Naruto, the hokage!?

[Akimichi Choji]

I thought it was a great chapter, although they dragged out the "Its a lie" part from Sasuke a bit much. But man, this chapter may have proven to me that kishimoto may actually know what he is doing. Nicely done I must say.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Yet it doesn't explain the role Madara has right now.

Too many questions that could have been answered in his chapter. Except we are constantly retold that Itachi was a hero. To be honest, this chapter didn't tell anything really new or useful.

I'll also mention it kind of threw away Team Hebi's original use.

After what I believe is an entire month of explaining why Itachi, who I believe was the most dynamic /pure/ villan in the series, isn't a villan at all, I really would like to see the others. Regardless of what good explanation Kishimoto gave, it really isn't anything that saves this series as it is now.

We have a prophecy that Naruto has to keep.
We have Akatsuki who's leader was actually a lapdog of Madara it seems, the same person who's building Itachi to be a hero. That's confusing.

I honestly don't know just what the hell's going on anymore.

It would be nice if the series once again focused on Naruto's actual path, not the path of bringing back his brother figure. I think that's what's gotten me angry; the fact that nothing is really being explained, but more is being added on to be explained later, which results in what will probably be a 3-4 issue explanation of the /real plan/.

[Itachi Uchiha]

It would be nice if the series once again focused on Naruto's actual path, not the path of bringing back his brother figure.

Well, it's probably just going to cut back to naruto training to master some new technique... to match up with sasuke...
In the future sasuke might even go crazy and attack the village of the leaf to avenge itachi... (which might be madara's scheme)

I kind of like how things are playing out at the moment.

[triggerman]

Well, it's probably just going to cut back to naruto training to master some new technique... to match up with sasuke...
In the future sasuke might even go crazy and attack the village of the leaf to avenge itachi... (which might be madara's scheme)

I kind of like how things are playing out at the moment.

i kind of like that idea you have there about sasuke. that would be interesting.

[Hideki]

After what I believe is an entire month of explaining why Itachi, who I believe was the most dynamic /pure/ villan in the series, isn't a villan at all, I really would like to see the others. Regardless of what good explanation Kishimoto gave, it really isn't anything that saves this series as it is now.


For those of you that didn't see this coming... SHAME ON YOU!! It was pretty obvious the whole entire time that Itachi had more motives than what was blatantly said. The reason why Itachi killed his clan was deliberately left open to conspiracy theories. Hinting that there was more to Itachi than just being evil. There where also other instances throughout the manga that foreshadowed this event. For those that thought he was pure evil.. all i can say is.... anata wa BAKA desu!!!!

I will say though that these past few month's have been disappointing compared to that what led up too and including, the climatic battle b2wn naruto and sasuke.
*spoiler alert * Pervert senin dying wasn't that good, and neither was the long expected Sasuke/Itachi/Orochimaru showing up fight *end spoiler alert *

Kinda peeves me off that they basically ended the 3 legendary senin group just like that. Oh wellz

Kishimoto still has time to redeem himself.

Hopefully if (and i'm expecting it) they skip ahead to the adult phase, it won't continue its lame spiral down.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Just the fact that Kishimoto fell into the actual stereotypical scenario of turning Itachi into a good guy is horrid. Regardless of hints, it would have been better if the bad stays the bad. Itachi's own individuality loses significance merely by the fact that he's become the stereotypical hero who sacrifices everything for his loved ones. We don't /need/ anymore heroes like that; Kishimoto should focus on the heroes he has now instead of making new ones to open new doors for the story. We have so many underdeveloped characters it's not even funny anymore. Even Sai, who played a big part just recently, is, like everyone else, playing second fiddle. We don't need Itachi, a man who looked better as a bad guy IMHO, to be one of the goody2shoes.

I'll also throw in how weak Akatsuki looks now.

[Illjwamh]

So now Sasuke is the new Big Bad, which is what I've been expecting all along. And he has the Mangekyou Sharingan, though we don't know what his does. Something ridiculous, I'm sure.

Except his motives don't make any sense. He appears to have reconciled with his brother posthumously, then turns around and disregards everything his brother did by setting out to do the exact opposite. Itachi gave everything for the village, so now you're going to destroy it? Wtf?


Madara must be happy. He played Sasuke like a fiddle. Exactly what Itachi didn't want (again).

[Itachi Uchiha]

So now Sasuke is the new Big Bad, which is what I've been expecting all along. And he has the Mangekyou Sharingan, though we don't know what his does. Something ridiculous, I'm sure.

Except his motives don't make any sense. He appears to have reconciled with his brother posthumously, then turns around and disregards everything his brother did by setting out to do the exact opposite. Itachi gave everything for the village, so now you're going to destroy it? Wtf?


Madara must be happy. He played Sasuke like a fiddle. Exactly what Itachi didn't want (again).

I agree

However, the story needed a new tough bad guy now that the akatsuki are a bunch or pushovers that seem to be dropping like flies... Who else could fill the vacant evil bad guy group but Madara and Sasuke little gang.

[PassiveObserver]

Well that chapter was the biggest load of bs I've ever seen in my entire life. I can only put up with so many shenanigans before I start to get annoyed. Sasuke is suppose to be intelligent, by what logical thought process do you conclude that in order to avenge your brother you must destroy the very village he sought to protect? Complete and total bs, he's got zero motivation, this is by far the worst plot development in all of naruto. Also I think Sasuke's new sharingon is just silly.

[Shadowmage]

I too thought that Sasuke would end up being the final villain, but this was a bit forced. The only reason my reaction wasn't totally negative is because 1. the manga hasn't been all that good in a long time 2. Sasuke lived his entire life with hate, so I'm not too surprised he's willing to burn everything for his own ego.

The new Sharingan looks like it's made of delicious hacks. Whatever, who didn't think that it was get the Super Saiya-jin treatment?

[Hideki]

So now Sasuke is the new Big Bad, which is what I've been expecting all along. And he has the Mangekyou Sharingan, though we don't know what his does. Something ridiculous, I'm sure.

Except his motives don't make any sense. He appears to have reconciled with his brother posthumously, then turns around and disregards everything his brother did by setting out to do the exact opposite. Itachi gave everything for the village, so now you're going to destroy it? Wtf?


Madara must be happy. He played Sasuke like a fiddle. Exactly what Itachi didn't want (again).

That doesn't mean he forgives konoha for killing his whole clan, including his parents!! Though it is stupid, if nething, sasuke should be trying to kill the elders, not all of konoha that looked after him while growing up

[Akimichi Choji]

Well although I am not entirely happy with Sasuke's new path, it makes sense. If you look at it from his point of view, Konoha set up the destruction of his entire clan and essentially sacrificed his brother (but more importantly, his relationship and perception of his brother) to achieve that end. Of course they had their reasons, but lets not give an insane kid anymore credit then to take the situation at face value. Konoha told Itachi to destroy the Uchiha, destroying Itachi's reputation and making him out to be a cold blooded killer thereby taking away the most influential person of Sasuke's young life.

[Hideki]

Some thing we must not forget, what we know is just what madara said. We shouldn't take it as face value, and I"m sure theres more too it than what was said. Poor sasuke and anime academy students cant seem to see past the illusions. In other words, you think you really know, but you really don't.. even now

[Shadowmage]

Some thing we must not forget, what we know is just what madara said. We shouldn't take it as face value, and I"m sure theres more too it than what was said. Poor sasuke and anime academy students cant seem to see past the illusions. In other words, you think you really know, but you really don't.. even now

You act as if this is some sort of loss. The Naruto manga is currently so far up its own ass that I stopped caring. However it pans out, there's a little part of my brain that's enjoying it, and that's all that matters to me.

[Hideki]

I'm not saying its a loss, I'm commenting on the fact that so many ppl's comments seem to believe madara 100%. There's obvioulsy more to it.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Hooray for dis-continuity!

Oh and

I agree

However, the story needed a new tough bad guy now that the akatsuki are a bunch or pushovers that seem to be dropping like flies... Who else could fill the vacant evil bad guy group but Madara and Sasuke little gang.

I disagree, adding a new even tougher bad guy will necessitate our heroes to learn even more ridiculously powerful techniques, making it even more blatantly clear that this show is turning out just like Dragonball. (and it's probably pressure from the Shounen Jump bigwigs this time as well that's causing it)

[triggerman]

either way u look at it if u go by what is happening, in the new era, sasuke is most definitely the strongest of the new age of ninja. with the exception of shikamaru's extremely hight Iq and battle tested prowess, naruto right now stands no chance against him.

Sasuke was also to easily manipulated by madara witch leads me maybe to believe that he could have had some kind of notion about what was going on before he even was brought to the light by madara. Remember that "secret" scroll he was told to look at by itachi? I think that held alot of answers he had about what was going on as well as more questions he needed to ask.....so when madara told him the low down that was the final factor for him to turn the page on the next chapter of Konoha's history. He was going into his confrontation with Itachi with two different resolves and im not sure what the other one was but the one he came up with was taking the battle back to Konoha.

also wat happened to Kisame? did the "Hawks" defeat him? if so wow!

[PassiveObserver]

So Itachi loaned Naruto some power it would seem (apparently he was good at this sort of thing), but what could it be? Did he implant some amaratsu like he did was Sasuke? Did he do a magical sharingon transplant (would stop reading the manga if he did)? Just what outrageous thing did he do, one must wonder.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Bleach is way more interesting that this load of bull now >>

Itachi suddenly has obvious hints of his goodness.... Great.... maybe if Sasuke remembered that last scene beforehand and we knew about it... we wouldn't be so surprised/pissed at Itachi's turn.

And Itachi gives Naruto powers too.... We don't even know what "that move" is yet that Jiraiya forbid, and now he has more moves.. and now everything rides in Naruto's ability to learn more techniques... not skill.. just jutsu stuff.. big.. bad... Spirit Ball jutsu stuff >> lol

[Shadowmage]

Bleach is way more interesting that this load of bull now >>

Sadly, I have to disagree. Bleach has more style, but it pulls the ZOMG, I've defeated the most powerful thing in the world! Now some guy who is bigger and badder than the most powerful thing in the world has appeared out of thin air!

The only positive thing about Naruto I can say is that many of the new ideas were established well before new arcs began. Everything is circling back to the whole Naruto v. Sasuke thing which existed from the beginning of time.

[PassiveObserver]

Sadly, I have to disagree. Bleach has more style, but it pulls the ZOMG, I've defeated the most powerful thing in the world! Now some guy who is bigger and badder than the most powerful thing in the world has appeared out of thin air!

I must disagree, Naruto has done the same thing, constantly stepping up the power of the villains in an almost DBZ like fashion. Just think about how pathetic Mizuki was compared to Zabuza, and how weak Zabuza was compared to Orochimaru, and Orochmaru to Itachi. Though I suppose the ridiculousness of the villains has probably peaked with Pain and Madara. It's pretty much the same deal with any anime centered around fighting.

[triggerman]

i mean by nature u have to reveal some body bigger and badder that is just how things work. But what power could Itachi have given to Naruto.....maybe the ability to unlock more of his Kyuubi power since the Uchiha have the power to "control" or "invoke" the nine tails.

[Erigion]

Arguing if Bleach is better than Naruto or vice versa is like arguing whether dog feces tastes better than horse feces.

[General Suburbia]

I'm sure there's a significant difference between the two.

[Natsuke Takeda]

in terms of enjoyment, I like Aizen's screwing of everyone than Itachi's saving of everyone >>

[Erigion]

I'm sure there's a significant difference between the two.
I'm sure there is, but they're both still feces.

By the way, I enjoy reading both manga no matter how stupid they are or how stupider they become.

[Akimichi Choji]

By the way, I enjoy reading both manga no matter how stupid they are or how stupider they become.

Thank you, I was waiting for someone to say that.

[Illjwamh]

...

And just like that, it's cool again.


Madara as the Mizukage? I didn't see that coming at all.

[KiraraKim]

I don't understand comparing Bleach and Naruto when you know One Piece is the better of three. :XD:

[PassiveObserver]

So Sasuke just wants to take out the higher ups, I guess that's reasonable. If he was going to lay waste to the village that'd piss me off, but I suppose taking out the elders seems logical enough. The guy in charge of root is a bit of an sob anyway. The only thing that puzzles me is how Madara managed to lay low while being the Mizukage.

[triggerman]

i mean he is just nice like dat.....plus i just want to add that even thou the "4th" was nice i wanna motion that the 1st was definitely way better than him. i mean he beat madara, founded konoha, built it from scratch, and had "several" tailed beast under his control and one point in time. got damn! and he is the only one who could ever use wood style....double damn!!

but my other question is.....where did pain wonder off too...like he wasn't even it the lil meeting they just showed being held. I mean they kno he aint dead.

[Shadowmage]

Okay, now that my original post has been misinterpreted by so many people, I'll go and clarify myself.

Sadly, I have to disagree. Bleach has more style, but it pulls the ZOMG, I've defeated the most powerful thing in the world! Now some guy who is bigger and badder than the most powerful thing in the world has appeared out of thin air!

The only positive thing about Naruto I can say is that many of the new ideas were established well before new arcs began. Everything is circling back to the whole Naruto v. Sasuke thing which existed from the beginning of time.
The thing I was more concerned about in my initial post was the overall story for Naruto and Bleach. Bleach's story was essentially one big build up for the Soul Society arc, whereas Naruto's story is one big build up for the Sasuke v. Naruto direction. The thing that irks me about Bleach (and not Naruto) is that the manga continued past what is has been building up to since forever. Imagine if the Berserk manga starts a whole new arc with brand new villains after Guts defeats Griffith. This is what Bleach did (except, Berserk is gold the size of the continental US while Naruto and Bleach share separate ends of a grain of sand).

I must disagree, Naruto has done the same thing, constantly stepping up the power of the villains in an almost DBZ like fashion. Just think about how pathetic Mizuki was compared to Zabuza, and how weak Zabuza was compared to Orochimaru, and Orochmaru to Itachi. Though I suppose the ridiculousness of the villains has probably peaked with Pain and Madara. It's pretty much the same deal with any anime centered around fighting.
I honestly do not see the logic in your argument given the examples you stated.

From the looks of it, Mizuki was a lower end Chunin, so it would be natural he would be so much weaker than everyone else (I'm throwing a mulligan on the fact that Naruto beat Mizuki because it's all too common in shounen action).

Zabuza only seemed weak because he was fighting Kakashi, one of the stronger ninjas of Konoha.

Orochimaru is at the same level as his peers while being more powerful than those younger than him.

Itachi fought Orochimaru who was in a severely weakened state.

Okay, my brain forces me to do this or I will be pissed off with the burning flames of hell. I admit that there are inconsistencies in power level, but they have not been all that glaring to me.

P.S. I am not trying to argue that Naruto as a whole is better than Bleach. It's just that the type of storytelling used in Naruto is more appealing to me than that of Bleach.

[triggerman]

even with all that said...i think one piece is still the cream of the crop as far as those three are concerned, but speaking of shonnen jump series i like Hikaru no Go better than all of them. that just my 2 cents.

[Illjwamh]

Sad!:(

You know, he doesn't do it very often, but when Kishimoto writes a tear-jerker, he does it in style.


This scene is going to be great in the anime.

*remembers the episode with Sandaime's funeral*

[Shadowmage]

I honestly didn't feel too sad while reading this chapter, but I could detect a sense of melancholy from the drawings and the overall flow of the chapter. If this show had more interesting characters then this chapter might have been a killer. (My problem is more with Naruto than Jiraiya)

[Natsuke Takeda]

Poor Shikamaru, always doing grunt work.

[Illjwamh]

It wasn't so much Naruto who got to me as it was Tsunade.

[Barrelhaven]

Poor Shikamaru, always doing grunt work.

Well, at least he's finally back in the fold of things. Hopefully, he'll have a bigger part than just "hey, I solved the riddle! *disappears for another bazillion chapters*".

[Natsuke Takeda]

As much as I like Shikamaru, they can at least focus on other shinobi members as well. So far, all the original genin members of the original series are just that; doing grunt work.

And man, Jiraiya's death doesn't seem at all that big in Konoha.

[PassiveObserver]

Poor Shikamaru, always doing grunt work.

I wouldn't say it's grunt work, he's probably the only person there intelligent enough to crack that code, in a decent amount of time that is. As far as focusing on the other shinobi, it has been quite a while since I've seen rock lee do anything.

[Illjwamh]

I was disappointed that Team 8 didn't end up doing anything. I was all excited when they joined the Jedi Squad, but then nothing came of it.

Ino and Chouji haven't really done much, either. Even on the "avenge Asuma" mission it was mostly Shikamaru who did all the work. And Kakashi and Naruto, of course.

[triggerman]

I wouldn't say it's grunt work, he's probably the only person there intelligent enough to crack that code, in a decent amount of time that is. As far as focusing on the other shinobi, it has been quite a while since I've seen rock lee do anything.

thats because Lee is garbage. I used to have high hopes for him but like i don't care about him any more. He isn't even entertaining to me now, he has nothing to offer....Sasuke has infinitely trumped his speed and like im
sure sakura can pack just a good a punch as him. and Naruto's perfected kaze rasengan is way more destructive than what we have seen from lee in his gate form. Like lee has never once defeated his opponent, he's a bum.

i want to see more from shikamaru( like everybody) and i "need" to see more from Kakashi. I need to see why Kakashi is such a genius, why he is so feared by rival ninja's, and I need to see him go all out to the death against an Akatsuki opponent. And i mean pull out every last stop he has in his arsenal, i need to know what he is capable of for real im sick of allusion to how "great" he is, i mean he the man that is "supposed" to be hokage worthy shit i aint seen it yet. He only beat one major opponent, zabuza, wow! big deal. in the main arc's im not including movies or side arcs.

[Akimichi Choji]

thats because Lee is garbage...

Like lee has never once defeated his opponent, he's a bum...

I need to see why Kakashi is such a genius, why he is so feared by rival ninja's...

He only beat one major opponent, zabuza, wow! big deal...

Do you guys hear anything? It could be someone talking about Naruto, or talking out of there a$$, but I am just going to assume its the wind.

Anywho, I still need more concrete proof of Jiraiya's death. And yes, there are many unutilized characters that need to be doing more. But the Sasuke invasion does open up for another Sand invasion situation where we get to see all out war, with every shinobi doing his/her part.

[triggerman]

Do you guys hear anything? It could be someone talking about Naruto, or talking out of there a$$, but I am just going to assume its the wind.

Anywho, I still need more concrete proof of Jiraiya's death. And yes, there are many unutilized characters that need to be doing more. But the Sasuke invasion does open up for another Sand invasion situation where we get to see all out war, with every shinobi doing his/her part.

Wow, I do not see anything wrong with what I said. Are those not facts? It is true about both Lee and Kakashi. I'm not saying I don't think Kakashi is nice, but we have really never once see him fight, so hopefully he will get some play in upcoming events. Someone had said something about seeing more "Lee" in action; and it is my opinion that he isn't worth seeing in action because he has never once beat an opponent or even come close; and unless he has learned some new tricks then he's a bum, but I hope I'm wrong, and maybe he will also get some play in the upcoming events.

[Illjwamh]

Did you by chance skip over the fights with Deidara and Kakuzu?

[PassiveObserver]

Did you by chance skip over the fights with Deidara and Kakuzu?

He seems to have also skipped by the fights between Lee and Gaara and Kimimaru. Maybe he didn't win, but those guys were badass and he gave them both a run for their money. Lee is a splendid ninja in my book.

[triggerman]

He seems to have also skipped by the fights between Lee and Gaara and Kimimaru. Maybe he didn't win, but those guys were badass and he gave them both a run for their money. Lee is a splendid ninja in my book.

Nope I'm sorry gentleman or madams, don't know either of your sexes, but I did not skip or forget any fights. My whole point is what ever happened to a ninja, finishing a mission/ opponent and killing them. Naruto and Kakashi chased Deidara around for like, ever! and all they manage to get out of it was a stupid ass, "oh we were that close," Granted he lost an arm but Kakashi was so tired after wards like what are the chances he can preform that jutsu in a battle that was not under those circumstances, like Deidara was not even trying. Plus Kakashi landed one blow to the Kakuzu, that killed one of his lives, and if naruto did not come in and save the day by utterly destroying dudes last 2 or 3 lives, I can't remember, all in one crushing blow., it did not look good for them at the time. I'm not saying they may not have won, but I am saying Kakashi did not defeat him on his own.

Now mean while Sasuke, whom, we are to assume right now is still not on Kakashi's level defeated him, Deidara that is, and went on to at least challenge Itachi. (but we can all assume also that Itachi was not trying to kill Sasuke)

As far as Lee goes; he had to use a gimmick to even push Kimimaro to his limits and we know that if Kimimaro almost beat Gaara, after time skip, and mind you, Gaara during the chuunin exams took the best Lee had to offer and basically pissed on it, if Gaara had not shown up when he did Lee would have been dead. Come on now guys you cannont argue against that. Especially since Lee's fun juice had run out. He would have gotten smashed.

And on top of that! Lee fought Gaara, and almost killed himself, with 5 gates unlocked, mind you. and STILL! got smashed, he even had to have his sensei come in and save his life. Like Gaara didn't even break a sweat, seriously. The Gaara that fought Sasuke and Naruto, that was actually tried to fight back, well that Gaara was not even seen by Lee, he was some where nursing a f'ed up leg and arm. Oh by the way, if Lee would have found someway to see Gaara's released state how long you think he would have lasted after already using the 5 gates and not being able to even barley stand?

You guys are just unrealistic, given we are talking about a fictional universe, but Lee has never really done anything significant in the series. and Kakashi has still yet to kill a S class ninja, and prove he is worth his salt. I think he should fight Zetsu. And kill him! Then I will be satisfied.

[PassiveObserver]

Keep in mind triggerman, lee doesn't have some sort of magic monster in his belly like gaara or naruto. He doesn't have a fancy blood line trait to make life easy for him. He's just a normal guy determined to prove himself. If you keep that in mind Lee has done a damn fine job as a ninja.

More importantly it's just occurred to me that I'm arguing about Naruto on the Internet. I think I should be ashamed.

[Illjwamh]

You're on an Anime-based message board. Such things are only to be expected.

[triggerman]

You're on an Anime-based message board. Such things are only to be expected.

Very true, that is what goes on in these kinds of threads.
Lee is not a "regular" guy as you put it. He is a freaking ninja, nothing about him is "regular," and oh yeah, I doubt his ability to be able to open chakra gates is the o'run-of-the-mill thing. Hey as I see it natural given gift like sharingan or byakugan are just like god given talents and athleticism in our own real universe so I won't treat it like some super thing, it is just a part of life some are gifted some are not. The beast however are something completely different but still naruto or gaara did not ask for those "curses" they where thrown upon them.
No excuses for Lee either way I see it, he needs to step it up. He chose to be a ninga knowing he had no natrual gifts, that is like a person trying out for a football team, knowing they are slower, weaker, and not as athletic as the other players, they know they are at a big disadvantage and if they get beat bad they should have expected it all along, or work just that much harder to make the grade. Plus the way I see it is Lee's gates would be equal to steroid s, so he should be able to get that extra edge but has failed anyways. Boo f'ing hoo.

[Barrelhaven]

Very true, that is what goes on in these kinds of threads.

I'm guessing he meant the "feeling ashamed" part.

[triggerman]

No, I do not feel ashamed at all; why should I? We all comment on this particular massage baord becuase we watch/ read naruto and enjoy it, maybe less lately the usually, but non the less we all can say we like naruto. So I feel that arguing about anything that I like or am passionate about is perfactly okay. I just feel that Lee is a bum, that is my opinion as of right now, and that Kakashi needs to prove himself, granted he is no bum, but I just have not seen his "greatness." Those are my oppinions and I would argue them with anyone, to me arguments are fines, sort of like a debate, fight and quarreling, however is not.

[Barrelhaven]

It was a joke. =\

[triggerman]

It was a joke. =\

if u can imagine a gigantic luffy smile. sorry about that. hahahahaha :-)

[Akimichi Choji]

if u can imagine a gigantic luffy smile. sorry about that. hahahahaha :-)

Man, that last gust blew my door open. Breeze just keeps coming.

...

So I am actually considering getting a toad sage tattoo end of summer. I'm thinking like, Gamabunta, especially with the kimono and the pipe. But I really want it to have some sick facial hair or something.

Thoughts?

[Hideki]

You guys are forgetting the par that kakashi said it requires a genius to unlock the 8 gates, rock lee aint normal, and his fights have been some of the best in all of naruto. Furthermore, if even itachi was wary of Gai, i'm sure rock lee can give sasuke some trouble. Triggerman, I suggest you find a new anime/manga if you think rock lee is past his time.

[Hideki]

What i'm saying is, Lee in perhaps his 8 unlocked states, if he avoids looking at sharingan, or the ring, could quite possibly very easily take sasuke. Also there were numerous number of ninja's that he could've taken, it just so happened that he went up againsts guys that were built against him, like gaara , and bone dude

[Illjwamh]

Next chapter is out. We appear to have seen the end of emo-Naruto. Woo!

[Barrelhaven]

Shikamaru returns, and we suddenly happen to get a decent chapter again. Coincidence?

[Illjwamh]

Hehe. That codebreaker chick has a crush on him. Shikamaru oozes manly awesomeness.

[triggerman]

What i'm saying is, Lee in perhaps his 8 unlocked states, if he avoids looking at sharingan, or the ring, could quite possibly very easily take sasuke. Also there were numerous number of ninja's that he could've taken, it just so happened that he went up againsts guys that were built against him, like gaara , and bone dude

Ididn't think Lee was able to go all 8 gates, I thought it was only Gai and possible Kakashi, going off that one situation when he used a gate to help himself climb up that rock cliff to train with sasuke. If that is so then that is his ultimate trump becuase after that you die, if I am correct? Well then maybe he deos have something that could interest me. But like I said they, Gai and Kakashi, said after you unlock all 8 gates you die, so if that is the case I hope that is the last fight he ever fights and it is worth it, for our sakes.

Didn't read the new chapter yet so no comments on that.

[PassiveObserver]

Ah Shikamaru, I would like very much for him to become hokage instead of Naruto. Kid's just made of awesome. And is that a pain corpse they have? When did Jiraiya snatch that up?

[triggerman]

Ah Shikamaru, I would like very much for him to become hokage instead of Naruto. Kid's just made of awesome. And is that a pain corpse they have? When did Jiraiya snatch that up?

I very much agree. In my opinion, which some would have to say is not a good one, lol, Shikamaru would be the best candidate he has the intelligence to run the whole Leaf village, and he is a great stratagist and his skills are a perfect compliment to that.He is a good fighter too; no not the strogest or the fastes, or the most talented, but he is a great ninja, almost the ideal ninja.

[Akimichi Choji]

Ok hold on, I just now realize I seem to be getting my chapters a week late or something. I just got the chapter of the codebreakers and naruto with the ie cream, and that seems to have been last week for your guys. Or am I just missing something from the chapter? If not, let me know what site is better then mine...

[PassiveObserver]

Ok hold on, I just now realize I seem to be getting my chapters a week late or something. I just got the chapter of the codebreakers and naruto with the ie cream, and that seems to have been last week for your guys. Or am I just missing something from the chapter? If not, let me know what site is better then mine...

It would appear you are a week late. I use onemanga.com, they usually have a new chapter up every friday.

[triggerman]

im a narutofan.com user myself.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Don't use Narutofan. The site owner steals fan scans and subs and then profits from their work.. often removing group watermarks. I use StopTazmo and most groups post to MangaHelpers

gah, I used my 3001st post!

[Barrelhaven]

Just curious, but how does he profit from their work? The registration was free, and it's not like I donate to him or anything.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Well, it's off topic, but he makes profit out of other people's hard work. In order to download everything (cause he also has tons of stuff outside of Naruto) you need to be a Plus! members which requires paying. In other words, he makes money at the expense of other people. if I recall, he also makes money using Plus! by adding in /subbed/ episodes of anime, ne? But not even anime, manga too.

[Illjwamh]

Yeah, you can get BT stuff from him for free, but he charges for direct downloads and stuff. And nothing he makes off of that goes to any of the fansub or fanscan groups he takes stuff from. He says it's for "server costs," but he makes a lot more than what's needed for that. He's a crook, plain and simple.

[Barrelhaven]

Why on earth would people pay for membership? If they're savvy enough find that ddl site, surely they know of other free ones as well. Besides, torrents and IRC channels are much better anyway. Why would they pay for this of all things? It seems ridiculous enough that the site owner is charging, and even more ridiculous people are actually paying.

[Shadowmage]

Why on earth would people pay for membership? If they're savvy enough find that ddl site, surely they know of other free ones as well. Besides, torrents and IRC channels are much better anyway. Why would they pay for this of all things? It seems ridiculous enough that the site owner is charging, and even more ridiculous people are actually paying.

Simple, young teenagers with their parents' credit cards.

...

And people who don't know torrents exist.

[Barrelhaven]

Simple, young teenagers with their parents' credit cards.

...

And people who don't know torrents exist.

Even still, they should at least know other free ddl sites exist. Besides, I'm in disbelief that all those many people who are paying for membership are unaware of torrents in this day and age. I guess there's really no other way to explain it though.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

He also makes money through advertising. On another side note, Something Awful hate Embaum's World because of the Ad-Money he makes from their work.

This is why I recommend StopTazmo and MangaHelpers both of which groups contribute to and are credit properly.

Back on topic, I'm really liking this Shikamaru manga again now that they've finished with those side characters Naruto, and Sasuke. Anybody else notice how the code-cracker girl looks oddly like Ino?

[Natsuke Takeda]

Yeah, the similarities were very much there. To be honest, it /better/ be Ino >> cause I have a feeling that glasses lady's gonna get more manga time that both ino and chouji combined.

The crush thing kinda makes it a no though lol

EDIT: Also, the only reason why people even pay for his Plus! membership is because he carries fast servers for uber fast downloading, and allows those things that make downloading faster. But then again, you /can/ get the same speed if you know how to port forward and stuff for torrents lol

[Illjwamh]

Holy crap!

I just read 407, and things are starting to get really exciting again. Isn't it amazing how that happened almost immediately after the story stopped focusing on Sasuke?

[Shadowmage]

407

Kakashi's and Shikamaru's expressions were priceless.

[Illjwamh]

Haha. Kakashi didn't want to have to read his book out loud. ^_^

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Nicely done. The fact those numbers were relating to the books was a bit predictable but the Naruto-specific parts like "Ta" added a nice spin to it. The contents of the book were funny and the message left behind looks to be the vital clue to beating Pain (who just so happens to be lined up to take on Naruto next). It does give me some Asuma-Shika deja vu but it's still much better than the recent chapters. Sasuke is also lined up to take on the 8-tails *yawn*.

I really do hope there's more to Jaraiya's books than just that one message. Seeing as he was able to make such a code at short notice he must have had all his works memorised so. I'm hoping that a collection of all the knowledge he acquired in his lifetime is somehow encoded in there
...if only to force Naruto to read it all :)

[PassiveObserver]

I was hoping for a better clue, but it looks like things are moving along nicely so I can't complain.

[M.Baka]

u can read translated chapters of naruto shippudden on onemanga.com

[Illjwamh]

Yes, indeed. I think that may have been mentioned already, but it is a good site. That's where I go for everything I can't buy yet.

[Akimichi Choji]

Very nice chapter indeed.

I like the Choji reference, for one. But the code is tricky. I am just assuming that if that is the actual code, it means that the person who essentially is "Pain" isn't one of the bodies, but perhaps another entity or just a person somewhere else. I am probably wrong in my interpretation, but we don't have much to go on.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Very nice chapter indeed.

I like the Choji reference, for one. But the code is tricky. I am just assuming that if that is the actual code, it means that the person who essentially is "Pain" isn't one of the bodies, but perhaps another entity or just a person somewhere else. I am probably wrong in my interpretation, but we don't have much to go on.
I'm sure if I recall this correctly but I think that the one "Pain" that looked like Jaraiya's old student was the only one that didn't appear before him thus he could be the the one real one.

[PassiveObserver]

It would appear from this last chapter that Naruto is going to be getting some training. Now I might be getting my hopes up here, but things look pretty promising for the next few chapters. I am however going to call Shenanigans on the sharingon yet again. I'm not quite sure what ability Sasuke has acquired but I know it's going to be something ridiculous.

[Illjwamh]

Oh boy, more Sasuke.


What's up with this new Jinchuuriki being from the Cloud? Didn't we already have one from there? And wasn't she supposed to be the second strongest from her village (logically next to the Raikage)? I don't want to jump to conclusions, but it looks kind of like Kishimoto didn't plan this one out as well as he could have.

[Barrelhaven]

You know, I was just thinking how badly we needed yet another training arc to break up the monotony of plot progression.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

I know that Sasuke is meant to be busy with the Eight-Tails (who looks much better designed than some of the other ones) but it's a little hard to swallow that Pain, who has been instructed to make a move on Naruto ASAP, would allow enough time for Naruto to close the gigantic gulf between himself and Jiraiya. The only possible solutions would be that he either drags Yamato along so he can do his super multi-tasking training special from last time or, sadly more likely, he'll be bestowed some new powerup that makes the Sharigan look balanced. There's also that big fat scroll left to Naruto too.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind One Thousand Naruto's crushing 10 years worth of training into a week. The one thing I would demand, however, is that his excessive forbidden-art Kage-Bunshin abuse gives him early onset altseimers by the time he reaches middle age.

[Illjwamh]

You want the story to keep going until he reaches middle age?

[General Suburbia]

Oh boy.

Sasuke's eye is just ridiculous. This whole thing is turning into a big heaping pile of shit. Bull shit.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

You want the story to keep going until he reaches middle age?
Well another time-skip is bound to be due soon ;)

As for Sasuke's new eye. I presume he just disco-balls people into submission now.

[triggerman]

Yeah Sasuke's eye is just retarded. This new guy look like he might be tough, and he uses 8 swords? Could be a good fight, I just hope he is not a push over. I think the code is saying that the One that is the real Pain, or the one body that controls all the other is not one of the pains that Jiraiya fought. Or it could be something totally different. I do however think that there is more to it, like maybe the location of this guy, how to over come the "Rinningan", and more information about Akatsuki, since Jiraiya did so much investigation on them.
It is like his, Jiraiya's, life was dedicated to making Naruto out to be this "Great" ninja like his father the fourth, and the character Naruto in Jiraiya's novel whom he is named after. So think there is going to be alot for Naruto to learn and definitley expect him to return from this traing with skill, speed, and power to rival that of some kind of ninja god. lol

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Oh god, I just realised, HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER :(

[Illjwamh]

I think I've read that fanfiction.

[Akimichi Choji]

It was an ok chapter I guess. Some info about the new Sage powers for Naruto. While the end of the chapter kind of just left us at the same place the end of the last chapter did...

[Natsuke Takeda]

...so... Naruto's going /beyond/ shinobi powers.

..I'm sorry... but...

....that's just f**king retarded.

[Shadowmage]

...so... Naruto's going /beyond/ shinobi powers.

..I'm sorry... but...

....that's just f**king retarded.

Come on, it's shounen action; it makes complete sense.

[Natsuke Takeda]

I know.. >> that's why it's so damn retarded.

I pine for breaking the mold. >> I can at least take comfort in One Piece of D.Gray Man, the latter beginning to be more interesting lately.

But come on... Really? Be one with Nature? He's gotta die to get it, too? REALLY?! >>

DAMNIT! This manga doesn't take a lot to PISS MEH OFF >>;

*gives up and walks away*

[Barrelhaven]

Wow, I guess he really is going to learning the Spirit Bomb...

[DarkKanti]

Wow, I guess he really is going to learning the Spirit Bomb...

I think you mean Spirit Rasengan. Or maybe Rasengan bomb? One or the other...

[PassiveObserver]

Sweet, Naruto is going to be a shinobi and a Quincy.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

He's more like a Bender only Aang is much better.

[Akimichi Choji]

Basically another chapter that just haves us waiting for the next chapter. The chapter wasn't bad, but they need to stop delaying the gratification already!

[Natsuke Takeda]

I'm kind of wishing that this 8-tails guy kicks Sasuke's ass. Seriously, we say NOTHING from Team Hawk other than they got owned royally.

Here's a perfect time to NOT ruin the series by having Sasuke beat the guy hands down. I kinda like the 8-tails guy. He's got a load of personality and charisma that would be flushed down the toilet if Sasuke just does his normal Godmode routine.

This society of frogs is still f*ckin retarded. One with nature? Then wtf are all these elemental jutsu for? AND we've forgotten that Naruto has had a special ability WITHOUT Kyubi and that was his substantial chakra capacity. Why not build on that? Why the hell does he have to stray away from his strength and use yet again ANOTHER medium. First it was Kyubi now it's nature himself.

Now I realize why I don't like Naruto as much anymore. The main character can't seem to grasp his OWN strengths at all, and after 300+ chapters he's still being led this and that way. 3 years of training with a sage wasn't enough? Really? Now he's got frogs training him. If Akatsuki was THAT freakin strong, you should have let him do the sage stuff in the first place. We don't even know what "don't use 'that'" from way back was.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Team hawk are yawn again but how else is Sakuse gonna show off his spirograph corneas?

I'm banking on Naurto's in-built chakra capacity being how he manages to pull in power from thin air without consequences. As retarded as this already is, a nine-tail frog would be on a whole new level Haha

[Barrelhaven]

I'm coming to the realization that there's not a single thing I look forward to in the manga anymore, yet I still keep reading it each week. I guess this is the power of habit.

Itachi is ruined, Shikamaru continues to get fed scraps, Jiraiya kicked the bucket, Kakashi is no longer relevant, Rock Lee hasn't thrown a single punch or kick in ages...all that remains are emo-Sasuke and his gang of running cliches, and Naruto's level-up regimen. The thing that pisses me off the most is that things could've been so different and so much better if Sasuke got his eyes gouged by Itachi. A blind ninja who'd have to rely on his wits and tactics to fight would've been the shit...but what do we get instead? Yet another powerup.

Yeah, it's old news, I know...but every time I see his mug pop up again, I can't help but think of that.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

You wanna know what's sad? I've been looking at the recent Fairy Tail chapters and they've been blowing this out of the water lol

I think it might have something to do with the current arc having something good, Erza being brilliant and... oh yeah - the main shonen protagonist is interesting to see in action. I can't remember the last time I actually saw Uzumaki Naruto DO something.

[edit] Oh gawd, please don't let his solution be the same old clone trick.

[Illjwamh]

I'm kind of wishing that this 8-tails guy kicks Sasuke's ass. Seriously, we say NOTHING from Team Hawk other than they got owned royally.

Here's a perfect time to NOT ruin the series by having Sasuke beat the guy hands down. I kinda like the 8-tails guy. He's got a load of personality and charisma that would be flushed down the toilet if Sasuke just does his normal Godmode routine.

This society of frogs is still f*ckin retarded. One with nature? Then wtf are all these elemental jutsu for? AND we've forgotten that Naruto has had a special ability WITHOUT Kyubi and that was his substantial chakra capacity. Why not build on that? Why the hell does he have to stray away from his strength and use yet again ANOTHER medium. First it was Kyubi now it's nature himself.

Now I realize why I don't like Naruto as much anymore. The main character can't seem to grasp his OWN strengths at all, and after 300+ chapters he's still being led this and that way. 3 years of training with a sage wasn't enough? Really? Now he's got frogs training him. If Akatsuki was THAT freakin strong, you should have let him do the sage stuff in the first place. We don't even know what "don't use 'that'" from way back was.

Quoted for absolute truth.


Thank god I have One Piece and to a lesser extent Bleach to read every week, because Naruto is just turning out to be disappointment after disappointment. Every time I think it might be getting cool again, Kishimoto proves me wrong. I can't stop reading it though after investing so much time in it. Here's hoping it has at least some redeeming qualities before it's over.

*crosses fingers*

[Shadowmage]

I would pay good money to see Naruto turn into a frog.

[Akimichi Choji]

I would pay good money to see Naruto turn into a frog.

How much good money?

Cause I know this wizard, he's pretty powerful. And well, lets just say I can make it happen. Normally I wouldn't offer services, but it actually may make Naruto more interesting. Forget a blind ninja trying to survive, think of a ninja frog being the protaganist!

[PassiveObserver]

I know the chances of Sasuke being dead after that last attack are pretty much nil, but how great would it be if he just up and died right there.

[Illjwamh]

It would be unbelievably awesome.


But you know it's just going to turn out to be genjutsu again or some stupid crap like that.

[Shadowmage]

Though I have no great love of plot hacked friend, I realize that the manga would go from the shitters to the depths of hell if they killed off Sasuke. Seriously? Where would the manga go from then on and what was the point of building hundreds of chapters of groundwork?

[Natsuke Takeda]

Well.. seems no matter what, that 8-tails guy is doomed.

but seriously? Kill him or capture him? I'm already a big fan of him; he's got such a good personality that we haven't seen on Naruto for a LONG time. Another big problem with Naruto is that it's humor side had gotten horribly thin and.. heck.. unfunny. We already know that this series just throws away characters, but man, what a waste to destroy this new guy. For one thing, he's someone BESIDES Gaara and the his Sand siblings that can take an important role without being a Konoha shinobi. I'd love to see this guy pair with someone like Kakashi or heck, even Guy! That would be awesome and a new breath of fresh air!

Also, after once again getting angry at Naruto's sage/frog training, I realized that there's a big chance his father never even /did/ such a thing. I mean, wow. They waited OH SO long for Naruto's parents to be revealed, and he doesn't even show a fraction of inheritance from either parental figure other than Rasengan... which is suddenly so damn weak.

[General Suburbia]

Sasuke hasn't killed anyone in cold blood yet. That new dude won't die.

[Barrelhaven]

My memory of Akatsuki's plans are a bit hazy at this point, but don't they need the "tailed" ninjas alive? Won't killing them essentially mean killing the demon they're hosting? That'd sorta put a wrench in their schemes.

I'm not even gonna bother speculating about Sasuke's outcome here, since we all know what the answer is.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Also, after once again getting angry at Naruto's sage/frog training, I realized that there's a big chance his father never even /did/ such a thing. I mean, wow. They waited OH SO long for Naruto's parents to be revealed, and he doesn't even show a fraction of inheritance from either parental figure other than Rasengan... which is suddenly so damn weak.

A new super technique has been introduced, the previous one is now absolutely obsolete, most of Tenshinhan's techniques suffered that fate too.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

He won't be giving us anything about that until he's finished recycling Shika's story arc for Naruto

[Natsuke Takeda]

412

So... Sasuke can uber heal by biting Karin >> lmao wow he's got godmod t00ls

[Illjwamh]

Well, technically that's Karin's godmode tool. Haha.

She looks orgasmic as it's happening.

[PassiveObserver]

At least Sasuke actually got owned and it wasn't some sort of illusion. I really hope the 8 tails puts that whole group out of their misery.

[Barrelhaven]

At least Sasuke actually got owned and it wasn't some sort of illusion. I really hope the 8 tails puts that whole group out of their misery.

You're just setting yourself up for greater disappointment, once Sasuke and lackeys inevitably bring down the 8-Tails. =(

[Akimichi Choji]

You're just setting yourself up for greater disappointment, once Sasuke and lackeys inevitably bring down the 8-Tails. =(

See, I don't really know. Why would they make the 8 tails shinobi so, for lack of a better word, awesome if they are just going to let him go uber then die? He seems like a character who could carry his own in the series. But then I am reminded just how true barrel's statement is, in that since it would be cool and good for the series, it will likely end in my dissapointment.

[Barrelhaven]

See, I don't really know. Why would they make the 8 tails shinobi so, for lack of a better word, awesome if they are just going to let him go uber then die?

I guess for the same reason Zabuza, Haku, Itachi, and those kick ass Akatsuki members (the immortal guy, and the one who had numerous hearts) all bit the dust.

But then I am reminded just how true barrel's statement is, in that since it would be cool and good for the series, it will likely end in my dissapointment.

I never said it'd be "cool and good for the series". In fact, I'm completely on-board with the "let's kill off that emo tool and his gang of flunkeys" bandwagon. I'd love to see that happen. Like right now.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Unfortunately, with the rapping gimmick and all, there's not enough scope for the character live beyond being a foe for the bird-team. Most of this fight is going to be padding while naruto does his lame training. It'll all be over when the disco-eyes come out.

[Shadowmage]

I do realize that the Sharingan causes blindness, but it better come out next chapter. Sasuke should know he doesn't stand much of a chance without it.

[Akimichi Choji]

I never said it'd be "cool and good for the series". In fact, I'm completely on-board with the "let's kill off that emo tool and his gang of flunkeys" bandwagon. I'd love to see that happen. Like right now.

I meant that the 8-tails ninja surviving and in turn killing Sasuke and his entourage would be good for the series, not vice versa. I am also on the "emo-tool-gang-die" bandwagon.

**EDIT**
We should make a facebook group concerning this "bandwagon.":idealight

[Illjwamh]

I'd join.



I don't even like Facebook.

[Akimichi Choji]

I'd join.



I don't even like Facebook.

A testament to your support of the cause.

[genki sakura]

As long as there's a quick reunion with Sakura before Sasuke kicks the bucket, I'm in. Everyone else in the gang can kick the bucket. The two guys could go because they really don't do much for the story other than silly (probably pointless) comedic relief. And if Karin was more useful and less of a fangirl, I'd say I wouldn't want to see her go.

XD

(What...? Yes, I'm very hopeless.)


Oh and about the blindness...I just remembered a sasusaku fanfic I read a while ago way before Itachi mentioned the blindness factor...and that's what happens XD

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

I'm confused. I though that now Sas killed Ita he'd be free of the blindness like Maddy is. He even has disco-eyes now!

[genki sakura]

True..and Kishimoto hasn't really explained the meaning of the disco eyes (I like that term XD)...so it might be some more of "I'm Sasuke and I'm so special and because of my specialness I have special disco ball eyes that never let me go blind because I'm Sasuke and I'm so special and because of my specialness...(I think you get the point)"...

[Illjwamh]

Everyone's Mangekyou looks different. That's just how his is.

[genki sakura]

Really? I didn't know everyone's looked different...they've all looked the same to me.

[Illjwamh]

Really? Look at Kakashi's and Itachi's again.

[Akimichi Choji]

They are all different, to agree with Ill there. Sasuke's is the atom/disco ball, Madara's kind of looks like a bubbly guitar pick, Kakashi's is like a ninja star with 3 points that curve, and Itachi's is probably the one that you thought they all looked like. Personally, I like Madara's the best. It's the most original, imo.

[Shadowmage]

There we go

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangekyo_Sharingan

[Natsuke Takeda]

Forget being like Dragon Ball Z. Goku and friends make beams that destroy worlds.

Sharingan users don't even have to move >>

"You thought you destroyed the world, but it was all a genjutsu, triggered by when I did ANY kind of movement. My cells moved a micrometer and you were already caught in it! muahah!"

[genki sakura]

Ah...I guess I was just completely oblivious (which isn't something that surprises me). Thanks guys.




And because I'm a silly child with nothing better to do:
Karin: "Yay! Konoha's been destroyed! Me and Sasuke can run off together into the sunset!"
Sakura: "You idiot! You've been caught in your own leader's genjutsu!"

[Natsuke Takeda]

This thread has become a "What the f*ck can Sasuke do wrong?!" thread lol

[genki sakura]

I was going for "I'm making fun of Karin" but we can go with the idea that Sasuke did something wrong XD

Karin could be a great character and I'd probably like her too...if she wouldn't swoon over Sasuke.

[Barrelhaven]

Karin could be a great character and I'd probably like her too...if she wouldn't swoon over Sasuke.

But doesn't that pretty much make up her entire personality? I mean, what's left if you take away that fangurl component? It'd be like saying cowturds wouldn't taste so crappy if you get rid of the 'cow' and the 'turd'.

[genki sakura]

Well she seems to have some semblance of a chakra ability. And she can supposedly "heal" you if you bite into her >.><.< Perhaps some actual "usefulness" will come out in a battle.

She could've been so much better. She could have showed up, gone "Eff you Sasuke, I'll help, but don't expect anything else from me!" and the trio (at that time) could have gone on their merry way. But no. From the getgo it had to be "ZOMG SASUKE?!".

At least with Sakura (at this point), strip away the Sasuke fangirl--whatever's left...because I think right now it's mostly "I want to get Sasuke back...or at the very least see him. I don't really give two shits about restoring his clan [which I don't think was in her mind when she was twelve]."--and you get a competent human being.

[Shadowmage]

This is my favorite chapter in a long time.

link for ownage (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Shadowmage_Shin/?action=view&current=Sasuke.jpg)

[Barrelhaven]

I'm guessing we'll at least see some flashbacks or learn something about 8-tails' past before he kicks the bucket, since he mentioned something about his "brother".

Otherwise, another 'meh' chapter for me. We all know Sasuke will be fine and dandy in no time at all, so it's essentially another "stall" chapter where nothing really progresses. Also I sorta forgot the deal behind the dude healing Sasuke. I remember he's one of Orochi's "cursed seal" projects, but what are his abilities exactly?

[genki sakura]

IT'S THE MONSTER THAT "KILLED" KAIEN?!?!

How many freaking times has Karin been bitten...looks pretty sketch.

Watch, it'll turn out she's really a he.

[Illjwamh]

HA! Even with his new uber-sharingan Sasuke got his ass handed to him. I love this.

Also, was I the only one who saw the foreshadowed solution to Naruto's weakness for genjutsu?

[triggerman]

yeah I picked up on that too. but like this guys seems to like his beast, and have a connection, or some what of a connection, naruto's connection is like non-exsistent, and he only uses kyuubi be accedent when he cant control his emotions. he doesn't even wanna use his nine tails.

but i don't see how this guys is gonna loose to sasuke, like he can completely turn into the fully transformed version of his tail beast! damn! and with complete control. like and its the eight tails at that, that is one away from the nine tails so it has to be pretty damn strong! and he can cancel the sharingan, and the sasuke's thunder/ lightening jutsu. wow. he might have to use those new itachi powers or something crazy, cuz he don't look beatable right now.

[Zelyhon]

Where's Wanderer when you need him? XD

And I am also in complete agreement with Illjwamh that seeing Sasuke get beaten down despite his ability to pull plot powers out of his ass is pretty nice.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

lol Oxtapus

[Akimichi Choji]

lol Oxtapus

I believe it now has a name. I must say, seeing Sasuke without a chest certainly gave the chapter a well needed umph. I look forward to the rest of the fight.

[PassiveObserver]

Dear God I hope Sasuke's entire team gets Utterly destroyed by the Oxtapus.

[Shadowmage]

Prepare for the Super Saiyan hacks.

[Akimichi Choji]

"Who Will Survive?!"

I answer a question with another question. Is neither an option?

[Illjwamh]

Amaterasu appears. Interesting. I would have thought Sasuke's mangekyou would give him his own unique powers, like Kakashi's. Or maybe Itachi was even more brilliant than we thought and managed to pass on the ability permanently. Or maybe because they're siblings, their abilities are similar. Who knows?


I'm thinking this will be to cover their escape, rather than win the fight (which seems like a lost cause now).



My biggest observation: The Hidden Cloud is the nicest place to live for Jinchuuriki we've ever seen.

[Natsuke Takeda]

...Meanwhile... Naruto can lift boulders.

EDIT: GIANT Boulders.

[Barrelhaven]

So why did that dude turn into a kid?

[Natsuke Takeda]

Cause he's using a new chakra... LIFE Chakra! [/lie] It's kind of like YuYu Hak. where there's that spirit force and life force!

[genki sakura]

BULL ON RAMPAGE!


Sorry...I just really liked that title...that's how the translator translated it...>.><.<

Another interesting thing is that Sasuke remembered his old Team 7.

[Barrelhaven]

BULL ON RAMPAGE!


Sorry...I just really liked that title...that's how the translator translated it...>.><.<
It's okay. I probably lol'd at this more than I should have...

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9291/bullybullse0.jpg

[PassiveObserver]

I'm hoping the oxtapus has a crafty way of not getting burned. Sasuke's sudden thoughts of team seven are a nice change of pace, seeing as he shouldn't have any reason to hate them in the first place.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

lol with that much 'emotion', Itachi-connection and black tears the dramatic impact alone could fell an Oxtapus.

[Illjwamh]

415


This chapter was made of fail and AIDS. Anyone who's read it knows why.

[genki sakura]

Karin sucks. Seriously. Or is she going to suddenly break out with a kunai and chop off her hair? Nah, can't have that happen again. It was too cool the first time. >.><.<

The only possible redeeming part of this chapter is the ending. Otherwise it's meh. Especially with the whole "ZOMG IT'S THE UCHIHA CLAN SYMBOL! ZOMG THEY KICKED SOME BUTT! ZOMG IT'S TIME TO TELL SOMEONE!"

Unless of course this will end up involving Konoha...


...which it probably will...

...Team 7 Reunion take 1908239

[Barrelhaven]

Things were going pretty well, until Sasuke broke out his hacks again and reverted the supposedly irreversible amatseru. What's the point in making it irreversible in the first place, if you're just gonna do it anyway?

[Shadowmage]

Things were going pretty well, until Sasuke broke out his hacks again and reverted the supposedly irreversible amatseru. What's the point in making it irreversible in the first place, if you're just gonna do it anyway?

Simple, making the impossible possible is cool... except when your audience no longer cares.

[Corpse]

naruto is gonna break out the spirit bomb or whatever the **** it was called any second now.

[General Suburbia]

I thought excessive strength was what made Sakura different from the others. Now, she's useless again.

[Barrelhaven]

...she was useful before?

[PassiveObserver]

...she was useful before?

Once she finds the cheat codes to the healing jutsus she'll.....nah....she has been/always will be useless.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Only her death can make her significant, I say with a rather unfortunate tone. But she's still the third of the 3, ne? She's not out shopping right now, right? lol

[Akimichi Choji]

Karin = teh sux

Killerbee = teh soon-to-be-avenged

Sasuke = teh hackz

Naruto = french cuisine

I think that pretty much sums the chapter up. It was ok, I really hope Karin is dead though.:tup:

[genki sakura]

Once she finds the cheat codes to the healing jutsus she'll.....nah....she has been/always will be useless.

At least she's a better character than Karin. We've seen Sakura's strength and ability before. I think Sakura's always been a useful character Chuunin Arc-onwards. The only thing, imo, that's keeping her back is Kishimoto. We never see what Sakura's like unless it has to do with Naruto and/or Sasuke. That's probably his intent, and probably what one should expect from a shonen manga, but still. I think that a great deal of the opinion is caused by her less than usual appearance after a certain point.

What's Karin good for? Chakra detection and the sketchiest healing method around. Meh.

It is sorta (sadly) true that Sakura's death might be a great deal of what makes her significant, I don't think that will be the only thing people will/should remember her by.

Or maybe I just like Sakura too much.

[PassiveObserver]

Well that chapter settles it. Either Sasuke is blatantly lying to madara, or his intelligence is about Forrest Gump level or lower.

[genki sakura]

Chapter 416:

Sasuke (right now)=meh

What? Sasuke's going to find a way to attack with a demon and then Naruto has to defeat it and put it into another baby? Or maybe Tsunade will find some freaky way to implant TWO into Naruto. Thus causing more drama.

If that very unlikely event happens, I will be laughing my ass off.

And how long is it going to take before we get to Sasuke going postal on Konoha?

Oh, and ten bucks on a Karin vs. Sakura battle.

Flashback= I liked it. A bit cheesy, but it was cute.

[Illjwamh]

I'm glad he didn't succumb to the temptation of drawing four or five chapters of Jiraiya's story (50 bucks says they drag it out for a month in the anime), but the little bit we got to see was pretty cool.

[Shadowmage]

No seriously, Sasuke is making less sense than Code Geass at this point. Either he's and idiot or he's so hardcore emo that he's going off to buy eyeliner to match his black clothing. Regardless...

CRAWWWWLING INNN MY SKIIINNNN!

[Akimichi Choji]

No seriously, Sasuke is making less sense than Code Geass at this point. Either he's and idiot or he's so hardcore emo that he's going off to buy eyeliner to match his black clothing. Regardless...

CRAWWWWLING INNN MY SKIIINNNN!

All I know, is that someone is getting a Hot Topic gift razor for Christmas so he can buy himself some pre-ripped Akatsuki robes.

[genki sakura]

Sasuke's a drinker. :XD:

I suppose that shouldn't be too much of a surprise, but I didn't think it would get revealed so soon...or maybe that's just me. Might turn out that what he was drinking wasn't what I thought it was, but it sure looked like it.

I like this chapter. Looks like a lot of things are going to go kablooey all at once...at least I hope that's what is going to happen.

[Barrelhaven]

Sasuke's a drinker. :XD:

I suppose that shouldn't be too much of a surprise, but I didn't think it would get revealed so soon...or maybe that's just me. Might turn out that what he was drinking wasn't what I thought it was, but it sure looked like it.

I like this chapter. Looks like a lot of things are going to go kablooey all at once...at least I hope that's what is going to happen.

I'm guessing Sasuke's vision went blurry from the Magenkyou after-effects...not because he was getting tanked, lol. But yeah, an alcoholic Sasuke would be > than an emo Sasuke.

Anyway, I think the chapter was actually pretty decent too, thanks to the interesting looking characters introduced at the end. They'll probably just end up as cannon fodder, but whatever.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Anything besides Team.. Bird... and Team... Frog O.o is better.

And I now realize... the Cloud sure has a lot of charismatic people~ They should have put some more emphasis on other villages besides leaf and sand.

[genki sakura]

I'm guessing Sasuke's vision went blurry from the Magenkyou after-effects...not because he was getting tanked, lol. But yeah, an alcoholic Sasuke would be > than an emo Sasuke.
Nah, I knew that it was from the Mangekyou. But definitely, alcoholic Sasuke> emo Sasuke. If he was (sporatically) shitfaced for the rest of the series, that would be amazing. I mean, considering the entertainment value of drunk Rock Lee, drunk Sasuke would be insanely entertaining x infinity.

[Barrelhaven]

Sage mode. =\

Nah, I knew that it was from the Mangekyou. But definitely, alcoholic Sasuke> emo Sasuke. If he was (sporatically) shitfaced for the rest of the series, that would be amazing. I mean, considering the entertainment value of drunk Rock Lee, drunk Sasuke would be insanely entertaining x infinity.

I dunno, Sasuke seems like he'd be the depressed kind of drunk...the type that'd go back home and smack around the wifey for a bit, then mope about his life's sorrows. I'd even rather watch Naruto train for SSJ2 for another few chapters than to endure that.

[genki sakura]

I dunno, Sasuke seems like he'd be the depressed kind of drunk...the type that'd go back home and smack around the wifey for a bit, then mope about his life's sorrows. I'd even rather watch Naruto train for SSJ2 for another few chapters than to endure that.

I mean, I wouldn't want to see if Sasuke becomes a drunk wifebeater, but he doesn't have a wife yet. XD So I want to see more drunk Sasuke. And besides, he wasn't trashed yet. He probably has some special high-tolerance ability.





And then it all goes to hell.



And he sings about coconuts.

[Itachi Uchiha]

so Naruto must learn frog fu now... Does that mean that Sasuke is going to have to take a evil eye techniques 401 correspondence course?

[Natsuke Takeda]

I don't know what's worse...

Sasuke's emoness of uninspiring epic proportions...

...or the emo AMVs that come with it.

[Illjwamh]

I take back all the negative stuff I said recently. 419 is totally awesome. If you've read it you know why.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[Barrelhaven]

Shit is finally going down. With Pain invading Konoha, I guess that's the end of Naruto's training session, thank god. I wonder if Killer Bee is just gonna take a vacation and disappear for a bit, or if he'll still be in the mix of things.

[genki sakura]

Awesome sauce!

[Zelyhon]

Y'know, this is what really ticks me off about Naruto. For the longest time, they'll have absolutely terrible chapters and such that cause me (and apparently many of you) to hold the series in absolute contempt to the point of giving up on it. Then, it turns around and leads into what seems to be an awesome set of circumstances, or a really interesting fight, like Hidan and Kakuzu's last fight. And all through reading that, it's tainted by the knowledge that either:

A) It'll never live up to the potential that the beginning sets up.
B) Even if it does live up to the original idea, it'll fall apart soon thereafter.

So, yeah. While I liked this chapter quite a bit, my hopes aren't very high. Call me a pessimist if you like, but I doubt any of you can say I'm wrong on this.

[General Suburbia]

Y'know, this is what really ticks me off about Naruto. For the longest time, they'll have absolutely terrible chapters and such that cause me (and apparently many of you) to hold the series in absolute contempt to the point of giving up on it. Then, it turns around and leads into what seems to be an awesome set of circumstances, or a really interesting fight, like Hidan and Kakuzu's last fight.
Nah. Doesn't matter what the manga does at this point, it'll end up being mediocre at best.

And even then, I'll still go on reading it.

[Barrelhaven]

Behold, the power of habit, folks.

[PassiveObserver]

It looks like the future holds more Killer Bee awesomeness (granted I'm not entirely sure how he pulled off that escape). As for Pain attacking Konoha I'm hoping that there's to be some sort of epic battle in the next few chapters.

[Barrelhaven]

It looks like the future holds more Killer Bee awesomeness (granted I'm not entirely sure how he pulled off that escape). As for Pain attacking Konoha I'm hoping that there's to be some sort of epic battle in the next few chapters.

I might be wrong (since I don't remember the fight between Killer Bee and Sasuke all that well)...but apparently when the 8-tails demon fell apart, KB lodged himself in one of the severed tentacles and lay hidden in the bottom of the lake, while transforming another piece of tentacle into his clone (the one that Akatsuki took).

[PassiveObserver]

I might be wrong (since I don't remember the fight between Killer Bee and Sasuke all that well)...but apparently when the 8-tails demon fell apart, KB lodged himself in one of the severed tentacles and lay hidden in the bottom of the lake, while transforming another piece of tentacle into his clone (the one that Akatsuki took).

Ah yes that would explain it, thanks for clearing that up. I do wonder though how Sasuke didn't notice, what with the magical hacks of that sharingon of his.

[Barrelhaven]

Hey, get yer stinkin' logic outta my Naruto. >:[

But really, I dunno...I think after Sasuke put out his own fire, his eyes were on the fritz and possibly bleeding. That might've mucked up his sharingan for a bit. Or maybe KB just possesses superior plot hacks or something...

[Illjwamh]

Easy answer: He's a ninja.


The Naruto equivalent of "A wizard did it."

[Akimichi Choji]

Easy answer: He's a ninja.


The Naruto equivalent of "A wizard did it."
Or...divine intervention?

:jesus:

Great chapter, Killerbee looks like he'll have a good storyline going. And Pain attacking Konoha will certainly open a few new doors.

[Akimichi Choji]

Not as good as last chapter, but pretty damn good. Kakashi vs. Pain should have an obvious outcome, but it has great potential. And now that all of the Chuunin know about the attack, we can some interesting fights. Plus, Naruto finally getting back to Konoha to use "Sage" mode is really getting my attention.

[Natsuke Takeda]

The fact that sage mode is the only way he can win battles from here on out makes me hate the manga more tbh.

It IS a super saiyan form. Anything less than sage mode is now not enough, same goes for Sasuke's eyes.

[Barrelhaven]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/jetsaholic1094/random%20images/spiritbomb.jpg

Further proof that King Kai has just taught Naruto the goddamn Spirit Bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOaqYFwgJYc).

[Natsuke Takeda]

My point exactly...

Kakashi death flag anyone?

[Barrelhaven]

It IS a super saiyan form. Anything less than sage mode is now not enough, same goes for Sasuke's eyes.
I see it sorta like this:

Naruto
- Kaiohken = Sage Mode
- Kamehameha = Rasengan
- SSJ = Tapping into Kyuubi's power
- Spirit Bomb = New move he learned to do while in Sage Mode

Sasuke
- Kaiohken = Sharingan
- Kamehameha = Chidori
- SSJ = Tapping into Orochi's cursed seal power
- Spirit Bomb = ???

[PassiveObserver]

The battle ahead looks like it might get entertaining. I'm hopeful that the hacks won't be to ridiculous.

[Shadowmage]

This is probably the most interesting endings I've read from this manga in a long, long time.

[PassiveObserver]

Wow, Danzo is a real sob. Looks like Konoha is gonna burn.

[Natsuke Takeda]

The less we see Naruto and Sasuke, the better it is, I say *nods*

Suggestion: Let this new invasion of Konoha NOT be decided by Naruto's presence. Sakura NOT be stuck in the hospital and the original Genin teams once again get their time to shine.

They have plenty of Pain to go around!

[Illjwamh]

Holy crap, I didn't see that coming. Wtf is Danzo's agenda, anyway?

At least Pein's piercings are finally explained. Sort of.

[Barrelhaven]

The less we see Naruto and Sasuke, the better it is, I say *nods*

Suggestion: Let this new invasion of Konoha NOT be decided by Naruto's presence. Sakura NOT be stuck in the hospital and the original Genin teams once again get their time to shine.

They have plenty of Pain to go around!

It's about time we got another dose of Shikamaru.

[Akimichi Choji]

I think Danzo's plan was to keep Naruto out of the way, so we could see some decent fights from Hinata, Kiba, Choji(yeah), Shikamaru and the like. Thats why the frog needed to die.

[Natsuke Takeda]

As much as I love Shikamaru and his fights... let's for once focus on another member. Shino? Kiba? A /female/ member for once? Seriously, Ino or Hinata will do, at least let one of the two have a fight on their own.

EDIT: HELL AT LEAST LET SAI FIGHT.

[PassiveObserver]

As much as I love Shikamaru and his fights... let's for once focus on another member. Shino? Kiba? A /female/ member for once? Seriously, Ino or Hinata will do, at least let one of the two have a fight on their own.

EDIT: HELL AT LEAST LET SAI FIGHT.

Forget that, I want to see Rock Lee break out the drunken fist again. That's the problem with anime these days, not nearly enough drunken fist.

[Illjwamh]

I think Danzo's plan was to keep Naruto out of the way, so we could see some decent fights from Hinata, Kiba, Choji(yeah), Shikamaru and the like. Thats why the frog needed to die.

So Danzo's a literary critic who takes an active role?

[genki sakura]

The less we see Naruto and Sasuke, the better it is, I say *nods*

Suggestion: Let this new invasion of Konoha NOT be decided by Naruto's presence. Sakura NOT be stuck in the hospital and the original Genin teams once again get their time to shine.

They have plenty of Pain to go around!
For realz.

Personally, if Sakura is stuck in the hospital and doesn't fight...I'm going to be angry. Out of the big four main characters she's been continuously thrown onto the backburner since the fight in Sunagakure. Maybe there'll be a fight in the hospital XD (I wouldn't mind that though XD)


Yeah, and the less we see of Sasuke and Naruto, the less tangents we can get on. The invasion of Konoha is more important than Sasuke and Naruto imo. I'm sure, they'll get in somehow, but I hope only after weeks of chaos.


And yes, Illjwamh, Danzo is a literary critic who takes an active role XD. That ending was great.

[triggerman]

that was maybe the best ending i have seen i a while too as a matter of fact. But wat is kakashi gonna do? lol he is up to his neck in pain and shit. lol. but this is wat i been waiting for. the chance for kakashi to hopefully pull out all the stops, and i mean all of them. I like that lil chidori wolf thing he flashed for a second, that lets me kno sasuke's not the only one inventing new chidori techniques.

[Natsuke Takeda]

I actually didn't like the fact that Chidori became so... versatile. It as already strong; why the hell does it suddenly have to have constant variations of it? Did the Naruto movie with the ice princess/actress where Kakashi freakin blasted /through/ those ice monsters not prove how strong it was?

This is one of the many problems with Naruto; the moves evolve /too/ much. Rasengan was already a good move, and so was Chidori. If they had kept the moves as it was, it would have been a splended throwback when Naruto and Sasuke clash, only this time Naruto getting the upper hand.

[Barrelhaven]

Goddamnit. Clone jutsu ruins yet another fight.

[Shadowmage]

I was fine with the clone chidoris. I mean, we've already seen water clones. This is just one made out of electricity (that discharges when touchd).

[Natsuke Takeda]

Newest Chapter:

Control of gravity....

*sighs* Well, sucks to be Kakashi. The dude's like that guy from Zatch Bell, that gravity dude lmao

[PassiveObserver]

Well I'm not one for spoiler tags so I'll just come out and say it, Surely Kakashi won't be destroyed by a single nail to the noggin'. How non-epic a death is that? I think he's going to pull some shenanigans.

[triggerman]

yeah hopefully that underground attack was a trick in a trick in a trick like maybe the only thing he really wanted to do was get him trapped inside his "sharingan"

[Illjwamh]

Who knows? Also, I'd like to point out that not every lightning-based jutsu is a variant of Chidori. Lightning is one of the five elements, and of course there are going to be many jutsu that utilize it.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

It doesn't matter much anyways since Naruto is going to be the one to defeat Pain with his latest training-arc technique. Kakashi is too popular to die so maybe he'll loose an eye and get Pain's as a free upgrade.

It's a bit sad that the cool tricks aren't able to win over hax-powers in this world. There's good reason why the Shikamaru arc was the favorite. It also sadly seems like Kakashi hasn't actually won a single fight since... Zabusa!!

*sigh* Seems some Jump is loosing it's steam over time. Just started watching an ep of Soul Eater and that was fun. Nice animation.

[Illjwamh]

Any bets on whether or not Kakashi actually dies?

[Natsuke Takeda]

If he does, I'll be the first to say it wasn't thrilling at all. Asuma's death was probably where they should have stopped since it had that deep lasting impact; and a crapload of foreshadowing... and he was the only one who died at that time >>; Kakashi would just be one of the waves who died.

Did Chouji's father just hit the dust just now?

[Barrelhaven]

Did Chouji's father just hit the dust just now?

Yeah, that was sorta 'meh' on the drama scale...it felt tacked on in an "Oh by the way"-manner. Same goes for Kakashi if this is really the end for him too, but then again, he hasn't been all that relevant lately anyway.

[Pedro The Hutt]

*sigh* Seems some Jump is loosing it's steam over time. Just started watching an ep of Soul Eater and that was fun. Nice animation.

You'd think they'd have learned after Dragonball not to force mangaka to prolong their manga more than they had originally intended. o: It only hurts the story.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Pain's already taken a big enough bodycount as it is!

As for prolonged manga, Naruto can't really end until he becomes Hokage or dies :P

[Natsuke Takeda]

Newest Chapter: Everything is everywhere and I'm not really liking it. They prolong Kakashi's death AGAIN... honestly...

[Illjwamh]

I can't really keep track of what's going on right now. And what's this secret Yamanaka clan technique? I hope we get to see Ino do something. She hasn't really done anything since the time skip. Neither have Shino, Kiba or Hinata, for that matter.

[Zelyhon]

I wonder just how long Kakashi will be dying for. He's up to three chapters now. Maybe we should start taking bets.

Illjwamh: If I'm remembering right, their power is the one that lets them possess others and completely control them. She probably just means some evolution of that general concept.

Also: Really? Out of everyone in Konoha who they could follow, their pick is Konohamaru? That's...disappointing.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

Having him die, especially after this drawn-out process, would be very lame. Then again, Jiraiya went the same way. Twice in one arc would be double-lame. I think that losing him will be the ultimate shark-jump for me now. I'm not going to be interested in what happens after Pein if he goes.

Any bets on Naruto fusing with his Kyuubi for sage-mode?

[Barrelhaven]

I have no clue what's going on anymore. Doesn't help that I'm only reading every other panel these days. That's one step closer to finally dropping it altogether! Yay, me!

[PassiveObserver]

Newest Chapter: Everything is everywhere and I'm not really liking it. They prolong Kakashi's death AGAIN... honestly...

For a few pages there I thought they were actually going somewhere with this, but I should have known better.

[Illjwamh]

Illjwamh: If I'm remembering right, their power is the one that lets them possess others and completely control them. She probably just means some evolution of that general concept.
That's hardly their clan's secret technique. It's the first one she learned as a genin and everyone knows they can do it.

Whatever it is, it had better be something badass. I hate when he works up hype for a new technique and it turns out to be just a lame rehash/upgrade/remix/shrimp cocktail of an already existing one.

[PsychoSaiya-jin]

I think they're referring to Pain's ability to control several bodies as if they were his own.. the difference being that he's using corpses with antennae :/

[edit] I'm currently watching the Anime since it's on my fave Shikamaru arc and the contrast is incredible. It makes me sad this is starring the shittiest character of in this universe.

[Natsuke Takeda]

Newest Chpt.

Like the kamehameha wave.. Rasengan is given to another. >>;

[Illjwamh]

Heh. I'm impressed that Konohamaru learned it, but something new, please?

I think they're referring to Pain's ability to control several bodies as if they were his own.. the difference being that he's using corpses with antennae :/


Looks like you nailed it.

[Shadowmage]

429

I'll be honest; I did not expect this, so I actually found the latest chapter mildly impressive.

[Akimichi Choji]

I can't say that they didn't actually have the cajones to change something for once(the existence of konoha?). But it still didn't forward the story. We are even farther away from some decent plot points. So Pain is just an emo kid who decides to tear Konoha a new one? Thats all I got from the last chapter. I realize they were trying to do something unexpected and surprising, but to me it just felt as if they were saying, "Lets see how many things we can do, to avoid actually forwarding the story or telling you guys ANYTHING!"

[Natsuke Takeda]

I hated how Sakura pleaded Naruto to help Konoha.

That's not the Sakura that we saw at the beginning of the time-skip. This is old Sakura who needed others. I hate that.

Naruto is NOT the all-powerful savior, either. Konoha got its ass kicked in about 4 chapters, and now we're going to see Naruto beat the crap out of these people? Che. Whatever.

[Shadowmage]

Naruto is NOT the all-powerful savior, either.
Are we reading the same manga? The last time I recall, Naruto had a spirit bomb.

[PassiveObserver]

Are we reading the same manga? The last time I recall, Naruto had a spirit bomb.

Just wait until he Goes Super Saiyajin 4 and fuses with Shikamaru....

Wasn't entirely to impressed with this chapter, but it looks as though they're at least trying to get things moving now.