or are referring to the wrong episode, because there was only about 2 minutes of "fighting" in that episode - a majority of that time featuring the two hurtling towards each other in slow motion, showcasing their pathetically overused signature moves, and ending with the oh-so-epic finish of Sasuke and Naruto floating around each other in a pink bubble, revealing some almost-subtle homosexual tendencies (no offense to anyone if they are), only to go back to numerous shots of the heroic exhausted-from-battle-and-fainted Naruto (typical) and emo/angsty Sasuke, muttering away to himself while dramatically walking away into the darkness that obviously leads right into Orichimaru (even more typical).

And Kakashi was there too, jumping on trees while talking to his dog.

The above rant was probably the sleep and disappointment talking, but that was definately one of the worst fights in Naruto, forshadowing its already dbz-esque nature.

DarkKanti

02-27-2006, 02:13 AM

You didn't enjoy that fight? Wow. You're the first person I've met who didn't. I have to agree with Realist on this one. It's one of the best fight scenes in anime.

Ninja Realist

02-27-2006, 04:17 AM

Pedro The Hutt

02-27-2006, 06:52 AM

and just to add... anybody know what the hell happened to "inner Sakura" voice? is it gone becauise she has grown up or is Kishimoto just tired of it (or both)?

I think it's because she simply speaks her mind more often now. Back in the old days she'd keep alot of her thoughts to herself, which would get expressed through Inner-Sakura to the reader. But now that, thanks to Tsunade's influence no doubt, she expresses herself far more often there's no need for that. Or at least, that's my theory.

As an aside I don't think Sasu/Saku works. XD The biggest sign of affection he's ever given her is saying "You really are annoying". In general he's a wee bit too obsessed about killing his oniichan to even be remotely interested in girls.

Senshi

02-27-2006, 07:58 AM

As an aside I don't think Sasu/Saku works. XD The biggest sign of affection he's ever given her is saying "You really are annoying". In general he's a wee bit too obsessed about killing his oniichan to even be remotely interested in girls.

Well the whole thing is that after all this crap goes down is when it happens- after the Oro business and the killing of the brother... Like I think Sasuke has always liked her, and if he had a normal childhood would have probably gotten together with her... like we see evidence of that in the whole scene where they are last together... Sakura, making her heartfelt plea for Sasuke to stay, but Sasuke knows he cannot, and thanks her for her kindness, and knocks her out so she cannot follow him and get herself involved with his fall to evil...

Like I think the whole reason he doesnt say more than "Youre annoying" to anyone is simply because he doesnt want to make emotional attachments to people, because of course at the time if he ever made a best friend he would have to kill them for Mange Sharingan... Also, I think in alot of ways he already considers himself dead - he feels that it is pointless to make these attachments because he is dead on the inside and has essentially turned himself into this heartless avenger...

I don't know... maybe Im just sentimental, but I hope that its just one of those things where Sakura's love can save Sasuke from the darkness that he is in... That Sasuke will realize that there are greater things to life than revenge...

But of course this doesnt mean its gonna happen... like I said i just think there is more and more evidence every chapter to point to the contrary and I have a really bad record for trying to guess which couples are gonna stay together in these things... Also, what are the chances that kishimoto has made Sasuke as complex a character as I have made him in my mind...

regardless I can still hope cant I?

jetfire

02-27-2006, 08:09 AM

No Bloom, you're talking about episode 135, I'm talking about the episode before that one. Trust me, it was awesome. Go do yourself a favor and re-watch Naruto 134, cause it seems like you don't remember it.

Actually Ninja Realist, you were really talking about episode 133. Episode 133 is the awesome episode Bloom. It's the one with the silky smooth animation. Naruto and Sasuke, start off in their regular forms, then Naruto gains the demon fox shaped chakra around him. There are certain parts like when Naruto grabs Sasuke by the ankles, swings him around with his chain linked kage bunshin, and smashes him into the side of the canyon. Then Sasuke uses his fire jutsu to burn the chain of Narutos, then piledrives him into the rock below. Then Naruto's chakra takes the shape of the demon fox. The episode after that is where they have another Rasangan vs Chidori finish. The reason the episode blew most people away was because the fight scene had such great animation, that it made it so much more fun to watch, then reading it in the manga.

Ninja Realist

02-27-2006, 09:17 AM

regardless I can still hope cant I?

Sasu x Saku is the only possibility. There is no****ing way that she is getting her hands on Naruto.

If Naruto doesn't die, which is a possibility I think, he is going to end up with Hinata, period, the end. You can tell me otherwise if you want, but I'm not hearing it. If Kishimoto deviates from that, well I might just stop reading Naruto altogether.

I repeat:

NARU X HINA OR DEATH

Itachi Uchiha

02-27-2006, 09:27 AM

I see no hope for Sasuke and Sakura... It's a completely unrequited love. Sasuke sole purpose in life is to kill Itachi, after he accomplishes that he won’t have a reason to go on living. I see more of a chance for Naruto and Sakura than I’ve ever seen for Sasuke and Sakura. The only person that Sasuke has shown any affection for is Naruto! They have the same kind of background, he admires qualities Naruto has that he doesn’t, and he didn’t kill him when he had the chance. Yep, Naruto and Sasuke were just made to be gay lovers!.

Sasuke is going to die alone...

Senshi

02-27-2006, 11:24 AM

bah I would expect somebody who is a fan of such an evil douche like Itachi to say that... I cant wait to see him get Chidori'd through the chest...

but I still think there is hope for Sasuke... I mean whats the point of Naruto and Sakura looking for Sasuke if there wasnt some shred of hope that they could save him from such a fate?

And to realist yes I agree with that pairing as well, maybe not with as much adamance (is that a word? if not I just made it up - use it in your term papers) as SasuXSaku but I still think they would make the best possible pairing for Naruto...

if only Hinata got more page time...

General Suburbia

02-27-2006, 03:58 PM

Senshi, don't worry about the Sasu/Saku relationship yet. Sasuke just hasn't reached puberty yet. He was only 12 or so when he ran away.

And chances are, the Naruto/Hinata thing will never be resolved, although somewhere in the last chapter will be some subtle hint about their own future. I just don't see the Naruto manga as one that will tie all loose ends.

DarkKanti

02-27-2006, 07:42 PM

bah I would expect somebody who is a fan of such an evil douche like Itachi to say that... I cant wait to see him get Chidori'd through the chest...

Heh, that totally made me lol.

While we're on the subject of pairings... I think that Naruto is probably going to end up with Sakura. I have a theory that after Sasuke kills his brother Itachi, he might take his place in Akatsuki and cut off all remaining ties with Konoha. I don't know. I could only see him as an interesting character if he were a bad guy. I don't really see him sparking up any long lasting relationships with any female characters.

About the Naruto/Hinata thing, I'd like to see them together, but I just don't see it actually happening. At this point they're just friends. Naruto's too dumb to see her in any different way and she's too shy to make him see her in any other way. Honestly, they are what I hope will happen, but at this point Saku/Naru just seems so much more realistic.

General Suburbia

02-27-2006, 09:41 PM

Actually Ninja Realist, you were really talking about episode 133. Episode 133 is the awesome episode Bloom. It's the one with the silky smooth animation. Naruto and Sasuke, start off in their regular forms, then Naruto gains the demon fox shaped chakra around him. There are certain parts like when Naruto grabs Sasuke by the ankles, swings him around with his chain linked kage bunshin, and smashes him into the side of the canyon. Then Sasuke uses his fire jutsu to burn the chain of Narutos, then piledrives him into the rock below. Then Naruto's chakra takes the shape of the demon fox. The episode after that is where they have another Rasangan vs Chidori finish. The reason the episode blew most people away was because the fight scene had such great animation, that it made it so much more fun to watch, then reading it in the manga.
Episode 133:

The first 3 and a half minutes of the fight was awesome with Naruto pummelling Sasuke. Very fun to watch. The rest of the fight, until the last 3 minutes (when Naruto began pummelling him again) was without a doubt well animated, but too, well, Advent Children like. Too much flying and unbelievable kungfu.

I much preferred Sasuke's first encounter with Orichimaru.

Pedro The Hutt

02-28-2006, 06:56 AM

Episode 133:

The first 3 and a half minutes of the fight was awesome with Naruto pummelling Sasuke. Very fun to watch. The rest of the fight, until the last 3 minutes (when Naruto began pummelling him again) was without a doubt well animated, but too, well, Advent Children like. Too much flying and unbelievable kungfu.

Only thing is, that part in the manga probably appeared well before Advent Children did.

Senshi

02-28-2006, 08:32 AM

Only thing is, that part in the manga probably appeared well before Advent Children did.

well what I think Bloom is getting at is that hes not accusing the animators of ripping off the Square-Enix Animators... hes just commenting on how he doesnt really care for the flying around wire-fu-esque fighting I think...

Pedro The Hutt

02-28-2006, 11:21 AM

In that case. =D I didn't mind, it was used in moderation compared to other movies/manga/anime.

genki sakura

02-28-2006, 06:47 PM

While we're on the subject of pairings... I think that Naruto is probably going to end up with Sakura. I have a theory that after Sasuke kills his brother Itachi, he might take his place in Akatsuki and cut off all remaining ties with Konoha. I don't know. I could only see him as an interesting character if he were a bad guy. I don't really see him sparking up any long lasting relationships with any female characters.
But why would Sasuke want to take his brother's place in the Akatsuki? I can see him killing members of the Akatsuki to get to his brother, so it wouldn't make him a very popular member, if a member at all. Yes, the members are ruthless, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't slightly hate Sasuke for killing Itachi. But if Sasuke were to die at the hands of the Akatsuki...damn that's anticlimactic. And he was trained by Orochimaru. And if he wanted to cut his ties with Konoha he can go into a cave in some random mountain and live as a recluse.....

....making love to his brother's Akatsuki coat to try and revive the clan....(like in the fanfic called "Sasuke gets ?" by nagibook on ff.net ;))

About the Naruto/Hinata thing, I'd like to see them together, but I just don't see it actually happening. At this point they're just friends. Naruto's too dumb to see her in any different way and she's too shy to make him see her in any other way. Honestly, they are what I hope will happen, but at this point Saku/Naru just seems so much more realistic.

Like Ninja Realist said: "NARUXHINA OR DEATH" (^.-)

And besides, Naruto's a boy with a one track mind (become Hokage, with the occasional tangent of Ramen). Maybe if/when he becomes Hokage, I think that then he would notice Hinata's feelings. Dammit, if only Hinata had a bit of confidence to glomp Naruto, all would be right in the world. And if Sakura and Naruto get together, then it would almost be like the stereotypical: "And in the end, the hero always get the girl." (And while that might work in Yu Yu Hakusho, for example, [but then again, there was no question to if Keiko and Yusuke were made for each other], I don't think it would work for Naruto. Then again, one can argue the same for if Sakura were to get Sasuke, but I think it would be a lot more of "awwww" than "damn, how predictable", especially with Sasuke's treatment of her. And again, who knows how he's changed over the 2.5 time jump. For all anyone knows, he could be a perverted nut with a mean Chidori being trained by El Snako-sennin).

And I don't think that Sakura would fall for Naruto unless Sasuke dies. But even then, it would depend...

now my turn to scream something:

SASUXSAKU OR DEATH!

yay!

I see no hope for Sasuke and Sakura... It's a completely unrequited love. Sasuke sole purpose in life is to kill Itachi, after he accomplishes that he won’t have a reason to go on living. I see more of a chance for Naruto and Sakura than I’ve ever seen for Sasuke and Sakura. The only person that Sasuke has shown any affection for is Naruto! They have the same kind of background, he admires qualities Naruto has that he doesn’t, and he didn’t kill him when he had the chance. Yep, Naruto and Sasuke were just made to be gay lovers!.

Sasuke is going to die alone...
Remember, that Sasuke hasn't surfaced yet, so his personality could've altered with the time jump. And I don't think that after he accomplishes killing Itachi that Sasuke won't have any reason to go on living. He's avenged his clan's murder, so now he can live in peace (man, how "out of a fanfic" did that sound?).

And the whole "Thank you" moment in Chapter 181 means nothing?

I can see all the yaoi fangirls bowing down to you for the "Yep, Naruto and Sasuke were just made to be gay lovers!" comment.

I don't think he's gonna die alone. Just wouldn't make sense. There has to be the dramatics of people being around him when he dies.

(I have to stop reading fanfiction....)

General Suburbia

02-28-2006, 08:42 PM

Remember, that Sasuke hasn't surfaced yet, so his personality could've altered with the time jump. And I don't think that after he accomplishes killing Itachi that Sasuke won't have any reason to go on living. He's avenged his clan's murder, so now he can live in peace (man, how "out of a fanfic" did that sound?).

And the whole "Thank you" moment in Chapter 181 means nothing?
If anything, Sasuke's personality would most likely have changed for the worse. What logical reason could you give that would have Sasuke turn out to be a nice guy after staying three years with Orichimaru? That "thank you" felt more like a thank you between close friends, not lovers.

Sasuke will probably live the happy ending, even if it is out of character. This kind of story doesn't allow for realistic endings, only happy ones. Most likely, if he does kill his brother, Sasuke will feel as if he has no reason for living (he's spent his whole life living for the sole purpose for doing so and only so), but some incredible revelation will dawn upon him, helping him live happily ever after.

(I have to stop reading fanfiction....)
That thing is poison. And crap.

Senshi

03-02-2006, 12:19 PM

Chapter 297...

Yeah... I think we can declare SasuXSaku dead (and by default NaruXHina - which is ironic cause Hinata is on the cover... prob the last time we will see her heh)... prepare the riots...

The Pages in Question:

Page 9 (http://home.sc.rr.com/iconoclasm/pictures/n297-09.jpg)
Page 10 (http://home.sc.rr.com/iconoclasm/pictures/n297-10.jpg)

Hero gets the girl again I guess...

While it isnt indisputable evidence, a blind retarded monkey could see where this is going...

all I can say is... Fcuk. :thud:

Honestly for me personally this manga is getting less and less tolerable to read... the DBZ-esque battles... the drawn out plot... my favorite character Sasuke STILL nowhere to be found... and now the one thing I was hoping for is pretty much shot...

Now I guess Sasuke really does only have his revenge to live for...

And with this development more than likely hes going to be a pure villian now... I cant see how this would end good for him...

Interesting to see what Sai is up to however... guess Ill keep checkin in to see where that goes...

Pedro The Hutt

03-02-2006, 03:10 PM

Strange... the scanlation I read said something ENTIRELY different in those pages. >.>;; Maybe those scanlators are blinded by Naru/Saku bias. XD

Ninja Realist

03-02-2006, 03:33 PM

SOMEBODY IS GOING TO DIE FOR THIS!!!

Senshi

03-02-2006, 04:08 PM

Strange... the scanlation I read said something ENTIRELY different in those pages. >.>;; Maybe those scanlators are blinded by Naru/Saku bias. XD

hmm... if the translation I have ends up being bullshit well then thats the last time I get my scanslations there for sure... cause i mean this thing has given me alot of heartache

but im checking for a nother translation now...

*Edit*Ok I went to mangahelpers and looked at several peoples translations... while their translations all varied slightly in terms of wording the basic story all pretty much concurs with the scans I posted in the previous link.

so to reiterate: fcuk. :thud:

Realist... there is killin' to be done.

NEJI_HYUGA8876

03-02-2006, 05:13 PM

Theres Nothing Wrong About The Revenge Of Sasuke Bec Itachi Killed There Parents Which Is Very Disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jetfire

03-02-2006, 06:42 PM

Pedro The Hutt

03-03-2006, 05:57 AM

Actually, I think that Kishimoto would be quite capable of pulling a Takahashi, that, much like in Ranma ½, by the time the manga is actually over the coupling possibilities are STILL entirely open to debate.

Speaking of which, those two are turning more and more Ranma/Akane by the day.. or should I say Jiraiya/Tsunade.

Senshi

03-03-2006, 09:23 AM

Meh...I don't find the Naruto and Sakura thing as horrible or too predictable. I think it would have been way more predictable if Sasuke ended up with Sakura, since she was obsessing about him throughout the start and most of the series. And the Naruto and Hinata thing would have been so predictable too, since that's the only relative romantic interest that a female had in Naruto. I think it's good to see the change in Sakura's appreciation for Naruto since the start of the series (calling him annoying). And just look at all Naruto has done for her, while Sasuke has done so little by comparison (yes, I know there were a few times where he protected her, as well as thanked her). While Sasuke did care for her as well, you can tell that Naruto cared a whole lot more about her. Not just about whether she lived or died, but her feelings as well (like the promise he made her). Naruto may not have had a romantic interest in Sakura, but he cared for her on a whole other level.

I can see where your coming from not thinking that it was horrible, since only people whose favorite character was Sasuke or was rooting for SasuXSaku (or NaruXHina) would find it so...

However, the whole situation was entirely cliche, if not predictable... Hero gets the girl... how cliche is that... I mean even the whole "loves one guy for a minute until she realizes her true feelings" switcheroo thing has been done... also the whole "I like to punch him because I really like him" thing has been done too... Its like effing Love Hina all over again...

I was actually pulling for Sasuke, in part, because it wouldnt be so cliche (even if it was perhaps predictable)... I mean honestly, when has the lone wolf rival semi-villian got "the girl"?

I guess why I was really hoping for that paring is because Sasuke really has nobody now... Naruto always had Hinata to fall back on plus I thought Sasu and Saku were supposed to be like his "brother and sister"

I mean if Sakura and Naruto pair up then its like "well... why are we after Sasuke anyways... we have each other" type deal... Sakura went after Sasuke cause she (supposedly) loved him, and Naruto went after Sasuke cause he promised Sakura... Now its like "whats the point"... Their whole search just isnt believable with this development...

Maybe Sasuke always recognized this whole tension between the two of them... thats why like when Naruto's like "your like my brother" hes like "bullshit" and when Sakura came to him that one night and he said "thanks" he was more like "thanks... for that bullshit sentiment"...

bleh I better stop thinking about it... all it does is depress me...